When they test the 0-60 time of explorers, do they test the 4dr or the 2dr. Wouldn't the 2dr be faster then the 4dr. And also wouldn't it matter about the gearing. the 0-60 for the 95 explorer is 10.5 seconds. But I have a 2dr. I have a high gear though 3.07. But, I outran a Eclipse the other day. Isn't there a device that shecks the 0-60 time?

I tried to outran a Maxima yesterday but my wife was with me and said NO! So far only a Celica & Diamante. http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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NY State of Mind

there is a thing called G-tech i think you can find it in the sport compact mags or muscle car mags of some sort. its like 130 bux though it tells you 0-60 times and 1/4 mile time and the g's that you pull on corners and on take off. my buddy has on on his new T.A and damn that thing will haul some a$$ . just for the info. LATER

Per the July '97 issue of Car and Driver... 0-60 in 7.9, 0-100 in 26.1, quarter mile in 16.2 @ 84mph, Top speed 106 (governed), Braking 70-0 in 231 feet. These numbers are for a 98 Sport 4.0L SOHC with the 4.10 rear end.

Thanks, I wished I had a SOHC. I have a 95 sport with a OHC and a 3.07 rear end! On top of that I am running 30's A/T's. Mine used to shut off at about 108mph. Now since my speedometer is screwed, it shuts off at about 112mph. Because the bigger tires causes a 4 mph change at that speed. I wished I wqas smart enough to buy a SOHC. I have grown wiser about what options I pick next time. I would get a 3.55-3.73 rear-end too.

My wife got me the G-Tech Pro for Christmas. It measures 0-60 time and distance, 1/4 mile time, 60 - 0 breaking distance, g-force and lateral G's. It cost bout $130.00 and is worth every penny. It is an invaluable tool to determine if a modification you made helps or hurts your speed.
You can find out more at:
http://www.gtechpro.com/prod.html



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Rock'n 97 Sport 4X4

My 1/4 mile is 13.6 at 105 mph. That's stock unmodified. But it's my 98 Trans Am. It's hard for me to think power in my 94 XLT when I have that other rocket at home. But if you really want to Know, go to a local Drag Strip on a "Test & Tune" night. It usually cost about 20 bucks and they should have your 1/4 mile times as well as several other measurments down the track. The G-tech is really good for relative comparisons but the track is the way to test. My T/A gets twice the gas milage too. However, the rocks I can climb in my exlporer more than make up for it's lack of speed. have fun testing.

Rob Robertson
McKinney TX

That's pretty good, but there's a 4-wheeler that can go faster than that. My moms Mustang GT goes pretty good. It was raced against a real dragster, one with a jet engine! The mustang lost by 1 second. And they started at the same time. It is totally stock as far as we know. It is an automatic, but with bark tires at 70mph when the gas is stomped and it jumps back down to drive. It is an 86 model with T-tops. I've never seen another one with t-tops.

James, Your Mom's car sounds awsome. BTW, My T/A has 2.73 gears in back so the 13.6 is really good for that car. I Road Race it so turns are my main thing. There's always someone faster too.

Have you done any trails in your explorer yet? Let's race our Explorers ; )

Rob

Since you guys are all braggin about what cars you beat, I thought I'll just add my own list. New 2 dr cherokee sport, honda civic, new 2 dr explorer sport, mustang (and he had inside lane on a corner), and various others not really worth mentioning.
Keep it movin


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'91 2 dr Eddie Bauer
modified air box
K&N filter
MUCH MORE TO COME

Lets talk apples to apples here. I havent met a ch**y blazer that I cant beat off the line. Jeep cherokees, never. Toyota 4 runner tried to race me once, we both stomped it when the light turned green. I heard a loud clunk come from him. He had to be towed to a garage. Now I wont race a 4 runner. I feel bad when the owners have to fix something just because they think they can beat me http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif

I ran my truck at the drags and came out with
an e/t of 16.77@79.90mph. Not very impressive, but I was proud of myself.

Luke, what are the specs on yours? Just curious.

-Joe-

so what are you guys driving cause there is no way my 92' can beat hardly anything off the line, i mean the horse power is just not there...

Gofast, I haven't really done any trails. Were I live at there are no trails. I climb hills in mine. I only problem is I keep dragging the bottom. One time I made it to the very top of this huge hill, it went straight up at the very top. I just spun, so I backed back down a little and went a little faster, I spun again. But, I didn't back down. I went even faster. The bottom of my explorer bounced on the rocks like a basketball, but hey I made it up http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I haven't seen anything that my explorer won't go up. The only thing stopping it ground clearance. I dont' take it out in thte mud because my dad doesn't know that I do this ind of stuff, he'd kill me. So I keep as much mud off it as possible. Me and my brother race all the time. We tie on take off, but on the interstate, like I found out today, I totally outrun him. I have a 3.07 rear end, he has a 3.73. That's why. I stayed beside a Plymouth Neon Sport. It had about 170hp he said. He did an air box modification. I stayed beside him until my explorer shifted into second gear at about 50mph, then he ran off and left me.

Ok, I have to admit that I did loose one very sad race http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/frown.gif It was to an 85 J**P. Im sorry guys but since then I have changed my truck and I WILL race him in the spring and then we'll see!!

Woohoo #100

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Nick
'93 XLT 4 Door 4x4
Bosch Plat+4's with SplitFire Dual Core wires and a
K&N Air Filter with a Modified Air Box

J**ps are pretty fast. We had a 70-something model. It had a 304 V8 with a racing cam and high lift headers. It's been through a mud hole so deep that mud was coming onto the hood and it pulled right through. It had what I think was 33's on it. Anyway, it would stay beside my moms Mustang GT from take-off. It was a 3 speed. I also think that it had some kind of after market headers on it too. We sold it, that guy sold it to a kid. The kid ran over a stump, busted a hole in the oil pan, then decided to drive it to town. The engine Blew up. Then the kid tried to get his money back from the guy that sold it to him. The eingine was the best part of that j**p.

Whats all this talk about J**ps? I know my uncle has a V8 grand which is quite quick, but I just drive his 280 hp 99 siverado, whoa why isnt my explorer like that? I mean my car is pretty quick. It beat my friends 98 durango (lifted 5 in. 32's not regeared) off the line, but that was when my car was not lifted. I was proud of ol bessy, she has done good in her day especially against the intimatdating V8 in the Dango. Ha ha ha matt, we smoked you! But my friend robert has a j**p commanche SPORtruck, its so fast! what the heck its a frecking 1900 j**p~! Its weird, but in the end my car runs his car over so i win. Peace out you little dragsters

Kial

I have never been able to beat a Grand Cherokee, but I can stay close. As for Eclipses, there is only one car I have driven that is slower than an Eclipse (and not by much) and that is a Geo Spectrum with a 3 cyl engine. Now the turbocharged Eclipses are a diffrent story, faster than the stock Explorer (still not by much) but they are not as common as you think. So, if you find yourself head to head with an Eclipse go ahead and show him a real man's vehicle....of course all he'll see of it is the BACK http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/wink.gif

Whenever a drunkk ran over me, and my explorer was getting fixed for a month and a half. I rented a sunfire. I wasn't a GT, but I raced a eclipse RS, and he ran off a left me. My brother is buying a 97 eclipse GS-T convertible. He said that it is very fast. And that it might outrun a Camaro. Does anybody have one of these. Does the T stand for turbo? The GS model is the model right below thr RS model. He is buying it for a little over $17,000.

WEll when I said an 85 J**p I was talking about a V6 that had 33's on, with stock gears. Its one of my friends. He does have the upper hand due to his trans is stick and mine is auto.
We'll just have to see come spring time!

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Nick
'93 XLT 4 Door 4x4
Bosch Plat+4's with SplitFire Dual Core wires and a
K&N Air Filter with a Modified Air Box

James
Ya, the T stands for turbo, and my uncle had the first one in florida. If you can DRIVE a stick then that car can move. Just one other thing though, I'd do some checking on the eclipses, I heard that those little 2.0's don't last too long with the power they make. Just a little info.

And to add to my list, my girlfriend smoked a new Ch#%$ Blazer 2dr yesterday in my truck.
HA HA HA

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'91 2 dr Eddie Bauer
modified air box
K&N filter
MUCH MORE TO COME

I don't have a lot of time so I'll just note the two most impressive: Lotus (I'm not sure which model, but they're all fast) and a Mustang 5.0

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If everybody is different, how can anyone be normal?

91 Explorer XLT
4.0L OHV V6

Ok, guess I have to add my 2 cents....I've raced everything from a Mustang Cobra to my Dad's Mercedes SLK. I beat most sports cars like Eclipses and Pontiacs. I can kick the @ss of any Camaro, even a Z28 (stock). The only cars (or trucks) I've ever lost to were a Cobra after 3rd gear, my Dad's SLK after 2nd, and my Mom's Lexus LS400. The Lexus can kick anyone's butt! Though, some of the cars I race can get me after about 90 or so: they have higher top ends. I'm putting my Hypertech chip in tomorrow. We'll see after that. It's late, I'm chatty. Sorry.

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Alec Rosenbaum
University of TX @ Austin

1996 Explorer Sport
4.0L V-6 2WD
K&N Filtercharger
Magnaflow Cat-back
Aux lights/horns
Custom Stereo

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[This message has been edited by Alec (edited 04-28-2000).]

All I have to say is I've beat v-6 mustangs and camaros without too much trouble and some eclipses and other kinds of ricers. I think it is cause of the 230 ft. lbs. of torque that my SOHC puts out. As far as j**ps go, I smoked a v-6 grand ch*rokee easily so the guy said that he didn't see the light turn green.....bull.

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1993 Explorer Sport 4x2
4.0 L. V6 SOHC 3.73 gears
2.5" pipes w/flowmaster
Pioneer sound sys.
235/75 AT's

Now on this topic of speed-I haven't lost yet with my 2000 Explorer Sport SOHO. I love to waste Jeeps, oh and Jettas- expecially in the snow! I love to go around them laughing all the way until they're a spec in my mirror! When I first got my explorer back in December we had a fairly good snow and I take a dirt road to work and skip the freeway. So I came upon a sabb that was stuck in the snow and wasn't going anywhere. So I pull up, put down the window, and ask the driver if he wants a push, a ride, or to call for help. He looks at me sheepishly and says he's going to try and back down the hill to his house. So I say good luck (it was obvious that he wasn't going to be able to do that b/c his tires were digging him in deeper every time he gunned the engine)and continued on my way to work laughing. Made my day.
A couple of days ago I wasted some kind of Lexus sedan thing-guy was so shocked he just had to catch up and pass me. I don't know what my 0-60 time is supposed to be, but I do know at a dead stop I can beat most cars on the road. Anyway, I'm very pleased with my Explorer and wish I'd purchased one earlier. I love the power and the off-roading is awesome. Drive on!

Jen

Jen - I've never been so turned on in my life... LOL just kidding... good to see you posting again, hope your planning on going with me to Saxon Mountain in a few weeks with your bro... let me know...

Anyways, back to the subject. My Explorer has a very small amount of power but its really nobodies fault but my own. My 98 F-150 with the 4.6L I used to take to the local drag strip and after getting confused looks from everyone, I would proceed to complete the 1/4 miles in approximately 18-19.5 seconds (I know its slow but it was fun)... haven't taken my Explorer up there due to the fact that whenever I get it over 70 it starts making noises that aren't healthy http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif.

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Matt Adams
94 Explorer 4-door nick-named "Tippy"
http://bart.is-s.com/~explorers/explorer/explorer.html

LMAO you people crack me up. You can beat 5.0 Mustangs and Z28 Camaros with your K&N? ROTFLMFAO!!!!

You sure thats a Z28 Camaro? Or just a V6 with Z28 badges? http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/wink.gif

Alec, What year is your Mom's LS400? My 98 has the new VVT-i 290hp V8, it is one FAST 4,000lb sedan! I had a Cadillac STS before it, and the LS400 is faster no question. 0-60 time of the 98+ is something like 6.3 seconds.

Jen, Most likely that was a Lexus ES300 or perhaps a GS300 or SC300 on a bad day. Come race my Lexus, I'll show you what the relentless persuit of perfecion really means, as you will be relentlessly persuing me http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/wink.gif

5.9, From your name I presume you have a Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited? Nice truck, it almost got me out of Explorers back when I traded last time, Ford made me an offer on my current Explorer I couldn't refuse though. Kinda easy to laugh when you've got the fastest truck in the house huh? Don't rule us Explorers out though, with some mods we can keep up with you, I don't know about a z28 Camaro though...

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Stephen Withrow
StephenLS400@aol.com
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97 Explorer Limited 4X4 SOHC V6
98 Lexus LS400

Yes it is a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited. 245hp and 345ft/lbs of torque stock. I have no problem with Explorers, just ppl who post bs. It seems like there are some guys here that wax Grand Cherokees anytime they want. I hope they mean the V6s. And then this guy that beats Z28s and hangs with Cobras until third gear. Please. You know just as well as I do that thats bs.

Well, maybe I've just had good luck and those cars have had bad drivers. All I know is, my truck is pretty fast: It has a little over 200 horses and weighs a lot less (2door) than many cars. That's what gives it the speed.

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Alec Rosenbaum
University of TX @ Austin

1996 Explorer Sport
4.0L V-6 2WD
K&N Filtercharger
Magnaflow Cat-back
Aux lights/horns
Custom Stereo

You know I almost bought a 5.9L Grand Cherokee when I was shopping for my Explorer, couldn't justify the dough though. Gotta say though that a 5.9L in an SUV is just plain awesome, wish I had the dough to put a bigger engine in my explorer then my underpowered, weak little 4.0L. Maybe by the time I sell my Explorer there'll be some 5.9 Liter Grand Cherokees out there for a good deal. I saw one the other day (I don't think it was the 5.9L but it was a Grand Cherokee) that just looked incredible, made my Explorer look like a blocky, ugly hung of metal http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif. I agree, people who say they are keeping up with Cobras, probably keeping up with them when they are being driven by old ladies who don't realize they are racing http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif.

Matt

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Matt Adams
94 Explorer 4-door nick-named "Tippy"
http://bart.is-s.com/~explorers/explorer/explorer.html

Not neccisarily 5.9. Lots of factors can contribute to who wins a race. Fact is though, the Explorer isn't a speed machine, and when in the hands of a professional driver, racing something like a Z28 driven by a professional driver, the Z28 is going to win.

Alec, you forgot to tell me what year your Mom's LS400 is. Check out my previous post http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/wink.gif
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Stephen Withrow
StephenLS400@aol.com
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97 Explorer Limited 4X4 SOHC V6
98 Lexus LS400

[This message has been edited by Stephen (edited 04-30-2000).]

A Cobra will do 0-60 in mid 5s, which is the end of second gear. Your Explorer does 0-60 in mid 5s? An auto Z28 runs mid 6s and mid to low 14s in the 1/4. And You must be forgetting to list that blower or 100 shot that you have. He said that the Z was an auto. No way that you could miss a shift. Then how da hell did he win?

Alec I see you erased your post. So you admit that it was bs?

As far as I know, and this is from Car and Driver, the quickest unmodified Explorer is the late model Sport with the SOHC engine and 4.10 gears. It is quoted at 16.2 seconds in the quarter mile, and I think the high 8's in 0-60. I remember reading that the 5.9L Cherokee is a couple of tenths quicker in the quarter. Don't know how the top end is, or the 0-60.

Modified is a different story with all vehicles. I've seen times on a V-6 F-150 with a few mods (intake, exhaust, chip) doing low 16's, so simple mods can make quite a difference.

Unfortunately, when you put larger tires on like I did, you lose a few tenths. http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif Still, its a fun ride. Those Cherokees are contenders, that's for sure.

Even my 90 Mustang 5.0 hit 60 in 6.0 seconds. These new ones, at least the Cobras with DOHC's, are even quicker. Don't know about the V-6 or SOHC 4.6 times, though.

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Tom
99 Sport 4x4
SOHC
Auburn Rear & Gerald's old Shackles
265/75-R16 BFG AT's that weren't supposed to fit

Car & Driver tested the 2000 Cobra R on the show today. It does 0-60 in 4.3. Quarter times are in low 13's. That's a fine lookin' car!

I want one of those Cobra R's. Or maybe, I can just put the letter R on my back window (along with the prerequisite coffee can exhaust).

Seriously, there are a lot of Mustang owners that go through a lot to get to those low 13's.

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Tom
99 Sport 4x4
SOHC
Auburn Rear & Gerald's old Shackles
265/75-R16 BFG AT's that weren't supposed to fit

Aheemm, excuse me could I have the attention of the class for just one moment...thank you:

Cars That Have Fallen Victim to the 94EX:

94 Honda Civic, Eclipse, 92 Explorer, 96 Saturn Sports Coupe(My girlfriend dosen't know how to race..hehe), 92 4dr Jeep Cherokee Sport(this was a good victory cause it was my dad I was racing), and a 95 4Runner.

Now what I wanta know is how the hell did Big Poppa beat a Mustang (assuming it was a 5.0) even with the inside lane with only a K&N airfilter and modified airbox. Big Poppa give me the secret...please!



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James K
94 Eddie Bauer 4x4
Specs Sheet:
www.geocities.com/expo1994/Expo1994.html (http://www.geocities.com/expo1994/Expo1994.html)

Maybe the Mustang wasn't racing. http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif

Seriously, there are a multitude of vehicles I'd rather be in if I were racing for titles. None of them include my Explorer. I'm not saying its slow, but there's plenty faster.

If you want slow, I had a 1979 318 Dodge pickup with 118K miles and almost no compression left. I couldn't pull a boat over 50 MPH on the freeway, and that's on flat ground. Just wouldn't go any faster. Left a pretty big cloud of oil smoke behind it too. The truck was just plain worn out from towing by its previous owner.

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Tom
99 Sport 4x4
SOHC
Auburn Rear & Gerald's old Shackles
265/75-R16 BFG AT's that weren't supposed to fit

5.9, the post that was erased was done so because it had accidentally been posted twice. I do not appreciate your attacks on me and other people on this site. Maybe we've just had good luck, but at least I know I'm not lying. If someone's integrity deserves to be threatened, usually it's the person doing the threatening.

BTW, my mother's LS400 is a '99.

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Alec Rosenbaum
University of TX @ Austin

1996 Explorer Sport
4.0L V-6 2WD
K&N Filtercharger
Magnaflow Cat-back
Aux lights/horns
Custom Stereo

Ummm my integrity? Was I saying that I beat Z28s? No. Was I saying that I can hang with Cobras? No. There is no way that you can beat or even come close to hanging with any of these cars. It has nothing to do with luck. Its called the real world. You might have been racing, but they weren't. I would also like to know how the other guy beat a 5.0 Mustang.

If you are saying that you did win then please explain to me how its possible that you beat that Z28.

You know...who really cares?! I don't care if the Explorer blew away a nascar. Seriously guys..lets quit fighting. Yes, 5.9 you have a bigger engine, but you know bigger is not always better. Every Explorer and every Jeep is different. it is pointless fighting about who's Explorer can beat which car and which Jeep can beat that car etc...
Just my $.02

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TravisN1@AOL.COM
1995 XLT 4x4
80,000 miles
K&N Drop-in
Bosch +4's
BFG Long Trails
Have a nice day! :-)

Come on guys enough of this bickering. A stock 4.0L OHV Explorer is a dog. There are no ifs ands or buts about it. A stock 4.0L Grand Cherokee will walk away from it every time. A 4.0L SOHC Explorer is another matter. 16.2 in the quarter is nothing to sneeze at for something that weighs as much as an Explorer. I have driven a 318 powered Grand Cherokee and they are very quick. I don't know about the 302 Explorer or the 360 Grand Cherokee.

All SUVs can be made to perform very well, you can really make them scoot if you want to put alot of money into the engine but (except in a very few cases) they ain't no rocketship! http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/eek.gif I have yet to find a V8 Mustang or Camaro that I couldn't lose handily to. http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif

If it ever came down to racing someone for pinks the Explorer would stay home and the old Mustang would be brought into service. At almost 2000 lbs less and nearly twice the horsepower I don't have any fear of losing to an Explorer, even if it does have a K&N filter and a loud muffler. http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Paul Gagnon
Calgary, Alberta
"No Brain, No Pain"
A page from my book. (http://www.geocities.com/pg4x4)

Technically Velveeta isn't REALLY cheese... it's a cheese food...
The stuff that other cheeses eat... I guess.

95 explorer sport 4.0 OHC 3.07 gear
Hey, the only thing that I can outrun is an 91-94 explorer. I can out run explorers on the interstate and bearly outrun them on take off. But hey, I get good gas mileage.
And if I wanted to race anything but another SUV, then I would ask to drive my moms mustang with a stock 0-60 of 6 secs, the fastest stock from 84-94 models. And we just put flowmasters on it. I would seriously say about 5.5 now. We haven't lost a race yet!

In my experiance with "racing", I know I my 00' sport can take most other suv's well such as blazers because I have seriously raced one with my friend. As for a stock grand cherokee, forget about it, it's a 00' and it's my dad's girlfriend's and it doesn't hold water to my sport and I don't know if the cherokee is a V6 or a V8 http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif. I wouldn't praise a camero either. Not saying that I could beat one but my brother beat me in my friends camero when he was in a ford focus he does have a "few" mods though like a turbo http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/wink.gif, and this is a bottom of the line stock camero not a Z28 but it still got beat. I know though in my explorer "I" can't beat those kinds of cars, not if they have the pedal to the metal as well. Again these are just my experience http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif.

I think it is hard to believe that a stock Explorer (even with the chip and K&N) can beat a Mustang GT/Cobra; Camaro Z28 from a dead stop. A GT goes mid 6 in 0-60, low 14/high 13 in 1/4 mile. Cobra can go mid 5 in 0-60/mid to low 13 in 1/4 mile. (Sources: Motor Trend; Car & Driver).

As far as the GrandCherokee vs Explorer issue I believe it depends on what type of engines you're comparing. '99 Jeep GC V6 is not a threat to the SOHC V6/OHV V8 Explorers, but the V8 Jeep GC is another story. I just witnessed a street race (stop-light-race) a month ago between a '99 V8 GC and a Honda Accord (mid 95s model). The GC came on top. They raced two more times and the results were the same. That is a one fast SUV, BUT I would still choose my Explorer V8 over any Jeep GC. Just my preference.
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1999 and 2000 Toyota 4-Runner Limited/SR-5
Mid 95-s Chevy Blazer
99/00 Mitsubishi Montero Sport
99 SOHC Explorer--no offense to you guys http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif
98 Toyota Tacoma
98/99/late 80-s Nissan Pathfinder
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These were the vehicles that were LUCKY enough to see my tail lights and my exhaust.

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No matter how much we try to avoid it, temptations to test our vehicles can't be avoided sometimes. Thus, a race against other drivers. http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif

Wow, lots of animated discussions about who is faster than whom. So have we determined a winner for the fastest car/truck (besides mine of course...LOL)?

Matt, I did hear about your planned off road adventure and I'd love to come along. Give a little notice and I'll be there. Explorer's really shine off road too-had a wonderful time with the bro hopping pot holes and small streams this past weekend. I'm still pretty inexperienced but it sure is fun!

Jen

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Jen
00 Sport 4X4 SOHC

Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead, but i was wondering if i put a blower on my 1998 explorer sport SOHC (BBK) with i believe 3.55 (?) gears, what do you think i could get my 0-60? With exhaust and a K&N. I'm thinking mid 7's? Hopefully? Maybe? Possible?


thanks
travis

I'd say low 8s is a better estimate.

You would be a lot lower than mid 7's 0-60 with an exhaust, filter and Blower. My '97 SOHC 4x4 Explorer Sport ran 16.374 in the 1/4 mile when stock in Phoenix. That works out to a 0-60 time of 8.0-8.3 seconds. I have since put on a Borla, SuperChip and K&N FIPK and it feels much quicker than stock. I did the same mods to my '94 4.0L Ranger and couldn't feel nearly the difference that I feel in my Explorer and it gained .25 in the 1/4 mile. I am figuring I have gained about .5 in the 1/4 mile. I am going to try and get back to the track on January 10 if I can get my co-worker to bring his Lightning back. The performance gains that were posted on some blower maker's web-site showed a gain of 1-1.2 seconds 0-60. So if mine is now running 7.7-7.9 0-60, with a blower it should be 6.5-6.9 with a 1/4 mile time of around 15.0 or just a bit less.

I didn't see him mention the exhaust, sorry about that.

....man, do I see the fur flying in this thread....

Seems like some of those out there are popping testosterone pills. I was in a race just the other day and I almost whooped up on a 78 Pinto... next time by god I'll check the wind direction..and then, his a$$ is MINE!!

A few months back me and my mom were engaged in a type of race on the interstate with a prolly mid 80's Ford Festiva or some kind of little compact car. Its back bumper was just about dragging the ground, and it was just about to hop off of its front tires and start riding one hell of a wheelie...at 70 mph. We passed it because we were sick of inhaling it blue exhaust fumes and we walked right past it easy as you would think. A few minutes later it decides that we must be going too slow (ha!) and it tries to pass us. It gets its front bumper even with our back one and stays like that for about a mile, then it slowly progresses up to get the front bumper even with the drivers door. Then after another mile or so its even with us...and it stays like that for at least the next 3 miles! I was there trying to stiffle my evil little grin and devilish laughter :D I finally said "Mom why dont you either slow down and let them pass or speed up and get them behind us?" She didnt do either, she must have been enjoying herself. Finally, it got around us enough to pull back into the right lane. A few seconds later we blew their doors off :D

Now my 0-60 is about 11 seconds flat, the only things ive done so far is a flow master 50 series cat back, and a k&n air filter and I also removed the lower portion of the airbox...the last car I raced was a 97 chrysler sebring, I schooled him by about 2 car lengths...pretty fun, not really a fast car of nothing but its still fun beating people =)

I once did 0-60 in my Explorer! LOL

Does anyone notice that when you floor the truck for a while (such as passing or racing) that your temp. gauge rises up intot he upper 3/4 of the normal range? My truck always does, then after I pass the truck it will go down to the lower 1/4 of the gauge. i guess that much gas really creates a ton of heat.

Yep, mine does that too Trav. Same happens when scaling a highway grade.

If so I'd like to personally see how fast you are. What are your specs, other than the power ratings you've already given?

I'm not going to say he's exaggerating but for Alec to beat the cars he listed seems pretty incredible. Several factors affect "street races" such as ability, intent, conditions, Hp to weight ratio, etc... I have gone against cars such as 5.0 Mustangs(5spd,exhaust,K&N FIPK)and 5.7 TransAms, we were even until about 70-80 mph then they slowly inched me. Alec's truck is the lightest version Explorer made and weight plays a big role but it still seems amazing.

I have a 96 xlt V6 and I wouldn't go picking a fight with any mustang camaro firebord type cars. the low rpm torque is there but over 3000rpm theres no power, It would be a joke to say i am in the same ballpark as a mustang of any sort, 5.9limited, you have a quick truck, any X's out there that are giving camaros and mustangs a run for there money I give you a lot of credit. after all this is an explorer site, we wouldnt bad mouth our own trucks
-adam

What is the fastest street legal car 0-60? I think its the ligenfelter viper. 0-60 time is 3.3 seconds. 725HP i think.

I don't know where you guys are driving, maybe on Sundays with grandpa at the wheel of your next victim. I don't think that my or a stock "X" could beat a 95 body style eclipse. As far as a mustang or a Z28/SS NO WAY. My "X" weighted in at 4500 lbs. Mathematically impossible to beat a 3000 lbs car with the same HP. Can't be done.

Unless the driver does not have a clue how to drive or wanted to see if you where dumb enough to take off. I do it all the time. Sucker someone in to racing and then not race.

Fastest street cars. I have a friend that as the worlds quickest eclipse it runs 9.17 in the 1/4 mile @ 152 mph(Brent Rau)

Also a friend of mine (Brian Carpenter) as a 1500 hp Mustang that he runs on the street all summer on weekends. last year he was at low 8's with 850 hp at the wheels and 10" tires.

Off the line!! Yes people with an "X" will probably beat anything off the line. We don't have the power to spin the tires more than a chirp. My Mustang will spin them until I get off the gas or feather the clutch. we are beating a dead horse. I bet I could beat a STOCK neon though or how about a focus at 130 hp. I have a VC2000 I will see what my "X" will do. I bet it in the 18's which a new Honda could kick my butt!

Unless we get together we will never have what we need to go fast or have towing power. We need headers a full exhaust system and real intake other than crap on ebay. sure it gives you 3 hp yea yea!!! a chip well maybe 5-10 hp if your lucky. MAF but no throttle body and a pore intake design. no cam no heads=NO POWER. If we had JEEPS we could have all kinds of aftermarket parts. But I/We LOVE FORD.

Sum it up WE HAVE SLOW TOYS did you want something fast well get a saleen "X" then. I have something fast I wanted a mud toy to pull my sleds that would catch a look or two as I pull in to the drive. I love it.

I raced a Ford Mini Van and had my A$$ handed to me!!!!!!!

Amen to that last one. Everyone thinking that they're beating quick cars and stuff with their relatively stock explorers are in a fantasy land. You might beat some guy to 45 or 55, heck I do it all the time, it's just that those people aren't racing you. Face it, Explorers are fat and slow. People with real "fast" cars don't see Explorers as theats and therefore don't race them. (obviously I mean that as just most of the time. Sometimes I piss someone off and they kick my butt for real!)

Before I bought my 93 sport I owned a top of the line 96 GSX Eclipse. They are fast I beat a couple of stock camaros, but don't even try and race the Z28. I stayed close but he took off and left me at about 75. They are cool cars but the tranny and engine blew on me at 120, In the middle of the nevada dessert. That was the end of that car. More to fix then the value of the car.

I agree, Explorers are pretty slow. This is the list of cars I have raced in my stock X. And yes, they were racing b/c my friends and I race for fun all the time.
*95 Dodge Caravan v6, Its pretty even. The explorer will take him to about 45, then its the van by a little bit up to 60.
*89 Chevy Beretta GT v6-Got my ass handed to me
*93 Ford Thunderbird v6-Beat him every time, too much wheel spin on his.
*89 Saab 9000 Non-Turbo-Beat it but thats due to the horrible tranny in the Saab.
*00 Honda Accord v6-Not a good idea to try and race on of these as they do 0-60 in the mid 7's.
*95 Probe GT v6-Raced when it was wet out, put the X into 4wd and took him for a little bit but once he got traction, I was all done.
*95 Jeep GC 5.2L v8-This was not even close, the jeep had AWD and smoked me so bad, he was 3-4 car lengths in front of me by the time we hit 60.
Enjoy the racing guys!

My 0-60 time is about 2 weeks.

Originally posted by Cameron
My wife got me the G-Tech Pro for Christmas. It measures 0-60 time and distance, 1/4 mile time, 60 - 0 breaking distance, g-force and lateral G's. It cost bout $130.00 and is worth every penny. It is an invaluable tool to determine if a modification you made helps or hurts your speed.
You can find out more at:
http://www.gtechpro.com/prod.html



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Rock'n 97 Sport 4X4

Are you pleased with this devise? Can you give us a brief discussion on its use?

Thanks....

I win this contest. A couple weeks ago I "raced" a 2000 Audi S4 and toasted it for about 15 miles until this idiot decided to pass on a blind turn and nailed a telephone pole, went through that and into a tree. The car exploded right infront of me, it was f#%&ed up! The cars speedometer was pegged at 95mph at the time of impact and everyone in it lived! That means I won right?

Originally posted by 97XLT
I win this contest. A couple weeks ago I "raced" a 2000 Audi S4 and toasted it for about 15 miles until this idiot decided to pass on a blind turn and nailed a telephone pole, went through that and into a tree. The car exploded right infront of me, it was f#%&ed up! The cars speedometer was pegged at 95mph at the time of impact and everyone in it lived! That means I won right?

You simply have to be kidding... you won?????????

i beat almost all of the muscle cars i race but rarely win against guys with huge trucks....i wonder if it my drive it like i stole it attidude and crappy muscle car drivers that only buy their cars for show and no go

Originally posted by jimabena74
i beat almost all of the muscle cars i race but rarely win against guys with huge trucks....i wonder if it my drive it like i stole it attidude and crappy muscle car drivers that only buy their cars for show and no go

Is that like the gentleman who is a Master in the martial arts not picking fights with punks?

yes it is...it is a discipline thing and you wouldnt understand;)hehehe lol

Originally posted by 97XLT
I win this contest. A couple weeks ago I "raced" a 2000 Audi S4 and toasted it for about 15 miles until this idiot decided to pass on a blind turn and nailed a telephone pole, went through that and into a tree. The car exploded right infront of me, it was f#%&ed up! The cars speedometer was pegged at 95mph at the time of impact and everyone in it lived! That means I won right?

Did that make you proud? How would you have felt if there was a serious injury? Are you now going to put a little Audi decal on your fender like the fighter pilots do when they shoot down an enemy plane?

Dude Julie is like all over this board you guys! Every board I see has her name on it! Power to the women in X's! nothin I love more than a chick in a truck! Pardon my politicaly incorrectness

Originally posted by CAC91
.... You might beat some guy to 45 or 55, heck I do it all the time, it's just that those people aren't racing you. Face it, Explorers are fat and slow...

When I first started reading this sentence, my immediate reaction was: Hey, wait a minute, I'm in that age group (actually past). But then I realized that you're saying we're just smarter. ;)

With all this talk about 0 to 60 times and beating somebody off the line, one thing that the younger set on this thread (board) might want to consider. I don't see or hear of very many top drag racers below the age of 30 (or maybe that should be 40). I don't follow NHRA but I have the distinct impression that just about any champ in the various classes is way past 20.

Oh, by the way, 97XLT, the guy in the Audi S4 didn't race you for 15 miles. He probably just couldn't be bothered or didn't have a clue what he had under his right foot. Which is more than likely considering that he ran off the road in a vehicle that holds on to the pavement pretty good.

Here is a description of the engine:

'Starting things out is a 2.7-liter twin-turbo V6 engine. Sporting twin intercoolers, dual-overhead cams, five valves per cylinder, variable valve timing for the intake camshafts, and optimized combustion chambers, the engine generates 250 horsepower and 258 foot-pounds of torque. Audi has designed the engine to provide much of its power low in the revband. Consequently, the S4 makes quick work of freeway on-ramps and passing maneuvers. Audi gives buyers of the S4 a choice of transmissions; there's a six-speed manual transmission or a five-speed Tiptronic automatic transmission.'

The zero to 60 time is 5.5 seconds, the quarter 14.1.

I don't think we need to go into discussion if an Explorer (even modified like Alec's) has any hope of keeping up.

Troll doesn't count here since he did a complete engine transplant. LOL

i hate to say it but julie has a very valid point

Listen, I have a Limited with V8 and AWD. I actually beat my sisters 99 durango but she squealed, the AWD really hooked, and she can't drive for S**t. It was alos the first day she bought it and she wants to race again but there is no way that I will.
All of this talk about racing Mustangs and camaros, forget it. If you beat them they weren't trying. The only reason you take them off the line is they spin. My 87 GT had 225 HP stock and weighs about 1500 less than we do. I'll tell ya that car is sick, but in the rain it is crap. So race one in the rain. In mine I could shiftout of 2nd at 60+ MPH haulin a** let me tell you. As someone said before we are made for 4x4, traction, and pullling not speed.
I would like to do alot to my Limited but the same mod that would give you 5 HP on an Explorer would give you 20-30 HP on a stang. The only good thing I have going for me is that the 5.0L V8 can be modified endlessly, but the weight we will never get rid of.

Even I will admit I can't hold a candle to an S4. However, I can kinda keep with my friends Passat. He has the 1.8T, heavily modified. Bigger turbo, intercooler, blowoff valves, intake, head, exhaust.......now he has about 280 hp at the crank and 280 tq (vs my 260-320). He also weighs a bunch less. Off the line I win, he pulls me 50-80, then I pull him to 100. After that, he pulls away fast.

This was on a deserted rural road in full daylight close to some private land of mine. See street racing thread in the polls forum to yell at me for being stupid.

Originally posted by Alec
Even I will admit I can't hold a candle to an S4. However, I can kinda keep with my friends Passat. He has the 1.8T, heavily modified. Bigger turbo, intercooler, blowoff valves, intake, head, exhaust.......now he has about 280 hp at the crank and 280 hp (vs my 260-320). He also weighs a bunch less. Off the line I win, he pulls me 50-80, then I pull him to 100. After that, he pulls away fast.

This was on a deserted rural road in full daylight close to some private land of mine. See street racing thread in the polls forum to yell at me for being stupid.

If you are so fast, why not have a go at someone with some horsepower?

Simple: I usually lose to cars with over 300 hp or over 330 tq. Simple really, if a vehicle that weighs less than me has a lot more power, they're gonna win. However, I find it cool that I can beat lighter vehicles that have about the same power that I do.

i raped my friends 4.0 range rover off the line and on the incline... i have a 91 4.0 4dr. and to make sure it wasnt a fluke, we raced 3 times.

Yeah, Landys are slow. I beat a friend of mine in a "pick-up" runway race**. He's got a 99 Discovery II w/ the 4.0 V8...I toasted him to the end of the 4000' runway, no contest.

**NOTE: DO NOT RACE ON A RUNWAY UNLESS IT HAS BEEN EXPRESSLY CLOSED FOR RACING PURPOSES.