http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=40764

http://www.jeepspeak.com/ce_winch.asp

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I dunno. It's been talked about a whole lot on here but I don't know of anybody that owns one. For only a couple bucks more you can have a Mile Marker 8000lb electric and a few more ($400) you can have the Warn 8000. With only 1.8hp, I can imagine it'll be very slow. You will need a snatch block for sure.

I can tell you from experience that no 8000lb winch can ever touch a 9k, except for the Warn 8274. But to jump up to a 9k or 8274, it'll set you back about $1k.

Some of the JPs I run with have various brands of 8k winches. When in the snow, some of them won't pull enough to get out of their own way. Someone with a 9k has to come to the rescue.

Just what I know. Hopefully someone has used the Chicago and can tell you more...

Originally posted by NOTAJP
I can tell you from experience that no 8000lb winch can ever touch a 9k, except for the Warn 8274. But to jump up to a 9k or 8274, it'll set you back about $1k.


The Milemarker 9K is only $499. You can get the Milemarker 12k for $799. Both of which are thier electric versions.

your winch should be rated for a minamum 1.5x your vehicles curb weight to overcome the drag and suction of various trail obstacles.... i know guy's with warn M8000's on explorer's and they do fairly well but most of our recovery's are done with a 3"x30' strap.

my explorer before the SFA was 5500lb's give or take on a DOT scale now add on some mud and you are pushing 6000lb's that to me say's i need a 9000lb winch.

alot of times when you pull with a winch you just need a tug to get your front tires out of a hole or over an obsticle like built up mud infront of you or maybe hung up on a rock or tree so you dont use your winch to it's full potential, but i have seen recovery's that envolved 2 12,000lb warn's and 2 8274-50's and there where a few moment's that all 4 winches stalled out and a snatch block was used.

warn mile marker and ramsey make good reliable winches everything else is just junk.

[i]warn mile marker and ramsey make good reliable winches everything else is just junk. [/B]



I'll beg to differ on that. In the future, I'll only be buying a warn winch. My Ramsey has been nothing but problems. It's broken twice on me, while it haven't beaten it at all...

Heres my .02 I used to have a warn 8000lb on my built up bronco II and it was barely just enough winch to pull me out or up. I didn't have the money for the warn this time so I got the new winch made to warn specs and sold under the name "Magnum 9000" I picked mine up from Stage West Off-Road in Glenwood Springs, CO. for 499.00 970-945-5227 I have not pulled with it yet but I have heard good things about it from people I know who have one.
I think this link will work so you can check it out for your-self http://gowarn.com/magnum-9k-self-recovery-winch.asp
I hope this helps ;)

Swak has a heep he is building to offroad.

I really like that Magnum 9000. I mean you get Warn quality, without the warn price tag: good deal! Up until this point I had been thinking about the Warn M8000, but this seems like a much better buy. This summer when I do my new front bumper and winch I'll be keeping this in mind.

Originally posted by AspenX
Swak has a heep he is building to offroad.

;)

for $700, anything that is 4x4 and runs great cannot be beat.

personally with winches it seems you get what you pay for, the first time a cheap on doenst perform is when youll need it... murphy's law....

Originally posted by SGR1600
I really like that Magnum 9000. I mean you get Warn quality, without the warn price tag:

Got a source for the magnum's???? web page ect.

I had a warn 6000# on my 86 Ranger, never had to use it for myself, just others:p :p .
minumum I would get for my EX would be an 8000#

Tim

The link to the Magnum 9000: http://gowarn.com/magnum-9k-self-recovery-winch.asp

Looks like a good deal.

Originally posted by Hotweels
my explorer before the SFA was 5500lb's give or take on a DOT scale now add on some mud and you are pushing 6000lb's that to me say's i need a 9000lb winch.


a stock 4x4 4 door explorer has a curb weight of 4500 lbs on a heavy day. What on earth were you carrying?

a stock 4x4 4 door explorer has a curb weight of 4500 lbs on a heavy day. What on earth were you carrying?

full tank of gas, trail tool's, camping gear, food, 3 people and a dog, i hope you dont think that sticker on the door sill is right :eek: even without the gear a mostly empty tank and not even my emergency tool's my truck is still 4900-5000lb's

I'll beg to differ on that. In the future, I'll only be buying a warn winch. My Ramsey has been nothing but problems. It's broken twice on me, while it haven't beaten it at all...

sorry i should have been a wee bit more specific, i have seen 2 patriot's before that would give any warn i series a run for it's money and the owner's use them on full size rig's with 38"s and 39"s in thick praire mud with no breakage as to date....

If a stock explorer with nothing in it really is 4900-5000 lbs, then yours should have been a lot more than 5500 with all of that in it. I belive that you were able to get it to weigh 5500, or close. But there's no way that an empty explorer weighs 5000lbs.

Originally posted by Hotweels
i hope you dont think that sticker on the door sill is right :eek:

That door sill sticker is GWVR, not curb weight.

I do think that car and driver reports, listing curb weight are right though.

Specifications
Engine 4.0-liter sohc V6
Horsepower @ rpm 210 @ 5000
Torque, lb.-ft. @ rpm 250 @ 3000
EPA fuel economy, mpg city/hwy 18/23
Additional engines 160-hp 4.0-liter ohv V6, 215-hp ohv V8
Transmission 5-speed automatic
Additional transmissions 5-speed manual, 4-speed automatic (with V8)
Wheelbase 111.5 in.
Length/width/height 188.5/70.2/66.8 in.
Track, f/r 58.8/58.6 in.
Turning circle 37.3 ft.
Head/hip/leg room, f 39.8/51.9/42.4 in.
Head/hip/leg room, r 39.3/51.7/37.7 in.
Max. cargo volume 81.6 cu. ft.
Suspension, f/r independent/live axle
Curb weight 4166 lbs.
Towing capacity 4600 lbs.

take a drive over a scale and get a print out..... you maybe surprised what your truck weigh's.

my truck with no cargo weighed 4125 with no hood, no bumper no grill or lights and no left fender a couple years ago at the racetrack

explorer is pretty heavy anyway... 8000 lbs winch is more suitable for a Wrangler... I just bought a MileMarker 12000lbs electric... sucker weights more than 100 lbs raw... fits in my bumper like a glove... (it's a bit bigger than 9000 lbs)

Pedro, I bought that Ramsey just because I though it's gonna be enough for that truck... I guess I was wrong - never gave me any problems though and I've used it a lot...

My truck weighs around 5500LBS with all the stuff I have in it and on it, easy! My Ramsey is a Platinmum 9500 and hasn't had any problems yet.