well i gave in and bought a set of dynamic wheel beads. I got the 4 8oz EZ open bags. Ill let everyone know how they do on the street and if they are worth the money. Ill keep ya all posted.

sidenote--if im in the wrong furom sorry, but tire and wheels seem the most approparaite to put it in

Yeah, this is where to put it. But after your done - put a review in the review section. Equal is in there, Dyna beads should be in there as well.

-Drew

sorry to be a newb but what is a dyna bead???

Ceramic beads you put inside your tires to balance them. No chance of knocking off a weight on the trail and they will automatically compensate for lost chunks of rubber or mud packed on the inside of the rim.

Never pay for tire store balancing again. :thumbsup: Even if you get free balancing with your tire purchase, you still have to go there and wait for them to rebalance. With these, your tires will always be balanced.

http://www.innovativebalancing.com/

well its time to bring this back to life. I got the tires and dyna beads, bl and shackles go on tomorrow and tires mounted too. Ill be placing dyna beads in the tires and i will tell you how the feel when i get it in.

Airsoft pellets work just as good and are cheaper and easier to get. :) BB's and golf balls work well too. Ive been running airsoft pellets in the tow rig for about 6 months now.

well gee wiz. why the hell didnt you tell me this before lol? coulda saved 51 bucks towards gas. I bought so oh well. till the review!!

im interested in the pellets how well do they work and how much should I put in, in each tire?

ok guys, finally got my body lift installed. there was no chance in hell i could have done it with bigorange440......you da man. Now with the lift we mounted the 33's with the beads in em. On the road they immediatly balanced and i was pretty happy. Whn i got on the hoghway itwas smooth however at 65-70 mph the truck vibrated a bit...like the headilghts were visible vibrating and shakin the beam. After that it was smooth. At 80 on ward...i wont tell you how much onward, it was smooth as ice. So pretty much the only rant is 65-70 mph. Again i want to thank bigorange440 for helpin me, he mounted the tires, tremendoulsly helped me with the install, and figured out the radiator issue we were havin. Travis thanks man, your a life saver.

uhhhhh mahdey i'm David not Travis. glad everything worked out. Did you end up having to trim the fender?

ok guys, finally got my body lift installed. there was no chance in hell i could have done it with pgdsm......you da man. Now with the lift we mounted the 33's with the beads in em. On the road they immediatly balanced and i was pretty happy. Whn i got on the hoghway itwas smooth however at 65-70 mph the truck vibrated a bit...like the headilghts were visible vibrating and shakin the beam. After that it was smooth. At 80 on ward...i wont tell you how much onward, it was smooth as ice. So pretty much the only rant is 65-70 mph. Again i want to thank pgdsm for helpin me, he mounted the tires, tremendoulsly helped me with the install, and figured out the radiator issue we were havin. Travis thanks man, your a life saver.


your welcome....it was fun......

so in your opinion is it worth getting your tires balanced old fashion style or putting in the dyna beads? an james, how many pellets did u put in yours?

Okay, here's my opinion-


How much do you use?
It depends on the size and weight of what wheel and tire you are using. Go here http://www.innovativebalancing.com/BigTirechart.htm. Now, with this chart, you can figure out how much weight of whatever you are using to add to each tire. It doesnt hurt to use too much, but it does hurt to use too little so dont worry about going over with the weight. The BB's, golf balls, Airsoft pellets, or Dynabeads all work on the same principle- centrifugal force will sling them to the lightest spot of the tire and hold them there. If you put a little bit too much in it will compensate by going to the next lightest spot of the tire. If you put too little in, it wont quite be fully balanced. I am running 33x12.50 Mud Kings on the tow beater and ran 8 ounces of airsoft in each tire and it worked great. Mud Kings are well known for taking alot of weight to balance. I will also be using them in a set of 36" Iroks and homemade beadlock wheels here pretty soon.

How well do they work?
They work fine as long as you get enough in there. If you dont add enough, you could have a tiny bit of vibes at certain speeds.

So in your opinion is it worth getting your tires balanced old fashion style or putting in the dyna beads?
If it is a car, a sport truck, or an X with stock size tires i would just get them balanced the old fashioned way. Id say anything with a 31" or bigger and id go airsoft. I would never use the dyna beads, only because they are expensive and can be hard to find. They sell the same thing at Walmart for dirt cheap in the toy section. :p

I ran the 8 oz. i have 33x12.5x15 tires on my truck. As for price, yesd they were a bit expensive. However i do realizie that they work. This pretty much will save you from rebalancing your tire at the shop and deckin out a few greens. However i believ the airsoft pellets or bb's...whjatever they are called, most probably will work the same. 8oz is 8 oz. So my recommendation is, if you wanna do this, buy the airsoft bb's. 51 bucks is a lot to deck out when you could have payed way less for bb's.

AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE, IT WAS BIGORANGE440 THAT HELPED ME. I SAW BC AND THOUGHT IT WAS HIM. SORRY TRAVIS.

I ran my last 3 sets of tires with both the static balance (weights) and the continual balancing powder, works wonderfully.

i'd like to update this becuase i got new rims. For asummary i ran 80z bnags in each of my 33" tires on 15x7" rims. WEll i had my 15x10's installed and made sure no beads were spilled...there wasnt any we checked religiously. Mounted the rims and i went on the highway. at 40 mph i started to feal a vibration and it got worse the higher i went i got to 75 mph and the truck shook violently, like i couldnt hold the wheel and it started to swerve a bit. I had to got to seattle the next mornin at 5 am and its already 12:30 am so no shop is open. I drive to seattle at 60 mph and take my truck for an oil change and ask them to remove the beads in the tires and put static wieghts. I went on the highway, 70mph no vibration, 80 mph no vibration, 90 mph no vibration ( istayed a t 90 for about 30 secs). the vibratiobn were all gone, all i felt was the bumps in the highway. I was afraid i would have to just unisntall everything if the tires made my mounty ride like that and i couldnt go over 70, but now i can. SO my new opinion on tire beads is that they are not made for a 15x10" rim, i dont now why it would be different but it was tooo dangerous for me to figure out why.

If they werent balanced then there wasnt enough weight in them. If you could have added more it probably would have went away.

probably, but i wasnt bout to buy more beads. right now im waiting to get my money back

i think i'll be buying some airsoft pellets this week. it calls for 10 oz so i'm thinking maybe 12 oz a tire to be safe... weights on the inside of the wheels are getting ripped off by the caliper.

did you use the special valve they recommend for the dyna beads, with the airsoft pellets?

Nope, regular valve stem with core.

did you actually try golf balls? hahaha, you are my idol

Ok, I have read over this thread twice now, and Im about to do it. I bought some Daisy BB's at wally world. I measured out 5 oz. of BBs for each tire and am going to put them in tomrrow. They wont fit through the valve stem, so I have to break the bead. I have stock size and design tires that need to be re balanced. I have lifetime balance at wally world, but do not want to wait four hours for them to do a 15 min job. Does anybody have any comments / suggestions before I start? Thanks in advance....

Bumpin..... I need some insight / info before tomrrow!

try it. when i had the stock rims with 33's i was fine except for a vibration i got. But as i said with the 15x10 it was hell. But your stock so i guess you'll be fine. do it.

I did it. I removed each wheel, broke the bead, and put in approx 5oz of BB's in each tire. 5oz is prob overkill, but id rather have too much than to little. Works great- no vibration at any speed. Noise is barely noticeable with the windows up, but can be heard when I stop with the windows down. What I hear is the BB's falling on the wheel. I am well pleased. $5 in BB's will do two trucks.

Does anybody have any updated comments on "equal" or "dynabeads"??? Are they still working well for everyone?

I figured I would give some air soft pellets a whirl.

I guess I'll give an update.. We are still running airsoft pellets and haven't balanced 33" tires in years. The Trxus Mt's which are notorious for being unbalanced seem to be very smooth with 8 ounces of pellets in each tire. Its keeping them balanced even with chunks of lugs taken out.

edit: we are currently running 33x12.50 Trxus Mt's on 15x8 rims which are slightly bent. We have 8 ounces in each tire. When we had the BFG tires on the same rims we were running 4 ounces.

~Mark

I like the idea of BB's in there, the noise would be wild to start with. I'd like to see the looks of pedestrians at stops for a while.

The noise at low speeds is minimal, after about 15 mph, the noise stops all together. The real sound is when you stop, about a second after, your wheel is showered with lots of BB's making an interesting sound. That is when you get looks in traffic.

I drove with the BB's for quite a while, worked really well, when I changed tires, I didn't plan ahead and have the bb's ready for the tire shop, so I had them balance them the traditional way. That was when I was running my wal-mart goodyears and switched to the BFG's. I always intended to balance the STT's that way, just never got around to it.

I figured I would give some air soft pellets a whirl.

Since I have 33" tires, I had the tire shop install, a little over 8 oz ( 250 grams) of .020 gram white air soft pellets per tire a few days ago, and also the 5th shock.

Smooth as glass!! Oh man, I cannot believe the ride now! :thumbsup::D:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Also, the pellets make minimal noise,only when coming to a complete stop. At worst it sounds like a truck behind you with air brakes stopping. The slight noise is without a doubt a minor trade off considering the ride improvement.
Highly recommended!!!!

I'm gonna have to give this a shot. My tires are not balanced well anymore, the balance hasn't held well. This should ensure no matter how crappy they wear that they will stay balanced.

And air soft pellets are cheap :D I could do lots of tires with a container of those.

I figure I'd give a report on the latest set of tires to get airsoft pellets.


We picked up a set of 265x75r16 hercules all-trac (load range E) to put on the van. They were replacing a set of old buckshot mudders (yuck)..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2558/4011814958_510f51d3d5.jpg

To cut down on the # of pellets we had to use, I stopped at the local airsoft/paintball place and got a bag of .25 gram pellets.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2684/4021240550_119f398221.jpg

I used my pocket scale (from harbor freight tools) and one of the measuring cups from the kitchen. I put about 8 ounces in each baggie. The pellets I already had were much lighter (orange ones) and took almost twice as many to get the same weight.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2556/4020479167_b43166df44.jpg

I took them over to my neighbors house (he has a tire machine) and put the new tires on the rims and dumped the pellets in the tires as we mounted them.

I drove it a few hundred miles and they are ice smooth.

I then drove the van about 800 miles, pulling the explorer on the trailer and it still drove nice and smooth (tire wise). I can tell they are load range E tires when I got into Ca as interstate 8 in Ca is really rough (very bumpy).

Here is the pile of pellets/gear I had when I finished weighing out the bags. The dark gray ones are the ones that have run about 50k miles in a set of 33" tires.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2649/4020481329_5919419d0a.jpg

I have helped install the pellets on a few other vehicles, and found if the rims are bent, they won't work well. I found that listed on dynabeads own site too. Bent rims and dynamic balancing beads just don't work.

~Mark

Glad this thread was bumped!

Will a big tire store chain agree to using the beads instead of traditional weights?

Has anyone tried to do that?

I was just wondering if I took mine in and told them that I don't think the balance they gave me was any good,(cause it's not) and I would want them to use the pellets instead.

I know of at least one discount tire and one Jack Furrier Tire center that will put in the beads.

both were intrigued with it. My neighbor had at least heard of semi's running with balancing beads.

~Mark

Many semi drivers used to use golf balls in the steering tires.

May people don't understand how they work and scoff at the idea, but they do work very well. It's just the noise of the pellets hitting the wheel after stopping I don't like. Cruising with the windows down, it makes people look.

My mail truck just got new tires, and they needed a bunch of weight. I'd try the beads if I could do it over. What's another odd noise?

this is similar to big rigs using a liquid. It's not water, it's a little heavier. but we had some come in to our shop as a demo, but as we do not use service big rigs we had no use in using it. I'm planning on doing this when i bump up to my 285s and hopefully will save me a lot of time getting my tires rebalanced.

I put the dynabeads in my 39.5 bias iroks in march of this year because i received a bad vibe from the drop in bag of sand like media very similar to equal. I found out when I pulled the rims apart that a lot of the balancing media had stayed in the bag, probably a problem. With the dynabeads it runs smooth all the way up to 90mph(the fastest i've gone). Probably next time i'm going to run airsoft pellets. Those dynabeads are too expensive.