I see a bunch of you on the road and have met some via e-mail and phone. I just want to put this out to anybody who might want to get together to do some wheelin or even meet and greet. 2 wheel drive friends welcome to. I have talked to a few of you on other threads and I thought I would consolodate to a specific thread. We may be able to help each other out in our Explorer needs as well. So what do you guys say? :chug:

I am here. Last week I started a tread, I heard that Slades park in Surry was open for wheeling. I have not confirmed the rumor, yet. If in fact it is open it would be a great place for a meet and greet.

Yea, I used to ride out there a lot when I had my dirt bike. The only bad thing is all the 2 wheeled traffic on the weekends. My truck had a very tramatic experience out there as well that required a tractor and 50 bucks. I want to go out to GWNF or some place cool to do some real wheelin and maybe some camping. I am out of town for a little while and I know another guy that is coming back soon. I have seen a bunch of lifted X's around here so maybe more people will follow.

Well, not the true VA, but the real one of the 2, WVA. haha

I'd like to meet up sometime for some wheeling. I've been to GWNF once, but it wasn't that tough. I was on 31's with a locker at the time and it was snowing. Are there harder trails there.

I'll be back in VA (Charlottesville and Blacksburg) in 2 weeks and ready to hit the mountains... been living in the SC Lowcountry for 7 months now

Well, not the true VA, but the real one of the 2, WVA. haha
There is a reason that VA gave that place away. :p

I can do whatever I can to help you guys out for planning and such, but my truck is on hold for at least another year. :rolleyes:

I know there is a public trail down at Potts Mtn (Craig County), but last I heard it was closed for cleaning. I haven't heard if has re-opened or not, I will look into it. I also here some rumors about some trails in Crozet, and I know that there is a comp there, but from the information I have, it is all private.

We need to find a hookup somewhere along I-81 that knows the area. Lord knows that there has to be a thousand good spots along the mountains, but I never hear about them as east as I am.

There is a reason that VA gave that place away. :p .

Kiss my :mattmoon: ;)

We need to find a hookup somewhere along I-81 that knows the area. Lord knows that there has to be a thousand good spots along the mountains, but I never hear about them as east as I am.

Shoe Creek is a great run (and Big Level's when its open)

I did this run with the NOVAJeepers (http://4x4icon.com/offroad/111503_big_levels_shoe_creek/index.htm)

Shoe Creek is accessible from exit 205 on I-81 (Raphine/Steele's Tavern) You take 56 E over the mountain (and parkway) and back down. Turn R past the fish hatchery and climb up the dirt road, until you hit the Crabtree Meadows parking lot (Crabtree Falls is about 1.5 miles down the path and has gorgeous views ~ falls go for over 1000 feet) You can also come from 250 W, to 151 S (like your heading to Wintergeen) and then take 56 W and turn Left before the fish hatchery

But yeah, there are a TON of places to wheel along 81, I usually just grab a Atlas and Gazetteer map and start looking for 4x4 trails. Thats how i found all the trails near blacksburg

Another Shoe Creek and surround trails right up (http://4x4icon.com/offroad/potts_jeep_road_082303/index.htm)

Almost everything I have seen in the GWNF is not to difficult. The trails are still fun. I have been around RT 60 and RT250, and RT 33 as they pass through GWNF. The best and most popular trails are around RT 33. The best place (popular) to camp is Crabtree, the best (solitary) are the areas around Reddish Knob. There are lots of other placed that I haven't been.

but my truck is on hold for at least another year. :rolleyes:

Sorry to hear that. Whats keeping your truck on hold?

Well great to see all the locals, even if your from WV. LOL! I'm in Washington state now until August 21st. But at least we have a place to go to get a hold of everyone. I've been wanting to go up by grab tree falls but never worked out. Anything is better than VA Beach.

I would be down to go if I could just ride shotgun with someone (kinda sucks to be lowered).

(kinda sucks to be lowered).


We've been telling you all that for years!! :p

I propose that the Virginia Explorers make a run to the GWNF on Saturday September 18, 2004. I suggest the trails around the Route 33 (Harrisonburg). There are many good trails in the area. The JMU contingent seems to be prety consistent about getting some vehicles on the trails. It is also a pretty central location DC, Richmond, West Virginia. It has been almost a year since we had a run, I think is is time for us to get off our asses and get into the woods.

what's up everyone? September would be great for me except that i'm getting married oct 2, so i'm trying to save every dime right now. anybody down this way, there are some small places we could do some wheeling at.

I propose that the Virginia Explorers make a run to the GWNF on Saturday September 18, 2004.

Oh man, y'all are seriously going to test my loyalties aren't you?

The red marks away games, otherwise, it may be hard to drag me out of Blacksburg...

WVU is going to stomp you again!

WVU is going to stomp you again!

Oooooooh how I hate WVU (and Marshall)...

Why does the state of WVa have the most rowdy, honry, disrespectful fans in the nation?

We have never made it back from a game in WVa (Morgantown, Huntington, etc) with out car getting keyed/egged or getting beer thrown/poured on us

I don't know but please don't hold that against me! LOL

I don't even follow WV sports. I went to Marshall and I HATE their football team. They walk around campus thinking they are big and bad, but we have to remind them they are in the MAC!

I am open to other dates. I don't want to go on September 11, because it is race week in Richmond.

I don't even follow WV sports. I went to Marshall and I HATE their football team.

Thats cool, I relinquish you of the hate ;)

Sept. 11th I actually think I'll be in Clemson for the Clemson/Ga Tech game (I can't believe I'm giving up a VT game for that... oh well, it'll make the lil lady happy...)

We seriously need to get something planned though. Last time it got pushed back till November and then no one could make it

Some of us made it in November or last year.

Some of us made it in November or last year.

*Not everyone could make it... sorry sir

So is anybody interested?

So is anybody interested?

Yeah...

Actually, I'll be running Shoe Creek Wednesday August 11th and camping near crabtree that night

But here are the weekends I can work with:

Sept 3-5
October 8-10
October 22-24
October 29-31
November 5-7
November 12-14
November 19-21
December 17-23 (christmas break)

possibly, depends on what weekend and if i have the money (getting married in Oct, sucking away my funds)

Hokie, I can work with those dates.

dgibson, hopefully it is just gas and sodas.

Hokie, I can work with those dates.

dgibson, hopefully it is just gas and sodas.


Ok... more specifically ~ coordinating my schedule with the gf's schedule (i forsee a few road trips to Clemson this fall) here are the weekends I propose we look at for a little camping and 4x4 action.

since you wanna do GWNF, we can camp either on the Kephart trail or ontop of Reddish Knob (preferably Reddish Knob)

Sat/Sun: Sept 4-5

Sat/Sun: Oct 8-9

Sat/Sun: Oct 30-31

Sat/Sun: Nov 13-14

the november date would be best for me, possibly the end of october also

I will be booked until school starts again.

Those weekends seem straight, I'll assume that Hokie already steered clear of the VT football game dates so I may be game :).

I'll assume that Hokie already steered clear of the VT football game dates so I may be game :).

You bet your ass i did.. NOTHING not even Michelle(my Charleston darlin' (http://filebox.vt.edu/users/brwilso5/Michelle/Michelle%20in%20hat.JPG)) comes between me and Hokie football! ;)

I might could do 2 of those weekends if'n y'all wanna go twice.. maybe one time at the GWNF near harrisonburg and another time doing Shoe Creek and surrounding areas

You bet your ass i did.. NOTHING not even Michelle(my Charleston darlin' (http://filebox.vt.edu/users/brwilso5/Michelle/Michelle%20in%20hat.JPG)) comes between me and Hokie football! ;)

I might could do 2 of those weekends if'n y'all wanna go twice.. maybe one time at the GWNF near harrisonburg and another time doing Shoe Creek and surrounding areas
I hear ya, gotta love them southern women, but its good you got your priorities straight :).

Hokie,

What else besides crabtree falls is on the shoe creek run? Are there any good trails?Whenever I have been to Crabtree that is is far as I get. It is a great place to camp, but it does get a little crowded in the fall.

Check those 2 links i posted on the first page... they give a pretty good idea of what that area of the GWNF has to offer

Are there any people near VA Beach?

i'm here in va beach

Oooooooh how I hate WVU (and Marshall)...

Why does the state of WVa have the most rowdy, honry, disrespectful fans in the nation?

We have never made it back from a game in WVa (Morgantown, Huntington, etc) with out car getting keyed/egged or getting beer thrown/poured on us

it's all the in-breeding.

especially prevelent in putnam county.


**YO! josh c.- hey man did not know you were in the sand...keep your 4 wheel drive lovin' asss down and your eyes open!
THANK'S MAN, for serving Our great nation! GOD BLESS.
let's wheel when you get home...gwnf, boyer woods?
i finally got to tellico, enjoyed because i was passenger.
see ya bro

peter

Peter, what's up buddy! Long time no see or talk. How have ya been? I left in Feburary for the big sand box. Due back home in mid september, and believe me when i'm say i'm ready to be home! I'm also ready for some wheelin. I bought a 2000 F250 PSD that will be at my house next week and i've also bought me a tralier to haul my baby around on, so i'm ready to roll man! I heard that someone bought boyer woods and they've closed it down and logged it all. Any truth to that?? I hope not, man i grew up in those mud holes, haha. But i'll go anytime when i get home. Keep in touch.

We have a small place in chesapeake that I like to go and we get plenty of trucks stuck out there... Just got a BRAND NEW 2004 H2 with 500 miles stuck last weekend.....

BY the way I am in VA beach ...

VA Beach here myself. e-mail me at ANDYLANT2003@yahoo.com the next time you go out. I'd like to have a look at where y'all go. Thanks in advance.

BY the way I am in VA beach ...


hey, do u play softball in bayville park every now and then? saw an x looks like ur's there

Nope... I dont play softball,,, but there is another X that was built just after mine that was the same color,, I had tried to have them join but they dont have internet access

I might be able to make it to GWNF if a date is set. The later the better for me.

Just got my X today. Lemme know if you guys get together anywhere. I'll keep an eye on this thread.

I would be interested in a Saturday run to GWNF in September.. Sunday's are generally reserved for worship services.

If you guys go anytime in september would anyone like to reserve me a passenger seat?

Sept 4-5

Lets wheel boys

Big Levels/Shoe Creek, GWNF.. it no matter. I just gotta get out, get muddy, pass the bourbon, beer, wine, shine and cigars so I can drink myself stupid around a campfire and forget about all of the time I've wasted worrying over that no good Clemson Tigerdevil (http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115457&page=1&pp=20)

pbo2274,
Where do you go in Chesapeake? I have been to most places and they are off limits now. At least thats what the judge told me anyway. There is a place down near Elizebeth City, but its small. Where in VA Beach do you live? dgibson is not to far from me either I think. I live near the courthouse off Northlanding.

Somebody pick a date to go. later in September early October would be better. I go to the Gulf for 3 weeks in November.

Sept 4-5

Lets wheel boys

Big Levels/Shoe Creek, GWNF.. it no matter. I just gotta get out, get muddy, pass the bourbon, beer, wine, shine and cigars so I can drink myself stupid around a campfire and forget about all of the time I've wasted worrying over that no good Clemson Tigerdevil (http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115457&page=1&pp=20)

I feel your pain brother. I have spent many a night at the bottom of something. Time to move on. Stay busy and put it behind you. Maybe she will open her eyes. It may take a while, but you never know. :)

pbo2274,
Where do you go in Chesapeake? I have been to most places and they are off limits now. At least thats what the judge told me anyway. There is a place down near Elizebeth City, but its small. Where in VA Beach do you live? dgibson is not to far from me either I think. I live near the courthouse off Northlanding.

Somebody pick a date to go. later in September early October would be better. I go to the Gulf for 3 weeks in November.


the spot off of military hwy and canal isn't bad, but it can get ugly

http://www.southernxplorer.com/images/uploaded/dgibson_picture_123.jpg

I used to ride dirtbikes out there. The fuzz will run you out if you get caught. I used to go there and a place over by the shipyard, until I had to stand in front of the man. He told me if he ever saw me again he would put me in jail. Sooooooo, I don't traspass any more.

PS- When you getting rid of the beach tires? LOL!

What about Slades Park in Surry?

I used to ride dirtbikes out there. The fuzz will run you out if you get caught. I used to go there and a place over by the shipyard, until I had to stand in front of the man. He told me if he ever saw me again he would put me in jail. Sooooooo, I don't traspass any more.

PS- When you getting rid of the beach tires? LOL!

if u take the turn off to the right before u get down to where u can get to the lake, there aren't any no trespassing signs. those are all down by the entrance to the power line.

I took those tires off, and now i am running 35x14.50 boggers

What about Slades Park in Surry?

Slades is nothing but mud bogs where accessable, not to mention all the 2 wheeled traffic on the weekends. Best time is during the week. Be careful out there. I went to run through what I thought was a little mudhole and ended up to my headlights :mad:

So have we set a date to go the GWNF? Where are we going to go?

My weekends are filling fast now that football season is upon us. Oct 9-11 is now out too b/c i'll be shrimping in Charleston, SC

Well get a dam radio. You can wheel and listen to your precious foosball. LOL

Well get a dam radio. You can wheel and listen to your precious foosball. LOL

Well get a dam clue. You don't miss VT football as a student

Well get a dam clue. You don't miss VT football as a student
Touchy Touchy -------------- Geeze

So Hokie did you go the game last Saturday? You think that students dont miss games, wait til you are an alumni. My brother is one, he has season tickets, and he went to the game Saturday. I think that it is more acceptable to mis a VT game as a student than as an alumni.

We have a small place in chesapeake that I like to go and we get plenty of trucks stuck out there... Just got a BRAND NEW 2004 H2 with 500 miles stuck last weekend.....


pbo2274, where at? My parents live down in Chesapeake and I'm always looking for places down their since there is nothing in Northern VA...

UPDATE: Sorry didn't see that someone already said.

Touchy Touchy -------------- Geeze


^^^ obviously not a Hokie

Unclemeat, you can bet your bottom dollar that I went (http://filebox.vt.edu/users/brwilso5/VT%20USC%20game/) Even with the loss it was AWESOME!

pbo2274, where at? My parents live down in Chesapeake and I'm always looking for places down their since there is nothing in Northern VA...

UPDATE: Sorry didn't see that someone already said.

like to know where that is my self. haven't been offroading since the snow came last year

Thought I may put some input in here.
I would rethink heading to GW near Harrisonburg, seems Kephart trail is closed, or at least the last few hundred yards, and thats the only challenge on the trail. The closing of old Long run last year made Kephart one of two remaining trails, Reddish Knob is still around, but not that difficult. The Dry River trails are hardly worth the trouble, and they are getting more and more tornup(bypasses around mud holes, people heading into and out of the holes from various directions) making the closure likely by the city of Harrisonburg at some point. Hardly makes it worth the drive for me at least.

You can have some fun but if you are looking to be challenged most likely you wont.

Pay to play (Crozet,Paragon,RaushCreek)on private land here on the east coast is the only real alternative as more and more public trails are closed funneling more and more traffic on the ones left, giving the FS and other bodies good reasons to close them. Sucks. Seems like its hard to get this turned around. Idiots who dont stay on the trails, throw their beer cans around, and disregard and tear down the signs dont help out at all.

The private land out in Crozet may be a better choice, havent been, but the reports back sound good to great. It aslo may be closer for most of you.

Thought I may put some input in here.
I would rethink heading to GW near Harrisonburg, seems Kephart trail is closed, or at least the last few hundred yards, and thats the only challenge on the trail. The closing of old Long run last year made Kephart one of two remaining trails, Reddish Knob is still around, but not that difficult. The Dry River trails are hardly worth the trouble, and they are getting more and more tornup(bypasses around mud holes, people heading into and out of the holes from various directions) making the closure likely by the city of Harrisonburg at some point. Hardly makes it worth the drive for me at least.

Yeah, the dry run (or is it Kephardt?) trail is fun if you want to do some over night camping, but only challenging if you do the spur and try to run up the waterfalls off the trail, which I've never done. (illegal) I did come close to rolling my truck on the drop that leads into the spur

Yeah, the dry run (or is it Kephardt?) trail is fun if you want to do some over night camping, but only challenging if you do the spur and try to run up the waterfalls off the trail, which I've never done. (illegal) I did come close to rolling my truck on the drop that leads into the spur

Well according to a report from someone on the GWNF board, the Forest Service has bermed and blocked the both the spur and a couple hundred yards before the waterfall at the end of Kephart. Pushed by the damage from the illegal hill climbs and the increased traffic on the trail I believe.

Steve,
What is the name of the place in Grozet? Do you know how to contact them? Paragon and Roush creek are so far away. I want to go some place that requires a little thought, not just mud boggin.

VT? Didn't they get whipped on the first game buy USC??



Sorry dude, had to say it!

Been going out to Tuskers Gap in the GWNF. It has a lot for more ATV's, but there is a OHV trail just for trucks. It has lots of rocky areas and tight squeezes. but it is a pretty fun trek, took the H2 there and if that beast can fit around in it then the explorers would even better since they are not that big. If any of y'all want to go out there, its a good time, no mud, but some pretty fierce hills.

let me know, i try and get out there at least once a month, theres lots of camping around the area too.

VT? Didn't they get whipped on the first game buy USC??
Sorry dude, had to say it!

Yeah, holding the #1 team in the nation to a modest win (which was only decided in the last 5 min) after being up at half time (in a game NO ONE expected the young VT team to even show up to)... yeah, i guess you can call that a whipping. :rolleyes: Actually, if you want to talk ass whoopin's, lets see what happens when Morgantown tries to bring its sh!t to blacksburg this year. Man I can't wait to not have to play WV teams any more ;) Once again, the state of Virginia has seen the light and is pushing away our western neighbor, leaving them high and dry with no identity (or in this case, the Big Least) :p

So where is Tuskers gap?

So where is Tuskers gap?

Tuskers gap is over by Edenburg North of Staunton. I have rode my dirtbike up there a couple of times. I got a real bad case of monkey butt from all the rocks. Not a fun place on a dirtbike. They have a place there called the rock garden, but, I don't know if it is open to 4 wheel drives. I had to get off my bike and walk it over the rocks. It took me 5 hours pulling a trailer from VA Beach.

Tuskers gap is over by Edenburg North of Staunton.

How far north of staunton? I'm about 1 3/4 hours from staunton

Looks about 40 miles North. Once you get to Edinburg you will head into the mountains from there, about another 30 minutes or so.

All I know is it is about 40 min from herndon, the way I drive i guess. But there trail open to 4wd trucks is pretty cool, lots of ruts, rocks and hills. you can hit tuskers gap on exit 279 on I-81. there is a place to park your trailers if you bring ATV's and such, and then you can just disconnect the trailer if you want to take the trucks on the trails, its fun, i have a hoot everytime i go.

Sweet I live in Herndon when I'm not at school. I might have to try that place.

Sweet I live in Herndon when I'm not at school. I might have to try that place.

Funny, next time your in the area we should meet up and do some wheeling dude. Brea, same with you! :exporange

I think its about time we have a meet & greet or atleast something.. There's a nice place called Buffalo Wing University in the Court Yard Plaza in Fairfax. On Tuesdays its .39 wings & $7 pitchers.

I think its about time we have a meet & greet or atleast something.. There's a nice place called Buffalo Wing University in the Court Yard Plaza in Fairfax. On Tuesdays its .39 wings & $7 pitchers.


Sounds good to me! Hell, even the Hooters in Fairfax anytime. ;) Anyone else be interested??

Funny, next time your in the area we should meet up and do some wheeling dude. Brea, same with you! :exporange
Definately man, maybe Thanksgiving or something. (My first break)

On Tuesdays its .39 wings & $7 pitchers.

damn, thats expensive as sh!t

damn, thats expensive as sh!t

Not around here dude... :rolleyes:

Funny, keep us up to date when you'll be back in Nov.

Im up for anything, whether its hooters, Wing King (or what ever its called), i am definately in. I love g2g's.

:thumbsup:

Not around here dude... :rolleyes:

Yeah, we went out in Georgetown the night before the USC game.. my Lord that put a hurtin' on my wallet. I miss Bladderbusters in Charleston, SC. You pay a $4 cover, and its gratis all you can drink light beers until the first person in the bar goes to the bathroom. Then its $1 bud lights after that.

Steve,
What is the name of the place in Grozet? Do you know how to contact them? Paragon and Roush creek are so far away. I want to go some place that requires a little thought, not just mud boggin.

Josh, dont know the name, a couple who belong to OCC run it. Ill check on the contact info. They are just starting up, reservations only I believe. I was going to go down last week, but family plans got in the way. It is on my list of places to go.
Im heading up to Rausch creek this weekend with OCC- just for the day, but tons of guys go up friday and leave sunday. So the longer drive isnt too bad, actually i think someone from VA beach is heading up. FWIW. Im told its 2+hours from my house, and 2 1/2+ hours from DC beltway.

Im up for anything, whether its hooters, Wing King (or what ever its called), i am definately in. I love g2g's.

Cool. Anyone else in the area wanna try to do a get together sometime in November?

Hokie: Their used to be a place across from George Mason U. called Fat Tuesday's that did something similar. Only on Thursday's though. I think they still have dollar bottles until 7 though. Which is rare to come by around here...

Hey for all y'all who live around hampton roads area, i used to be a member of an off road chapter there, and there is some really cool people, and some not so cool, but either way, a lot of pep's to go Mud guppin with and such. its at offroadworld.net and go to the virginia chapter. its pretty cool, and they know a few areas down there to tear up the mud. I heard they opened the amphetheater up again so that could be cool.

so we are gonna do a trip in Nov. out to go have fun right? it would sooo kick a55.

What do youi mean they opened the VBAT back up? Are you refering to the trails near it? I live right by it but the few times I've seen people out there, they were getting tickets.

What do youi mean they opened the VBAT back up? Are you refering to the trails near it? I live right by it but the few times I've seen people out there, they were getting tickets.


Josh, I heard it was not blocked off any longer, and that you could get into there with your trucks, now it is probably still not so legal, as it was before you got tickets, but it was accessable again.

Have you checked out the old haunted forest on military and battlefield? its right off of battlefield, right after the tire merchants on the right (when going north) theres a drive way into it, kinda dangerous to drive into it in the middle of the day, but its cool. They also have the area off of shore drive open. I dont know exactly how to get to it, but i can find out.

, now it is probably still not so legal, as it was before you got tickets, but it was accessable again.
.............., kinda dangerous to drive into it in the middle of the day, but its cool. They also have the area off of shore drive open. I dont know exactly how to get to it, but i can find out.

:fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire:

Do everyone a favor and stay to legal trails and discourage those who use the illegal ones. If you don't have permission to run it- dont. We (the 4x community) are loosing the battle against trail closures, riding where we shouldnt doesnt help.

So anybody interested in a run to the GWNF this fall? Perhaps the Harrisonburg contegent can scope the trails and let us know. Or even Shoe Creek.

Steve, any more information on Crozet?

Steve, any more information on Crozet?

Not yet, I do know OCC is headed there on the weekend of 10/2, I dont know the details yet but may try and go for one day depending on my sons soccer schedule. Ill try and get some info later this week.

I wanted to add, I was up to Rausch Creek this weekend, and it is a great place. Trails - green blue, black and red, so something for everyone. Not a day trip for you VA guys but would definitely be a good weekend trip.

:fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire:

Do everyone a favor and stay to legal trails and discourage those who use the illegal ones. If you don't have permission to run it- dont. We (the 4x community) are loosing the battle against trail closures, riding where we shouldnt doesnt help.


sorry, i didnt mean any harm. i wasnt thinking about promoting bad stuff, just thaught i would share some places i have been, sorry though.

Canal drive is your best bet for legal stuff. The owner has given every one a verbal okay, and the police know it, he just wont write the approval up for liability.

Sorry about the messup. :(

Josh, I heard it was not blocked off any longer, and that you could get into there with your trucks, now it is probably still not so legal, as it was before you got tickets, but it was accessable again.

Have you checked out the old haunted forest on military and battlefield? its right off of battlefield, right after the tire merchants on the right (when going north) theres a drive way into it, kinda dangerous to drive into it in the middle of the day, but its cool. They also have the area off of shore drive open. I dont know exactly how to get to it, but i can find out.

Well I have done the illegal thing in the past. I have also been in front of 2 judges in two different cities. I do not trasspass any more. I have seen the fuzz sitting at the end of a trail across from the VA Beach sports complex near the VBAT waiting for people to come out. Yea it sucks having to drive 4 hours or more to go wheelin but it beats a class 1 mistermener which was max fine of 1000 and 1 year in jail. One of the judges said if he ever saw me again I was going to jail. That was enough for me.

sorry, i didnt mean any harm. i wasnt thinking about promoting bad stuff, just thaught i would share some places i have been, sorry though.

Canal drive is your best bet for legal stuff. The owner has given every one a verbal okay, and the police know it, he just wont write the approval up for liability.

Sorry about the messup. :(
Who owns that property? I used to go back there a long time ago but stopped because if you were seen by the oil workers they would call the police.

Carl something (dont remember his last name) He owns the ice cream shop at the top of canal, (if you get on canal from military and go north for about 1/2 mile, you either have to turn left or right, and the shop is on the left far corner). anyways, he is very nice and has helped me out a bunch when i would get stuck there, he has a tractor and lots of tow ropes hahaha. Any ways, he told us that we are free to go back and tear up the mud, but just dont ruin the main dirt road in and the dock area by the canal. And Police have showed up plenty of times, and they dont like us back there cause some stupid people go off by the powerlines (which is a BIG fine) but as for the main area, they cant do a damn thing and they know it cause Carl has told them. And he is out there a lot, he drives a huge red F350 Duelly, he sits by the canal a lot, and watches us get stuck for amusement i guess.

Are you talking right there were canal meets GW highway? Is it a big area? Or just a couple of mud holes?

Where his ice cream shop is yes, sorry i forgot the name of that road but it is GWHwy. Any who, Where canal is located, if you take a right on to canal from military (or left depending dir.) the first right which is BroadMoore, head down it and stay to the right cause it splits and follow it back till you see a dirt road on the right (if you go straight you wll head to the powerlines). and its right there. And it is a pretty big area. There is car pieces in the deep holes so feel it all out with a stick prior to going thru, I split my tire on several mufflers there, but most everyone who goes there is good about if they see stuff they pick it up and throw it into the forest. It can get pretty dry, but when its wet its hella fun. And especially the little circle on the right side of the field, its real deep back there and fun, Got an H2 stuck there and no one could pull it out. hahah.

yeahhhhhhhhhh, about time I found some fellow Va xplorers around here! I know of 2 fellas in the fredericksburg area that are up for a meet and greet, I was wanting to try to get a day to roll to the beach if it ever cleared up! Glad to see quite a few of you all are trying to get something going!

Where did everybody go? Anybody serious about a GWNF run this fall?

I would'nt mind checking out that place in Crozet sometime. I ended up going out with an Exterra club and had a lot of fun. I'm waiting to hear back from SteveVB on some contact info.

Please share the info.

Dont worry, I will post it here, but, I'm sure SteveVB will too.

I started the e-mail and then didnt follow through, Ill try and get to it tonight or tomorrow am.

Hey guys!

I've been promising JoshC and Yob Yeknom for years that I would try to get down that way for a run, but I haven't seen anything really worthwhile yet (pardon my ignorance if I missed something). I'm about 3 hours from Richmond, and 5 from Roanoke (My limit on driving time to a run is 4 hours with an overnight stay). Blee1099 drives to DC every day for work, I'm sure he wouldn't mind coming down to get in some wheelin too....

If y'all have a run within 4 hours of me I can try to make it, although I'd have to hitch a ride with someone- Tank's still not legal and even if he was, I wouldn't trust the old fart to make such a long trip in one piece.

So what's going on with this? You guys have a date and a place yet? I'm too lazy to backtrack through 5 pages of BSing :confused:

I am really up for something. Whatever and whenever. Im heading down to VA. Beach this weekend, and hoping to get Ed a little dirty (not the explorer, the F150), and so if anyone down there would like to join, let me know.

Lets do the GWNF thingi ;)

I am really up for something. Whatever and whenever. Im heading down to VA. Beach this weekend, and hoping to get Ed a little dirty (not the explorer, the F150), and so if anyone down there would like to join, let me know.

Lets do the GWNF thingi ;)

Where in Va Beach? I move down there tomorrow (29th)

There are no legal places down here that I know of. Don't get caught. :p

Josh we've been thru this on the legal places down there, i am heading to Canal. It is legal, so no stress. I looked at the weather and it should be rainy on sat, so that makes it good and gooey in the mud. :D

I would'nt mind checking out that place in Crozet sometime. I ended up going out with an Exterra club and had a lot of fun. I'm waiting to hear back from SteveVB on some contact info.

Sorry it took so long, I wanted to make sure it was ok to post the info. Ive included Chris's e-mail addy for further info:

From: "Chris Packard" <jeepnchris@xjsrule.com> [Add to Address Book] [View Source]
To: "Steve" <stevevb@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Crozet questions
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 01:34:36 +0000


Steve,

We are open for guided trail rides. We need to have about 4 or 5 rigs
minimum and say 10 max. We charge 30.00 per weekend with primitive camping
available (Friday night, Saturday night camping and showers are available),
and 20.00 per day. We require a few days notice. Our trails are rated
Blue, Black, and Red. Let me know if you have any questions.

Chris Packard

Josh we've been thru this on the legal places down there, i am heading to Canal. It is legal, so no stress. I looked at the weather and it should be rainy on sat, so that makes it good and gooey in the mud. :D

Sorry, I was thinking VA Beach. I would go, but, My wife is leaving for Germany for 3 weeks Sunday and I have a trip to DC as well. dgibson lives near there and I think he goes out there alot.

Well Josh, hope she has a good trip, i love Germany been there and would love to live there, hope shes going for pleasure. And hope your drive up here is good.How long you gonna be in D.C?

From: "Chris Packard" <jeepnchris@xjsrule.com> [Add to Address Book] [View Source]
To: "Steve" <stevevb@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Crozet questions
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 01:34:36 +0000


Steve,

We are open for guided trail rides. We need to have about 4 or 5 rigs
minimum and say 10 max. We charge 30.00 per weekend with primitive camping
available (Friday night, Saturday night camping and showers are available),
and 20.00 per day. We require a few days notice. Our trails are rated
Blue, Black, and Red. Let me know if you have any questions.

Chris Packard[/QUOTE]

Anybody intersted. I am in if we can go in the next few weeks. I believe that I can get another truck to go.

I just joined this week and I am located in Smithfield Va. I would be very interested in hooking up sometime. I am only an hour away from Richmond or Va Bch. I have a 99 sport with 35's and would love to do a little riding
DT

Donaldthacker: what kind of lift do you have to fit 35's I was wondering because I have a 99 sport also?

I live out here in Norfolk let me know when you guys are going to make your next run out at that Canal spot. That's off military right, anyone have directions.

Last I knew out by Leesburg was a place that you could go fourwheeling at and as long as you were out by dark the cops pretty much looked the other way (aka not illegal as long as you followed the BIG giant rules sign there). The last time I was there there was a white f250 that was pretty much impossibly stuck (minus three other trucks and possibly a wrecker to get him out) Picture an upside down 7 with the top part being the ground and the angle being the truck. Literally the rear wheels were about 5 feet off the ground and it was there for about 3 weeks before one day it mysteriously vanished. The lake is Fairfax Citys reservoir BUT the land is in Loudon county/city of leesburg. I used to go up there routinely throughout the summer to go swimming in the reservoir but it got gated when 6 people drowned at once (idiotic woman that cant swim with 5 kids hanging on her on a rock in neck deep water) but there are trails out there last I checked that werent gated, blocked or Bouldered over. If anyone is interested Id be more then willing to check and see if it is still passable out there at some point.

I can try to get in touch with a few friends to see if they know of any other areas in the Northern Va area that are open or non illegal to offroad at.

/wont get to go fourwheeling due to stock height with broken 4x4 'ho

:fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire:

Do everyone a favor and stay to legal trails and discourage those who use the illegal ones. If you don't have permission to run it- dont. We (the 4x community) are loosing the battle against trail closures, riding where we shouldnt doesnt help.


Yeah and there is so many places to go... Whatever Man.. I say get MUDDY where ya can.. And BREA' BTW ur explorer is not a 94 its a 97 change ur signature,, or gimme my truck back... :confused: :D

PBO2274


Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveVB


Do everyone a favor and stay to legal trails and discourage those who use the illegal ones. If you don't have permission to run it- dont. We (the 4x community) are loosing the battle against trail closures, riding where we shouldnt doesnt help.


Yeah and there is so many places to go... Whatever Man.. I say get MUDDY where ya can.. And BREA' BTW ur explorer is not a 94 its a 97 change ur signature,, or gimme my truck back...


Which is better, Being able to go places without having to pay tickets, get your truck outta impound etc or getting a ticket for trespassing plus having to do the previously mentioned in addition to having to pay off a bunch of tickets for ANYTHING that is mildy illegal on your truck?

I see your point but at the same time I have been present when the cops have blocked and waited for mudders, trepsassers and street racers to try to leave (different places different times) Be a hard ass all you want but the cost outweighs the benefits after a time.

your call and your choice but me Id rather have limited options and NO tickets rather then do what I want and have to pay the state even more $$ then I already have.

PBO2274


Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveVB


Do everyone a favor and stay to legal trails and discourage those who use the illegal ones. If you don't have permission to run it- dont. We (the 4x community) are loosing the battle against trail closures, riding where we shouldnt doesnt help.


Yeah and there is so many places to go... Whatever Man.. I say get MUDDY where ya can.. And BREA' BTW ur explorer is not a 94 its a 97 change ur signature,, or gimme my truck back...


Which is better, Being able to go places without having to pay tickets, get your truck outta impound etc or getting a ticket for trespassing plus having to do the previously mentioned in addition to having to pay off a bunch of tickets for ANYTHING that is mildy illegal on your truck?

I see your point but at the same time I have been present when the cops have blocked and waited for mudders, trepsassers and street racers to try to leave (different places different times) Be a hard ass all you want but the cost outweighs the benefits after a time.

your call and your choice but me Id rather have limited options and NO tickets rather then do what I want and have to pay the state even more $$ then I already have.


Like I said man U do what U want and I will do the same.. Down here there really isnt many places to go so, its either MUD when ya can and take the risk or dont... So thats my 2cents and thats what we do.. BTW The places we go we have seen cops there actually they have taken pictures of a STUCK H2 and havent done anything but forward us the pics VIA email.... :o

BTW The places we go we have seen cops there actually they have taken pictures of a STUCK H2 and havent done anything but forward us the pics VIA email.... :o


Then it must not be illegal. So wheel on.

We used to ride out in P town at this place called Craddock AKA the Mud Flats. The police used to come out and watch us ride our dirtbikes all the time for about 4 years. Then one day out of the blue, They started writing tickets. Because of what I do, I cant afford to have encounters with the law. It could cost me my job and I like the whole roof over my head thing, but, if you can get away with it and have fun, more power to ya. Besides, if I'm lucky, I'll get a job offer from Colorado soon and I'm gone! I cant stand the East coast, no offense to those that do;)

Like I said man U do what U want and I will do the same.. Down here there really isnt many places to go so, its either MUD when ya can and take the risk or dont... So thats my 2cents and thats what we do.. BTW The places we go we have seen cops there actually they have taken pictures of a STUCK H2 and havent done anything but forward us the pics VIA email.... :o

Yeah and there is so many places to go... Whatever Man.. I say get MUDDY where ya can..If you cannot find a legal place nearby, then you search ELSEWHERE for a legal place. It's the idiots who illegally tear shit up that make the rest of us who have common sense and decency look bad. :mad:

I've been out of the loop for awhile, but I am looking for a wheeling weekend here pretty soon. The leaves are peaking now so a fall colors run is out of the question. Regardless, we need to a run going!

Brian,

I am in. I have a few weekends that I can't go, but if I am available I'm ready. Do you think we should do the GWNF? It would be nice to go before hunting season opens.

To the other outlaw wheelers, if you have not been to the GWNF to wheel then you need to. Its completly legal if you simply tread lightly. Spectacular views, rough camping, a little mud (enough to stick your truck), and some rock crawling really beats Va beach mud. So lets get a run together.

I am also in. If you guys put something together please let me know

Anybody, GWNF or the private land in Crozet? If we set a date then can make final plans. How about the first weekend in December for GWNF or the last weekend in November for Crozet.

I will be in the big sand box during that time or I would be interested.

I hope that that big sand box a beach and not a desert.

I wish. I will be away from the action. Sometimes I would love to go over there and bag me some bad guys.

I don't think I'll be able to go until after the New Year. The semester is wrapping up, so my weekends are pretty packed with work to get done. However, if lots of other people agree that Nov or Dec or better I might be able to work something out.

Sorry, I had to move the hell outta VA. It was nice hitting the beaches down in OBX, but Va Beach has some fords, too! They used to chase me away from the trails by the jet base. Man, I hate VA... no offense, lol

Ditto! I am hoping to get a job in Colorado or Washington state.

Sorry, I had to move the hell outta VA. It was nice hitting the beaches down in OBX, but Va Beach has some fords, too! They used to chase me away from the trails by the jet base. Man, I hate VA... no offense, lol

im in midlothian about 20min south of richmond im up for a meet pretty much anywhere anytime if its wheelin though i might have to ride w/ someone on the trail :(

Whats up fellow virginians, i'm new on this board and to offroading. I'm in Leesburg and down for some trail riding shortly, seems like something almost came together....

Welcome to the site. Hopefully we can get a run together soon.

Yes welcome to the board. I would like to get a run going sometime. Anybody know the guy with the green Ex with the 4-link SAS? I would like to know where he got that from. I think he works out of Oceana.

Yes welcome to the board. I would like to get a run going sometime. Anybody know the guy with the green Ex with the 4-link SAS? I would like to know where he got that from. I think he works out of Oceana.


What color is your truck? I'm always out and about down here and I ahve seen alot of lifted 1st gens

Yes welcome to the board. I would like to get a run going sometime. Anybody know the guy with the green Ex with the 4-link SAS? I would like to know where he got that from. I think he works out of Oceana.

His name is Carl. He does work at Oceana. Carl and I are both members of the same offroad club. www.hicenterdor.com He made the 4link hisself. The guy is a total wizard when it comes to things like that. Which one of his x's have you seen? He has one on 35's he is selling and another on 40's.

hey I tried to contact the hicentered club and no one responded to my emails. Are they for real? I want to get out and play some

yeah they are for real. some of the guys get really busy but i'm sure they will get back to you. who did you try to contact? Travis is the president, and he is pretty good.

finally hooked up with the hicenterod guys and had a little fun until the currituck deputies decided it was time to stop. Anyway I am going to make a few runs with them.

thanks

What color is your truck? I'm always out and about down here and I ahve seen alot of lifted 1st gens

My truck is red or Burgundy depending on who you talk to.

His name is Carl. He does work at Oceana. Carl and I are both members of the same offroad club. www.hicenterdor.com He made the 4link hisself. The guy is a total wizard when it comes to things like that. Which one of his x's have you seen? He has one on 35's he is selling and another on 40's.

I wonder if he has the means to make another set of brackets? I saw the green truck. it looked nice. I want to do a SAS one of these days. I think airbags would be cool instead of springs$$$$$

i'm sure he does. i might see him tomorrow, and if so i'll ask him if he can.

finally hooked up with the hicenterod guys and had a little fun until the currituck deputies decided it was time to stop. Anyway I am going to make a few runs with them.

thanks


You missed a good time Saturday. We didn't get pulled by the cops, but Travis blew his radiator. PM me your email and i'll send you the few pics that me and my wife took.

i'm sure he does. i might see him tomorrow, and if so i'll ask him if he can.

Danny,
Did you get a chance to talk to Carl about the 4 link setup?

We got out there and i forgot to ask him. I'll give him a call tomorrow, and post on here tomorrow evening.

Is anybody looking for a 4.0 to rebuild or play with? I have the old motor out of my truck in my garage. It has about 220K on it but it ran fine when I pulled it. I just want it out of my garage. It is the long block only all sensors, accesories, and fuel injectors are on the new motor. I would be willing to deliver or meet with in a 100 mile radius for gas money. I also have a front pumpkin with 3.55 gears all out of my 91.

Is anybody interested in a run to private park in Crozet. I am thinking first or second weekend in March.

Where is Crozet at? I may be insterested in something if it has some challenging trails.

It is just west of Charlotesville. I got and email from the owner, they said they have three levels of trails. I have not called them back yet. I get the impression that the park has lots of rock crawl terrain and most of the trails are at least moderately difficult. They have a web site xjsrule.com. I have no idea what to expect, but for $20 for the day$30 for the weekend I am very intersted. I believe that they host Mountain jam rock crawl competition.

bump

If you go to Crozet...from what I've heard...don't take anyone stock...and plan on taking the low levels even with 31s or 33s

The Maryland Creepers are planning a run to Crozet in April...If my Runner is finished by the time yall go I might come down with ya....(be nice to get a knowledge of the place lol)

I ain't scard. I am not stock.

I aint scared just short on money :confused: If I break something important, I'm SOL.

I understand, if I break somthing important it is motivation for me to upgrade and modify. Plus Crozet is less than 90-minutes from home.

If we can get a group together the easiest trails would most likely be the objective. That should attract more intrest, and break the least equipment.

i'll almost def come down with yall... and I'm sure we can talk Lindsy and Blee into coming haha

Well how about some dates? The second or third weekend in March would be good for me right now. My work schedule changes every other day though. What about camping? Might be worth paying the extra 10 bucks and camp if its available.

Well how about some dates? The second or third weekend in March would be good for me right now. My work schedule changes every other day though. What about camping? Might be worth paying the extra 10 bucks and camp if its available.


The first or second weekend in MAR sounds great. The weekend of the 19th is a trail ride at RAUSCH CREEK to the North and VMP mud bog to the south near Petersburg. Let me know if you end up planning the CROZET trip on the first or second weekend.

Is there anyone in the Va Beach/Chesapeake area that would want to get together around town or know of any place around HR to go wheeling?

Just got my lift...'94 X, 4" superlift, 32x11.5 BFG AT (VERY PLEASED WITH THE LIFT I MIGHT ADD, good job Pungo Off Road!), Flowmaster Catback, pace setter headers, KKM intake, all kenwood sound system

So you went to pung huh? They did mine as well. I asked for a 4" and got 4 in the back and 5.5 in the front. They also promised me a couple of days, which turned into a week. I think if I wouldnt have bothered them so much, they would have taken 2 weeks. And then after being 5 days late, The owner told me to bring the beer. :fire: The only good thing was the price.

Wow, I didn't have any problems...mine was a day late they said because the springs for the rear weren't in. Other that that I got mine the day after I dropped it off. Have you had any problems with your lift other than the difference in height??

No except they said they would relocate the front brakelines but all they did was take the retaining nut off where the hard line is secured to the spring bucket and pull it through. I have talked to others that have had some half ass work done from them. Never again. Now that I look back on it, I could have done it myself. The rear could be done in hour or two. The front I'm guesing would be 6 to 8 because you would have to grind off a bunch of rivets. Oh well live and learn.

Anyone in Hampton Roads know of any place to go off roadin'?????

Depends on what you are looking for. The club that I am in goes a couple times a month. Right now, they are down in NC doing a little offroading for the weekend. 664 off of Portsmouth Blvd has a decent little spot if you are wanting to just throw some mud.

for anyone who is interested, the offroad club that i am in is going to either pungo or suffolk for some offroading april 30. there are a couple of places that just opened up. it cost $15 to offroad all dayh long. just let me know if you are interested and i will find out all the times, etc..

for anyone who is interested, the offroad club that i am in is going to either pungo or suffolk for some offroading april 30. there are a couple of places that just opened up. it cost $15 to offroad all dayh long. just let me know if you are interested and i will find out all the times, etc..

Where do you go in Suffolk and pay to offroad? Is it a park that recently opened or private land?

Sounds interesting. I'll be back May 6th. Is it just mud bogs or is there other stuff?

Where do you go in Suffolk and pay to offroad? Is it a park that recently opened or private land?

i'm not sure where it is at, it was brought up at our club meeting on Saturday. i'll call the prez and see exactly where we are going and i'll let you know.

Sounds interesting. I'll be back May 6th. Is it just mud bogs or is there other stuff?

pretty much a lot of mud i believe. we are suppose to be going to uharwe (something like that) in May but it might get bumped because of monsters on the beach is in may. if it's open every weekend, i can see the guys going out there more often

anyone know where i can find an x with a blown motor? my buddies neighbor rolled his x and the only thing wrong is the body.

Wanted to say HI. I went to Crozet and was dissapointed to see no X's there. It was an awesome competition. Also I am Located 15 min from the national forest and know all the trails so if a run is started i couold lead if need be.
-Nick Good

I am ready for a run in the GWNF. Sometime in middle May would work for me.

Crozet is open for wheeling (pay to play). Did you get to check out any of theit trails?

I didnt see all of the trails. I onyl saw the trails by the creeke bed where the compition was going on. They looked pretty hardcore. Looks like fun.

So what trails have you done in the GWNF around, Harrisonburg? Last trip we did second mountian and down Dictums. Any thin more challenging?

thos etwo trailsa are about as hard as it gets. the only other good one is kephart, but they shut it down half way.

if anyone around the tidewater area wants to do some offroading saturday, let me know. the 4x4 club that i'm in is going saturday and the more the merrier.

Where are you going?

if we go to the same spot as last weekend, then it will be off of damneck road close to the va beach ampitheater. I'll try to post a couple of pics of last weekend this evening, my neighbor has the disk with all the pics right now.

Here's a pic from last weekend. It was a blast. I still haven't finished cleaning the x yet.

I hear ya, use them boggers! That's a sweet pic!

Mud makes you beautiful!

these tires really suck on the highway but off of it, man theres nothing better. even when it felt like the x was bogging down the tires just kept pulling it forward

If you were going the next weekend (May7) I would be there, but this weekend I have to go up to Fairfax. Sheot! Almost done with my lift too.

there's going to be a lot more weekends with this club. we do at least one run a month and if people want to come along, they are more than welcome. last month they went down to some place in NC.

I am tied up this weekend. I am interested in some other weekend. I still want to do a trip to Crozet for a little rock crawling (I am more of a mudder than crawler).

i might be out of it this weekend anyway. i think i blew the seal for the torque convertor yesterday. i'll find out this evening when we pull the tranny out

I'll be back in town next week end. I would like to make a run to Grozet too. Of course since I've been gone for a month, next weekend will be a wash. After that I should be good for a few weekends.

Danny
Where did you take those pics? Was that the new place you were talking about?

it was off of dam neck road between princess anne road and rosemount. one of the guys in the club knows the owner and he said we could go out there.

We should go out there. I'm dying for a new paint job.

Just got my lift...'94 X, 4" superlift, 32x11.5 BFG AT (VERY PLEASED WITH THE LIFT I MIGHT ADD, good job Pungo Off Road!), Flowmaster Catback, pace setter headers, KKM intake, all kenwood sound system

Foggman, I'd love to know more about Pungo Off Road. Do they have a website or anything?

it was off of dam neck road between princess anne road and rosemount. one of the guys in the club knows the owner and he said we could go out there.

So hows about this weekend??? I ready.

I might be down. I just have to see if my front lift comes in.

Damn I'll be in the middle of a move. If I'm sufficiently done I'll be down for that sunday.

Danny,
Don't know if you'll get this in time or not. I'll be onboard tomorrow and maybe Friday in CVIC. If you know who ET1 Figgins is, she can point me out. Another way is to look for the only 300 pound ugly Hawaiian guy. What about that mud hole off Dam neck road???? Sounds like some others are getting the itch for a road trip too.

I might have to join u guys. Bring your tow straps though in case u need to pull out a 4x2. Wanna test out these 4.56s and truetrac.

Time and Place let us know!

hi, i'm new here just found this from #################, i been lookin to go wheelin with some va people, i get around roanoke and salem if anyone is over there or about but i'm stock 4x2 so if anyone wants to wheel with me dont forget your winch.

Sorry i didn't respond Josh, I was Charleston, SC for a week working. I left the Roosevelt in February. I do know ET1 Figgins. If anyone is interested in offroading this weekend, I'll call and see if anyone from the club is going to be out there. I have to fly to Poland on Saturday so I won't be able to make it. Not to mention by x is still a busted pos as we speak. Hopefully I will have it back up in a day or so. I'm thinking about selling it so if you guys know anyone that wants one let me know.

Well I figured something like that. How come your selling your truck? Are you gonna fix it first or would you sell it as is? How much you want?

i'm fixing it first. just needs another vent tube for the tranny. little odds and ends stuff i am fixing also. I just think it's time for me to get something a little newer and that i can take if i have to travel. 11mpg is not exactly traveling gas mileage is you know what i mean. I want $4K for it but i might come down a little. I just put another transfer case in it plus I still have the other one sitting there. I have done a LOT of mods to this x so it will really is an awesome ride.

The club is going out there to damneck/princess anne area again this weekend. If you want just pm me and i'll give you travis's phone number. He is the president of the club.

ok bump: trying to go wheelin soetime

i would love to hit some mud or trails sometime, but i think with everything else my torque convertor has crapped out on me. might just go to uwrench it and get a new tranny and drop in and be finished with it

Well I have strted a new thread in the planning and discussion forum for a run in September. Unclemeat, have you had a chance to check out Grozet? Below is the link to the link to the thread. I have also seen a few new X's in the area. There is on black 1st gen and a black 2nd gen running around anybody know them? Danny, are you keeping your truck now?

Virginia Grozet/GWNF run (http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1240424#post1240424)

black second gen? Sport on about 33's? That is leetz from on here. I have seen one next to my work (1st gen 4 door dark blue on like 38's with a 9'' and D44). I have been running around alot on my mounty on 35's also. I'm game if anything comes up local

Does leetz let his girl drive alot? I mainly see her driving and him on occation. Get on the other thread so we can start brain stormin and spread the word. That first gen might have solid axles but could not tell. That might be dgibsons buddy Carl. I heard he had 2 monsters.

Well I have strted a new thread in the planning and discussion forum for a run in September. Unclemeat, have you had a chance to check out Grozet? Below is the link to the link to the thread. I have also seen a few new X's in the area. There is on black 1st gen and a black 2nd gen running around anybody know them? Danny, are you keeping your truck now?

Virginia Grozet/GWNF run (http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1240424#post1240424)

i have one other thing left to fix and then it's out of here. i love offroading, but it cost me too much right now. if it wasn't my daily driver it would be one thing, but right now money is too tight to do it

Oh shit my girlfriend was driving my drunk a** down the VA beach strip the other night, because I was druck as shit. 14 shots of top shelf tequilla from Red Star will make your girlfriend have to drive. Mine is a black 99 sport on 33" tires. SOA and Sloped body lift. So that was probably my truck you saw.

Was that you the other day at the intersection of Dam Neck and General Booth. You(?) were at the light and drove(on Gen Booth) by in a red(Burgundy) explorer with a 6" lift and 33s. Big ugly Hawain guy behind the wheel. Kind of hard to miss. Get subscribed to that other thread to go to GWNF or someplace in Sept if you are interested.

Probably was me. I work down in Sandbridge. Oh yeah I remember that X. Nice. That was definately me then.

Lets Do Something This Weekend!!!!!!

Looks like I'll be moving to the Richmond area from Wisconsin. Currently staying in Richmond, so if anyone is willing to show us around while we are here. Lemm'e know.

Also, Where in the heck do you apartment dwellers work on your vehicles. Unless we pay a fortune in rent there ain't no garages. :(

In VA until July 21.


Also, as we are thinking about moving what can everyone tell me about safety and emissions testing? Currently we have two '97 X's and an '87 Zuk

Looks like I'll be moving to the Richmond area from Wisconsin. Currently staying in Richmond, so if anyone is willing to show us around while we are here. Lemm'e know.

Also, Where in the heck do you apartment dwellers work on your vehicles. Unless we pay a fortune in rent there ain't no garages. :(

In VA until July 21.


Also, as we are thinking about moving what can everyone tell me about safety and emissions testing? Currently we have two '97 X's and an '87 Zuk
us apartmnt people do have it rough luckily i work at a dealership so i can work on it whenever, as far as emissions and saftey it sucks and there is only emmisions in northern va i think, not sure if the va beach arfe has it or not i know western va does not.

So in other words I need to get a job at a car shop!


With emission though if my truck has all working sensors and no CEL and stock exhaust should I be fine or is there more to it?

What about older vehicles?

And more importantly, WHERE's THE WHEEL'N!

I am a native Richmonder. George Washington National Forest is a large area with lots of trails, Few are challenging but it is still a cool place to hunt fish and camp. Crozet for rockcrawling. Outter banks in North Carolinia for sand. Not much around Richmond.

Safety inspection no emmisions. PM me if you have specific questions.

well, offroading is out. traded the x in. if anyone has a first gen with a lift, i have some parts in my shed if anyone needs some

got any rear shocks?

no shocks. i have some skyjacker stainless steel extended brake lines still int he package, a dual shock steering stabilizer never even put on the x but it's scratched up because of sitting in the back of the x, and some stereo equipment. my wife wants me to put these things in the trading post but i want to give guys on the website here first dibs

boomin, i think i saw you mounty the other day. we went to carvel and got some ice cream and i was saying something about the mounty and a guy walked out of radio shack i believe and went straight to it.

boomin, i think i saw you mounty the other day. we went to carvel and got some ice cream and i was saying something about the mounty and a guy walked out of radio shack i believe and went straight to it.


Thats me, I wonder what the chances of those brake lines fitting my truck?

I'm not sure. Are the disk brakes the same from the first gens to the second? I paid $100 for them from protrucks, and just never got around to installing them. Still in the package matter of fact.

well is there any way I can come see them? I get off work here at 3 and I am off for the next week.

if anyone in hampton roads is interested i know a place up on the peninsula with some nice mud holes and some little hill climbs its a pretty fun place to mess around at the guy who owns the land loves to see us out there. i got stuck last time because i was stock but soon i will be on 32 m/ts
well take the victory blvd exit in newport news turn right on the second light. its right behind K mart

Glad to hear that, because I'll have a pace to try out the 32's I just put on my x as soon as I put the body lift in this weekend. Busted one of the front body mount bolts while removing it, now have to drill out the bolt.

hi, ummmmm....... Ok i live in Roanoke Valley area so i'm down to go wheelin with anybody even remotely close who knows some good trails other than eagle rock.

you guys are making me wish i didn't get rid of my truck

Pete,
Does the guy live there or is it vacant land behind someplace?

I am interested in heading up to the land behind K'mart that Pete was talkin about. Anyone else? :thumbsup:

I was to but never got a response from Pete.

Well I might just go check it out this weekend and hopefully talk to the guy that owns the Land and maybe take some pictures

Pete shoulda answered back cuz Im from Alexandria and Iam thinking about taking a trip up to VA, and comin from the south I might as well stop by this "Super Mudhole Behind K-Mart, and just plain wheel out!

I would be interested also, let me know when you guys roll out there!

I might check it out this Sunday....say anound noon time, but as always the old lady might alrady have plans so no promises..

yeah, I think I know the spot you guys are talking about. My sis live off of Big Bethel road ( that always cracks me up) which is just off of Victory Blvd. If you guys get something going lemme know. I cant go this weekend I got 2 test next week, but anyone in the richmond/chester/chesterfield area wanna run sometime, lemme know.

I might check it out this Sunday....say anound noon time, but as always the old lady might alrady have plans so no promises..

Im game for sunday

Im game for sunday

What time? I also know of some spots around the princess anne area if you dont want to drive all the way up to NN.

anytime. I'll Pm you my phone number fogmann

Where at in the Princess Anne area? All the places I know of are private. The drive doesnt bother me.

there is a place by the ampitheater but I am not sure of the legality. I am also up for any type of a drive.

the place by the ampitheatre, are you talkin about the one right off Dam neck? near the farmers market? for a while I was going there almost everyday and never had any problems...although I did break a bracket there once though (lots of DEEP ditches to go through that dont look that deep)

I have seen the law waiting at the entrance to the one by the ampitheater catching people as they come out. The one across from the farmers market is private but there are some guys that have permission to go out there. dgibson on this forum knows them. There is another place out near Craddock off GW highway that some people have permission too but havent been there either.

sorry guys i kinda lost track of this thread. there are rumors that people have gotten tickets for going behind kmart, apparently the land is for sale now but i was out there on thursday and a cop drove by and didnt eve stop so i cant proove those rumors to be true or false. its rutted out now and isnt as fun as it used to be but still worth going out there if anyone else has a legal place i would be interested i just got my 31 mud terrains out on

oh yeah and im headed down to uwharrie the 7- 9th of april with my brothers isuzu club. im gonna bring my rig and take it on the easy stuff but whoever wants to meets us down there is more than welcome. here is the link to their thread about the triphttp://forum.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopic.php?p=32683
pete

try this link instead http://forum.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopic.php?p=32683

Well, DominicanX, Boomin and I met up at the wheelin' spot across from the farmers market today, It was good times, real sloppy 'cause of the rain. Unfortunately I had to take off earlier than I wanted to 'cause my left rear tire got a puncture on the inside wall :(

Sorry I had to take off guys, my wife wants to go next time. I'm free most afternoons and next weekend if you guys are interested. Tomarrow though I will probably be repacking bearings and greasing the front end, changing oil and all that good stuff.
Btw, good meetin you guys
Take care,
Lance

Well, DominicanX, Boomin and I met up at the wheelin' spot across from the farmers market today, It was good times, real sloppy 'cause of the rain. Unfortunately I had to take off earlier than I wanted to 'cause my left rear tire got a puncture on the inside wall :(

Sorry I had to take off guys, my wife wants to go next time. I'm free most afternoons and next weekend if you guys are interested. Tomarrow though I will probably be repacking bearings and greasing the front end, changing oil and all that good stuff.
Btw, good meetin you guys
Take care,
Lance

How does sunday sound again? I talked to Mike (DominicanX) and he said he is good for sunday. I ended up getting high centered in another rut after you left but other than that we had fun.

Yeah sounds good!

can i tag along next time if i dont have to work?
pete

C'mon pete, we'll be there sunday. Any specifiic time you guys want to meet? How does like noon sound? If you are up to it post on here and I will PM you my cell number.

Hows about we start planning an Early spring run to GWNF or Some where else? What do you guys think? The 10th Anniversary run is in May or June I think. I would like to get out in early April.

pete is going to uwarrie early april and I was probibly going to tag along there. I'll be 4wd with new tires by then :)

i'll know by wed or thursday if i have to work but im definatley there if i dont have to work. are you thinkin about goin to that spot across from farmers market if so ill need some directions i dont know where it is.
pete

Yes right across from the farmers market. Coming down princess anne toward the courthouse turn left on damneck and its an opening in the trees with an enterance about a 1/4 mile down on the right. Just stay to the left side at the beginning, ruts are kind of deep

I'll probably be able to make it Sunday, though not until a little after noon.. probably closer to 1:30.

Oh yeah, do we have permission to go out there. Just curious, I don't want to be appearing before a judge next month. :cool:

Chris, I'll def. be there on Sunday, and Josh I'm down for a GWNF run in April (assuming I won't be out of town...supposedly I have to go out of town for work either the whole month of Apr. or May)

Oh and We don't have "permission" but I have never had any problems going in or out of there with the law even while they drove past as I was coming out (bad timing). SOmeone on here said it was private...I thought is was city property cause of the power line but I dunno...I guess it's enter at your own risk.

Im going to try to figure out who owns it so we can get permission. If other people have permission then I dont think it will be a problem.

sorry boys i cant go on sunday i have to work, workin retail sucks
pete

I will be there just give me a time!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/418240

This is my cardomain website. Page 4 has the few pics from last Sunday when Boomin and I went to Newport News and them met up with the others out by Damn Neck.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/418240

This is my cardomain website. Page 4 has the few pics from last Sunday when Boomin and I went to Newport News and them met up with the others out by Damn Neck.

Looks like a blast... makes me really anxious to get out there. One question, do you think I'll have fun on 31" m/ts there or will I be on the end of a strap too much? That looks deep with Chris' truck in it.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/418240

This is my cardomain website. Page 4 has the few pics from last Sunday when Boomin and I went to Newport News and them met up with the others out by Damn Neck.

OH MAN. I really need to get the zuk's exhaust and 4wd fixed! You DO have mud holes in VA!!!

there was a stock 2wd chertokee out there and he didn't have much trouble. When I got stuck there I was high centered both times. Lots of room around the deep places but I still gotta try :)

ive been out behind k mart dozens of times and dozens of times when i was stock. there are some REALLY deep holes but there are easy ways to get around all of them with my 31's i have no problem out there. youll have fun just feel out the holes before you go through them. its really been rutted out back in ocotber i could get through that spot where boomin got stuck stock but i wouldnt even think about goin through it now even with my 31's but yall have fun if you go up there i wish i could be there
pete

chris
is that first picture at kmart or dam neck. i guess i should have looked more closely before i posted i dont think thats k mart

The first one is behind k-mart. I was almost all the way to the right side

Chris, did you ever find out who owns that land on Dam Neck?

Is everyone still good to go tomarrow? say around 1?

I'm in, where are we meeting? At the spot on Dam Neck? Where exactly is it? I'll get there as soon as I can, but may be more like 1:30 for me.

Sounds good, yeah the place on Dam neck. If you are going down Princess Anne like you're going to the court house, take a left on to Dam Neck and just as you pass the Farmers market (on the left) you will see a few little driveway cut outs in the curb (with no drive ways behind them)...just turn in to the one with a bunch of muddy tire tracks leading out of it. I will probably try to be out there by around 1 and my Brother in law with his stock jeep and possibly a buddy with a stock ranger.

I live right around the corner from there (right behind the 7-11 on P.A.) so if anyone wants to meet up at my place or the farmers market just let me know 761-6576.
Lance

Still waiting on a call back on permission. There are no "no tresspassing" signs and I tried to call so im still going.

Anyone want to help me install a manifold gasket today? I need a warm garage for like 45 mins.

chris your still getting stuck,lol jk, when are you gonna be 4x4 again

chris your still getting stuck,lol jk, when are you gonna be 4x4 again

Within 2 months. Trailmaster 4'', perrys 3'' glass fenders, 35'' X-terrains, 4:10s

I am still tracking down a 4406 manual with all the linkage now. I can't find one anywhere and I WILL make it fit without changing the gas tank.

By the summer the front and rear should be locked

Still waiting on a call back on permission. There are no "no tresspassing" signs and I tried to call so im still going.

Anyone want to help me install a manifold gasket today? I need a warm garage for like 45 mins.

If you would have said something sooner I would have let you use mine. Only problem is your truck won't fit in most garages. Maybe if you flatten your tires or have a spare set of pizza cutters you can throw on.

actually I have found I can fit in almost every garage. I just can't hit the brakes hard then going in. My roof rack comes about 1/2'' from the top of most.

Thanks Josh for the offer, I am going to Foggman's tomorrow morning to do the gasket.


As of right now I have 2 people meeting me out there from my work to wheel.

sweet, my truck is on hold except i might bend up an exhuast someday, but im working on the explorer, shaving everything and redooing the seats and some other stuff to get it ready for some shows

Today I saw what had to be the gayest(SP) Explorer I have ever seen, EVER! It had the back side windows covered and the whole roof and back side and half the tailgate was covered in that cheesy vinyl with padding. Inside was wall to wall green carpet. Thank god it was in the junkyard. :rolleyes:

Sorry a little off subject but had to get it out.

any 95+ 4x4?

There was a 2nd gen out there but not sure if it was 4wd. Pick-n-Pull aka U wrench it always has explorers out there. What are you looking for?

chris have you ever been to johsons mustang and truck parts theres probably close to a hundred explorers out there about 60 % are second generation.
pete

I'm looking for 4x4 parts.

Pete where is that at?

Had a great time today... Was nice getting into a bunch of mud instead of my usual dry mountain trail. Got to really put the ProComp m/ts to work, I'm impressed to say the least. Special thanks to Chris for pelting the INSIDE of my drivers door with mud.. Lesson learned: Keep all doors and windows closed at all times!! :cool: Some teaser pics below... fullsize pics here (http://community.webshots.com/album/547767599FNzqdp/0) Got a couple videos I'll get up before too long

Ha Ha lots of fun. I just spent 20$ sparying my truck off at the car wash.

Carnage:

Me-bent driver side fender from rubbing and broken collector on exhaust
DominicanX-Trashed front bumper in the swamp ass pit
Foggman-I dont think his warn manuals were too happy

We had a great time and got VERY muddy

Oh and I got mud inside his door by flinging it over his truck and it came down on his open drivers side door

I probably shoulda gone to the car wash this evening but I've got 20 bucks worth of ones for after work tommorrow. Hope I don't need it since I didn't get half as muddy as ya'll did.

oh yeah, my carnage: one front liscense plate bracket.
drove all the way back to suffolk with no front plate and a rear plate completely covered in mud... oopps! haha

Chris, your email workin? I just sent you like 30 mb of pictures but I got a return to sender from the "postmaster"

I got 1 email but no pics. Try sending them in 2 peices. mountyon35s at hotmail dot com

damn i wish i could have been there with yall
pete

Next time for sure...right pete
Just messin with ya.

yeah im still in high school and i work part time at bass pro so usually i work saturdays and sundays, but sometimes i get sundays off. but anyways i just found a really sweet spot in poqouson but its illeagal if anyone is still interested ill go out there with you.
pete

i just found a really sweet spot in poqouson but its illeagal if anyone is still interested ill go out there with you.
pete
Last time I went up there I got a 250 dallor suspended fine and 1 year probation :(

are you talkin about the old ball field with the swing set and slide still there. yeah i know its illeagal to go back there i was just seein if anyone was willing to risk it
pete

So I just spent around $18 at the carwash... around $12 with the pressure wand and $6.50 for the drive thru deluxe wash. Just need to clean inside.. I somehow got mud inside the pass. door though it was never open. Oh yeah... I think I should invest in some catch-all floor mats too

are you talkin about the old ball field with the swing set and slide still there. yeah i know its illeagal to go back there i was just seein if anyone was willing to risk it
pete

Yeah I'm not into the illegal wheelin.

So I just spent around $18 at the carwash... around $12 with the pressure wand and $6.50 for the drive thru deluxe wash. Just need to clean inside.. I somehow got mud inside the pass. door though it was never open. Oh yeah... I think I should invest in some catch-all floor mats too
Boy somebody needs to invest in a preasure washer :p

Boy somebody needs to invest in a preasure washer :p
It's worth the 18$ when you dont have to clean up the mess. I used 15$ and you can see my truck was covered.

i'm new to the site, but i'm always up for trip in the woods. unfortunately i haven't played with my explorer enough yet. it needs a lift, which hopefully will happen soon. i live in charlottesville, but i'm willing to drive anywhere in VA to meet up and play. you can email at martinnorman86@hotmail.com or AIM at yeeehaw86. peace

chris
you still wantin to come to uwharrie. i dont want all the campsites to fill up so we should reserve some soon
pete

I used my pressure washer to clean my truck off....then a flat shovel to shovel the drive way....I hate clean up! :fire:

Chris did you get those pictures this time? if not I put them on my web page too

I used my pressure washer to clean my truck off....then a flat shovel to shovel the drive way....I hate clean up! :fire:

Chris did you get those pictures this time? if not I put them on my web page too

Yeah man I got them, I haven't had time to upload them on EF since I have to download and shrink each on individualy.


Pete, I am still up in the air, My plan is to be 4x4 by then but if not, it really wouldn't be interesting to me.

There is an open weekend in Crozet, the first weekend of March. I have not been there so I don't know what to expect. There is a new thread by Blee.

I want to go but I will be on travel.

I may be interested in going...

Videos Up... clicky clicky (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=serious+explorations+whitley&so=0)

haha thats awesome

yeah... and I had to pull the "big boys" out of that ditch :D

hahaha, rub it in why don't ya!

Does anyone know of any trails around the Hampton roads area? Something other than mud? just lookin for a change of pace..

Yeah I'm starting to get tired of mud too. I got onboard air going in next week. 5 gal tank with 90% duty cycle firestone pump :)

Yeah I'm starting to get tired of mud too. I got onboard air going in next week. 5 gal tank with 90% duty cycle firestone pump :)


NICE! :thumbsup:
Mark and I trading springs in May...I cant wait! Goin up to 6" and 33" mt's

Hey, we should try to plan a GWNF weekend or somethin. I have a couple friends that transfer out this summer so we were think some time in May. I dont know alot about that area so any input would be cool. ANy takers?

Oh yeah Chris, I installed that CB today..ended up mounting it on the passenger side of the trans tunnel angled toward the drivers seat. Doesn't look too bad

I could go for some good trails... Mud's fun for a little bit, cleaning can get kinda old. I had been thinking about OBA.. but then this whole 6" lift and 33's thing popped up so that project is on hold.

Outer Banks gets old quick. There is only so much you can do in sand and you cant even play on the dunes. I think June or may is the 10th Anniversary run in Grozet. I am planning on that. Unclmeat knows the GW woods. I want to get an Aussie locker around the end of March for the front and maybe a winch if the boss will let me. I might even have my supercharger on by then.

yeah i might be headin down to the outerbanks this weekend but like josh said its only fun for a little while.
pete

Fellas,

I have some extended stainless steel brake lines and a two shock steering stabilizer that I bought for my 93 but never put on it since i blew out the third tranny. Anyone interested just let me know.

Fellas,

I have some extended stainless steel brake lines and a two shock steering stabilizer that I bought for my 93 but never put on it since i blew out the third tranny. Anyone interested just let me know.

Didn't you say you knew who owned the property right off Dam Neck road near the farmers market?

yeah chris did you ever find out if we could get permission to wheel there

Didn't you say you knew who owned the property right off Dam Neck road near the farmers market?
I don't know them, a guy i used to offroad with did. But I don't have that guys number anymore. Sorry

Any of you guys around hampton roads area know a good place to get a rear bumper/tire carrier built?

Have you looked at the built by pottsy he is in Ohio, "bbpfab.com" . There an active thread. I check the web site and saw a bunch of stuff I want. Not sure about the prices. But it is always nice when someone else is the guinea pig.

Yeah, I sent Pottsy a message with a link to Brian1's bumper and explained what I wanted. He said he couldn't do it unless he had my rig at his shop. Sooo... I'm not too keen on a 9 hour trip to Ohio. Too bad cause I really like what I've seen of his work. I'm gonna look around local or see if someone on here is up to the challange. If not then I'll see if I can find one for like an XJ or 4Runner and modify the mounts.

anyone want to hit up dam neck on sunday my brother is coming home and we're looking to find some mud
pete

I might make it out...I drove by there yesterday and it looked pretty dry. But I will probably be there, just give me a time

yeah i went out there on sunday it was really dry but it seems like a really fun place when its wet

off of damneck rd is an awesome place when it's good and wet. the last time that i went i had my x coated top to bottom, front to back

Same here, I like that place too. It's dry as S**T right now though...I was hoping we'd get a good rain this weekend. I did my SOA last week and I really wanted to get out and give it a go! I guess I'll just have to wait.....

well we got a nice little rain today boys... bring on the mud but itll have to wait till after i get back from uwharrie its gonna be awesome down there.

Whats goin burke va here gotta 04 explorer. ide like to meet a few explorer folks and go 4 wheelin or what not.

welcome to the site buddy this thread is goin kinda slow right now but pretty soon we might go find some mud or something. if you click on your private messages there will be a option to list subscriptions this keeps track of all the threads youve been active on so you can check up on this one to see what we are all up to.
pete

Yes Welcome. I never thought when I started this thread that it would get so big. We need to get a run going somewhere or is there already besides the run to grozet for the 10th anniversery? good camping weather is upon us. :D

josh you should have come down to uwharrie last weekend it was a good time check out the return from uwharrie thread under offroad plans and discussion
pete

When I go down there it will be with a winch and a front locker. I realy want to hit the trails but my truck has been throughing fits and I just got it back to almost normal again so I need a little road time before I trust her again.

Well I finaly made the leap and ordered my Aussie locker for the front. :D :D Maybe it will go out today, though not likely, and I can think about the install this weekend. :confused:

GOOD DEAL yeah im gonna get an aussie for the rear i might be able to get it at a discount but thats awesome do you have an aussie in the rear?
pete

No got the 3.73LS. I plan to rebuild that and add an extra friction plate in each side to make it tighter. Also working on getting a superwinch X9 9000lb winch. Don't know when I'll be able to put it on though if I even get it. Might install the locker this weekend.

good deal my brother just bought a 9000 lb t max winch... we got to test it out in uwharrie

Hey everyone, I am finally just getting interested into offroading. I drive a 2001 explorer and reside in Midlothian (southside of Richmond). Hopefully I can meet up with some people and go four wheeling and get help on working on my explorer. I have only seen two possible members in Midlothian but hopefully there are more in this area :)

Hey all just getting mine back on the road again , needs a few more things like ball joints ecs. but would love to go wheeling soon. just to rip sh@t up you know

New here, would love to meet up and get dirty....www.putfile.com/explrths

New here, would love to meet up and get dirty....www.putfile.com/explrths


Hey man, Remember when you brought your truck to ETA with a nail in your tire? I was the one that worked on it. There is a few of us locals that like to wheel. Right now I am swapping to 4wd and getting the front rcd coilover kit so I will be down for a little bit but will be back in action soon enough.

well im up in the NOVA area as well and havent wheeled inawhile i nee to get back out there, if anyone whats to do some local wheeling i know where a few spots are and im more than happy to help work on other peoples trucks

Well got my locker installed. I hope I did it right. :confused: It would be nice if we had some property we could play on. My winch will be here tomorrow I think and I am having a cable made to replace the old one. I need to pick up a front receiver so I can mount the winch. I also need the mounting plate for the winch. Anybody know where I can get those for a good price? Portsmouth trailer wants 145 for the receiver! I've seen them online for 109.

Well got my locker installed. I hope I did it right. :confused: It would be nice if we had some property we could play on. My winch will be here tomorrow I think and I am having a cable made to replace the old one. I need to pick up a front receiver so I can mount the winch. I also need the mounting plate for the winch. Anybody know where I can get those for a good price? Portsmouth trailer wants 145 for the receiver! I've seen them online for 109.

Sweet, I just got my Explorer back from getting aligned & tires mounted. I didn't know they still made front recievers for ours. Where have you found them online? I've been looking for one.

Here is the site I found.

Front receiver (http://www.hitchesonline.com/ford_front_end.htm)

Here is a link to a sight that has both the receiver and the monut.

Front winch mount (http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Action=ADPR&Product_Code=65017&Attributes=Yes&Quantity=1)

you should call around and see if eta or pungo has them but it will probably be just as cheap to order them off that site

To me ETA is a rip off mail order showroom. They do the same thing you would do on the internet. I would love to have someone say yea we have that in stock, but not here. As for Pungo, They gave me a good price on my lift but, when I ordered it(4 in Superlift), I got 4 in the rear and 5.5 in the front. :confused: Portsmouth trailer wanted 145 just for the receiver and they had to order it of course. The second link I posted wanted 109 and they were offering 99 cent shipping on 150 or more purchases. So I could order the receiver and the mount for about 180 Ithink.

So who is doing the 10th Ann run in Crozet and where are you coming from? Just thought that we could meet up and head out together. I was thinking about camping out there some where and I want to wheel both days Maybe head up Friday afternoon or something. Some people have talked about a camp ground not to far away. The link is below. I guess there is camping onsite as well.

Misty Mountain campground (http://www.mistymountaincampground.com/rates.html)

My fiancee and I are going and camping... don't know where yet. Hopefully we'll be able to get out Friday night and stay until Sunday.
We were planning to camp at the on-site Farm Field since we ASS-U-MEd that everyone else that was camping would be there.

...and that's all I have to say about that!

I'm camping at Misty Mountain. I've spoken with people who have wheeled at Crozet for the VROC (Va Rockcrawling & offroad championship) and they all praised Misty Mountain. The on-site at Crozet is very primitive vs Misty Mountain which isn't very far about 6-7 miles. I'm gonna be there Friday since I'm gonna meet Chris the day prior to make sure everything is ready not to mention to drink :D

Misty mountain sounds cool. I may just sleep in my truck like I did last time we went wheelin unless the wife comes.

Ok, so I am alittle new to the sight. Kinda surprised about all the people around me with X's. I need to meet up with you guys and learn a few things, get alittle muddy, and do alittle trail riding. www.putfile.com/explrths

Where was that mud hole video at? looks like the one over on Millitary HWY by a Boston Market I think? Oh yea and welcome. I think I have seen your truck before. There are a ton of lifted/modded X's around here.

That hole was out in Hapton nnext to Super K. It has been fenced up since that vid.I think Damn Neck is still open. I have to check with my bro-in-law. Anywhere local to get a little dirty

I bought my Explorer today!! :D I'm in Richmond

Any good mud holes up in Rich?

Dont forget about the 10th Ann run in Crozet next month. you guys should go.

What are teh dates for it?

What are teh dates for it?

When: June 24th & 25, 2006
Where: Crozet, VA
Cost: $25 (1) Day Pass (No Passenger Fees)
$40 (2) Day Pass (No Passenger Fees)

The link to the sign up is below

Crozet run (http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143129)

I might just be there!

Well unless something comes up, I was thinking about heading up Friday afternoon so I don't have to make that long ass drive in the morning.

Well i talked to Greg from Hi-centrd(my bro in law) he said damn neck is still wide open, anyone wanna meet up this week end and have some fun?

Well i talked to Greg from Hi-centrd(my bro in law) he said damn neck is still wide open, anyone wanna meet up this week end and have some fun?

We do not condone illegal wheeling.. Please do not post any information regarding illegal wheeling opportunities.

Ummm...since when is me having premission illegal? Not trying to be an a@#, just asking

Ummm...since when is me having premission illegal? Not trying to be an a@#, just asking

I thought you were referring to another place you mentioned in another previous post. Sorry about that. If you have permission than of course there is no issue.

Its ok, Damn neck road is city owned, Hi-centrd off road has recieved permission to be there, luckly, their VP is related to me(bro-in-law). If I may ask, what was the other post? I do not want to be sending the wrong info out.

Well i talked to Greg from Hi-centrd(my bro in law) he said damn neck is still wide open, anyone wanna meet up this week end and have some fun?
Are you going to Crozet? If so you should get signed up on the the Crozet thread. Anybody else goig?

I am hoping too...a few things around the house need to be done. LIke my fence.

Its ok, Damn neck road is city owned, Hi-centrd off road has recieved permission to be there, luckly, their VP is related to me(bro-in-law). If I may ask, what was the other post? I do not want to be sending the wrong info out.

Who from the city gave permission to go out there? Who will be the point of contact if VBPD decides to start writing tickets? I have been busted in he past and I cant have that kind of stuff popping up during a background investigation which my job requires. Thats why I havent gone out there. Ive tried the he said she said and I got 1 year probation and 250.00 suspended the first time. Second time got thown out, but the judge said if he ever saw me again, I was going to jail.

I will get all the details for you. There is also a place in suffolk called turkey shoot. More fun then anything. good for 2 wheel and 4 wheel

Who owns the Suffolk spot?

A while back DGibson mentioned a spot in Suffolk.. wonder if its the same place. I live here and don't know of anyplace.

Its public land. But as you go back a few trails wander off to business land. We ussauly try to stay out of that stuff, but the owners are pretty cool as long as we dont tear it up. Ill talk to Hi-centrd and find out more of the legal stuff there also

Ok, i havent forgotten about you guys. Greg is looking for the letter for Damn Neck. AS far as Suffolk, it is owned by the people who own Cosmos on the corner of Portsmouth and Jollif. I cant find anyone who has written permission, but from what I have heard from a few cops I now out there, as long as we dont trash the place and stay off the private land (Its POsted) Nobady has ever comlained

And the finished product. :D Time to give baby a bath :rolleyes: Now I just need to find someone to help me weld my brushguard to my front receiver frame and I'm good.

What part of the beach? I know some one that would probably help with the welding.

By the way...NICE

Thanks. I live over buy the VA Beach courthouse. I think for what I have in mind would only take an hour. The brushguard brackets are the same width as the front receiver. So I thought to just cut them off and weld a plate to the outer side of the brushguard on one end then weld the other end to the outer edge of the receiver frame. Or just weld the back edge of the brushguard to the front edge of the receiver. Hell I don't even need to weld it I guess. I could just cut the mounts off of the brushguard and use 4 bolts and a plate on each side and just bolt it on.

Does anybody know of any trials in Richmond,Va, if so could you give me directions and PM me, Thanks for any help, i live in western henrico

Does anybody know of any trials in Richmond,Va, if so could you give me directions and PM me, Thanks for any help, i live in western henrico
Tenikiwon and unclemeat live in the Richmond area but I don't think they do a lot local. I'm sure they will chime in.

Ok well let me know

Ok well let me know
I'm trying to find a place around here to get some metal plate. I would think 1/4 would be enough.

There is not much for legal trails in Richmond. You may want to contact the river city runners (I think that is their name). I can post the web address when I am in the office. I have been meaning to drop in on them. The meet in glen allen one a month. They are all jeepers I think.

Well I think I'm done for now. Finaly got everything working I hope.

Looks good.....wanna get it dirty?

Hey guys im in Southen Wv and im always ready to go muddin

Does anyone know if anybody in the Hampton Roads area stocks Warrior Shackles or should I just go ahead order them?

i dont think anyone sells them around here. call up desert rat thats where i got mine from.

I called around to a few places nobody stocks them locally. I ended up ordering them from Tellico4X4 for 55 and some change.

Checking in from NOVA here

Hey all, Hi centrd is making a run to NC in two weeks, we are inviting whoever wants to go.

Are you talking OBX? I am going in two weeks.

Are you talking OBX? I am going in two weeks.


I think they all want to go around Duck, coralla (SP) i think.

We are going to be in South Nags Head, posibbly a run down to Cape Hatteres.

I called around to a few places nobody stocks them locally. I ended up ordering them from Tellico4X4 for 55 and some change.
I bought a set from Pep Boys(Hot Rod shackles) for 17 bucks and crossed braced them with some 1 inch square tube and a bolt through the center. They have been on for about 4 years now. :D

anybody up for a run to GWNF anytime soon?

Not I. My tranny is making wierd metalic noises and shudders in reverse from time to time. I think mine is going in for a major tear down. I am going to rebuild my tranny, try to replace the rear main seal on the motor and have been kicking around the idea of a SAS. When I webt to Crozet, I bent 2 out 4 drop brackets in the front. :(

crozet is harsh man. i tried to drive their "stock" trails, and that didn't work so well. i stopped at the first go-around because i had destroyed both of my side bars, and put some large dents in the gas tank. next time i go back, i'll hopefully have a solid front axle :D hahaha...i wish.

crozet is harsh man. i tried to drive their "stock" trails, and that didn't work so well. i stopped at the first go-around because i had destroyed both of my side bars, and put some large dents in the gas tank. next time i go back, i'll hopefully have a solid front axle :D hahaha...i wish.

trying to remember which truck was yours.. I saw so many there I can't remember.

There were only around 10 :p 2 after lunch. LOL

okay i bought a 2000 x to drive every day and possibly do a lil playing around. I have a set of bfg a/t going to be regular size 16''. I would like to maybe meet up w/ you all around sometime this fall possibly a trip down to the outer banks for some sand riding. How much trouble will i be in w/ this truck!!! :)

Bobby Crawley is talking about a September trip with his club, near Alta Vista. That might be my next trip.

Just air down to maybe 15 or 20 PSI and you should not have a problem. Most of the time you can make it in 2WD, hell I've seen cars down there cruising up the beach. Driving on the sand is kinda no fun after the first trip unless you are going down to enjoy the beach as well.

just checkin in from chantilly NOVA up for almost ne thing GWNF?

i'm in. just let me know what day. i think next weekend would be the earliest I could go. I might be able to bring some other people too. let me know if you're interested.

trying to remember which truck was yours.. I saw so many there I can't remember.



I didn't go to the run. I live about 3 minutes from the park, and checked it out ahead of time. I had to work the weekend of the meet. my truck would have been the completely stock one parked near the trail. lol. I think i'm gonna take it back, but i'm in the process of building a full length skidplate, and i'm not running over that many rocks until i build it.

I would have to be SAS before I go back. My truck did pretty good, but its scary when you know you have a 3 hour drive home. When we left, my steering wheel had been repossitioned 4 inches to the left due to some bent parts.

change of plans. i am now going to TX this weekend, so i will not be able to go to GWNF. If anyone wants to go the next weekend, i believe I'm good to go.

p.s. Andy-where the hell are you?

ok all, its muddy and messy, ready to go!!!!! Where?

Things are almost a little to messy here.

I see. I had to pick up my father in law last night for dinner off of Rosemont. The water was still at the bottom of my door in places. He kinda freaked out over that..

Yeah I tried to cut through South Plaza Trl yest afternoon. I was good for a little bit then it got REAL deep. I deff covered my 35's thats when I got off and took a different route. I got a little scared.

Today would be a good day to go muddin.

Yeah I tried to cut through South Plaza Trl yest afternoon. I was good for a little bit then it got REAL deep. I deff covered my 35's thats when I got off and took a different route. I got a little scared.

Today would be a good day to go muddin.
Dam and as tall as your truck is, it must have been deep. :eek: My door locks were spazzing out after a couple of water crossings. I took my Jetta last night because I thought the water would be gone. WRONG. I was going down Landstown Rd and it was competely covered for about 400 feet and the water was moving at a good clip. My heart was thumping for a bit.

Hey, i am new to off roading i have found some small things to hit around my house but now i want to find some real places to go off roading. I live in Fairfax. Are there any places around me that i can go like leesburg or omewhere like that. thanks

Taskers gap around Edenberg in the national forest. So I am told there is also a trail in Madison Co. that is suppose to be pretty tough, but I have not run it.

Well, i got to play in the mud.....I dug up my in laws back yard. Not what i had in mind, but it was fun. I am going to Hampton tom. maybe I can find something out there?!?

it's times like these last couple of days that i REALLY REALLY wish i still had the explorer. there were cars all over the place stuck in this high water. i could have made a buckor two pulling them out.

anyone up for a get together anytime soon?

anyone up for a get together anytime soon?
umm... YES!

Im ready. Didnt I see something from Bobby Crawley about a run this month?

anyone up for a get together anytime soon?

I left the Old Dominion to take a job in Indiana... worse decision I've made in a long time. Where in C'ville do you live?

off of polo grounds rd. in Bentivar. did you go to school here?

September 23rd we are slinging some dirt in Long Island virginia (around Altavista). $5 per driver and $5 bucks per person for your meal. make what youy want it to be. watch or join in, most trails have by-passes. any make or model welcome even ATVs. if you are interrested in need to know for a head count. there is also a place to camp no water or eletric but there is a port-a-john. cheapest day of fun you ever had.

I'm interested for sure. driver, and possibly 1-2 passengers. how far is long island from charlottesville?

off of polo grounds rd. in Bentivar. did you go to school here?

Ha! we were pratically neighbors... I grew up in Hollymeade then Forest Lakes

Went to Holly Meade/Sutherland/Albemarle/Virginia Tech

and now i'm in friggin' Indiana...

Long Island is about 1 1/2 hours south straight down 29s until you get to Altavista 12 miles east and your ready to go.

I'm traveling from Richmond and will be camping Friday and Saturday night unless the weather is going to really be bad.

I might have to leave early on friday but my co-worker will be making the voyage after 5:00p. So if anyone wants to caravan. Also, don't use Mapquest for directions from Richmond. It will route you through Charlotesville and take 3hr 30mins. Best route is 460 or 360 to 24 to 29S. takes about 2hrs 20mins from richmond.

I will meet up with you wherever your route joins onto 29, and caravan from there. I may even bring food! :D

change of plans. I will leave sat morning. If there is anyone in the charlottesville/albemarle area that would like to come but not drive, they are more than welcome to ride with me and watch me abuse my ride. what time is this thing going to start sat morning? Also, I've got a buddy that's not on this site that is thinking of coming, but is kind of worried about the terrain. what kind of trails are we looking at here? he has a bone stock grand cherokee. getting it stuck isn't a problem, but breaking stuff is. :rolleyes: let me know if there is going to be rocky trails and whatnot, or just a bunch of mud please. thanks

I could take a bone stock any thing 4x4 and watch at 95% of the places. the trails are semi smooth between holes and the hills. most all of the rough stuff has a bi-pass. you can make it what you want it to be. we will steer him the best way so he will enjoy his trip.

What time is this thing going to start sat morning?


We normally hit the trails by 1:00p. I would try and be there by noon. I don't remember what cell phone service is like but I'd be willing to meet up with people in Altavista (HWY 29) Saturday morning early.

920-279-6644

sounds great. Andy, if you are up for meeting sat morning, just let me know when and where and I'll be there. Are you driving down sat morning, or fri night?

Ha! we were pratically neighbors... I grew up in Hollymeade then Forest Lakes

Went to Holly Meade/Sutherland/Albemarle/Virginia Tech

and now i'm in friggin' Indiana...



I went to Sutherland and Albemarle. what year did you graduate from Tech?

cell service is very spotty, some servers have 0 service there. write this down just in case you get that far and can not get up with anyone, main street altavista (29 business) from the north take first altavista exit left turn at top of ramp when you see fellers chevrolet make a left onto Pittsylvania ave. from the south take 1st altavista exit, top of ramp make a right, 2 miles you'll come to a tee (@ mc donalds) make a left onto main st (29 business) just past the car wash left onto Pittsylvania ave. once your on pitts. ave go 4-5 miles make a left (there will be a long sweeping right turn grave yard to the right next left) onto level run road, ago 4-5 miles there will be two churches after you pass the second church you will make the next left (1/2 mile past second church) moons rd. 2-3 miles you will see yellow poles with a cable strung threw them to your left you have made it. note there is normally a cable across the entrance to the field if you are planning to come early you will need to get up with someone for a key to the gate. do not hit any trails without a guide (there are places that look easier than they are). we will have a meeting to make sure everyone knows the rules, members and nonmembers alike. we want to make sure that everyone the comes to join us have a great time, recieves what that come to get, and will leave with the intension to return and join us again. P.S. we will eat first and then hit the trails. fresh fried chicken and fixins, burgers, and dogs will be served only $5 per person all you can eat or until its gone witch ever comes first. $5 for all drivers, ride and watch for free.

Bobby,

looks like i will most likely see you there. i will be bringing two mostly stock vehicles (99 explorer and 02 ranger) that are daily drivers. we may end up being one of the "watching" through some of the areas.

Stacey Burcin

look forward to seeing you there.

Bobby if i was comming from say Brookneal what state route would I be looking for? Or What route # is the place on?

Had a great time, THANKS again to the Central Four Wheel Drive Association and Bobby. Got home safe only to find that I can't get the T-case out of neutral. Looks like it's swap time and then T-case gears!?!

I only took a few pictures and about 15mins of video. Will try and post the pictures on Monday, videos later.

If anyone needs pictures posted let me know and I can setup webspace or you can e-mail 'em to me. tenikiwon@explorerforum.com

lets see some pictures, like normal I didn't take any.

Will be here --> http://andy.nowickinetworks.com/images/view_pics.php?referer=Pictures/offroad/trips/060923
I got Scotts but he must have taken them with the hubble telescope so I need to resize them.

Okay, I have all of Scott's pics up and resized. I worked 12hrs today so that's it for now.

I finally got a minute to post some pics. Thanks again to Bobby Crawley and the Central Va. 4-Wheel Drive Association. :thumbsup:

Nice pics. Did any of you VA Beach guys happen to see the trail off Dam neck road near the Ampetheater? Its been leveled.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...so when are we going Josh? Its been awhile since ive gone out

My truck is in need of a tranny rebuild and I have a short in my harness. I blew one of the big 60 amp fuses in the engine compartment the other day over by TCC. It killed the entire ignician system. I used a jumper wire and trid to restart my truck to get it home and smoke came out of the engine compartment :eek: I wiggled the wires around and was able to get it home. SOOO, I have a nasty short in it. I need to go over to U-pull-it and get another tranny to rebuild.

Damn, sorry to hear. Need any help just let me know. I have been tossing around an SAS thought, but it will be awhile.

Damn, sorry to hear. Need any help just let me know. I have been tossing around an SAS thought, but it will be awhile.

Im going solid probibly this winter. I get a daily driver this week :D. First time out with true 4wd and I snapped an inner tie rod.

Recently I have beening going to a place called Hope Haven to play. Its kinda by North Landing. Its not posted or anything but there isn't TOO much to do like damneck.

Is that over by Victoria Park, that new housing dev. by Vo-tech. I went back in the sand pit there

Alright you hooligans stay out of my backyard! :p: I have seen a fullsize bronco up to its doors back there when they first put it in. My neighborhood is on the other side of the trees(Courthouse Woods). Still wondering what they are building.

I too am thinking about solid axle as the TTB is worthless on the rocks. We can get an entire front axle front U-pull-it for probably 150. They quoted me 124 for a rear 8.8 with discs and brake hardware included. I just need someone to weld. My best friend is a boilermaker but he lives in Washington state. :mad: I would be willing to help someone in return for a little help with mine. We could have an SAS marothon weekend. I will most likely use a dana 30 unless I can find a 44 the same width as our trucks. The one thing that sucks is I will have to get another locker, unless someone knows of a dana 35 solid front which I dont think they made.

I know a few welders, most of which live in NN. My b-in-law welds, but he is in the middle of moving, travis does also, i might be able to talk him into it. He just built the hell out of an older s-10

Im going solid probibly this winter. I get a daily driver this week :D. First time out with true 4wd and I snapped an inner tie rod.

Recently I have beening going to a place called Hope Haven to play. Its kinda by North Landing. Its not posted or anything but there isn't TOO much to do like damneck.
i get dibs on the RCD kit when you do, lol, i have the itch to go wheelin again. i need to get out

I'm up for doing a sas marathon. I don't have the know how to do it all. I'm mechanically inclined, just don't have the experience. If you've got a welder, I'm definitely in.

we should all go wheel at that place chris is talking about soon. is that all we have left thats legal around here?

it will be a long time before i can go solid axle. but im saving for a body lift, 33's, gears, bumpers, and sliders hopefully to be done by next spring.

we should all go wheel at that place chris is talking about soon. is that all we have left thats legal around here?

it will be a long time before i can go solid axle. but im saving for a body lift, 33's, gears, bumpers, and sliders hopefully to be done by next spring.
I would get an Aussie locker first. That has been the best wheelin mod I have ever done. My truck sucked with open front and rear. I added an LS a while ago and last may I threw in an Aussie locker. I still have an Xterra supercharger sitting in my garage but I know if I put it on my tranny will grenade :(

Yeah its across the road from Vo-tech. Down the hope haven rd. about 1/4 mile on the left. I might be going out there monday afternoon but I'll let you guys know for sure. It will be gooey.

I'm im working on getting a welder now and saving for a plasma cutter. I could then whore my self out to make all of our trucks solid.

Yeah its across the road from Vo-tech. Down the hope haven rd. about 1/4 mile on the left. I might be going out there monday afternoon but I'll let you guys know for sure. It will be gooey.

I'm im working on getting a welder now and saving for a plasma cutter. I could then whore my self out to make all of our trucks solid.



That would be swell :D
you still up for helping me go soa?

yeah im going to throw an aussie in the rear when i get my gears installed. ive got football practice every day after school but i would like to go out there during the weekend if anyone else is interested

Im am def in for monday, hopefully im not in suffolk all day. Chris, you still at bestbuy?

Im am def in for monday, hopefully im not in suffolk all day. Chris, you still at bestbuy?

Actually I never made it to best buy, long story. I am going to make some inner fenderwells tomorrow and if they get in im going out tomorrow afternoon

Chris, if you head out there tomarrow let me know, I'll join ya


I still have an Xterra supercharger sitting in my garage but I know if I put it on my tranny will grenade :(

Are you tryin to get rid of it so it doesn't taunt you ;) I'd gladly take it off your hands :thumbsup:

Are you tryin to get rid of it so it doesn't taunt you ;) I'd gladly take it off your hands :thumbsup:

Was thinking about it but not sure. I have a brand new SC, vacum/boost gauge, FMU, and some homemade plates that need finishing. I also have photo copies from a finishe system that are fullsize so I can't imagine it would take much to finish. I just don't know if I'm ready to part with it.

Let me know if you decide to get rid of it, I'm sure we can work something out

Well if it isnt too late let me know if you go chris.......

I HAVE LOOKED ALL DAY LONG AND STILL HAVENT FIGURED OUT WHAT TO USE FOR FENDERWELLS!!!!!

I have to babysit till about 6 and then I think I'm going out there, you game? I'll check this thread before I go.

yup give me a call........2885073, its not the utility access is it?

I am not sure. Its 2 different trails through the bean fields to the back, where it gets DEEP.

I'm in

Ok who wants to go tonight? I'll be out there in about 20.

Well last night was fun, how about 2:00 tomorrow at the same place?

who went, you need to get the B.V. boys together one weekend and we will plan a ride here in Long Island va, you can camp and we'll round up a group and hit a few hills and cross a few holes do alittle laughing and encouraging. I just need a little time to work out the kinks in my front end.

Chris some of us work during the day:D..if i go it wont be until after 4

same here Chris...maybe even closer to 5 for me

i cant go because im already goin wheeling on the penninsula but id like to go out there this weekend if anyone else is up for it. im not exactly sure where this place is, isnt vo-tech by home depot kinda?

who went, you need to get the B.V. boys together one weekend and we will plan a ride here in Long Island va, you can camp and we'll round up a group and hit a few hills and cross a few holes do alittle laughing and encouraging. I just need a little time to work out the kinks in my front end.


I'm game, lets start thowing out dates. I'm still working out my t-case kinks also.

I'm good up until Mid/end of Nov. then I am out of town till the first of the year. BTW, where is Long Island, VA?

Im up for whenever( as long as the wife says ok) as long as your providing parts. By the way, how much will this camber adjusters push out the tires? Will it be worth the trouble?

Im up for whenever( as long as the wife says ok) as long as your providing parts. By the way, how much will this camber adjusters push out the tires? Will it be worth the trouble?

It will give about 1/2" more adjustment out.

Anyone want to go out and play today? I work at 5 but I want to make some videos.

cant today, maybe tomorrow. let me see what payday looks lke ill try to get those from you this weekend

long island is outside of Altavista (altavista is between lynchburg and danville on highway 29).

Long Island rocks! A great place to wheel for beginner to expert.

welp, looks like it might longer then i thought to get back out. i am having steering issues

Whats wrong with your steering?

I took the hope haven trails all the way to the back. There are 3 more spots after the first hump.

Chris, interested in going out there tonight?

Ok who is in on a sunday afternoon run? Where do you guys want to go??

I'm in, I don't care where...just some place local in HR

im in

if we go to that spot you guys keep talking about i'll need to meet and follow someone there or get good directions. im not fimiliar with that area.

Ok how about 4:00-5:00 sunday afternoon? I'll be back in town by then. We can all meet at my place depending on how many people. Post if your in.

Pete I'll pm you my addy

got the message i'll meet you at your house around 4 , right now due to lack of bill payment verizon made it so i can only get incoming calls i cant send any so if your gonna be late or you cant make it my number is 635 7504, i wont be able to call you.

who else is coming?

Well due to me getting a car while I'm at my parents (Fredericksburg). I have to push the time back to 6:00. I will be leaving here by 2:00 and hope traffic isn't bad. Its usually a 2-2.5 hour trip just as long as everything goes well.

alright ill be there at 6

Pete for any reason I get in town early I will call you.

ok, is it just you and me goin chris?

Me pete and a buddy of mine dave with a Jeep wagonner on 42s were out at hope haven tonight, even pete made it though most of it.

Pete man that other trail we went to past battlefield blvd on kempsville was crazy. You HAVE to have 35s at least to get through there. I got stuck on my way in, I didn't have a tire on the ground. Everything else was big ruts and hills. Locker in the front almost neccisary as I almost got stuck about 4 times.

yeah hope haven was fun i wish i had a bigger truck to go back there. i'll have to ride next time you go to battlefield im not taking my truck if its that bad.

yeah hope haven was fun i wish i had a bigger truck to go back there. i'll have to ride next time you go to battlefield im not taking my truck if its that bad.

I don't think I'll go to the battlefield till I'm soild on 37s at least. The wagoneer was on 42s and he was draggin diffs in spots, the same spots I had to go through :(

when are you gettin started on that? are you using a dana 44, what are your plans?

this place you guy's are talking about would it be worth riding from altavista va for, I have a little 88 ranger that likes to climb slick hills. are there any hills. I may try a mud hole or two as long as I'm not up in the engine compartment. also is this place legal.

I don't think there are any places in this area that are legal or have given permission to people to use. All places around here are iffy at best. I used to ride at this one place over in Portsmouth for years, hell the cops used to sit out there and watch us ride. Then one day they just start handing out tickets.

Well. i havent been on in a few days, but the steering issue is this: It turns good till about half way, then it feels kinda stuck, then turns the rest of the way. It is the same back to center, and tonight it even felt alittle sticky, like the power was going out. And, im starting to get a bad wobble again. The only thing I havent changed would be the driver side inner-outer tierods. Would this cause this issue?


As far as the portsmouth spot, you talking about Jolliff road across from Cosmos, hicentrd used to go out there alot.

Well. i havent been on in a few days, but the steering issue is this: It turns good till about half way, then it feels kinda stuck, then turns the rest of the way. It is the same back to center, and tonight it even felt alittle sticky, like the power was going out. And, im starting to get a bad wobble again. The only thing I havent changed would be the driver side inner-outer tierods. Would this cause this issue?


Check your steering extension for the body lift. They can become loose and give those symptoms.

Great, im going to be on the high rise, coming home, and the extension going to fly off, im going to be the first person ever to go from 4x4 x to sub x!!! ill check it in the morning..........you have to work tommorrow?

I work at 5