If any of you guys (or gals) are from Illinois I would reall appreciate it if you could tell me what trails you know of. I want to go for a run, but can't get to far away from school. So.. If you know of any within an hour of Chicago (in any direction), or near Macomb (where I go to school, on the wester side of the state) I would appreciate you telling me where they are and any other details.

Thanks in advance.

Hey Dave,
I know that there are some trials in Peoria, right around the river. I've never checked them out personally, but I do know a guy that goes there, and he says its pretty good. There's also a place just north of Pontiac, thats part of an offroad club. I have been there, but in an old crappy blazer. Its pretty rough on your truck, so beware!!! I'm from Bloomington, So these might be too far away for you, but maybe not!! Happy wheelin!!

I live about 40 miles west of chicago and would like to get togather and try the trails around Peroria. Let me know when you would like to try them.

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COOL!!! Send me an E-mail and tell me what you had in mind!! Finally another explorer around here!

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Play like you mean it!
'92 XLT

Let me know when you want to hit those trails too. Hopefully, I will be able to have some fun with my stock setup.

Dave

I'd like to go also. Anytime on a weekend would work fine for me. Email me or just post it here and we'll get together. Peoria, Macomb, Chicago, It's all plenty close enough for me. I live by Freeport so I'm in the same neck of the woods as you guys.

P.S. The sooner the better

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Kampy

I'm gonna need to do some scouting before we go, just so I konw what we're getting into. Unfortunatley, I just got really stuck this past weekend and blew my auto hubs. Thats going to put off the whole thing for me until I can get new ones. I don't suppose you guys have any manual or auto ones lying around, do you?

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Play like you mean it!
'92 XLT

OK!!!! My hubs are on!! I just ran this trail (kinda small, but challenging) and it performed wonderfully!!! I am planning to go to the one trail by the Illinois river this weekend to check it out. When I get back, I'll make sure and let you know how it was and see who wants to go.

Are you all still interested? I hope so!

scott

Riff, I'm ready to go. I'm busy on the 5th of feb. Have to go check out some fire truck factories in Wisconsin. But any other time should be OK. Pick a date and let me know.

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Kampy

kampy@internetni.com

Riff,

I am still interested let me know what dates that you had in mind. I may also need directions from Macomb. One question though... Do you think that I will have any problems with this trail with a completely stock setup. I want to make sure that I am not going to get stuck to bad. Email me and let me know.

Thanks,

Dave

Riffman,

Where you able to check out those trails by the river? I live 25 miles west of Chicago and would love to get together with fellow Explorer owners for some off roading. Please fill us in and maybe we can orginize a small outing.

Peace http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


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Rock'n 97 Sport 4X4

Its kinda a long story, but I'll make it short....the past two weekends i've been trying to get out there, but blizard like conditions prevented me from getting there. Then i was driving around on the lake bed of lake bloomington here (the water is like 12 feet low now) and there was about 8 inches of snow on the ground. Basically, after driving for a while, i found myself sliding towards the lake, and eventually slightly...er....um.....in it!!!! No one got hurt, and my truck is fine (THANK GOD!!!!) And since this trail is near the Illinois river, i figured that we might want to let the snow get down a little bit....ya know...so we can see exactly what kind of surface we're on....Let me know what you think. And I'll try to get out there as soon as I can.... cool?

later,
scott

Scott,

I'm glad to here that you (and your truck) are okay. Unless I was real familiar with the trail I wouldn't want to try it when there is a lot of snow on the ground. Hopefully in a couple of weeks the weather will warm up a bit. Keep us updated!


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Rock'n 97 Sport 4X4

Well Riff, find out anything yet? Snows all gone up north and its perfect wheeling weather, rain muck and goo. We are all ready and waiting.

If you would like, let me know and I'll tag along when you go scouting.

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Kampy

kampy@internetni.com

All I know is that if I don't go 4 wheeling soon, I'm going to have a conniption fit. This past week, the weather has been awesome in Illinois and I got the Spring Time itch real bad. Let's stop procrastinating and get together already. What do ya say gang? Let's pick a date. What about Saturday March 11th?

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Rock'n 97 Sport 4X4

Hi! I didn't know there's so many of us Illinoians on the list. I'll be happy to join you guys anytime you're ready to hit the trail. If help is needed, let me know. I've moved to Carpentersville about a year and a half ago and don't know any trails around here yet. Someone in the area know anything? Thanks,

Later,


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Andre Hryn
94 Limited
http://www.inter-kiosk.com

Hey guys,

I am going to Virginia this friday, I got a buddy going through OCS in Quantico os I though I would visit during Spring Break. I think that March 12 would be great, but I don't know the trails around here, Riff let me know when you're ready to go.

DAve

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Big Dave
'94 XLT 4x4
modified air box
K&N airfilter
"Take her easy, and if she's easy take her twice.." (The trail I mean..)

Could this be an "Illinois River Run"? I'd be more then willing to jump in and explore. Keep us posted.

Later,


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Andre Hryn
94 Limited
http://www.inter-kiosk.com

Ok, its officail...im a slacker. Sorry its taken me soooooo long to get back on this whole trail thing. But as it stands now, Im gonna run the trail tomorrow (saturday, the 4th) with mine (a sligthtly over stock explorer) and my buddy's (a stock Cherokee). Im gonna take pictures and get them online hopefully by tomorrow night, if not then, then probably by sunday night. I'll post them on my web page, and you all can view them and decide if its worth the drive. If it is, i was thinking that next weekend would be a great time. probably saturday early in the day, then i hear that there is another part of that trail that we could do after lunch or somthing......I'll konw for sure tomorrow evening.

Again...sorry its taken me soo long to get back....hope you are all still interested...

later,
scott

P.S. Do you all have CB's?

Allready then! Let us know how it is. I'm still interested. CB? no problem, got that.

Later,
http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif




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Andre Hryn
94 Limited
http://www.inter-kiosk.com

ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

In case you couldn't already tell, I ran the trails today, and they basically rocked!!! The whole story is that there are actually 2 sites. One is really really short, but is a good warm up for first time offroaders. It also has a little more hill and bump type things than the other one. The stock Cherokee made it through with little trouble. Just one spot, and you'll see that on my web page, as soon as i get it written.

Then, just down the road from that one are trials that pretty much run for a long time along the illinois river. I didn't get to explore all of those, becuase we were starting to loose light. There was a small creek that would have to be passed to go any further than we did, but i didn't feel like getting stuck in the dark. As far as skill level goes, those are mostly ruts, mud, hills, water, sand, trees, blah blah blah. This one was neat, because on all of the deep puddles, there were always ways around them, if you didn't want to risk it. As you will see in some of the pictures (If i can get to a scanner soon), water went all the way through my engine area, and splashed the bottom of my hood. There are some places that I went through that i didn't want the Cherokee, or a stock explorer to go through. I'll try to get the pics online as soon as possible.

basically, if you are like me, and like outdoors, this place is really neat. there is some trash on the trails...beer cans, etc. but it isn't really horrible. Its right next to the river, and there is a psuedo beach, so we could break there for lunch or whatever. The other thing is, is that there are a bunch of trails running off of each other, and going in a bunch of different directioins. so if you felt like exploring, then you can. Overall, it was a fun day, and would be for anyone who just enjoys driving in adverse conditions.

I'll try to get the rest of the stuff online soon. let me know when you all think would be a good time to go. cool?

later,
scott

Cool...the web page w\ the pics is up. Go to
http://members.aol.com/riffman80


Give the pics time to load...there are quite a few of them. Just let me konw when you want to do this, and im there!!!! Rock-a-fonic!!

Later,
scott

Cool! So we should do it although I don't know if this coming Saturday is such a good idea. Might be too close. Hopefully my stock Limited will make it through. I hope to get bigger tires on it by then. Let's do it!

Later,
http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Andre Hryn
94 Limited
http://www.inter-kiosk.com

All right, I'm ready.

My suggestion is everybody tell what days they can make it this month and when everybody has their 2 cents posted we'll go for the day most people can make it.

I can go any sat/sun this month EXCEPT the 19th.

Riff, figure out the directions so we can all meet up somewhere thats easy to find.

If my fingers still work properly we should have six rigs and I might have a guy to come with in his ranger. It should be fun.

I look forward to hearing from everyone.

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Kampy

kampy@internetni.com

Yeah...the more i think about it, the more it seems a little too close. I really don't have much of a social life, because I work second shift, so my calendar is pretty much free for the next few months. Lets see when others want to do it, and put it on our calendars.

Im pretty much free any weekend untill the begining of june.

I have maps, and directions posted online now at:
http://members.aol.com/riffman80/map.html


There is also a link on my page w\ the trail write up.

Hope we can get together soon!!!


Later,
Scott

Riffman,

Great pics. Can’t wait to try out the trails. It will be my first time off roading so I hope its not too challenging. By the looks of the pictures and the way you describe it, it doesn’t seam too tough.

I’m good to go any weekend except May 27th and June 17th. The sooner the better I say!


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Rock'n 97 Sport 4X4

Ok, the bug has bit me. I can't wait to get back there. I am gonna go back this weekend with the same guy. Only this time, hes not stock anymore. After the fun that he had last weekend, he went out and bought new wheels, tires, and a suspension lift!!!! Aparently he has money to burn. Anyway, if any of you feel like going this weekend, as well as later weekends...we are gonna go this sunday. Probably getting there about 1:00 or so. If any of you do want to go this weekend, let me know, and I will look for you. I'll still take some more pictures to try to give you a better idea of what the trails are actually like.

Later,
scott

I plan to be there. Will let u know if plans change.

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Kampy

kampy@internetni.com

Sounds like a plan. I will certainly try to make it.

Kampy, are you taking 39 down? Maybe we can meet up and cruse down together. I live in Streamwood. Just about as far east of Rockford as you are west of it.

Anyway, sounds like fun. I hope more will join us.


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Rock'n 97 Sport 4X4

Too bad I can't do it this Saturday. Got to go to Indiana. Sometime in April perhaps? Keeps us posted as far as trips this way. 18th or 25th of March might work for me.

Later,



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Andre Hryn
94 Limited
http://www.inter-kiosk.com

Cameron, I wont be going down 39, it's 50 miles or more out of my way, but I do look forward to meeting you there.

Andre, Were going Sunday, not saturday. Could you possibly make it? Around 1 in the afternoon.

Riff. I will plan to meet you in the parking lot by the boatramp around 1 (ish)

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Kampy

kampy@internetni.com

Not good. Sundays don't really work for me since I'm in Real Estate and as you know, I do work a lot on Sundays. I might be able to drop it all one day, forget it and join you? Perhaps? Let me know when you plan on doing it again.

Thanks,
(Just getting some big a** tires put on, should be fun)



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Andre Hryn
94 Limited
http://www.inter-kiosk.com

WHEW!!!!! I just got done cleaning my truck. I have never been in soo much gook and crap in my life (though I don't have a great wealth of expreience (spelling?)). Pics are coming soon. It took me about 2 hours total to get all the crap off the outside of my truck. The inside is a whole different story.

In case you couln't tell yet, this weekend w\ kampy got a little messy. I don't think that anyone in there right mind, short of having 40" boggers should try this one part of the trail.

The rest however, would be a good begining trail. Kampy, you agree, right? So pretty much if your looking for a good time to beat around a little...enjoy some company...but not get into really hard serious offroading, then i think that it would be a good place.

I actually learned a bit from kampy, too. Thanx a whole lot man!!! If you come back down, let me know, im gonna get you a frickin cake or somting...hehehe...anyway...the offer is still out there to offroad for anyone. But if you do come, then it would be quite smart to have towhooks. trust me.

later,
scott

You know there is a correlation between how long it takes to clean your truck and how much fun you had. Sounds like you guys had a blast.

I was kind of bummed that I couldn’t make it last Sunday. Let me know when you guys plan a Saturday outing.


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Rock'n 97 Sport 4X4

I still haven't cleaned my truck.

Yea, I had fun. Ribs still hurt from laughing at Riff.

My parents said I was like that when I was his age but I don't believe them!

It's a VERY mild trail with a few three foot deep swamp holes thrown in for good measure.

Don't come without a shovel AND front and rear tow hooks.

Riff,
look for information into that farm thats open for mudding.

buy some towhooks!!!

I've got my feelers out for a place thats closer to me to go out and slop around in. Will let you know if anything turns up.

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Kampy

kampy@internetni.com

I wanna go again....anyone with me?

Riff,
You know that I am in...
Let's start a new topic for this one..
what do you think?


Dave


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Big Dave
'94 XLT 4x4
modified air box
K&N airfilter
"Take her easy, and if she's easy take her twice.." (The trail I mean..)

Big Dave, what happened to ya?? Thought we lost you, hadn't heard from you in quite a while.

Riff, did you ever get all the muck off your steering wheel? Did you find out anything about that farm that was in that area? Did you get tow hooks put on yet or will we have to pull your bumper all the way off before you get around to it?

I for one have been lazy, got the name of the place I was looking for but haven't called for info yet. That's how it goes when you get old, fat and lazy though.

This week I will see what I can find out about this place up here and get back with you guys.

Riff, the part number for that GM towhook kit is 999866 . It will set you back a whole $18.27 . Should be able to order it at any GM dealer. Also note the E-mail address change.

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Kampy

kampy@aeroinc.net

Hey! I’m in! I wasn’t able to make it last time so I’m due. Assuming it’s all the same to everyone else, can we do this on a Saturday?

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Rock'n 97 Sport 4X4

It will have to be this weekend (the 8 or 9th) or 22 or 23 and after. I have togo home and see a buddy of mine woh is graduating from OCS and will only be in town for a week before he has to go back to Quantico. I would really like to get out and go this weekend, but I know you all have busy schedules.

A little off topic, but have any of you changed your rear brake shoes before? If so, how long will it take me and how difficult is it? I need to changemy shoes, but I am wondering how much time it will take.

If it won't take too long, maybe we could do it saturday before we go out? http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif Kinda scared to do it alone the first time.

Let me know



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Big Dave
'94 XLT 4x4
modified air box
K&N airfilter
"Take her easy, and if she's easy take her twice.." (The trail I mean..)

Big Dave,

Does your Explorer have 4 wheel disk breaks? I assume it does. I have a 97 Sport and it does. Anyway, have you ever changed your front breaks? If so, it’s the same difference. If not, I’ll be happy to help you out. It should take about 30 minutes. Of course if you have drum breaks in the back, I’ve never done those before but would help you anyway, I’m sure we could figure it out. Anyway, let me know and I’ll be sure to bring the tools along.


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Rock'n 97 Sport 4X4

Cam - I have drums in the rear. I have a manaul that shows how to do it so i am hoping to get it done tomorrow afternoon.

Everyone - Are we going this weekend or some other time? It turns out that I will only be available on Saturday. I really want to go, so if everyone could respond today that would be great.

Riff - If you can go on Saturday, email me with directions to your place or somewhere to meet.

I want to thank Riffman for finding this place.

Again, make sure you let us know if you're able or think you're able to atttend.

Thanks,

Dave

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Big Dave
'94 XLT 4x4
modified air box
K&N airfilter
"Take her easy, and if she's easy take her twice.." (The trail I mean..)

Uh....sorry guys....my best friends sister is in the hospital, and I have to take him up there. There is a possibility that we will be back and good to go on sunday. Sorry about this. It just came up. Let me know of other times that you can go. Sorry..

Riff,
Is the place that you went last time on public property or private property? I ask because I can't go on Sunday and I am going home to chicago the next weekend. If it is on public property and someone would want to meet there I would still be willing to go. Riff if it is on public property email me the directions if you can.

Thanks


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Big Dave
'94 XLT 4x4
modified air box
K&N airfilter
"Take her easy, and if she's easy take her twice.." (The trail I mean..)

I can't make it this weekend, but should be able to another time. Keep available dates posted and we'll all get together to laugh at Riff.

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Kampy

kampy@aeroinc.net

Ok,
I am going to assume that this weekend is off. The next earliest weekend that I could go would be the weekend of the 22. Let me know if anyone else is interested.

Dave

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Big Dave
'94 XLT 4x4
modified air box
K&N airfilter
"Take her easy, and if she's easy take her twice.." (The trail I mean..)

The 22nd sounds good to me. I’m looking forward to it.

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Rock'n 97 Sport 4X4

I tried to get the most recent posts back, but for some reason they won't come back up.

Here are the pages that are missing, but I don't know what will happen if you try to post to them
http://63.249.193.179/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000099-3.html
http://63.249.193.179/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000099-4.html
http://63.249.193.179/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000099-5.html
http://63.249.193.179/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000099-6.html

If anyones interested...im gonna go back to pekin this weekend....

Riff,

You know that I am interested, but...

I will be standing in my best friends wedding on Saturday so I don't think that I'll be able to make it :)

Guess what, the last time I threw out my alignment and busted a brake caliper I think, but I think I fixed the caliper, I'll know more tomorrow when I drive to Chicago.

I'd be happy to share a campsite with you and Kampy and anyone else. But I won't have time to check out the campsite so if someone could I would appreciate it.

Dave

..(but before i go on....just know that we have already established that im a really crappy speller, so no wize cracks please ;) )...I just received a phone call from the pike county chamber of comerse...and the lady there said that most of the 8 trails used on the jeep jamboree were all put together with a bunch of different peoples private properties.....Jeep Jamboree USA put them all together only for this anual event.

Now she did say that there were some trails around that the local jeep club uses, and those are accessable...unfortuantely she doesn't really know about them. I left a message for the local club to give me a call, and am still waiting to here back from them.

Just thought that i would give you a little update..

later,
scott

Riff,

Nobody and I mean nobody is a worse speller then I.

Anyway, keep up the hunt. The more trails we find in Illinois (southern Wisconsin, western Indiana) the better. Let us know what you come up with.

And as a side note, do you all realize this thread has been active sense 11/12/99? 7 months! If I’m not mistaken, that’s the longest thread. Thanks to members like riff, BigDave, kampy and you too Andre. Let’s keep it going!


P.s. I think Rick has something to do with this thread’s longevity too.

It's been seven months already? So we can talk, that's it? No runs yet? Guys! we better do something soon, very soon!!


Hope Attack on Attica comes through,,,,,


:D

Yea, there have been runs, don't you remember? Riff and big Dave just went a couple of weeks ago and Riff and I went back in march. The rest of you guys have your chance to get with the program in two weeks. It'll be fun!

and this weekend too...i know its kinda short notice...but im goin to pekin again....if anyone wants to go....COME ON!!! the more the merrier....

Riff,

I would love to go with you but I'll be busy fishing in the Florida Keys. :D 9 days of rest and relaxation!

Anyway, looking forward to the Attica run. I expect my Wilderness roof rack in today. I'll be able to load it with tons of stuff.

Just keeping it alive!

Well, I guess I will add some content to keep this post ligament.

Attica run tomorrow!

Woo woo!!!!!!!!

I hope all you people show up!

I don't know if any of you need a break...but i don't think i got dirty enough at attica. Anyone care to join me on saturday in Pekin for a little playing in the mud? Lemme know!!

later,
scott

Let me check my schedule Riff...I may be in on that...

Dave

Oh yeah and riff...

be glas that it rained or not only would you be dirty, but you would be smelly too. :D :D

Sorry, couldn't resist..

Dave :)

Riff, you told me that you're not going this weekend. Change of plans? on a row? I might want to go. E-mail me details.

Thanks.

:D

How about Saturday the 15th in Pekin? anybody anybody?

Now, this was not intended. This weekend most likely would be the weekend to put body lift on my truck. I just got it and need to talk to you riff regarding instal. Too bad I'm leaving for Europe the next weekend. I'll be back 17th of August so might do anything after that day.

Later,

I just got this out of 4wheeler magazine.

"August 19-20
Hank's 4x4 jamboree will be held at the Tri-County Fairgrounds in Mendota, Illinois. contact: Hank Walsh, 815-434-4077, 815-433-3096"

Anybody Interested?

You bet, I'm interested. Mendota is only an hour away from the house and I know it's close to you also. Only 15 miles north of La Salle/Peru. I wonder whats going on? If its a real jamboree or a tough truck contest? I really don't want to pound my truck into oblivion, but I'm game to watch others do it. I didn't get my mag yet so I'll have to wait to find out.

That is the weekend before school starts for me, so I am not sure whether or not I'll be able to attend. RIff, if you can find out any details let me know via the board or email. I'm with Kampy, I don't want to mess up my truck but its always fun to watch others do it.

Dave

I'll give that guy a call tomorrow, then get back to ya'll.

Just so you know...i haven't been able to get ahold of the guy for the jamboree.....but i left a message asking for details. As soon as i hear somthing, i'll let you all know...

well...one things for sure.....i get along great with his answering machine!!!!

Do you guys realize that we have had this thread going for 9 months now? We may have to make a run somewhere to celebrate the birth of this thread!! That would be could to have a first annual "Trails in Illinois?" run... Just a thought...

Dave

ok....Hank just called back, and here are the specs

its a 2 day thing, and its $15 a day or $25 for both days.

They have a truck show for everyone for free. there are a bunch of different classes too, so if you enter your clean truck, it might not be too bad.....

They also have a tought truck, that WILL beat the sh*t out of your truck. entry for that is either 15 or 20, and there are different classes for that too....

There is a mud bog contest that i think will be cool....there is an entry of 10 for the 4 and 6 cylinder class.

there is a truck pull for different classes, and that is 10 or 15....

there is a truck drag race on the track that is 10..

he said that there is gooing to be some monster trucks running...tractor pulls.....blah blah blah blah.....

It really sounds like its going to be a lot of fun. Personally, im going to run the mud bog, and probably the truck pull...maybe the drag...i dunno.....all i know is im gonna get my ass kicked, but it will be fun!!!! the only down side, is to run....you have to wear a seat belt, and a helmet. (for insurance purposes)

He has sent me a schedual of events, and i will post whats happening on what day as soon as i get it.

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as far as a run for a celebration.....Im game...im always game....anyting anything....if it rains on friday...i might be in pekin...but im not sure...it depends on amber....(i know...im whipped....)

this is the write up from 2 years ago. he has made some changes, such as, there aren't going to be any pro mud racers there running.....

Hank's 4x4 Jamboree (http://www.truckworld.com/Shows-Events/98-hanks/hank1.html)

Good work riff, you might be worth having around after all.

Mud Bog :D
Truck Pull :D
Tough Truck :( not for me

I'll have to meet you there. Oh and buy the way, the winch is in the garage, just have to figure out just exactly how I want to mount it. After it's on might have to test it on the orange trail. :D

this is the report from 99's jamboree....

Hank's 4x4 Jamboree '99 (http://www.truckworld.com/Shows-Events/99-hanks/99hank1.html)

thought you might like to look at it too....

Saturday:
registration...10 AM - 1 PM (for saturday events only)

-Truck Dirt Drags...1 PM
-Quad Runner Dirt Drags...Following Trucks
-Show N' Shine Cruise...3 PM
-Truck Pulls...5:30 PM
-Tough Truck...Following Pulls
-Tractor Pulls
-Back to Back Pulls...Following Tractor Pulls
-Monster Trucks


Sunday:
Registratioin...9 AM - 11 AM

-Mud Bogs...12 Noon
-Monster Truck Racing...1 PM
-Quad Runner Races
-Show N' Shine Final Judging...1-4 PM
-Show N' Shine Trophy Presentation...4:30

Like I said before, Helmets and seatbelts are required.

AND:
No carry in coolers, no barrels or kegs, no glass bottles of any kind, and no pets or atv's on premisies.

Thats about it.

Did Hank send you something with the different classes on it? I know you posted it above but I wanted to double check, different classes for the mud bog and for the truck pull? How exactly is it broken down? Let me know how its all gonna pan out.

Oh and by the way, I'm beginning to see orange!!!, spent all day fabing up mount brackets for the winch. It's bolted on, just need to run the hyd lines and the electrical stuff. Still have to figure out how I'm going to put the tow hooks back on. The winch stuff took over the tow hooks' home. I took pics so if Ricks interested he will be able to post the install. I mounted it behind the bumper, I didn't care for the pushbar mounts, and I think I kept most of my approach angle.

Later

as in hydrolic?!?!?! Did you get the Milemarker winch?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


as far as the classes go...i'll call him tomorrow, and find out exactly what they are, and write em down this time!!!

[Edited by riffman on 07-30-2000 at 12:38 AM]

Yes I got a hydraulic milemarker 9000. I figured it was time to try something different.

I've had a Ramsey RE 10,000 on a fullsize Chevy, heck of a winch, worm gear drive, strong as heck.

Had an 8274 Warn on a blazer, another great winch, loved the line speed.

I wanted to get away from the bigger alternator, dual battery, overheated winch motor problems. #1 because there just isnt room under the hood and you have to pay big bucks to get a big alternator to pull long distances. If you have to pull a long way in really bad stuff you have to stop several times to let the motor cool down and it takes quite a while. Been there, done that!!!

This will pull as long as the truck will run. It might have been the wrong answer but I wanted to try. If you don't try you'll never know. Plus the hyd setup is lighter which will help my suspension.

I guess we'll see when its all together.

thats the winch i wanna get. hope i get to see how it works.....

sorry...but i haven't checked on the classes yet....i'll try again tomorrow.

Hmm, just found this thread. I live in Evanston, ILL. It's just north of the Chicago limits. You guys have room for one more mud slinger?

HECK YEAH!!!!

When is the next get together?

There is Hank's 4x4 Jamboree in metamora coming up on the 19-20 of august. I think a few of us are planning on doing the mud drag, truck pulling, blah blah blah.....check back on the page before this one to see all of the stuff.

I'm still waiting to hear back from Hank on what belongs in what class for competition....

ok.....got the classes......heres how it goes....

for the dirt drag race....its one class...someone will draw 2 names out of a hat, and they will race....so you could be up against some litte zuki....or you could be up against a 3/4 ton ford with a 460 and a blower....

for the truck pull....(there will be a sled named magnum that you will pull.....oh yeah...and no ball hitches are allowed....you need to find a clevase that attaches to your hitch..) there are 2 classes....
class a. small block's and v6's
class b. big blocks and diesels

for the tough truck....anything goes..

for back to back pulling.......same as the dirt drag....but on a high note...we will be on dirt, not pavement, and he said that most trucks either get pulled right away, or niether one moves... and there is a lot of spinning tires too, so he said for that not to discourage us...cause it really is a lot of fun....

on sunday...the only classes competition is the mud bog....

it has:
class 1= 4 and 6 cyl...where we can have any tire...any lift.....blah blah blah....
class 2= v8 stock and 33" tires or under....no lifts...
class 3= mod class.....37" tires and under
class 4= super mod.....44" and under
and it goes up from there to open and pro class

on the mud drag...we can go up to a higher class....but not down into one...but since we are the lowest...then i guess we don't have to worry about it...

oh yeah...one more thing....for class 1 and 2....there are trophy prizes....from there on up there are cash prizes...


Ok...i know some of you are thinking....damn...this sounds like its really gonna be for the big built up trucks!! Well..i asked hank the same thing, and he said that the crowd seems to go for the underdog...so the litte guys (us) make it a lot of fun.....and a lot of the events are right in front of the grandstand too....so thats a lot of exposier for your truck too....

besides....how cool would it be to beat the sh*t out of some freakin s-10 or a blazer?!?!?!

he wanted me to make sure that all of you know that to run in any of these events....seatbelts and helmets are REQUIRED!! and for insurance reasons....he can't let any passengers in your truck either....

so whos going?

im gonna try like hell to get on my lift before then...

I have plans of heading down to Hanks on Saturday. Don't know if I'll enter anything or just look what other people have done to there trucks and get so more ideas for mine.
Who all is going to be there?

I am definitely going! We should all meet up somewhere there. Only problem is, someone has had to have been there once before to tell us where to meet. ;)

Riffman, do you know of a place there that we could find easy to meet? I think it would be great for all of us to get together and put a face(and a truck) with these user names.

:)

Well...I've never been there before, but my roomate is from up there. There is a truck stop right off of 39 that we could all meet. Its right there at the mendota exit. Im planning on getting up there kinda early so i can register for the events. So i will probably try to get there at about 12 or so on saturday. anybody wanna meet there?

Sounds good to me, I'm in. I will be coming from the east on 88 so just let me know what to look for once I get onto 39.

We will be there, We could meet at the truck stop without a problem, But are you sure you want to get there at 12:00. This Jamboree used to be in Sandwhich Ill. and we would get there by 10:00 to get good spots for parking in the show.

well i dunno....since im going to be joining some of the competitions...i don't know where we will park. I'll get ahold of hank, and ask him how that works too! :)

well...i still don't know about parking...but lets see who alls going.... so far it looks like...

Riffman (huh huh....thats me)
Kampy
Denis Meyers
2001ExpSport

anybody else?!?!?!

Hey denis you gonna bring your bull head? Maybe they'll let us race em down that bog!!! hahaha....i can see it now...

Kyosho Vs. Tamiya
(i crack myself up....)

[Edited by riffman on 08-08-2000 at 11:08 PM]

I will be more than happy to bring the Bullhead for a race.

Kyosho would cream that heavy, ancient speed control equiped Tamiya, unless it's modified of course.http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

I will just have to bring my Monster Beetle or maybe my Super Champ. Remember that one? Aluminum suspension, water proof radio box, all aluminum gear case w/out diff? ;)

Ahh, they don't make 'em like they used to.

Yes, I am going. Got the day off from work and everything. :)

you seem kinda confident dennis!!! lol.......am i gonna get creamed?


ok...im gonna start a new thread for the jamboree.... look for it out there.....

2001 and Riffman
I will be there and by the way the bullhead has had a few modifications done to it, So it is kinda fast for a 13 pound chunck of steel.

Then that would make you the CREAMER?

How would everyone feel about meeting in town. Theres a couple of gas stations we could meet at, I could pick one if you like. Also need a good meeting time, Riff if you're gonna enter you don't want to be dragging your lazy butt in there at the last minute. I have to find out where the fairgrounds are for sure, I can't help but think it will be marked but you never know. Let me know what you think.

Whatever works is fine with me as long as I have good directions from the highway.

yeah....im planning on getting there on time!! i found these directions from a supercross page.


"The fairgrounds is located on the east edge of town, on 1st avenue.
If you are coming in on route 34 from interstate 39, follow the state (brown signs)
for the fairgrounds, at the corner of 1st avenue and us route 34 turn left or south,
then take first avenue 7 blocks south to the north entrance of the fairgrounds.

INTERSTATE 80 IS 12 MILES...... SOUTH OF MENDOTA
INTERSTATE 39 IS 2 MILES..... EAST OF MENDOTA
INTERSTATE 88 IS 28 MILES........ NORTH OF MENDOTA"

as soon as i get home...(im at work now)....i will post some maps to better help illustrate the area.

ok...now im at home......use the directions that are up there, and these maps for a reference....

Click here for 3 maps (http://explorer.rockcrawler.com/maps.html)

now...im not really familiar with the area, but i guess there is a truck stop near 51/39 that we could meet at....i think. anybody have a better place in mind? (i hope)

as far as time is concerned...im open for ideas....anybody?

[Edited by riffman on 08-10-2000 at 10:58 PM]

Good maps Riff, I talked to a guy today that lives in Mendota. The maps are right on. The easiest way will be to meet at the truckstop like was initially proposed. I believe there are two of them at the exit so someone has to pick??? And no, I cant remember the names. Might drive down on sunday to find out if no other info has been posted. Later.

I would prefer meeting at the truck stop. It's large and easy to find. If we park near the entrance, we will be easy to see for others that might be meeting up with us. As for me, I have never been in that part of the state so it's new ground for me. I will be leaving early because I live about an hour east of the fairgrounds. I think we should get there as early as possible so we can get good parking spots. As far as events like this go, parking will fill up fast. This is a state wide event so a lot of people will be coming.

Let me know what you guys think. We should come to an agreement for a meeting by Wednesday or Thursday in case any straglers to the thread want to meet us as well.

Also, we should decide how long we will wait for others before we move on. I did this a lot in California, 10 of us would meet up on our bikes and then ride the trails all day. We set up designated meeting spots and how long we would wait....etc.

Just thinking ahead.

Oops! Didn't see the post about the truckstop.

...but if the truck drags is at 1...and we can register at 10.....if we showed up right at 10, then that would give us 3 hours to gawk at the other trucks before the competition begins.....so...maybe if we meet at the truck stop at like 9:30 then waited until like...uh.....9:50 for any scragglers...(like dave and andre..hahahaha)...then head on over to the fairgrounds....that sound good to you? i don't know the name of the truckstops, but we could all leave our cbs on like channel 25 or somthing like that, then holler out when you get near.....or somthing like that....

waddaya think?

Sounds good to me.

What we can do is meet in the front parking lot of the Amoco truck stop around 9:30 and leave from there at 9:50 and go stumble around looking at the trucks, just like Riff suggested. It's real close to the fairgrounds, I drove down to check it out tonight. For those coming in off of I-39 it's exit 72. I'll be there waiting unless plans change. I'll post a copy of this on the Hanks thread in case someone looks there but does'nt look here.

Sounds good, I will see you there.

Thought I would bring this back to the top again. All of you new guys if you are from the midwest area and know of any good trails post them here. Also be sure to scheck out the Attack on Attica II thread...

Dave

Ya, what BigDave said!

blickity blam! bump to top.....for the newbies that didn't know that there were that many of us in Illinois....

word spreads really fast. Just before the first "attack on Attica" we had only a hangfull of "Explorers" and now look at the list. Well, let's hope more show up as we go.
Another mini run is in the works so get in touch and post your opinions here. Know of any good places to go wheeling? let us know since we're always looking for a way to get "outdoors".

(if you know what I mean)

Later,

Good thing I started this thread huh? It has been at or near the top of this group for about a year now... Sorry, I needed a cheap self-esteem boost. Seriously though, if anyone knows any good offroading spots in Illinois, Wisconsin, or Indiana post it so we can try to get a group to go there.

Dave

I think there are some trails in Indiana, but don't quote me on it.

lol....smartass

lol, I have talked to some guy Friday about trails in Wisconsin. Someplace north of Green Bay around some pipeline???? Dunno, will probably talk to him some more tomorrow.

Will post,

from what i have heard...the pipeline is supposed to be really cool. i would like to try it if at all possible.....andre, do you know where it is, and what it is all about?

Some guys at Attica were talking about that too. They where from Milwaukee and said it's right near them. I believe Kampy has thier info, he had an Explorer and wanted to join. They where there with ATV's when we were there.

Matt and Riff--Have ya searched here for that pipeline place? I think I've heard about it on here before and there was a web link to it.
Pete

weblink Pete? I dunno. I got a bit more info from this guy today. Looks like around Crivitz, north of Green Bay. Look it up on the map going north on Rt.141 from Green Bay. I'll try to get more info and hopefully a map of how to find it.

Later,

yeah...i did a little research too, and from what it looks like, it really is a lot of mud there. YIPEE!!! thats my element!

but i posted on a mid west forum asking for more information, so hopefully i'll get some from there....if you beat me andre...put it up!! cool?

Andre, I think the link was under a post or thread relating to Wisconsin state legal truck limitations....
That is all I remember off hand.
Thanks,
Pete
I'll try and search later for it.

i just got a reply back from a guy on the wisconsin board....here it is...


Hey Scott!
The pipeline is located about 10 miles east of Mountain WI just past Crooked Lake. It runs N-S at that point, from hwy 64 at the south to Boat Landing Road at the north. If you would like to get involved with our rehab project, we are having a work date on November 11th - meet on the Pipeline at the top of the rock hill, just south of FS 2101/Bucks Ranch Road on the Pipeline. Bring a shovel, rake, and gloves and lend a hand!!

Otherwise, there are numerous clubs in Wisconsin who frequent the area. I do suggest you go there with an experienced group....most of it is no problem, but there are some extremely deep holes that most folks wish to avoid.

Check out the Wisconsin web site at our NRTA link for some historical information on this area. http://www.wi4wda.org

Hope to see ya up there!

Brian Swearingen
http://www.ih8mud.com


waddaya think? anybody? wanna try it sometime?

Riff, I posted on another board and a guy that lives up there sent this reply,

If you're free this weekend, we have our fall run fri-sun this
weekend. Even doing a "rally" (insert evil laugh).
Staying at McCaslin Mountain campground on hwy F east of Lakewood, WI.
Bring long undies, it was cold up there this past weekend. There was
frost on the tent before we even got to bed!

The Pipeline is an area on the eastern edge of the Nicolet National
Forest, an actual right-of-way for the natural gas pipeline. The pipe
is about 4 feet (is most spots) under the surface. ANR Pipeline Co.
allows the use of the property, and in turn 4wheelers help keep the
right-of-way clear by traffic. The trail head is about 8 miles east of
Lakewood, WI, and continues south past hwy 64. Not all of the area is
open, and if anybody goes there.. DO NOT CROSS THE ROCK BARRIERS!
This could result in trail closure of possible death (yup, I said
death) since the closed areas have insufficient coverage over the
pipe. A 36" pipe exploding isn't a good thing. The area is patrolled
by the Forest Service who have full law enforcement rights (since it
fringes the forest property.) There are many off-shoot trails also,
but you have to be careful since many of the closed trails aren't
marked as such. The Pipeline trail itself is really kind of boring.
Just a series of mud holes connected by a very easy (station wagon)
trail. It is the other trails in the area that make it a great place.

Cruise up there if you can, I guarantee you'll have a blast.

another guy offered to be a guide for us up there if we wanted to play.....lotsa mud, he says....so we can get there and have somebody who knows whats going on with us...so now we just have to figure out when we wanna go. cause its quite the long drive for me, and some others too......

p.s. attica mini run the 4th of november...anybody in?

Hey riff, you want to goto Moab next year? Pete wants to go too. Talked to my GF about it and she wants to go as well.


Let me know, sh!t like this need major planning.

hell yeah man!! i had already decided that i was gonna go from the Moab Edition Thread. But im NOT driving my rig that whole way....by then i hope to have an additional truck, and a trialer. cause theres not way in hell im driving that explorer for like 24 hours straight!!

wuss

Why would you drive it for 24 hours straight? Did you ever hear about rest areas? motels? camps? You can simply drive 8-10 hours, get some rest and then get back on the road. Oh wait!! That's Riff we're talking about; sh!t, once he's onto something you can't stop him!!!!!!!

Well, Moab sounds good.
Nov. 04 at Attica doesn't sound good. We were kind of thinking about going like on the 18th of November.

Can you make it then?

Later,
More pix coming tomorrow from our Attica run!!!!!!!

See ya!

oh yeah...i'll be there then too!!!!

Moab:
i don't want to drive if for a few reasons....the knobby tires suck on highways...just ask pete....and i don't want to change em......and i would get better gas mileage in a truck pulling a trailer than my damn explorer getting about 6 or 7 mpg!! also, being lifted now doesn't really like highway speeds....so yeah..i am a wuss....but who cares!!

If moab dates are right...meaning if they hold off till the end of may, then I'll go locked and regeared.....I plan on trailering it somehow...Rent a u-haul or something...I don't need anymore miles and I'd prefer not to break down and that be my only source of transportation
Pete

Pete your are going to need one pretty tall U-Haul to fit that bad boy in.

Naw...I'm gonna try and get one of those like, F-550's with the car carrier on the back...or something like that...But I gotta see what is available...I have yet to look into it
Pete

i tell ya what pete...i got a friend that i have been talking to....hes got a 2 car hauler that he might let me borrow...obviously we have a little time, but if you want, we might be able to load both up...ya know?

Riff...If I can squeeze mine in/on...I dunno if it's an open or closed carrier...But hey...if I'm goin and the spots open, I'm game...How is the carrier pulled then?
Pete

[Edited by RFR2212 on 10-26-2000 at 10:40 PM]

oops....double post....

[Edited by riffman on 10-26-2000 at 10:43 PM]

Is it a trailer or truck?
I'm gonna have to get my truck regeared and locked by then...And that depends on cash...I doubt my parents will front me the money
Pete

on...its an open carrier......trailer....gotta pull it there....



so does anybody wanna try the pipeline before snow? like maybe after attica again?

I doubt I can do the pipe line....Riff, what would we do about a rig to pull that mammoth trailer...Cause that's alot of truck sittin on it...But could ya imagin the faces of the guys at moab when they see that pull in?
Hehe, I know ya like that thought! hehe
Pete

im currently trying to figure out how i can get myself a 3/4 ford now...so that would be the pulling rig....but its still in the works....

Cool. I like big fords.....Hey, better to plan this out and get it down good!
Pete

pete, you need aol instant messanger or ICQ or somthing....

no aol or ICQ,,,,,, guys, get a life!


aaaaaahhhhh, second roll of pix is up at:
http://www.geocities.com/andre_hryn/Attica/attica03.htm

See it!

Nice pics Andre! I;ve printed some of em already!
Pete

Like them, ha? Most are yours anyway. Next time I'll arm you with my camera and you'll be snaping pictures of my rig.


Like you said Pete, "Andre won't miss an opportunity (photo that is)".

I'm glad you like them.


Later,

OK we talked about MOAB nextyear but how about Truckhaven 2001? anyone?

Later,

Love em! When is truck haven? Early January?
I dunno...I need to know the tims first...
Pete

Seems like they're scheduling Truckhaven for middle of January. It would be kind of nice to be able to get away from our "beautiful" cold weather but the drive scares me. I'm about to go to OKC and it's only 800 miles each way, now think about Californi,,,,, I dunno.

I'd sure love to go. Moab sounds more like a possibility for a family event (if it's moved to June).

We'll see.

I'm wanting Moab soooooo bad!!! Um, I know truckhaven is outta the picture if in mid january...School....Plus Moab, there are 3 of us....You me riff, and maybe Matt...I think he said he was interested....I'm not sure though...
Pete

Also I would hope to start early in Attica next year.

I would like to at least visit this "Pipeline" thing and see what it's all about.

I'm busy though next weekend, then it's 11th of November, 18th we're wheeling in Attica, then it's Thanksgiving weekend and later we're into December (snow, ice, cold you know- too late).

Perhaps if we just go up north and look around in Wisconsin on 18th instead of Attica?

We should really start thinking about this thing that Cameron started with the Illinois Explorer Club. Perhaps there is a chance we could get a group together and do something about these trails in Illinois? Like buying some land you know?

Just a thought......


Later,

I hear the pipe line is nothing but mud...Not ot mention....I don't know about the drive...But I like the idea of Cameron's idea about the Illinois Explorer Club...But the land buying idea? At the early stages, it seems kinda far fetched....But then again, I could be wrong
Thanks,
Pete

that would be awesome! unfortunately....land that is big enough, and good enough to wheel on would take a WHOLE lot of capital...even at good prices.....we would want some kind of water on site...and at VERY VERY least about 50 acres...and thats on the small side...

now theres always the idea of knocking off a bank, or perhaps fort knox...then we could do it.....lol....

and yeah..i think the pipeline is almost all mud....with only 1 or 2 rock crawling areas...so i dunno.....

I've been in Real Estate sales for the last 10 years and know for a fact that buying land somewhere in the middle of nowhere is not a problem. Especially if it's not used in agriculture. That could be cheap and if you gather a few guys to do it together, well, that's not that bad. There is a responsibility there though since you'd have to take care of it too somehow. Now, we're so busy with our lives I don't know how we would take care of the land but then again, I might be wrong.

It was just a thought. Might have to talk to Cameron as well about it.
Moab looks great but it would look even better in June when my kids are out of school.
Truckhaven might be tough since it's in January and all the way in Californi......


That's all folks.

Yes, I amd planning to goto Moab Pete. Oh and the drive to Cali is 3 hard days(one way), it really sucks.

Even though this event takes place in January I won't be attending cause it's too damn far for me!!!!!!!

Too bad,,,,,,,

Moab is a different story. I'm in, just need to find out about the dates and I'm set.

Are any of you going to camp? anyone interested in reserving either a cabin or a motel room????

This thing will become a Moab connection thread in no time!



Later,

Andre, I got your tape and made you a copy. I'll send it out on Monday.

Thanks Matt, my wife is really the ONE waiting for this tape.

Andre

im kamping....er....camping....


but uh...back to a little sooner run.....who all is going to attica on the 18th?

To be honest, most of the tape is of Kampy and Pete. You are in there a couple times Andre and Dave too. There are some shots of me, but I can't video and drive at the same time. http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

November 18th. Attica -------> me!!!


Later,

See ya there Andre!
Pete

Hey guys! I'm from the Peoria area and noticed some threads about wheeling around here. I just went today at a place near the river. There are some pretty good mud bogs and a couple of crick crossing.

I have a 93 stock Explorer with 30x9.5. I got stuck a couple of times but nothing to bad.

I was just wondering if anyone knows of anywhere else in this area to go.

I couldn't tell ya about the area...But November 18th some of the guys are goin to the Badlands at Attica....Check out the Attica II aftermath if ya wanna see some pics...
Thanks,
Pete

bada bing!!!! SOME ONE CLOSER!!!! YAHOOOO!!!!!! i live in bloomington....

yeah....i've wheeled right there...just off of 24? do these pics look like it?

http://members.aol.com/riffman80

Man, I would love to go to Attica on the 18th of November. It's my birthday. But on the 11th I'm scheduled to bring my truck to DPS to start the turbocharger install. And I guarantee that it will take well over one week to do. More like a month.

On a side note, the Northern Illinois Explorer Club is not trying to buy land for off roading on it's own, we are actually will be working with other clubs such as the IFWDA (Illinois Four Wheel Drive Association) to have land set aside for recreational use. Or maybe a joint purchase by the members of many local off-road clubs but that is a logistical nightmare.

Please visit

http://www.ericcameron.com/Niec/NIEC.htm

That would be the idea. Get some land, work on it and use it for your recreational purposes. I have a friend that owns a huge chunk somewhere in WI. I'll talk to him to see how much and what's not. I know he's got woods there and a creek. That would be cool. Another think is if municipalities somewhere down state would let you use your land the way you wish. Democracy you know.

Even opening an Attica type of park would be so much cool.

Just a thought.

So who all is goin to Attica the 18th? I'd like to have a few trucks incase there is alot of mud and we've gotta do alot of pullin...I'm in though...I'm talkin to Marc...See if him and his toyota wanna make a run again...I wanna attempt to keep this alive.....Riff...You got youre tires yet? Andre, will ya be lifted in time?
Pete

Yep, that's the place. It is Mendonhall Rd. or Mendonhall Boat ramps.

There was five of us. A stock Jeep Wrangler, S10, full size Blazer with 33's, and an f-150. We all got stuck a couple of time's, but that's what made it fun.

A couple of places are missleading. There are cricks that look like you could drive right through it, but as soon as you get in, you just sink. Can you say RIVER SLUDGE!!

Anyway, there is another place to get to the river. It's right off of I-74. I haven't been there in a while, but i'm thinking about checking it out soon. Maybe i'll check it out this weekend. I'll let you guys know.

Later, Dustin

um....if you ever need sombody to run in the mud with...gimme a call....the names scott, and the number is 309-662-0044

DR, I know how to say river sludge, ask Riff when you see him. I'm locked at both ends and still had to take the yank strap. It is awfully gooey down there. Why don't you think about going to attica on the 18th, you might accidentally have fun.

Kampy? Riff? Andre? Matt? Dave? DR? Anyone else? Who's in for the 18th of november at attica?
Pete
Moab is looking down hill....Damn parents! Always squashing my fun!

you know im there chiz-ump....

Hopefully you guys don't mind me being here, but I noticed some of you found trails on the river in Peoria. My cousin lives there and the both of us are always looking to have some fun. He owns a durango and I have a '00ZR2. If you guys are looking for extra people to wheel with, we would be more than happy to go out there from time to time. the only other place I know of to go to is the badlands in Indiana. I've been there twice and that place is awesome! thanks and sorry for the intrusion. you can contact me at smsmith4@lucent.com if you like.

1tfrot--What? A chevy? --Gasp-- No no...Only givin ya a hard time...Welcome to the site and I'm sure even though you aren't driving an explorer, you'll get quite a bit outta the site...We're gonna be wheelin for the day on the 18th of November..You and your buddies are more than welcome to come wheelin with us...The more trucks the merrier
Pete

thanks for the invite. I would like to try the trails in Peoria sometime. I know we have a group of 6-8 trucks going to the badlands Nov 19th in case anybody wants to join us or for those who can't go the 18th. Most of us don't care who we wheel with, as long as it's fun. :) maybe we'll see you guys sometime soon. anyone is welcome to contact me via email for a trip. take care.

Whos going to attica and what days? I plan to go both the 18th and 19th. Five hours one way is to far to drive for one day. Riff, both days?

1TFROT, we always run on cb channel 25 when we are there so if you have one we should be easy to find.

well....i had planned on only saturday...but since you are probably running both days...i probably will too...but i dunno about a hotel...i will probably kamp....less deniro, know what i mean?

Riff, you might want to call about camping. I think summers campgrounds last day for the season was the 8th. There is another place, but I don't remember right off hand.

Ya know...Kampy...If you're goin both days...I'm game for sunday too....I would like to get a room at Days inn I believe this time....That ramada was pretty shatty...Um, I'm waiting to hear back from Marc if he wants to go...So...I was plannin on 1 day...But if there are enough guys...I'm game for 2...Kampy...How well would I fair on the orange trail you guys did?
Pete

i'll check on camping...but since there are no real events in layfayette that weekend, we might check out the ramada there....its pretty nice. thats where i stayed at Attack on Attica I. and yeah..i think i just convinced myself not to camp. Pete..need a roomate?

OK boys and girls, I'm alive. Everybody present? OK. Here's what's happening with me. I will be lifted for the event Pete as my 2" suspension lift is sitting in my garage right now. I'm shopping for a winch. Now I just bought pretty nice set of Dunlop Rover Mud tires today but looks like it's gonna be a wrong size. Riff, do you need 35" Mud tires? These are installed on my 15X8 black AR wheels. I'd love to trade them for a set of 33's. OK now, problem is I have much more to worry about now. Coming back from work today I noticed some kind of squeeling noise coming from the front wheel. When I took the wheel off hub was very hot and hard to turn like the brakes were locked. Almost by my house I heard a knock in that wheel and now there's more noise. Looks like either something with brakes or bearings. Let's just hope it's not the hubs since I didn't even put it in 4 wheel since Attica. I'm taking the whole thing apart tomorrow as I need to put new coils in. Looks like I'll replace the brake outfits anyway as I have new sets sitting on the counter. If I have everything together I'm game for both dates. Sat. and Sun. and Lafayette looks very nice to me. Ramada there is pretty cool, a lot better then in Danville. If I can't put it all together I'll let you know so you guys can stop by my place sometime before the run and help me get it all there. OK now, at ease!

:)

I'll help!!!! if you need it anyway...

now...heres the thing....i had almost 100% decided on 33" super swampers, and decided against the 35's....NOW you seem to have re-established my want!!! hmmm...what to do, what to do.......

i'll get back to ya....

as far as your brakes and what not...now im no expert, and kampy will probably be able to tell you more certainly than i....but i would guess a locked up caliper....i think....but who knows....

Excellent news! Andre...hope the front end is okay...Riff is in controversy as to what to do...What is a price...I'm lookin for a set of street tires...better than my old 31 A/T's and smoother than my boggers..Gimme a price and I'll see what I can do...maybe it'll be part of my x-mas present...who knows....Keep me up to date on the Ramada in Lafayette!
Thanks,
Pete

These babies are Mud tires Pete so I don't think you can run them on the street like that. I'm afraid they will not fit on my rig without mods even with this 2" stuff. 5 or 6 inch yes but not with 2 although I do have 3" of body lift there. Well, I'll try.

Front end tomorrow, will keep you posted...

Ramada? I'll book a room tomorrow. We'll share it.

works?

andre..if its cool w\ you, i'll go in on the room w\ ya...

andre...lemme know how many they got available if possible...
Thanks,
Pete

Kampy, we will definitely be there on sunday. I do not have a CB, so I won't be able to track you guys down. I do have an idea of what your truck looks like though. I have a '00 blk ZR2, my plate is my user name. If you see us, feel free to stop and say hi. Hopefully we will have atleast 6-8 trucks with us. later

I'm gonna start an attica turckey run thread to sort this all out and so this isn't going between like 3 other posts
Pete

I won't be going on the 18th. Have fun and run a hard one for me.

Bump!

Might as well, keep it floating so more guys will read it.

Any interested in whelling in Illinois or Indiana come to Attica, IN on 18th of November. We're gonna have some fun!


Later,

what are you guys asleep?

hello!?

Okay, I just got done wheeling on some new trails right off I-74. It's actually right off Pinecrest Dr. It has some pretty good hills. It's in a creek bottom. We got stuck a couple of times, but that was because we bottomed. There was one good mud hole that we didn't even want to attempt because we are stock. The hill going in and out is pretty long, winedy, and rutted.

Oh ya! The only bad part is there are big cement blocks that say keep out. They have been moved off the trail. We didn't have any problems though.

If anyone is interested let me know at DR2641@home.com



Later, Dustin

Dustin, you should of checked our thread about going to Attica this last weekend. We wheeled there two days. It's not too far from where you were. We had such a blast, looks like evry time we get there it gets better and better. More runs planned for next year though. Look up some threads about Attica in Serious Explorations. JJW started a new one so check that too. Attica turkey run aftermath. Check it out.

Later,

anybody wanna do somthing? heh heh...anything? mud? rocks? crazy a$$ winter barbeque? anybody?

Riff, the mud is going to be rocks right now or have'nt you been outside? I just came in and the temp was -2. Plan it and I'll try to be there.

Looks like we have a bunch of fair weather guys around here.

on a different note, i found a park in Missouri. I realize that it would be quite a jaunt for most of you, but i would be remiss if i didn't at least mention it. this is the description i saw.

-- "St. Joe State Park - Missouri's third-largest state park - has the largest and one of the most popular off-road-vehicle areas in the Midwest, with about 2,000 acres for riding. The park is located in the heart of the Old Lead Belt in southeast Missouri, where much of the nation's lead ore was extracted. In 1975, St. Joe Minerals Corp. ceased operations here and donated the land to the state. The wooded portions of the 8,238-acre park provide horseback-riding and hiking trails, picnic areas and campsites for horseback riders and other guests. Monsanto Lake has a large swimming beach."


Its about an hour south of St. Louis. Never been there, never heard an account of the terrain from a fellow offroader. just found it one day.


There is also the Land Between the Lakes in north eastern tenesee. Quite a jaunt, but could be fun.

Seems there's just a few of us hard core mudders out here.

Ya Scott, think something up and I'll be there. Has to be after xmas break. January sometime.

Park sounds nice. Camping trip? I might be all for it if we can get a few trucks lined-up.

Keep going, keep going.
A fellow offroader driving his Land Rover Disco told me a bit about a place in Lake Geneva. Anybody heard of it?

Later,

So what happened to all of you? fallen asleep already? Snow caused some kind of syndrome? I know it's Christmas and all but heck, don't tell me you don't even turn on your computers!

Hello everybody,

Anybody for a snow run at Attica? should be fun now, they just got a foot and might get another this weekend.........


lol,

Are you crazy Andre or am I? A snow run on those trails? That could be very harsh on our trucks...I think we'd all have traction problem....Not to mention, my dad was talking to some guy who says there's a legal wheelin spot in Elgin(30 miles west of Chicago) and I'll look into that when I get home from school.
Pete

Elgin? Man! it's my back yard.

Keep us posted.

Later,

It's a 15 minute trek for me....I'm on it!
Pete

There used to be a quarry in South Elgin where we would go wheelin back in the late 70's and early 80's. I am not sure if we can still go there but I will check into it.

Dennis, where ya been? Thought you died and went to Explorer heaven. Anyway, glad to hear from you, and let us know what's up with that quarry.

I believe that quarry is off lake street, and it's got gaurds and security 24/7...but I'll find out when I'm home.
Pete

guards shmards...we'll run em over!!!!!

hey dennis!! WHere ya been?!?! Glad to know you didn't go to explorer heaven.....is there such a place? couldn't be a place THAT wonderful.....hehe..

That would have to be a place with no paved roads, Smallest tire would be 35", Solid axles front and rear(with lockers),300+ horse power and 50 miles to the gallon.

Now that I am thinking about it there was a quarry in Coal City that we used to go to all the time. The path in was a little scary but after that it was fun. I think Coal City is by Riffman.

coal city is about an hour and a half north of me on Rt. 113...just a few miles south of where 80 meets 55. What kind of stuff was there?

I want to go off-roading so bad I can taste it. I'm up to my elbows in project "turbo". I have seen that quarry in south Elgin. It doesn't look like they allow people to go off-roading in there. Too much liability. Everyone is way too sue-happy these days. To bad eh?

Anyway, I wouldn't want to go off roading in the snow. Snow has an uncanny ability to hide trail hazards. If I had a dedicated off-road truck I would be more willing to try it.

I was just playing with you guys. This is a perfect time to work on your winter projects. Looks like I found a great "donor" to become my TRAIL ONLY rig. 1991 for $1,500. I'm not sure yet though. Hope to make it happen. Built from the ground up strictly for wheeling. Anyways, I hope we are all getting ready for MOAB? I know it's pretty far away but this would not hurt.

Anyone want to start planning? or perhaps it is too late already?

contact me. I'm going alone, driving there in my Un-Limited unless I can find someone to share a semi.

See YA!

hell man...i've been planning for Moab for the past 2 months!! I got a 2 car trailer lined up (sorry, both spots are taken), but i have yet to find a pull rig. grrr....i am pseudo looking at a 92 f30 xlt w\ a 7.3 powerstroke for only 6500. i think this is a pretty damn good deal, but i haven't seen the truck in person. this is what it looks like.

http://images.autotrader.com/575/736/57573628_000623_240x160.jpg

sound like a good deal?


andre...you better hurry and confirm your going!! there is only one spot left!!!!

All the slots are full, why didn't you sign up Andre?

Oh, slots? Matt? lol;
No room for me? how come? it's still like half a year till the run, anyways, sounds like Moab is the place. Everybody's going.


If I"m looking to get on where should I search for my rooms? cabins?

HELP!!!

Scott, don't know if it matters to you or not but the 92 7.3 is an IDI motor not a DI, they don't have as much torque or power as the newer DI powerstroke, but they're still a good engine.

The DI "powerstroke" came out in the 94 model year.

Andre, you had to sign up for the trip and there were only 30 slots and they are all full. You can email GJarret to see if you can still get in.

Hey Matt, there was one last spot open so I did sign up and now I'm in the process of shopping for a room.
Where is that Silver Sage Motel everybody is staying at? I might just opt for the Super 8 or Best Western. Ramada is pretty cheap and I'm afraid that it might well be , well, cheap.

Later,

Excellent!

I don't know where the Silver Sage is, but it's $44.95-49.95 a night. Let me know if you need the #.

I need the number........................ if there are any rooms left. lol


Later,

PS. Pete is not going?
PPS. Where did Dave dissapear?

That is correct...Pete isn't going.....No money, and since I'm broke, my parents are being all stupid, etc....So, yep, I'm not goin to Moab next year...maybe the next run, but this one is a negative.
Pete

excuses, excuses....only playin!

anyone? I need that phone number otherwise I'll have to call and reserve something at Ramada or Super 8.

Lemekno..............

Gentlemen (if we may be called that),

I am now a college graduate. I am sorry for the long absence after the last run, but I had to focus on finishing up school. Now that I am done with school I am focused on getting a job. If any of you guys have an in with your IT departments and they are looking for Business Analysts please let me know. I really need to get a job so that I can start some serious mods to my truck. Hopefully get enough done to try and make the Moab run in May, but more realistically for later in the year. Let me know how you all are doing. Like I said, I will be in and out, email me directly if you like. I have a new address. It is wiu_sig@hotmail.com. Let me know about that Elgin spot. I would be up for exploring that (no pun intended). Later.


Dave

Does any one want to have a little party or something to celebrate the one year anniversary of this thread? It's too bad that some of it is missing, or it would be twenty pages long. Let me know, maybe a little online gathering.

Dave

It depends on where you want to go. If you don't mind Bloomington, my company could probably place you at state farm or Caterpillar as a consultant.

STL Technology Partners
309-661-7851

If you put in a resume, then say you were refered by Frank Colba. That way if you get a job, i get a fat ass reward!! heh heh

Good to hear from ya!!!

What's this Frank crap? For over a year we've called you Scott, I have three email addresses for you, and none are even close to the same, what gives?...........

I think I might have it narrowed down to two possibilities
1. Your in the witness protection program, but I can't understand WHY anyone would want to KILL you.
2. There's actually two of you (God help us all), the first is online riffman, now known as frank, the mild mannered guy who can't spell and who talks us into doing these fun things on the weekend. Wheeling.

The second is his evil twin Scott, the doofy acting mud eating lunatic who also can't spell and is a little on the slow side. See, he can't remember how to put his case in 4L or his windows up when he attempts to mud race with the big DAWG (me).

Which one it is doesn't really matter cause either way we lose - option 1 you dissapear because you've been found out = we're sad cause we NEVER get to see you again. Option 2 there's actually two of you = we're sad because we HAVE to see you again. Both of you!

Dave, I hope the job search goes well.

Later guys.

hahaha...you kill me....and since you asked...your gonna get more history about me than you ever wanted to know!!

first off, i have 7 e-mail addresses:
riffman80@aol.com
riffman80@hotmail.com
jummered@hotmail.com
frank.colba.lrw8@statefarm.com
frank.colba@stltechpartners.com
scott.colba@stltechpartners.com
scolba@stltechpartners.com

My full name is Frank Scott Colba. Frank is a generational name. The first born male is named Frank Somthing, and goes by Somthing. My dad is Frank Paul, and goes by Paul. My grandpa is Frank Henry and goes by Henry. and so on and so forth.....How I got to be called Frank, was at work one time. There just so happened to be another scott working there at the time, so it was a bit confusing. Then I came in with a ticket one time. They were looking at the ticket, and saw that my first name is Frank. So they were like, thats it...from now on you are Frank. And i still work for that company. So, then know me as Frank, but everywhere else I am Scott. But neither Scott or Frank can spell, so your right Krampy...er...Kampy.....

Clear as mud?

Dave, before you look for a job, How About getting the stinkin' pictures scanned and on the thread!!! You took like 10 rolls and we haven't seen sqwat!!! Did you think we forgot about the pictures?!! Hmm?

SLACKER!!!

Okay Scott/Frank....Where did the name Riffman come in all this hotshot?
Pete

Hey Dave, glad to see you back, aaaaaaaaa hear from you, aaaaaaaa read from you,,,,,,,,,, aaaaaaa whatever!!!!!

Hope the job search goes smooth. Are you back in Chicago area???

Riff, who cares what your name is? After what we've been through we would wheel with you even if we've found out you have no name at all!! Gosh, sure sounds like a "Soap".


Happy Holidays everyone!!!

*sigh* do you really want to konw?

well...i am kind of a musician also, and i play bass. Well, i like to riff a lot. that is basically playing a whole bunch of notes really fast that go with the chord that is being played at the time. well, a guy that i was in a band with was like, man...your like a riffing mad man....then he shortened it to riffman....thats about it

again...probably more than you even wanted to konw....hehehe

Riiiight...Sure Scott/Frank...I'm starting to think you've got like 8 different personalities.....Not that it's a bad thing...Especially if all 8 personalities are guys that like to go muddin! Okay, that is enough from me....I need sleep.
Pete


P.S. Merry Christmas to all!

What is this thread about?

Moab?, Multiple personalities? Employment opportunities? That’s why this thread is a year old. We can't stay focused.

So what did everyone get for Christmas? What about them Bears?

We need to seriously plan a major outing for this spring. I know it's early but it seams that each time we plan a trip a bunch of people cant go because of conflicts. If we start talking about a spring time trip now, everyone is more apt to make that date(s) available.

Just a thought.

Big Dave! Shoot me an e-mail with your qualifications and I'll send you a list of available positions. That is, if your interested in working in Chicago. I'm a systems analyst at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and they are in need of systems people. Let me know and I'll see if I can't point you in the right direction.

It's never too early. Planning in advance will sure help us get more guys together. Attica once again? any new trails? When? Memorial day is the 28th of May. It's gonna be like right after Moab so it might not be a good idea to pick this date since some of us are going to Moab. Put some dates on, we'll talk.

Speaking of Moab, let me know if you want to get together for a room at Silver Sage Motel. I got one double room reserved. Anybody want to go with me on that trip? Pete? Dave? I can sure use some company. It's gonna be a long trip.


Later,

[Edited by Andre Hryn on 12-26-2000 at 09:36 AM]

Guys,

It's good to talk with all of you again. I'll try to answer all the questions...

Matt - I still haven't scanned the pictures (I actually have to find them again). I still have your address, and I will try to get them out to you.

Andre - I would love to go to Moab this May, but I won't have the right setup or the money to finance that trip. at least I don't think I will. I am back in the Chicago area, but things will be pretty hectic for me for a while. I have to locate employment (thank you to all that are giving me options, I really appreciate it), and I am moving sometime in January. I will still be in the Chicago area, but I am not sure yet where I will be.

Cam - I'll email you a resume. I'm not a programmer, looking more for business analyst type. Requirements gathering, making sure the users and technical people are on the same page, stuff like that.

Frank, Riff, Scott (and any other personalities that are in that person that we don't yet know about) - What is the web site for your placement company?

Kampy and Ann(e) - Not sure if it has an e or not. - How is everything? I saw that you are going to Moab. Have fun. You'll finally be able to use the winch in a wheelin' setting, if you haven't already.

Pete - I wanted to thank you for getting my truck taken care of so quickly. I never did get to say thanks. I hope that everything worked out ok with yours as well.

I hope that I didn't forget anyone. I would be up for a Spring run. Maybe we can look for something up here, for a little change of scenary (sp?). Kampy, you're out near Galena aren't you? Have you heard of any spots out that way?

Also, I like that we have a sort of central thread to converse on. It's almost getting to the point where we will have to ask Rick if there can be groups for each region in the Serious Explorations area, (i.e. Serious North Explorations, Serious South Explorations, Serious Midwest Explorations, etc.)

Keep in touch, my new email address is wiu_sig@hotmail.com, in case you wanted to email me directly.

Later,

Dave

Right.....So this is the down low from my end...I may be crazy but I am looking for a job at school to allow me to get gears and lockers installed come the beginning of summer....so on that note...I'd love to make a run....But maybe something different? Kinda like a mini-vacation...I bet this is out of everyone's reach since you are all goin to Moab...I am out...The parent's say I can't go since I have no stable income now, and I owe them quite a bit (mall parking lot offroading) So, I was thinkin some sorta big off road spot in the local surrounding states, no more than 2 states away.....Who knows....just a thought.... Dave, as for my truck, it looks nothing better than a bit cleaner than when it did before....Oh well, I guess everyone must get a war wound on the truck at some point....But I need some sleep everybody...and to all, a late Merry Christmas and a happy new year!
Pete

well, pete...there is always Tellico (probably too far away, as it is in NC) and land between the lakes (KY), or that park in Missouri, or the dunes in Michigan, or the Pipeline in wisconsin. After Moab, i am pseudo planning a trip to tellico this summer too. but i need a winch first. or thats what i hear....

Dave my company isn't exactly a placement service. we are more of a technology provider. (ie Wide and locacl area network instalation, administration, custom programing/webdevelopment, and a consulting division) The website is http://www.stltechpartners.com . Give it a look, and send in your resume.

heh heh heh...i just test drove today a new pull rig!! haha!! a 95 dodge 3500 dually w\ a cummins turbo diesel!! WOO HOO!!! after i test drove it, i turned in a loan app!! well see what comes of that!!! sorry...i had to tell someone!!

What are ya pulling, a house?

hahaha....soon to be!!! I JUST GOT LOAN APPROVAL!!! ITS MINE!!! WOO HOOO!!!!! i will pick it up on thursday!!!

Just a quick note to you guys. The computer is dead. Wont be on for a few days, no email no nothing. Oh well, Later.

Hey Riff, did you get it? How is it? Come on, comments please. You're still gonna trailer your baby west?
I'm still waiting now for all the snow to melt. My trip to OKC is imminent. Got to go and pick up that toy, yeah, I know Riff, it's been like four months already that I've been trying to do it. Well, spring, spring, spring.........

Later,

On that note Kampy, no e-mail so you probably din't get my message. Don't worry about the lift then. We will figure everything when the time comes.

As far as locker goes, well I might give it a few thoughts before making my mind.


Later,

OOH YEAH!!! this Ram ROCKS!!!! i just need to get a big ass hitch now....then it will be all set!!!

For Illinois: Cam? What about me? Can I join?

For Moab: Kampy and I are going to be leaving the morning of the 16th, and taking the drive in 2 days. We wanted to get there for Fridays run, so we could hit the famouse Double Whammy and Golden Crack. So we should be getting the sometime around 10 on Thursday night. Im pulling him and me on a trailer, so thats why we're heading together. We will hopefully stop in Oakley, KS to sleep. From there its about a 10 hour drive to Moab. Then we will be leaving monday morning, and just probably reversing the trip. But we may drive further than Oakley on the way home. Anyone interested in a convoy? Keep in mind, though, that im gonna have to drive a little different through the mountains, because im hauling close to 11000 lbs. Anybody else want to run with us?

We're back up again, Andre, got the email tonight when I got the new comp hooked up.

Scott, we need to talk about this trip to moab. Email me and set up a time for this weekend.

Riff and Kampy, I'm in for the convoy. You guys did know I was going right? I was planning on leaving the same day(16th) to be there buy thurs night. I plan to stay thru the weekend and leave tuesday, that is unless there aren't any runs set up for Monday. If not, I'm leaving Mon morning.

[Edited by 2001ExpSport on 01-08-2001 at 06:17 PM]

yeah, matt....we didn't forget about you, i just 1) figured you would want to go faster than i can go, and 2) just wanted to make sure tom knew what we were doing.

Kampy...i may be up around that area this weekend, anyway...but ill let you know for sure...

It might be nice to drive together although I might take I-80 too. I'll have to look closely at my map.

Later,

Im going to be up in the chicago-land area this weekend. I am delivering some tires to pete on saturday, and was thinking maybe of just a lunch get together or somthing. I know its kind of late notice, but would anybody be interested that? any place is good for me, i like driving...especially my pull rig now!! lol....

anyway...if its too short of notice thats cool too, but just holler out if anyone wants to meet up.

Hey I'm there just somebody name a place and a time and you can expect me there!

O.k. I have read this thread from beginning to end and I want to go to ATTica! I have a 98 Sport 2WD stock right now. I will hopefully be getting a torsion twist and warrior shacle job done here in the next month or two. I don't have big tires(Dayton Timberland A/Ts on stock 15" rims). Will I be able to go to Attica and have fun?

It might be pretty dificult wheeling in a 2WD truck there. Most of the trails require not only a 4WD but also a lift, bigger tires and lockers. A winch is a plus. Attica is not just a flat open field. It's hills, sand, water, mud, trees, rocks and a shitload of other very interesting things. It's fun, but to enjoy it you need a set of nice "wheels". Rich (RichSport94) went to Attica but only as a passenger since he owns a 2WD truck. You're always welcome to join one of us on any of the runs but as far as taking your truck there, I would advise not to.

Just my opinion.

Looks like I am going to the Ford dealer tomarrow and see if I can get a trade in.

That's the spirit Splash!!!

Lately someone had mentioned that Ford is giving Explorers away now. Well, Almost. Prices on used ones are pretty good plus they're offering low interest like around 4.9% or something. I'll probably go and check it tomorrow. This might be a good time to buy a daily driver.


Later,

Well, after two very disapointing days at the dealers, I refuse to trade my 98 Sport witch is loaded except for leather and 4WD, for a 97 Sport with nothing but 4WD and power windows and 45k to boot. That is the best deal I could get.
Here is where the wife comes in. She gives me her 99 XLT 4WD SOHC and says she will take the sport and I can do anything I want to it as long as she can still get in it. Aren't wives great sometimes.

sweet!! so now all you do is keep a ladder with you at all times!!!!

Yea, thats what I told her and she just gave me a "look"(if your married you know it). Well, the hard part is over I have a 4WD. Now...
I was planning on putting a lift on my Sport and I had decided on the torsion twist and I was trying to decide on the warrior shackles or the add-a-leaf or maybe both. Money is a big issue and I don't want a monster Explorer that my wife can't get into. I want to be able to get it dirty and have fun at the same time, but I'm not looking to climb any mountains. I guess what it comes down to is I want to be able to go to Attica with you guys and keep up. Can someone tell me in plain english what I need to do to my Explorer(lift, hooks, light etc.) Thanks

So, Splash wants to run at Attica eh? Well, right on! With money being a simple issue, I believe you can do either the shackles or add-a-leaf and the torsion twist. Add a body lift on that and you should be able to comfortably get a set of BFG 32x11.5 MT's on your truck. Toss on some tow hooks front and rear, and you're set to rip up Attica with us. Now, this is all commin from a guy who owns a pre 95 explorer...So I could be wrong....someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think I'm pretty close....Just an idea...Can't wait to see ya out there...that is if my truck stays in one piece to make it out there myself :)
Pete

I'm married and I know what the "look" is all about. Get as much lift as the budget allows for and get the tallest tires that will fit without interference. That will have to be good enough. Get rid of any plastic hanging off the bottom or Attica will do it for you, no charge.

Must haves: tow hooks front and back, so we can get your stuck butt out, and a cb so we can make fun of you, and double check the full coverage insurance and deductibles. That should cover it till the bug bites. We all look forward to running with you.

Pete, the truck will be fine if you don't let your mom keep driving it!

So, Splash! welcome to the Big World of Off Roading!!!!!!!!!!
and yeah! wifes are great. Mine complains a lot every time she gets into my rig but she does it just to tease me. Kids love it though.
Pete covered the mods for you so let me just add what's coming later. He mentioned a body lift, looks like Matt is working on one himself (he's the one with the 2001 Sport) so look for a big write up on the install. That and torsion twist plus add-a-leaf and/or warrior shackles is probably all you can do for almost nothing. Guys covered everything else. After that and your maiden trip to Attica I can assure you that you'd be itching for more!! Lockers and gears is what's next then and possibly a winch, brush guard and more lights and we can go on and on. Crazy world. Don't ever count what you spent on your rig though. It won't make your wife happy. Care to join us for a get together in February? We'll be meeting at Hooters. Plenty of rigs/mods/pretty women,,,,,,,,,, what? o yeah and fun! We might even discuss our Attica opener.

Good luck!

Thank you Todd....I'm still remembering that from last time....Now it's parked in the back of the garage...so I should be fine....How's yout straight axle comming? And in summer, is it possible for me to inquire on some of you skills for something along the lines of lockers and gears?
Thanks
Pete

Alright, a get-to-gether in February would be great. I live in Round Lake Beach witch is a North North West suburb of Chi-town (20 min strait west of the Great Lakes Naval Training Center. So all I would need is directions. I am going to ask my wife if we can afford the shackles this month so that I can get them put on. If she says yea, all I have to do is find a warm garage to put them and the twist on.
Next, everyone is talking about new tires or big tires. That is really going to be out of my budget for a while, so I'm wondering... my Sport has 245/75 R15 Dayton Timberlines and my wifes has 245/75 R15 Bridgestone Duellers (both are ATs). Which would be the better tire to have on untill I can afford BFGs?
Lastly, were would I mount tow hooks at? I saw some in the Performance Products cataloge that look good, but I have no idea where to mount them.

Splash....In my opinion, the Bridgstones would be better and someone will get ya directions to our Feb get together.....There, you can check out in person how we've got or tow hooks mounted...and how we lift our trucks too friggin high, etc! Can't wait to see ya there! Check out the thread "Who lives in Illinois?" That's got the info!
Pete

Splash, if you search the archives you'll find more info than you need on everything, including tow hooks. The ones I bought were pure GM product that usually goes on their trucks. Check my web site for info, write-up and pictures on these. Also, tires are not that big of a deal. Watch For Sale or Trade forum for some great deals. Riffman just sold his set of 31X10.5 BFG's for $250.00 including rims!!!!!! You'll know all the tricks after you've been here for a while.

Good luck! See you at "The Gathering".

OK, I am siting here looking at all of the Attica pictures because I am putting a screensaver together and I am thinking,"This looks like so much fun!" Then I start looking at the trails and the Explorers and I start thinking "Can I hang?". The way money is flowing around here I am only going to be able to get the shackles next month and from there who knows. I am looking for a second job, but things are tight around here. I want to go to Attica, but I'm worried. I know I will not be able to afford new tires for a while, so that means I am going to have to run with the Bridgestone Duellers that are on it. All you guys have BFGs and I don't want to be the one that every one else gets to take turns pulling my butt out. Any $.02?

Maybe ya can work some deals with Matt 2001ExpSport....he may have some used tires available....They show the worst parts too...I've seen stock explorers go out there...but they get damage..with 1-2in of lift and 31's you'll be just fine!
Pete

hey Splash, do you think that all of us were already prepared when we went to Attica? not really. First time I went there off roading all I had on my rig were bigger tires. Dave was there with us twice in his complete "stock" truck. You might not be able to do a lot but look at Matt; all he's got on his 2001 Sport is torsion twist in the front and if I remember correctly add-a-leaf in a back and bigger tires and he went through Green trail with no big time problems. We all go crazy with mods after each run but that's simply because we want to do more. Everyone does it though whenever there's some extra money to spend. We are in for a while so don't try to get it all at once. It's a never ending story. And don't worry, there's nothing wrong with getting your ass out of a hole. Last time we went there every one of us needed that sooner or later. We were actually pulling each other through that part of the trail. Just be there and we'll figure everything there.

Darn, Darn, Darn twist my arm why don't you... I should have the torsion twist and shackles by the second or third week in february(I'm shooting for before Hooters). The next thing I think is the tow hooks and then a Safari Bar. Mean while I am making a "Run Kit" based on the list on this web page. Off this subject, my wife wants to know if anyone else is going to bring there families to the Hooters get together.

Hey, Fellow Illinoian here.

RFR2212, Gilson is right off Interstate 74 half way between Peoria and the Quad Cities. (Small town with a post office)

I'm sure you have heard of Galesburg.

I am in Tuscola, IL now. That is just south of Champaign.

Anyway, good to see there are many other explorers around. I would love to get together and try out the new lift and meats.

Big Dave, I went to WIU as well. Are you still down there?

hmmm...is it deja vu, or have we talked about this before...hehe

don, right? how do you like nash bridges...hehehehe...ok...anyway..

im just north of you in bloomington. actually my sis and bro-in-law just got their house there not too long ago. who knows maybe ill see ya around.

you gonna make it to the Hooters meet in feb?

Just thought I'd add, Dave's graduated from WIU, but I actually am currently attending WIU. So, I'm here out in the boonies too!
Pete

Oh DON that rings a bell.

Sorry I could not remember which thread that was. It seems like we were talking with someone from Arizona???

I went to Moab once...mountain biking. That place is the coolest. Now that I have a truck I can't wait to go back.

Hopefully, we will get to see some good pictures this week of the "MECCA" of mountain biking and 4X4.

Guys, just wanted to give you a heads up, I consolidated the pics from attica today and got rid of the bad, duplicate, and fuzzy out of focus pictures. If you had your links to my page they won't work anymore.

On that note, I have been working on screensavers for for each of the runs on the webpage with Rick's blessing. I have 13 done and am just waiting on the Truckhaven 2001 pics to do that one. I have been working on the "Attack on Attica" screensaver and I just want to make sure you guys don't mind if I use your pics. Most of the pics are coming from Kampy's pic page, but if you have some you want added just send them to Brian.Owens@cnet.navy.mil and I will put them in. The screensavers are going to be in zip and exe format. I can also put them on disk and if I get them done in time I can make a couple copies and bring them to the Hooters Run. Sound good? Just to let you know all these are free.

Sweet!! sure, you can use my truck, and my ugly ass...hehe

Brian, jump over to this site too if you need any more pictures. Andre's Explorer pages (http://www.geocities.com/andre_hryn/Explorer)

Pages updated and links fixed............... for now at least.
Fire away!

[Edited by Andre Hryn on 01-21-2001 at 10:29 PM]

You are welcome to use mine as well Splash, click on the "Matt's Truck" link.

OK, I have four screensavers make. One for each of the runs and a big one that features all three runs. The big one isthe one that I am figuring everyone will want is 21mg with 132 pictures. It will take 17 disks to make one set of instalation disks. So I am going to make a set and then mail it to who ever wants it. From there you can mail it on to the next person that wants it. I recomend sending addresses over e-mail instead of posting, but that is up to you. Who evers address I get first will be the one to start the chain. If you want your own set you will have to wait for a little while for me to buy some disks. I would try and e-mail the zip fle to people, but 21meg is more than my system can handle. Maybe by Hooters I will have two or three copies.

Wow! Matt! 3 inches and what a differnece now. One thing though. You're now driving without the front bumper? scary. If I were you I would definatelly call Duff and ask them to make some kind of pre-runner bumper right away. They are still working on their own design for a winch bumper. Anyway, looks good. Brian, I sent you my address. I can also drop disks over so you can make another copy. One thing though. Let me know where I can dowload the small ones from or just simply e-mail those to me one by one. OK?

Later,

Why is that scarey? It.s not likre I plan to hit somebody and if I do, my truck will be wrecked anyway so waht's the difference?

Gee Matt, what a way to look at it ;)
Pete

Then again, if you are looking at it from the other person's standpoint, then I guess I could see how it would be scarey. It's sorta like getting creamed by a forklift.

heh heh heh....

no bumper? goo?

Ya, LOL, just the front facia. Bumper is in the garage.

Mounted the fogs today though.

Genious...I'll leave the bumper off, put the cover on, and throw the fog lights in....Matt, are ya sure ya arent goin at it backwards?
Pete

It's hard to explain, but yes.

[Edited by 2001ExpSport on 01-22-2001 at 09:35 PM]

I see, it's cool, just putting your quote to justice?
Pete

and that's what I meant. Scary to others and you're right about that fork lift thing. The way it looks now anyway if you rearend someone you'll be on top of them anyway, well, unless it's a semi........ (knock, knock) better not!

just think about the possibilities now Matt simply based on what you "did" without that lift!!!

Later,

Ya man, I am ready to roll....

Now this thread brings a tear to my eye... Without this one I would still be a virgin to the world of off roading...

Also has sentimental value cause I started it about TWO YEARS AGO!!! Goo...has it been that long?


Dave

and that's basically how NoIEC was born....... our first run in Attica............ oh, boy, time flies when you're having fun.

Lata,

Does that mean my embership status in the NOIEC will get bumped up?

Probly not....since it seems ya aren't too heavily involved in most aspects.....
Pete

I read the last 2 pages of this thread and it felt like I entered the twilight zone. Here you all barely new eachother, and Brian was a total newbie. Now the guy wants to do a huge lift, and is obsessed, just like me and everyone else. I get(sniff) teary eyed thinking of how I went out on a limb to go wheelin with a bunch of guys I met online. Wether you liked it or not you all taught me a ton, not to mention got my ass home. I check in daily to see what is next , how Pete's swap is coming together, or what Andre is selling. I think the biggest boost was when Andre sent me an axle shaft not even a week before Attica and I got my truck together at the last minute, well sort of. You are a great group, and I think from what I have seen my truck can hang and bang a lot better( what a difference 4-6 inches makes)
I want to see if anyone wants to do the Apple Valley farms run on the 17th of Aug. About 2 hours from me, and if anyone wants to come to LaCrosse on Thurs night I can put em up for the night and we can go from there friday morning, wether you already know me or not, I love to wheel with all the guys I have met.
The site is www.rpm4x4.com

Well, if you go back all the way back to the beginning you'll see how it all started.... Dave was the guy that reached out to others from Illinois and soon we decided to go on a run. After Attica our apetites grew much bigger so we had another run and then winter interfeared with our plans. If you'd like, you can go back to my page and see the pix and read a bit about that first run......... my truck wasn't even close to what it is today.....the only mod I had on were bigger tires (street 31X10.5 Wranglers). Look where it all got me? thanks to all these guys I have loaded a few thousand dollars into my truck which otherwise could of been just another grocery getter.......

don't you love this?

Pete...you can't take everything so seriously...

so Dave? are you ready to hit some trails at the Badlands?

Noiec is GREAT! I have meet some very cool people off this site ( ricks site) and NOIEC. As soon as i get get my truck working right you can bet i will get my A$$ out on the trails again!

I am so mad i have not been able to make a run since Attica in June :mad:

so are we ready for a run on the 25th????? anybody interested?

Ya know the 26th is our meeting?

Come on Eric... this is going to be a nice easy trip. We are going with two stockers... we will be back in time for the meeting and we may even have a story or two...:D

to avoid any wasted time driving Saturday morning I'll be leaving Friday evening with a stop over in either Lafayette or Danville.......... for the night so I can start bright and early......... how about that gang???

we'll be coming back Saturday Eric so we shall make it to the meeting and I should have stickers by then......

I am thinking about going to Ludington for the dunes over labor day weekend with the JewelBagger. I have family up there. Also, I am getting bored running the same trail everytime knowing exactly where I am going to get stuck. Now if one of you guys wants to let me drive one of your machines that is built up, that would be another story altogether. I would even pay your offroading fees for the day at the badlands. But I don't see that happening. I am thinking that we can have the meeting at the Forest Preserve near my house. Bring what you want to grill, we can sit down, talk shop have a softball game or something.

Kick it off at about noon. The Forest Preserve is on Chicago Ave just west of Thatcher Ave in River Forest. The entrance is on the North side of the street. (Right side if you are going away from the city if you are directionally challenged.) Let me know what everyone thinks about this. I may even be able to get a grill, but I think that they have the some there.

I will post this to the NOIEC board also.

Dave

OK........ we're gonna hit Badlands on Saturday, run trails we had run so many times (wink, wink Dave) and come back home later in the evening so we can make it to the meeting on Sunday........... and the meeting takes place in South Elgin as far as I can remember........ so be there guys.............. either you choose to join us for the run or for the meeting.....


See you there!

The meeting is taking place at the Elk Grove Forest Preserve. I will post maps to the exact location on the NOIEC message board:

http://www.onandoffroad.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=253

:p

big dave your thinking about coming? thats cool! so whens the next noiec meeting? 26th, i heard south elgin? thats where i live? or is it somewhere else

Click the link in my post above. That is a link to our message board. The meeting is in Elk Grove Village.

I thought it was South Elgin but it's not. Elk Grove Village on Higgins Rd. just east of 53, right???????
26th at 10:00 AM


later,

everyone get my email about the dunes?

I got it but it might be too much at the same time for me. My next one might be Ramsey event at the Badlands......

good luck!

:)

it is kinda like that xterra commercial where it hauls A$$ up that big sand hill. I think that they might've filmed that in the dunes, it looked awfully familiar.

I finally broke 250 posts and got my third explorer. I am so happy.... :)

I'm in westmont, just got my skyjacker leaf springs on. I'd love to try them out, but don't want to go alone. email me! Lets get a group together!
--Bob

Like I said before, Check out www.onandoffroad.com
They got the most IL wheelers, and that's where we chat at the most.
Pete

This week I am putting on my Rancho RS5000 and would like to give them a run after the add a leaf and tt.

well, Dave, Pete, Eric, Scott....... others...... any plans for the near future? I might be back to stock but I'm not out!

Later,
:bounce:

Back to stock? :eek: Where the hell have I been? Where is your truck? Don’t tell me after all that work you sold it? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Cameron
Where the hell have I been:rolleyes:

ERIC IS ALIVE!!!
Andre' sold his X to Pete and Pete sold his to Jon(cableguy)...

yeah, that's right! I own a 98 Sport now (which is driven by my wife) and have bought myself a 98 Audi A4 Quattro Avant...... (that's a four wheel drive - I can't live without 4X4).

Soon, I'll start at the 98 Sport, little by little I'll just upgrade it to where it's suppose to be straight out of the factory.
15X8 rims and 31" tires, new set of rear leaf springs (real ones in place of the worthless mono leaf), add-a-leaf, TT and new set of shocks.......... my wife wants me to do it......... this truck bounces way too much.....sometimes driving on 72 going west of Barrington Rd. gives my a sick stomach. Also I want it to be more stable. Once on the highway I almost flipped it when a cabbie cut me off........ I was very close then to loosing it. Good thing I replaced Firestones.......

Yeah, I'm still around.....

Cool. I just bought a 4-wheel drive car too. It’s a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4. That’s right ladies, 300-horse power twin turbocharged all wheel drive, all wheel steering, active suspension, active aerodynamics and a big insurance tab! But I love it.

http://www.ericcameron.com/3000GT_VR-4realsmall.jpg


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

we just simply can't stay away from 4 wheel drive vehicles.......

got to get some pix of mine.....

:rolleyes: