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Dallas Rollergirl Beat Down By Dallas Police (http://www.nukinfutz.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=2003&PN=1&TPN=1)

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Wow!

Wow is right!

I'm sure she likes having that 3rd picture on the internet too. Is she alright? What ever happened?

From what I was told she was simply getting a j-walking ticket and it escalated to felony assualting an officer charge and she got put in jail. The only details I have right now is that she has an attorney and is contacting the several witness's for a little help. Fox 4 news is suppose to air some live footage (rumor has it) tonight on the news here isn Dallas. Luckily for her she was in the most busy part of Deep Ellum and I can guarantee there to be several witness's.

Attitude + cops = that...

"But a cop stopped her to give her a ticket. Well, she gave some attitude, but went with it"...

"...she turned to see the person, took her hands off of the car, and the cop got
pissed. She gave attitude, I think he shoved her back on the car, so she stuggled back up"...

Moral of the story is don't give attitude to a 200lb guy with a gun and a badge and you most likely won't get roughed up. I hate it when cops screw up, but in this case her attitude seems to have got her in trouble.

He was easily over 200lb's. I've met the girl and that dood is way bigger than I am and I'm over 200lb's. From what I was told she was shoved back towards the car and since she was on skates they came out from under her and thats how her face was so jacked up. Apparently she went face first into the squad car. My little brother was down there and he said that it was way to aggressive for what was going on. Not just that but the cop's partner (female cop) never got out of the car until the other 6 cop cars decided to show up. I'm curious to see the footage on the news tonight to see how bad it really was.

These kinda stories and happenings awake old and much WILDER days of mine because now I want to Flip Off some cops....what a punk cop..200 plus pounds and kneeling on a skinny girls neck, pretending to be a tough guy...I hope he gets his AZZ in trouble.. :chug:

The shot that claims he is choking her... his hands are no where near her throat. It looks like he is trying to grab her hands so he can cuff her.

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The video should definately make the situation more clear... if it's a decent video.

Yeah, but look where his left knee is. Right on her throat!

Actually it's mainly across her face.

Well, it depends on how you are looking at it. :eek:

Rick-
To give you an idea of how big this girl is. Remember in Gilmer Brian's (Trckmagik) girlfriend Dina? Same size as her.

####### cops, like she is a real ####in threat. Un-####ing belivable.

I can only go by what I see and have read. She had an attitude. She's dressed in roller derby gear and is on a team that obviously considers themselves bad asses. 100 lbs or not she is probably solid as a rock... A chick like that could put up resistance and it would take MORE force to subdue her than she was exerting.

My wife has to physically restrain 3-5th graders nearly every week in her Special Ed behavioral disorder classroom. She comes home bruised, scratched and exausted even though she weighs 200lbs, is strong as an ox for a woman, and the kids she has to restrain are much smaller than her. The kids yell "you're hurting me" and her answer is well stop trying to kick, scratch, spit in my face, etc... and you won't get hurt.

Do you want her to get up and grab his gun? That's what he's worried about. He has a gun on his side. If he were to let her hands go she could easily grab it and use it against him. So he incapcitates her by basically sitting on her so he can get control of her hands. Cops have to think about that during every arrest.

I can completely understand that, but when she smashed her face on the car he may have wanted to take a different approach to the whole thing, maybe show some concern. Obviously if his partner didn't get out of the car then she couldn't have been to big of a threat.

I think its teetering on the line of Excessive Force....

All I'm saying is take a look at the fourth picture. Does she really look like a threat to you? Her face is all jacked up cuz he shoved her back at the car and she ended up falling face first into the car cuz her skates slid out from under her.

I might have sympathy if my wife didn't have to deal with out of control little shits who physically injure her all the time... If I read that she was standing there and obeying everything he said to the T I would have a different attitude. Her attitude towards the cops was mentioned twice in the article that was in her DEFENSE... If her friends say she had an attitude I imagine she did.

I think its teetering on the line of Excessive Force....

I'm with him!

Attitude isn't spitting, bitting, punching, etc. It's attitude and not an act of violence.

According to the article she took her hands off the car. It seems that's when the problem started. She was disobeying direct orders from a cop.

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Wow, sounds like a case of uniform-itus to me. I do not know the whole story, and never will. Nothing will happen to the officer(s) involved, as usual, and she we get an assault charge. I sure hope his c*** feels bigger at night knowing he can manhandle a 110 lb woman, though

Oh yes, I'm waiting for the typical, "Well, it's procedure.." and "She had an attitude..." responses to come on. I'VE HAD AN ATTITUDE, drunk at that, with cops in Atlanta and never got treated like that. I've gotten slammed on the hood, but I deserved it. Ironically enough, it was for a jaywalking ticket my friend got I was arguing about.

Reguardless of even a video showing up and the girl getting her ass beat on camera, the SAME people on here taking the cops side, will still be on the cops side. They'll say she had it coming to her or such. I don't care, but I think when you make someone draw blood for something that pity, you've gone too F'n far, and they did.

I'm leaving this thread, because I know the "norms" will take sides, dissect and quote everything I say just so they would feel better knowing they proved everything I said wrong.

I'm usually on the side of the "victim" but her own friends testimony made me feel the way I do. Go over to POR and see what they say about me being a cop bashing, left wing ass... You'll find a lot of that over there, because I have posted a few things that I felt cops were doing wrong.

Yeah, she did take her hands of the car, but when he shoved her back towards the car her skates came out from under her and went chin first into the car. At that point he should have been a little more compassionate.

^^ Your little brother ^^

I think it might have been a little out of line, but one must always remember, listen to the cop and you wont have any problems.
I can almost guarantee that she was with her derby buddies and was showing off a bit when she took her hands off the car. #1 rule: Dont mess with the cops especially in a part of town that is known for problem people.

Well apparently from what's been said, the police officer making the arrest has had 6 complaints already of excessive force already. He has failed to make a comment thus far.

I don't side with the cops on anything anymore. I don't like any of them...don't care if you disagree, i've gotten that opinion though experience with them.

While i will not tke the side of the cop here, as i feel it apears to be excesive force here i will offer this.

I was stoped at the side of a road after investigating one of the more famous odities in nj. (the odity is the road itself, so we werent trespasing, just stoped at the side of the street and got out to look around) the officer came up behind us as we were all geting back into the car to leave. they felt we were being "fidgity". I was driving and they asked me to step out of the car, hands on the trunk. I complied, got frisked, was told to keep my hands there as the oficer and his partner turned turned theyre atention to my 2 freinds still in the car. I neglected to wear a belt that night with a pair of pants i should have, and after the frisking they were faling down. Instinctively i reached back and tuged on the rear belt loop to pull em up. the oficer saw this and turned to me started screaming hands on the trunk at the top of his lungs in that position anyone whos watched cops knows where he stands left side towards you and points at you with the left while placing his right on his gun. i quickly got my hands on the car and was promptly semi-manhandled into the back of a cruiser, yet un cuffed we were further searched and then they were forced to release us as they found no wrong doing, but thats not the important part, the important part is under any circumstances you do not take your hands off the cruiser

That being said however i still see no reason to aply that much force to a female that you have over 100lbs on. From the looks of it i dont think it would require anywhere near that to subdue me and im pushin 190

althought i wasnt there, so i cant say what really hapened

I don't hate them... I just don't trust them to do the right thing. Like you said, experience. It's always your word against theirs and they are right 99% of the time when it goes before the judge and or jury. After all, they are "duly sworn officers of the law" and I'm just a POS citizen:rolleyes:. I just try to keep clear of trouble so they won't have the chance to mess with me. On the occasion that I do get pulled over I never give them a hard time... It's always yes, sir, no sir, have a nice day sir...

I do believe police officers can get out of control sometimes have been party to that, but just some things you need to remember.
The only people that know the truth are the people directly involved in the incident, i.e. the officers and suspects, and when they are telling the truth the other side won't believe them anyway because they don't want to
As for the size issue I give that very little merit whatsoever. I have seen 5'6" 130lb people just work bigger people like jobs. I have worked in a psyciatric facility before and have had a very hard time "restraining" much smaller males and females. I don't consider myself small being just over six foot and 275lbs. I also was involved in an incident involving an average sized fifteen year old on drugs and there were four of us all male all six feet or taller and all over 200 lbs. He worked us like a job. From the pictures regardless of what you believe or not any decent lawyer defending that police officer is gonna say just what rick said I believe. His knee in her face was for his protection and the protection of other citizens. He used his size and weight as a measure to keep his sidearm safe on his side. Yes he does have a history of being a violent cop but if he was miked and had an in-car camera and she resisted or did not listen at all and it is on tape, any decent lawyer is gonna get him off. As for medical bills, i know the police department here has to pay for any medical treatment you recieve while in custody.

When i was in HS, a 110lb girlfriend of mine beat my ass. I dont mean she hit me a few times, i mean she flat out beat the ever living sh!t out of me. The entire time it happened i was thinking "okay, no problem, ill just hold her down so she cant hit me anymore". The end result was me getting my ass whupped. Dont underestimate size or fimininity. She broke my jaw.

With that said, the pics look excessive force. I have no idea, i wasnt there, and as far as i know the bloody face could be the cop slamming her head against the car or fighting back. Its way too hard to tell from pics... i do know that him having his knee on her neck is standard procedure whether we agree with it or not.

***biting tounge...*** I will say, I have first hand seen MANY situations where it takes 6 officers to control a guy who weighs 150 pounds. I did not read the article, because I knew in the end it would be a cop bashing thread from the get go. I will say this, if the cop did go to far, in a big dept. like dallas this will not cause huge problems for the officer unless it really takes off in the media and becomes a specticle. Then there will be a natural reaction to take care of the situation.

And yes, if people saw these situations often, they would see "excessive force" often. However it falls in the realm of the officers protecting themselves. They often are in situations where there safety is compromised, they will do what is necessary to stay safe. Force is necessary in this line of work. If you dont like it, dont do stupid stuff...

I personally get sick of everyone who accuses the officer anytime they do anything to protect themselves. You know, there was a time in history when people actually feared cops. They didn't point guns at them if they didn't want their own life to be ended prematurely. They didn't attack officers, and they didn't protest what they were doing as being unconstitutional or racially biased, etc. All a cop has to do is put cuffs on a person of race a little too hard, and they are being sued for racial discrimination, etc. There was a case here a few years ago where a 15-year old mentally handicapped black boy was chasing around his family with a knife threatening to kill them. They called 911 and when they showed up the kid lunged at them with a knife. They shot him and killed him. Family claimed racial injustice, Jesse Jackson came out, they were awarded like $15 million and the cop was suspended for almost a year without pay. For doing his damn job.
People are more concerned about making cops out to be bad that people don't realize the obvious preventative for this - DONT BREAK THE LAW!!! And when you do, do as you are told by the cop and the situation won't go beyond that.
I think its bullshit cops even have to carry tasers anymore. I think if anyone comes at them, with a knife, with a gun, with a pipe, or just with their fists, cops should be able to defend themselves and the system of law by taking that person down as necessary. We'd have a lot less problem with overcrowded jails, and people would actually fear cops.
Do you know other countries laugh at how we handle crime? LAUGH. Because we are so lovey dovey to these criminals, they get better treatement then our homeless people do, and better then many law-abiding citizens do. In other countries there are actual penalties for committing crimes, and not just spending a few years in the slammer for major offenses, but actual permanent penalties. You steal, we cut off yoru hand. You come at a cop with the intent to harm him, we shoot you dead.

Now, on to this case here, you know what, just because you know her, doesn't make you a better judge of what she was really doing vs. what she wasn't doing. As others have mentioned, her size vs. the size of the cop should have no bearing on the case at all, because a small woman can do a lot of damage, especially if she were to grab his gun or even his nightstick or flashlight and use it against him. I say she got what she deserved. Maybe next time she'll listen to what the cop has to say instead of thinking she is better then him and doesnt have to do what he says.

I don't trust most law enforcement around me (I know acouple good cops). My friend Joey got shot in the face with a high powered assult rifle after the feds told him to get outta the car he was in and he said he was reaching for his seatbelt to get out and as he reached for his seatbelt the officer shot him right in the face and did some major damage to his face with his 16yr old girlfriend right next to him. They were looking for someone that had robbed a bank that night and his girlfriends car was the same color (white not a rare color by any means) but it wasn't even the same make, model or year as the guy they were looking for. The robber wore thick glasses and had long hair my friend has neither and the fed got away scott free of any wrong doing and got a nice paid vaction also know as a "suspention with pay" for acouple months while my friend lay in the hospital having to go through multiple operations to repair part of his face with no health insurance.

Don't get me wrong I 'm thankful for someone that will try to protect but you just gotta learn to keep your cool in situtations like that (don't they train in these types of things?) if you don't things start to go wrong and they don't stop getting worse. The fed(s) had bullet proof vests and helmets (also their were 4 of them) so I doubt he could of got a shot off and did any damage if he did have a gun. Just a story I had to tell.

I have no clue how to react to this story as I was not there to see it, only those people have any say in anything and they will get to have that say in court.

I'm sure as with any job there are some officers that go too far. Just like some tech support people at any software company are absolute brainless idiots, and just like people at restaurants will spit in your food.
I'm just sick of anytime a cop does his job, being criticized for it for beign "too rough"
There was a high-speed chase here about a year or so ago. It went on for many miles, and when they finally pulled him over the cop pistol whipped the guy. It was all over the news. i say good for the cop. Treats him right. In other countries they'd have just killed the criminal right then and there.

From the pictures it looks like the cop was being badge heavy but unless you were there you don't know the whole truth. He should have just pepper sprayed her and kept himself from having to manhandle her. I would assume someone in the rollerderby line of work would be agressive. If this group of rollerderby women have the characters of being badasses maybe she did it on purpose for the plublicity.

I'm all for law and order, but to the comments that our police aren't rough enough... You do realize that cops are expected to follow the law as well as us regular old pions they call US Citizens... If the cops don't follow the law and they're "rules of engagement" or whatever you want to call them we might as well have anarchy...

She was pretty hot. I saw this title and thought it would be one of those butch lesbian rollerderby things. I'll say excessive force. How often do you see that much blood on the ground from an arrest? The guy is a repeat offender. Goes hand-in-hand. I was trying to think of a Kobe Bryant joke but I couldn't :(

Rick, I agree with you, we don't want to let the cops do whatever they want to do, but at the same time, we have to let them do SOMETHIGN to protect themselves and to protect others. To me, the idea that an officer can't shoot a person who is coming at them with a knife because the person has a mental handicap (and the officer has now ay of knowing this) is absolute bull dooky. We have to have common sense too. What would a regular citizen do, if they had a gun, and some kid came lunging at them with a knife, just after threatening the life of every memebr of their family, chasing them around the house with a knife, etc. Common sense would say, they would feel their life was in danger and respond accordingly.

In Phoenix they shoot to kill people with knives all the time. Standard procedure. They had a 15 year old surrounded by 6 officers who were in a semi-circle around the guy. He wouldn't put down the knife so they all opened fire on him. End of story... Well almost. Besides killing the guy with the knife they also shot two transients who were behind a fence. They couldn't see the transients.

ahh how I wish that were the case here :) (where they could shoot someone posing a threat to them). Around here we actually have a group of people (mainly from boulder, I think) who follow around policeman with video cameras waiting for them to do something bad.

I think they should all be mic'd and have a video rolling in their car so there is more evidence than his word against mine.

The last ticket I got, first one in 10 years the cop lied big time. I didn't even try to fight it since it was "just" a speeding ticket, but it's the prinicpal. What happened was I punched it in first gear in the Mustang which definately sounds like you're getting on it. Thing is I shifted to second and let off immediately which brought me to 45mph. He said I was doing 64! Char and I saw him at the exact same time. He was sitting on his motorcycle taking radar. But at the time we both saw him he was already leaned over putting his radar gun away! He NEVER had a line of sight to us with his gun. I'm sure he went by the way the car sounded when it accelerated. If he HAD been able to see us he would also have been able to see the pickup truck that was in front of us BLOW THE STOP SIGN... but that didn't make any noise so all was well:rolleyes:

Char got a ticket last year for 74 in a 65 on a long stretch of highway that "everyone" does 75 on including the cops. The cop pulled her over and she asked why. He said she passed a car on the right. She informed him that in Arizona that's legal. He then proceeded to tell her, well you did it at 74 mph and that's what I'm going to write you for. WTF??

Then the SAME NIGHT Char was "trying to be good" and obey the limits to the T. I'm sure anyone who has got a ticket before knows the feeling.

The highway Char was on narrowed to from 2 to 1 lane and the speed limit dropped to 45. It's a total speed trap in that area, because they have you going 45 for a mile for no freakin' safety reason at all... This is also in the boonies so there was no other traffic to see what happened. So Char slows to the limit and the guy behind her freaks out. He starts honking at her, passes her in a median area that is marked with diagonal yellow lines (illegal to pass there) pulls in front of her and stops. He got out of the car with his cell phone took a picture of Char in the Mustang and slammed his fist on the roof.

She called the cops, it took them 45 minutes to respond... but get this... the cop that finally DID respond pulled over a car for SPEEDING before he went back to Char to take her report. :fire: Char gave the cop the license number and a description of the driver. The cop told Char that he would investigate and get back to her. A week passed so I called him up. He said "I've been busy and haven't been able to get around to it" I'll call you withing a week. Well... it's now been about 6 months. Good thing I haven't been holding my breath.

I hope you know me well enough by now Matt to know that I'm not making this up or embellishing. I have just been privy to some WEIRD SHIT when it comes to cops and when I hear other peoples stories, I have a hard time not believing them when I have been faced with such whackos myself.

I shouldn't forget to mention the cop that I lived next to for 5 years. Nice guy... shitty cop. He used to go to my friends house while he was on duty to watch movies so he could stay off the streets... That goes hand in hand with the cops who would drive as far as they could from their district and take pictures of themselves next to their car in front of the "Welcome to XXXX city" signs that were far away. They would trade photos to see who got the farthest away :rolleyes:

These are the guys who are supposed to provide expert testimony in court? :confused:

A ticket for J-walking you've got to be kidding
and it probably takes them an hour to get to a break An enter

i would be a cop here but not over there those blokes must be so stressed out not knowing if the person they pulled up is carrying a gun as it seems every man and his dog has one,
dont blame the cop to much as who knows whaat he has been through, probably just a natural reaction would not matter if they were 100 or 300 lbs,
where would we be without the cops

Orignal story on local TV said she was skating in and out of traffic. She was causeing cars to swerve and brake to avoid hitting her.

Said she was told to stop skating in traffic and she continued. Also said she was told to come over to the cop and she skated into a local Tatoo place.

I think there is more going on here than I'm being told. I also think the Cops are not saying a whole lot due to lawyers being involved on both sides of this story.

Bottom line, Cop says stop, that means attitutde also. Verbal or physical attitude would not be tolerated by me.

Of course I quite arguing with cops when I was 16. Never worth it.

Rob

I never said that cop doesn't have the right to protect his/her own life. I just dont' like cops...i know alot of them, and the ALL seem to get power trips off their uniforms. While im'e sure that there are "good" cops out there...in general don't trust them. But...I don't trust ANYONE!

What would a regular citizen do, if they had a gun, and some kid came lunging at them with a knife, just after threatening the life of every memebr of their family, chasing them around the house with a knife, etc.

If it was a kid, I would shoot it in both legs.

Rick, I can appreciate your story. I guess there is something bad in all situations. Theres a lot of really crappy cops out there, I wont deny that. Theres also a lot of criminals that get away too much. So somewhere in between there there is a line and unfortunately the media will over-sensationalize in any way they feel it necessary.

ions, then you've got a lawsuit for causing permanent damage to his walking, which would probably more then the $15 million they were awarded for the death of their son. And as anyone whos taken a self-defense class will teach you, NEVER aim for the legs. Someone is coming at you you are more then likely to miss even if you aim for the torso simply because of adrenaline, etc.

Center mass, center mass, center mass. The cops operate by something called a force continuum. A fist brings a fist, a bat brings an asp baton, a knife or handgun/rifle bring a handgun/rifle. A knife and gun are considered deadly weapons in the eyes of the law. Working in the fire service I have had the opportunity to work closely with the cops. Some push the limit, some give the suspect every opportunity to relent and go peacefully. This officer has a history but that does not mean in anyway that he over-reacted in this instance. Like i said before there are only two people who know the truth....the suspect and the officer. What makes me question the whole thing is the only female officer initially on the scene sat in the patrol car for most of the scuffle. One thing we know is the rollergirl disobeyed a police officer, and that could have struck a nerve. Never, ever dare a cop or tell them they won't do something to you, because it will happen to you. You can cry abuse all you want but if you have ever dealt with unruly or violent people, once physical contact is initiated as the subduer you never release the suspect until they are subdued, i.e. handcuffed regardless of what they say, even if they promise to "be good", because history has shown that they will almost always re-escalate the situation. Skin against pavement can quite often produce blood, so automatically that means the cop overreacted....no. Whatever, everyone is entitled to their opinions

If she was out with her roller derby buddies and being disorderly, and got pushed because she was being a PITA and wouldn't comply, and fell because of her skates, maybe she shouldn't be unruly on skates. If she was actually skating out into the road and messing with traffic she should be thankful no one hit her. If I had to swerve around some roller derby dirtbag I would have at least tried spit on her.

I don't really care about a cops nerve or feelings. They can check them at the timeclock. Just because you dare a cop or tell them they can't do something to you gives them no right to do a damned thing. They are supposed to be held to a higher standard than the lowly citizen. If they can't do that it is time for a new career plan.

I was once driving at night when some cop ran out in the middle of the street into oncoming traffic. I slammed on my brakes, and started to swerve to the opposite direction, but he kept running. I was afraid that I might run him over. He threw his club at my windshield, and smashed it in my face. I pulled over, and was very shaken up. He just casually picked up his club. I started to yell at him, asked him why he ran into the street, and smashed my windshield. He looked me straight in the face, and said that he will write me a speeding ticket unless I leave immediately. I was so shaken up, that I didn't read the name off of his badge. I did file a complaint with the civilian complaint board, and spoke to a city councilman. To make a long story short, he got away, and I had to pay for a new windshield, and some other damage that he did to my vehicle. I was just lucky to be alive, and even more so for not killing him. They would arrest me if anything would have happened to him. The city only cares if a cop is killed, and doesn't pay too much attention to a civilian's welfare.

My buddy and I were driving in town and we were playing the music way too loud. a bike cop(the kind with pedals) rode right out in front of us from between 2 parked cars. My buddy slammed on the brakes. He writes my buddy a ticket for his music being too loud. My buddy got mouthy and asked him what he would have done if he would have done if he couldn't stop, or see him. He told my buddy that he would have just radioed for another cop to come and arrest him for vehicular manslaughter. :rolleyes:

My buddy and I were driving in town and we were playing the music way too loud. a bike cop(the kind with pedals) rode right out in front of us from between 2 parked cars. My buddy slammed on the brakes. He writes my buddy a ticket for his music being too loud. My buddy got mouthy and asked him what he would have done if he would have done if he couldn't stop, or see him. He told my buddy that he would have just radioed for another cop to come and arrest him for vehicular manslaughter. :rolleyes:

Now that's crap!

I assume that being a pedal biker gives you an inferiority complex, all those real cops in their Harleys and Cruisers probaby make you feel like crap. I have met some really helpful, understanding, honest cops who deserve to wear the uniform. None of these were bike cops, or even city police, they were always state boys.

He told my buddy that he would have just radioed for another cop to come and arrest him for vehicular manslaughter. :rolleyes:
How does a dead cop radio for another cop and tell him he has just been run over and killed?

He wouldn't have been killed. We were in town and he was on his bike. Likely his pelvis would have just been crushed. :) That would have been funny.

A friend of mine said that there was always a cop near his school in Denver, Co. that used to chase the kids after they would J walk, but never got anybody. Don't they have anything better to do with their time? Are they bored, or just scared to go into tougher territory to arrest the real law breakers? Maybe they should go under the boardwalk at 2 AM, and harass some homeless people, or drug dealers. They won't do this because they know that this is too dangerous. Does anybody remember the case of Bernard Goetz? He protected himself when a few kids on the subway were about to attack him with sharpened screwdrivers that supposedly they only used to break open vending machines to steal pocket change. Because he protected himself with his gun, he got into trouble. If these kids would have tried to attack a cop, and he shot them, nobody would have complained, because he's a cop. The judge will say that cops shoot to kill, not to injure. This is part of their training.

To the ones commenting on how the cop is a "repeat offender" and has a "history of excessive force," Pretty much any cop who has been on the force for more than a year or two has had at least one complaint filed against them, and the longer you stay on, the more it accumulates. This is especially true in rougher neighborhoods where scuffles happen often and people are quick to claim police britality. I have several family members in law enforcement and am not afraid to say when a police officer is in the wrong, but even from those pictures, that girl was clearly resisting.

As for the blood- this girl does rollerderby, she probably gets jacked up all the time and hitting her face when her skates slipped out wouldn't have too much effect on her (after 16 years of playing hockey, blows to my body don't really have that much of an effect on me anymore), so its not unreasonable to think that her attitude/resistance kept up after the fall.

Here is some more info on it. You'll see some other links and what not.

Roller Derby Girl (http://www.helpmichelle.org/)