Hi guys, i was on ebay doing my tire search when i came across these tires. Awesome price and really agressive tread. Would you recommend these tires? Mind you im on a budget too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LT-33-X-12-50-R-16-5-D-MUD-GRIPS-NEW-TIRES-TRUCK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ66474QQitemZ8035064303

You'll need a 16.5" rim which I think is kinda rare to find these days. I'm not sure though. That's the only thing I could see with these tires.

I'd stay away from them personally.. Even in a 15" rim. The center lugs have hardly any siping.

whats siping? oh yeah it would be on a 15 inch rim, im just pointing out the tread design.

Tire siping is the process of cutting small slits, or grooves, into the tread blocks of tires in order to provide better traction in adverse weather conditions. The sipes allow the tread blocks to spread on contact with the ground, which helps expel water from the tread and provides better bite. Practically every all-season, mud+snow, and all terrain tire marketed today is siped in the factory mold, yet few mud terrain tires are siped. The traction benefits of siping, along with the purported increase in tire life due to improved heat dissipation from siped lugs, is something that can easily (and quickly) be done at home.

Essentially you cut across the width of the tire on the tread to open up the lugs so that more water/mud/etc is expelled while driving.

THanks Blee. You da man...lol. Can i do this with a really sharp knife, or is this a special tool required job?

a knife and a steady hand is all you need, did it on one of my friends tires

A small soldering torch with a solid chisel tip works well also.

You can get Dunlop Radial Rover A/T from Discount Tire Direct for $500 delivered...

That isn't a mud tire.

Ya, those dunlaps wouldnt get my anywhere fast. Im here in vancouver, bc, for school and all it is up here is mud and more mud. I was lookig at the BFGoodrich tires M/T and they dont appear to have siping on them.

the BFM MTs have better siping that those crappy tires from E-bay. To be perfectly honest, the type of tire is dependant on how much you'll actually see and what type of mud. If its the gooey type of mud than even a BFG MT will be useless to a point. If its just wet watery mud, than a AT could be worth while. You will not get alot of mileage out of MT tire vs a AT. MTs your lucky if you get 30-40K miles out of it. I'd say get a set of ATs unless you like buying tires often.

I don't see how they could be that bad of a tire from ebay. Here is a comparison to the tread design on a BFG MT and the durango mud grip from ebay. Might be worth a shot. Any AT tire I've ever bought for my vehicle has never lasted me more than 30-40000 miles. I buy tires once a year and always an AT tire. The best AT tire I ever had was the BFG AT and they lasted 45,000 or so.

We've hardly heard of this brand or seen any other brands with a similar tread design. I'm skeptical on its abilities. Atleast with other brands like the Mud Kings, we can verify they were made by BFG and see other tires with almost the same exact tread design.

This is true. I've never heard of them so I really can't comment on them too much. I think though that Durango brand might be carried at Pep boys. I'm not sure though. Worth a google search I guess.

the durango muds look like the buckshot mudders i once had on my ranger those things sucked so bad they look like a BFG mud but i got stuck with those tires more then i ever did with my BFG's on the same truck. I dunno about cheaper tires like thos sometimes.

ill be running truck in watery mud, wet sand, rocks, dirt and snow. also i will be doing most of my driving in the city and highway. Will these fit 15x7 inch rims...stock mountaineer rims or do i have to upgrade the rims to 15x8?

Will these fit 15x7 inch rims...stock mountaineer rims or do i have to upgrade the rims to 15x8?

Neither! Assuming the link you posted are the tires you're thinking of buying.

Those tires on eBay are for 16.5 inch rims. You'll have to buy the tires AND rims. The rims alone will probably cost you $600 since they are a not so popular 16.5 size.

That's why they are on eBay.

Neither! Assuming the link you posted are the tires you're thinking of buying.

Those tires on eBay are for 16.5 inch rims. You'll have to buy the tires AND rims. The rims alone will probably cost you $600 since they are a not so popular 16.5 size.

That's why they are on eBay.
like i said the rim size for the tire is 15 inches. i was just pointing out the tread design. its a 33x12.5x15 tire. will 15x7's work with this or go up to 15x8?

I just look around on the net and 16.5's seem easy to get so it wouldn't be that big of a deal. You'd still have to get rims tho...

you *could* run a 33x12.50x15 on a 15x7 inch rim...but a 15x8 would be much better...a 15x10 would be best. The rim really should be within an inch or two of the tread width of the tire, but 15x8's seem to be the most commonly used.

15x8

cool, as for the rims if i buy new ones, what backspacing should i get. i cant remeber but i read that section is running a 5.25" backspacing. i want a wide looking stance in a way.

I would get a standard RWD backspace.

I have some 32's on AR23's with standard back spacing and they stick out just enough to look good and still be legal without guards.

My old 33's went out just bit more, I think you'll be happy with that.

The backspacing is going to be 3.75" on a 15x8.

Did you have a rim in mind?

The only 16.5 rims that I have ever seen are 8 lug for 3/4ton and above. That is what Military Humvees come with. I dam sure had to change enough of them in my day. LOL

my plan is to run the 33's on my stock rims for a month and then buy 15x8. im thinking of standard issue black rock crawler rims. 58 bucks a piece. when i get hoe im gonna hit the junkyards and if i find a 15x8 rim and buy em for 100 for the set ill just buy em and mount the new tires on that.

Durango's are made by Cooper Tire.

Sweet James, thanks for the information. Breathing a breath of relief now nowing a name brand company made those tires.

my plan is to run the 33's on my stock rims for a month and then buy 15x8. im thinking of standard issue black rock crawler rims. 58 bucks a piece. when i get hoe im gonna hit the junkyards and if i find a 15x8 rim and buy em for 100 for the set ill just buy em and mount the new tires on that.

Those will work fine, not my favorites, but then again not going on my truck.

Those rims will have a 3.75" backspace.

I would not run that wide of a tire on a 7" rim. Here is what Cooper tire has to say about it.

33X12.50R15LT 8.50 - 11.00(rim width)
http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/ProductDetails.asp?ProdType=LtTruck&id=271&title=Light+Truck+Tires#sizesAndSpecs

33X12.50R15LT 8.50 - 11.00(rim width)
http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/ProductDetails.asp?ProdType=LtTruck&id=190&title=Light+Truck+Tires

I know these are not the same tire, but they are cooper's m/ts in the same size you plan to buy, and since cooper makes the tires you plan to buy i would listen to them. Do what you want but i would not run a 12.5 inch tire on a 7 inch rim.

I run my 12.5" wides on a 15x7 stock rim with no issues. I've air down to 15 PSI with no issues other than me being a severe jackass one day at the lake @ 101 in Paragon. Essentially it comes down to the right air pressure. I suggest using the chalk method to determine the correct pressure.

I just thought yall might like to see what the manufacture had to say about it. I know they are trying to avoid lawsuits and all that.

About the only thing it will do (running a whatever x 12.50 on a 7" wheel) is wear the center tread down slightly faster. Other than that, it doesnt really hurt the tire.

well ill find somes rim for her when i get home, just one more days guys. My truck has been sittin at a friends house for a month now......he kinda lives in a sketchy nieghborhood.