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XLimited97X
09-16-2004, 03:39 PM
Hey guys I just got anuff money together to get some rims for my explorer. I have a 97 4 door limited AWD explorer and I would like to get some 22s for it. But i don't want to make any modifactions to the truck like rasing it or something to get them to fit. What size 22 would fit and what tire size do I need. Also what kind of offset and bolt pattern too. Thanks in advance and does anyboby have any 22s you would recommend.

Good Times
09-16-2004, 04:42 PM
I wouldn't recommend 22s personally, here's my reasons:
-Although you'll love looking at them and be thinking to yourself and telling everyone, "yeah I got 22s on my X" you'll be driving around on rubberband tires making your riding experience shitty.
-With 22s, you'll have more than likely chance a problem with clearance issues, whether it be hitting off you body cause your wheels stick out to far, hitting off your frame when you turn your wheel, etc.

If you still want 22s then I would look up this website www.superbuytires.com they'll show you what will fit your X.

spindlecone
09-16-2004, 04:47 PM
IMO 22s on an Ex are fuggly, and as GTs says, your ride will be absolute S$$t

XLimited97X
09-19-2004, 02:07 PM
Hey guys I found some rims that i really like but i don't know if they will fit and is the offset ok?
22x9.5 offset +15 bolt pattern 5x114.3(4.50) & 5 x 120.65

Jason@Flashtech
10-05-2004, 06:44 AM
I have 22's on my explorer, and the ride isn't all that bad

I HAVE replaced my shocks, however

The BIGGEST tire size you can fit without rubbing is a 265/35/22 35 is the biggest tire you can have safely, and 265 is the safest width

You need 5 lug rims

22 by 9.5 is where i am at.

I have had mine on for a year and no problems, the ride isn't nearly as bad as everyone thinks. Granted, it isn't the same from 15's to 22's, but It's still bearable. Depends on whether you're willing to sacrifice looks for ride.

BeauJ
10-05-2004, 04:44 PM
Mine was on 22" inch Limited 208's for about 2 months over a year ago. I had mine on Dunlop 285/30 series tires. Ride wasn't THAT bad, i know from experience. But not much over 18" is going to be as good as a 15" wheel. Personally, I say do what you like. I was into big rims back them, but grew out of the negative attention they got me.

XLimited97X
10-05-2004, 07:26 PM
Thanks. I ended up getting some RVM Impastos 22s. There 22x9.5. I'm looking for some tires to rap them in. I'll take your advice and go with some 265/35/22 but which tires should i get. Its either the Pirelli Scorpion Zeros-$1108, Kumho Ecstas-$968, or Hankook Ventus-$1020. All prices include shipping and what not. Ryan

BeauJ
10-05-2004, 07:30 PM
I've had both Hankook and Pirellis, both good quality. But Kumhos were on my ex's car and they wore out rather quickly.

spindlecone
10-05-2004, 07:36 PM
Chopin
What was your exs car? got Kumhos on my wifes beemer M6, when I drive the car, the rears wear quickly, maybe not the tire:)

BeauJ
10-05-2004, 07:51 PM
She drove a turbo civic with 17s. They last maybe 15 grand, not very high for a smaller rim on aftermarket tires. My 20s eat up a set im about 15-20 grand

XLimited97X
10-05-2004, 08:49 PM
So should i go w/ Pirellis?

Jason@Flashtech
10-06-2004, 01:30 AM
I have Pirelli Scorpion Zero 265/35/22 tires. Very pleased with them

Check out my truck

http://www.midwest-xplorers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=505

My buddy has kuhmo's, and they wear a bit faster, but the main issue i didn't like is they appear to me more of a car tire. The pirelli's are classier and (in my opinion) FOR an suv or truck

XLimited97X
10-06-2004, 05:09 PM
Yeah I agree, the Pirellis look real sweet. I think i'll be going with the Pirellis. Hey plurr this might sound stupid but how did you get the pin stripe off? I was thinking about just pulling it off myself.

draft
10-06-2004, 05:40 PM
RVM is an eBay brand, FYI. People don't even consider quality anymore. :|

Jason@Flashtech
10-06-2004, 08:03 PM
well a hairdryer, WD40 and patience will do it. it took me about 20 minutes to do though.

spray WD40 on stripe. use hairdryer to heat. then, peal one piece at a time.
Eventually, you may be able to heat ahead of yourself (partner) And vuala! It peals right off!

Looks cool doesn't it?

XLimited97X
10-06-2004, 11:16 PM
Yeah it looks real nice. I like the look alot.

Jason@Flashtech
10-07-2004, 03:44 PM
It's an easy "mod" if you can even call it that.
To me, it seemed to join the top and bottom of my explorer halfs nicely. Before it "seperated it" to my eyes, hard to explain but once it's off you will see.

I think it gives a cleaner appearance.
I cringe to think people bring their truck to a body shop to have them remove it!!!
$$$ i dont have!

savant
10-08-2004, 10:52 AM
not to pick nits, but $1000 on tires every 20k miles versus paying someone to remove a pinstripe? hehe. It's just funny that you would baulk at one, but not the other. :P

riverst
10-08-2004, 04:05 PM
Dont Go With 22's. The Ride Quality Sucks! Trust Me On This One. I Ride To Work With A Friend Who Have 22's On A Tahoe And All I Do Is Feel Bumps. Plus The Cost To Maintain The Tire Life Every Year Is Just Insane. Go With 20's With A 275/45 Tire. You Wount Be Mad. Plus 20's Have More Tires On Sale And It Wont Hurt Your Pocket That Bad.

mexi
10-09-2004, 01:19 PM
i have 22" wasnt that much diff in the ride with the 20" .........i run the toyo proxes 265-40-22 and no rubbing at all and rides fine .........22" dont look like shit on explorers hater

XLimited97X
10-09-2004, 11:28 PM
Really mexi no rubbing at all with 265/40/22. And you have it on your 98 x. I'm going to have to look in to that.

mexi
10-10-2004, 01:30 AM
what you going to drive to my house and see .........i aint gots to lie to kick it

Jason@Flashtech
10-10-2004, 04:30 AM
I can't remember who said to get 275 tires but i do know i wouldn't recommend that.

My ride with 22's is fine, much better than i expected.

Also, 275 rubs. 265 doesn't. Holds true with my 1995 explorer AND my buddies 1999 explorer.

expo5.0
10-10-2004, 04:42 AM
if you don't have 22s and haven't put them on your personal truck your just a hater if you rip on them.

if i were ever going to go back to chrome rims they would be 22" or bigger

the ride isn't that bad, and 20" just looks small. a 20" rim these days is so commonplace they make you look like youi didn't have the $ to spring for the real deal.

get the 22s and 285/35. do the trimming you need to make them fit. I love the way they look tucking the 285s on an explorer.

I've driven a 99 sport with that set-up a few times.

Jason@Flashtech
10-10-2004, 05:25 AM
well said.

XLimited97X
10-10-2004, 09:27 AM
Yeh 22s are the way to go. I was thinking about 20s but there just too small. You got to go big. I should be putting on my 22s this friday just in time for homecoming! But I can fit 265/40/22 on my x with no mods and it won't rub or anything. Because more rubber the better so its a better ride and it will pertect the rims more. I still got time to cancel my order on the 265/35/22 Scorpions and get the 265/40/22 Proxes. Should I?

expo5.0
10-10-2004, 12:19 PM
265/40 for sure among those choices

mexi
10-10-2004, 01:15 PM
if you don't have 22s and haven't put them on your personal truck your just a hater if you rip on them.
that is so true kinda like the guys that say that they love there stock wheels and say "big wheels look dumb on the X's" and yeah 265-40 is the tire to run

Robb
10-10-2004, 01:31 PM
that is so true kinda like the guys that say that they love there stock wheels and say "big wheels look dumb on the X's"
So, you feel that others can't have their own opinions?

mexi
10-10-2004, 02:02 PM
yeah thats what i said :rolleyes: no but when someone says they want 22" and you get all the " 22" are ugly comments" that are not needed you dont see me and others with 22" going and ripping on the lifted guy do you? i think everyone is intitled to their opinion but he asked for tire size not if you or whoever like them. i just get tired when 22" are being consider all the bs said about them like they rub and usually said by people who have never run them and ride stock like they are and hate on them and when people show their trucks lifted with big tires and all "not what i would do to an X" but it still looks good and i give their props not say "hey big tires suck big wheels rule" i think they look good just like i think mine does

mexi
10-10-2004, 03:24 PM
and heres some pics of my X (xlimited97x)http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/703997

Robb
10-10-2004, 04:06 PM
yeah thats what i said :rolleyes: no but when someone says they want 22" and you get all the " 22" are ugly comments" that are not needed you dont see me and others with 22" going and ripping on the lifted guy do you? i think everyone is intitled to their opinion but he asked for tire size not if you or whoever like them. i just get tired when 22" are being consider all the bs said about them like they rub and usually said by people who have never run them and ride stock like they are and hate on them and when people show their trucks lifted with big tires and all "not what i would do to an X" but it still looks good and i give their props not say "hey big tires suck big wheels rule" i think they look good just like i think mine does
easy on the eye rolling you havent been here long enough to be a smartass your comment didnt go into lifted guys against street guys in fact this whole thread hasnt gone into that arena until you just brought it up and i won't go there either your comment was simply that if you dont have big wheels on your truck (being that your statement was a continuation of expo's statement that you quoted) you cant have/state an opinion about big wheels well that is just not so your second comment about this thread being the incorrect place to state that opinion is correct this thread is about what tire size not whether you like that size wheel or not but this is the tire and wheel forum not a sport truck forum so members are able to express their opinions openly about big wheels in a more suitable thread in this forum

*it is a pita to read with no punctuation isn't it?

But I won't debate the matter any further, and will let the thread try to get back on topic. I will even go as far as to say that I simply misunderstood your post, and simply asked a question as to what you meant. My mistake. :)

mexi
10-10-2004, 04:36 PM
What I meant on what part? I didnt put street guys against lifted guys. I was just making a point that we all do different things to are X, and the point is that just cause its not what i would do doesnt make it ugly. Ill be the first to say that there are some nice ass lifted X's here. What are you an english teacher? Find something else to worry about. I guess i need 8000+ post to be a smartass huh? By the way, what is a "pita"? Hope my punctuation was correct. Ill work on my paragraph form later.

spindlecone
10-10-2004, 04:43 PM
PITA= Pain in the A$$

j602
10-10-2004, 04:49 PM
LMAO, Robb you're the man. Takin' care of business.

mexi
10-10-2004, 04:50 PM
:o

expo5.0
10-10-2004, 04:50 PM
the point is- IF your going to get some chrome "bling bling" style wheels going smaller than 22" just makes you look like a wannabe.

no one is against smaller wheels (obviously not me) just pointing out the facts about how 20" wheels are perceived.

mexi
10-10-2004, 04:56 PM
the point is- IF your going to get some chrome "bling bling" style wheels going smaller than 22" just makes you look like a wannabe.

no one is against smaller wheels (obviously not me) just pointing out the facts about how 20" wheels are perceived.exactly im not hating on anyone. sport ,lifted, street they all have the look they are going for.you just need to pick the wheel that fit your look .and dont hate on the ones that dont have the same look as you. ill try to get back on topic now

expo5.0
10-10-2004, 05:02 PM
my question is- is there a 22" combination where you could run the narrower wheel and tire up front and a wider combo in the rear somewhat similar ot what i do?

i just can't stand the look of narrow tires on the rear of a custom vehicle. would be really cool to run the 285/35/22s in the rear and some narrower (i'm not sure what all sizes are available) tires up front which would really help to make it drive well. I know in my experience its best to keep the front width to 265 or less, but 255 is my favorite by far. I ran 275s up front on my truck at one point and hated the feel when moving slowly etc. and the 285s on the 22s i've driven before were pretty frustrating as well.

I'd want a 255/45/22 up front and a 285/35/22 in the back

or ideally (if i ever decide to move up) i'd want to go to a skinnier 22 up front and a 305 width 24" in the back.

Jason@Flashtech
10-10-2004, 05:13 PM
Expo, yeah the wider tires are pretty cool. I'll try to get a pic of my wheels from the back so you can see the width well. You can REALLY tell the difference.

As far as 285, in my opinion it sticks out of the wheel wells too much. On the other hand, i haven't seen 285's on an explorer, but my 265's stick out quite a bit. Anyway, good idea with 255 in front and 285 in back. (your truck is lookin good btw)

Mexi - Most of the people on this forum have been here for years and don't take lightly to people starting stuff like that. Just try to leave it alone or you'll find yourself wanting to leave the forum quickly. ITS LIKE AN ALLIANCE! Robb - layin the smack down!

Back to the original topic. If you can fit 265/40/22's on your truck then that would be the route to take. I can't fit them however.

Good luck, hope you like the finished product! :thumbsup:

expo5.0
10-10-2004, 05:19 PM
its all about the backspacing-

this coiuld be done as easily with 22s as on my truck with 285s

BeauJ
10-10-2004, 08:20 PM
So because I have 20s, and able (have money) to buy 22s or 23s I'm a wannabee? I've had 22s, they were rather heavy and had brake problem issues, that's why I sold them. Just because the price of 20s has dropped doesn't mean that you're being a poser by having them. 20s aren't that damn small either, just rims have gotten ridicuously big. I mean 28-30 inch wheels with 12" rotors is just crazy.

expo5.0
10-10-2004, 09:07 PM
i understand why you may not have them, and am not saying your a poser. just that it appears you didn't have the money for 22s. thats the first thought i have when i see a truck with chrome 20s on it.

Good Times
10-11-2004, 01:52 AM
the point is- IF your going to get some chrome "bling bling" style wheels going smaller than 22" just makes you look like a wannabe.

no one is against smaller wheels (obviously not me) just pointing out the facts about how 20" wheels are perceived.

Is this with any kind of truck?

I think it all depends on the car though. If you rolling in a s-10, ranger, etc., even if you have the money for 22s, I don't think you're a wannabee. Some cars weren't made to fit wheels larger then 20s and don't look good (IMO) with something bigger. Smaller cars I'd say 20s or smaller, mid size 20s-22s, full size 22s-24s (anything larger then, in my opinion you're starting to look like you got wagon wheels on)

I think on an X you can go either way and still look good and not look like a wannabee.

Good Times
10-11-2004, 01:54 AM
By the way expo5.0 I've been trying to reach you through your pm but you mailbox is full. I got a question about your screen in the front.

mexi
10-11-2004, 02:04 AM
i think 20" look good to like drafts and hartmans. some times i wish i had 20" again. better MPG :(

expo5.0
10-11-2004, 12:19 PM
i'll erase a bunch of pms

I dont feel that for every vehicle. but anything bigger than an s10 needs bigger than 22s, and we've all seen 22s on s10s that lay frame plenty of times at this point (i know there were 4 at the last show i attended) so its beginning ot be questionable on those if you need 22s to pull off the look or not.

i'm not saying that the trucks on 20s don't look good, they do. I'm just saying that 22s would have been preferred.

Saleen_SR71
12-19-2004, 10:27 AM
now... would the 22's rub if the Ex was lowered? i was thinking of bagging my Ex and making it sit as low as possible, and ride low... my friend suggested i get 285/25's but i dont think that would give my Ex the stance i wanted... it might because id be running smaller tire, but then it might not because the rim is a little too big, i want my car to look nice, and at the same time i want to still have similar performance.

im serriously leaning toward 20's because ive found a pair i like, plus i have lots of tire to play with (when i lower the car more) compared to a 22's

*plus i drive my SUV just like it was a car... i dont think 22's would let me do that*

suggestions?