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Blee1099
01-29-2005, 02:00 AM
There have been some recent breaks in my neighborhood and have been considering some home security systems. Anyone work with any products? I have a walkout basement that is fully finished with a sliding glass door and a kitchen walkout with a sliding glass door, these are definately a weakpoint. All of my exterior doors except for the glass doors have deadbolts. Is assume having a motion detector in the major sections of the house are needed on the main floor & possibly some sort of detection for entry thru the window. I'm looking for more of stealth or flush detection devices that won't stand out. I've looked at systems thru ADT & other companies. Thinking of considerring a alarm system that I can customize and install myself. Anyone know if there are any in existance that just need some sort of monitoring from a 24 hour service. Also considerring of putting in detection device or something for the shed after having a break-in about 4 months to it.

dreamr
01-29-2005, 02:09 AM
My home security?

I am a extremely light sleeper with a 20 gauge shotgun above the bed and 5 rounds of OO buckshot.

Blee1099
01-29-2005, 02:15 AM
My home security?

I am a extremely light sleeper with a 20 gauge shotgun above the bed and 5 rounds of OO buckshot.

So am I but how about when no one is home.. Someone tried to break in earlier yesterday, they broke one glass pane of the sliding glass door but must have been spooked or something cause he didn't break the second pane. I definately need to considering a system since during the day, no one is home.

section525
01-29-2005, 02:59 AM
Someone tried to break in earlier yesterday, they broke one glass pane of the sliding glass door but must have been spooked or something cause he didn't break the second pane.

Holy! We're talking about your house, right?!?

I'm interested in this topic also. I don't want to wait until someone breaks in and steals all my stuff before doing something to prevent it. Luckily, I have two large dogs that look scary:

Blee1099
01-29-2005, 03:17 AM
Holy! We're talking about your house, right?!?

I'm interested in this topic also. I don't want to wait until someone breaks in and steals all my stuff before doing something to prevent it. Luckily, I have two large dogs that look scary:

yeah it my house. They tried but failed luckily.. The rear of my house faces some woods and overlooks some neighbors to the right. Yeah I had a Bullmastiff but unfortunately it died due to health issues. Been thinking of getting another one but trying to find a nice reputable breeder local is difficult not to mention the price they want for one. I guess I was lucky with my last one cause it was given to me after my old neighor couldn't keep it cause his kids were allergic to it.

aldive
01-29-2005, 07:14 AM
I had a house fire 8 years ago and it destroyed my home. After that I wanted a very elaborate fire alarm system.

I decided to install the fire alarm system combined with a security system,

My system does just about everything from all the common features such as bugged doors and windows, screen alarms, glass brake detectors, CO detectors,to a detector that alerts you when the washing machine overflows. I have heat detectors over my home theater and heat and CO as well as fire detectors in the garage. Special areas such as gun safes and document safes have special detectors.,

I can call the system from anywhere to alarm,it, deactivate it, or check its status.

After surviving a house fire, this system gives me great peace of mind.

This state of the art system cost me about 10k.

Good luck with your home protection.

Rick
01-29-2005, 03:00 PM
A good friend of mine just had his motorcycle stolen from his garage. They broke into the garage in broad daylight, busted into the house, found the keys for the bike and took off. The idiot forgot his backpack at the scene thought. Hopefully they'll be able to find a clue so they can catch the bastard.

Worst part, no full coverage insurance on the bike since the insurance was too expensive given the bikes current blue book value.

huskyfan23
01-29-2005, 03:16 PM
Outside is a Siberian Husky and German Shepherd. Inside is a fat Yellow (White) Lab. All have mean barks. No break-ins yet ;)

Blee1099
01-29-2005, 03:26 PM
Well I found out that they might have a suspect. From what I understand, a neighbor of mine installed a hidden camera inside his porch light. From what he told me, you can plainly see a suspect walking up to his house and poking around. Got a great shot of his face too. Anyways I found out that the inner glass on the sliding glass door is tempered but I still plan on installing a few door sensors & windows sensor plus the usual motion sensors.

RFR2212
01-29-2005, 04:43 PM
I've got my 26in pythons, and that's all I need brotha!

And if I'm dealing with more trash than I can handle, I've got a rocket launcher and a fierce chihuahua, that could suck the living bloood out of anyone it pleases.

And should any band of mercenary midgets attack, I'll unleash the green dino!

This is hardcore, extreme security system.

jgilbs
01-29-2005, 04:57 PM
Well I found out that they might have a suspect. From what I understand, a neighbor of mine installed a hidden camera inside his porch light. From what he told me, you can plainly see a suspect walking up to his house and poking around. Got a great shot of his face too. Anyways I found out that the inner glass on the sliding glass door is tempered but I still plan on installing a few door sensors & windows sensor plus the usual motion sensors.

tempered glass is the easiest type of glass to smash - take a small sharp object, smash it in a corner and the ENTIRE pane shatters into a million pieces. this isnt a security feature(now laminated glass, on the other hand is a b!tch to get into)

it sounds like your neighborhood is a very high risk - if I were you, I would do what your neighbor did, just hook a camera up to your computer (you can get a cheap camera here (http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=135&type=store) and a cheap TV card for your computer here (http://www.tigerdirect.com). Download some free motion sensitive recording software for your pc and you have surveilence for under $100.

Also, since you are near woods, I would have about 8-10 100W motion sensitive floodlights, on your house and in the trees FACING your house. If you use a "burgler bar" on your sliding door (basically a long piece of wood or metal, stuck in the door track so that the door cannot be opened) the only way to bypass this door would be to break the glass. if you have a security system, be sure to place a glass breakage sensor on this door. also, make sure there is a LOUD external alarm with the system. this should stop anyone stupid enough to break into a house when hes being illuminated by 10 floodlights. also, document all your attempts at security in case of break in, you can prove to the insurance company your security was not lax(maybe you can also get a discount on your premium)

Blee1099
01-29-2005, 05:24 PM
It may be laminated not sure.. You can definately see on the glass where someone tried to swing something to break it.

Silverblade
01-29-2005, 06:50 PM
I'm looking for more of stealth or flush detection devices that won't stand out.


Anyone can cut a steering wheel, isnt the point of the club that it is more of a deterent? If you have a stealth alarm then it is still asking to be broken into, wouldnt you want one of those big ugly stickers on your window?

RFR2212
01-29-2005, 07:04 PM
wouldnt you want one of those big ugly stickers on your window?

In a cars case, this can actually help the theives. Say Alpine has a sticker specific to their alarms, and the other brands were different. If they're a theif that know their stuff, this is nothing more than a help. If they want the car, they know what kind of alarm they will be dealing with.

However I would guess, this wouldn't hold as true for homes. If they saw a security sign, if they were smart enough to disable them, they would probly be looking at a very high end cliental where they could make off with more money or goods.

97BlackX5.0
01-29-2005, 08:35 PM
go to the local humane society shelter and get yourself a young dog for like 35 bucks... shots and everything... give it a good home and in turn he'll bark his head off whenever someone comes to your door... this is more than enough deterrent for most

jgilbs
01-29-2005, 08:40 PM
get a golden - theyre big dogs and theyre super loyal - youll always know if someone approaches your door. theyre also great with kids.

Bill Kemp
01-29-2005, 09:32 PM
Get some of the ADT type signs and put sensors where they can be seen from the outside. Make it so any dumb ass burgler can see you have an alarm system. This will stop 99% of those dorks.

Broccoli1
01-29-2005, 10:18 PM
Well ,this is where you'll hate me for my past but get a dog and put a door in for him to get in to the house as well as the back yard. As mentioned, the silent alarm doesn't prevent- it's pretty much a snatch and grab job and it won't stop a punk ass with nothing better to do than hit homes. You want it loud and louder.

Sorry to all- I cringe when I hear stories like these

Ed

CDW6212R
01-30-2005, 12:29 PM
A friend of mine builds homes in his spare time. He made a suggestion to me last year that was interesting.
Buy an installed system from a company that monitors the house. The initial cost is relatively low, and assuming you don't want to pay the indefinate monthly charge, drop the service after the minimum period. Good luck,
DonW

A Wise Guy
01-30-2005, 02:23 PM
If a thief wants in they are in. On my sliding glass door I have a dead bolt installed on the slider that goes into the top of the frame. Also, at the point where the door is open 4" I have a second hole for the dead bolt so I can lock the door open and get a breeze. One other thing that can be done is to put screws into the top of the sliding door frame so the door can't be lifted out of the track. Basically open your door and put in a screw tight enough so the door will pass it without hanging up on it. A few of these and your golden. But then again if all else fails refer back to my first sentence.

huskyfan23
01-30-2005, 06:08 PM
Always alert :D

X~FACTOR
01-31-2005, 06:07 PM
You need a steel swing door bar with double locks.

I have this with my kitchen glass sliding door. Like yours one glass pane was broken when I got the house. I replaced the whole thing. Cost about $780 at Home Depot.

SteveVB
02-01-2005, 07:55 PM
Ask about the laminated glass for replacement of the broken panels.

Make sure your insurance is up to date and you have documented everything just in case.

zekex2
02-02-2005, 03:23 AM
Think Rottwieler.

I never worry about unwanted company. I am on my second one and will never have any other breed of dog. My ADT system hasn't been used in seven years. The dog can here a cat walkinf across the street let alone the por Fed Ex guy that one got trapped in my front caurtyard. The Root just sat and watched him and the poor guy just froze up.