I got a nice new 30" dual burner grill and I want to build an island for it. I want it to have enough room for the bbq a small fridge and a counter/bar big enough for 3 chairs/stools.

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/3420/medium/IMG_3476.jpg

It will have to be on the smaller side, since I don't have that much room in the backyard. I've been looking on the webernet for ideas and I like the looks of these.

http://www.hottubdepot.net/images/grills/chef300.jpg

http://www.lagrillislands.com/images/island2-sml.jpg

I will be running propane for a while until I can hook it up to the CNG from the house, which is right next to the chimney (between the slider and chimney in the pic below).

I think I would want it right in front of the chimney, but I'm not exactly sure yet.

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/3420/medium/IMG_3473.jpg

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/3420/medium/IMG_3474.jpg

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/3420/medium/IMG_3475.jpg

Here is my first idea, but I'm not sure if I want to have to walk all the way around it to get to the Q.

Any help/ideas/suggestions would be appreciated.

Flip it left to right so that you could walk out from your slider straight into the grilling area. Plus, if you had guests at the table, you'd be facing them. I like it, like the detail on your patio cover also.

...found it...:D

...i just got back from installing security cams, emergency call...anyways, let me know what day i can come by, including tomorrow, take a peak and discuss it..;)

Flip it left to right so that you could walk out from your slider straight into the grilling area. Plus, if you had guests at the table, you'd be facing them. I like it, like the detail on your patio cover also.

Since his CNG connection is between the sliding doors and the chimney, his diagram may be the best solution. Unless he wants to run a gas line at the bottom of the chimney to connect it on the other side, which could be a pretty big hassle, not to mention pretty unsightly.

Have you thought about doing a two section set up, Froader? BBQ on one side (say a "short end") and the angled counter with chairs, refrig on the other? Kind of like a short I on one side and a backwards L on the other? :dunno:



(I can't post pictures or I would draw it out for you.)

Hey Colin, my dad has a good size pile of bricks that he may sell ya cheap, that you could build it out of;)

How about something similar to this?

http://www.custombuiltoutdoorkitchens.com/artwork2007/kitchens-web-2007/Lew-web-2007/Completed/Lew-0052.jpg

With the BBQ sitting against the chimney, I think that would look nice!

(Keep in mind I said something SIMILAR to that. It doesn't have to be that big but it would solve the problem of where you walk in to the BBQ area.)

let me know what day i can come by, including tomorrow, take a peak and discuss it..;)
Tomorrow would be good. I'll give you a call when I wake up, since I know you get up at ungodly hours. :p:


Have you thought about doing a two section set up, Froader?

I hadn't and that's a great idea. I'll draw something up using that idea.

Sojourner i like that idea.

I also thing the entrance would be better on the door side because you will be bringing stuff in and out the door but you may have it set up better for guest now.

Yeah, the only problem with reversing wht I have now, is there wouldn't be any room for the person to pull the chair out at the table.

I like the two part idea, a lot.

Hey Colin, my dad has a good size pile of bricks that he may sell ya cheap, that you could build it out of;)

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I got a buddy who's a landscaper and he has a pile of bricks he may let go of cheap....

...the material i was thinking of , if you can see it, is shown on this mail box on the left side of the picture...that would have looked good off of the patio surrounded by a couple tiki's and torches...i'm just wondering if we could get power back to the wall for the volcano...:scratch:

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4357/specialitybottomimageis9.jpg

There is a plug inside right next to the CNG for the fireplace. My electrician buddy siad we could just run it from that for the outside.

That would be great if you could get that from your buddy Ted.

I think I like this idea.

...i can probably run your gas and electrical but would like to put an access panel for a shut off right by the slider...we'll see...see you at 9-30-10...???

Yeah that's a good time...closer to 10 though. I don't think I'll be sleeping here tonight. :)

I'm headed out in about 30 min for a party.

I think I like this idea.

Sure it all sounds great... TILL A TRUCK CRASHES THROUGH THE WALL!:eek:



:p:

...ok, but don't leave me hanging out at your door, lol...:D...and if she's got a friend, call me...;)

Sure it all sounds great... TILL A TRUCK CRASHES THROUGH THE WALL!:eek:



:p:

...roflmao, maybe we need to start with some k-rails around his house...

I'll be here. :)

...hey, be safe...alot of nuts out and checkpoints...but have fun, l8r...

There is a plug inside right next to the CNG for the fireplace. My electrician buddy siad we could just run it from that for the outside.

That would be great if you could get that from your buddy Ted.

I think I like this idea.

That's even better! I like the idea of having a complete walk through from the door to the table. Great concept! :biggthump

We are all missing the key item...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41C4NCACKQL._SS500_.jpg

We are all missing the key item...
Toy, I took that into consideration. No Coors Light at my place!! :thumbsup:

So, tbars came over today and pretended to know what he was talking about. He had great ideas... :p:

Here is the new tentative plan for the day. What do you guys think?

I think it is great myself.
One thing-is there any way to get an outdoor fireplace in the chimney? It would make it look like it belonged-and be very useful. It might also get the gas line outside?

...volcano is phase II of the project....:D

it looks good so when the build gonna start?

As soon as I figure out exactly what I want and where. All depending on budget as well.

Who needs a truck? (http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201899) :)

Is the sale of the Ex gonna finance this?:p: I'll bring the carne and Newcastles when it's done:cool:

I'll bring the carne and Newcastles when it's done:cool:
Deal!!

I'll host a little GTG when it's done.


The sink and that part of the counter may be an add on later. We'll see.

...maybe bill could bring up a couple logs for a tiki carving...;)
...could this be the new tiki tavern, west coast ef gathering spot...we do need to figure out the valet parking too...:scratch:

Toy, I took that into consideration. No Coors Light at my place!! :thumbsup:

So, tbars came over today and pretended to know what he was talking about. He had great ideas... :p:

Here is the new tentative plan for the day. What do you guys think?

Even better! You have access to both CNG and water by putting it there! I guess he DOES know what he's talking about.... sometimes! lol ;)

...i heard that,lol...;)

...he now has better access to and from the house...he also can pass food and such thru the window...it creates better flow around his yard too...the items aren't all located in their places yet but i think he will really enjoy it now....
...where it was drawn before can be the dance area and also more tables...:D

...i heard that,lol...;)

...he now has better access to and from the house...he also can pass food and such thru the window...it creates better flow around his yard too...the items aren't all located in their places yet but i think he will really enjoy it now....
...where it was drawn before can be the dance area and also more tables...:D

I can't wait to see pictures of the finished product! It looks like it will be terrific! I love dancing. You HAD to mention that! Didn't you! lol ;)

Colin, I hope there's a party coming......

When it's done, I'll have you fools over. :)

tbars, one more thing I know I want.

Rope lighting just under the counters on a dimmer, like this. :thumbsup:

http://www.orchardweb.co.uk/garden/nightlarge.jpg



Oh, and we're good with blowin' out that counter under the kitchen window.

Hey you guys need any code stuff signed off? I'm legal now....

I don't think so, but I'll wait until tbars wakes up in 2 hours and see what he says.

I think it is great myself.
One thing-is there any way to get an outdoor fireplace in the chimney? It would make it look like it belonged-and be very useful. It might also get the gas line outside?

I like that idea, but I think I'd rather have a fire pit with chairs around it in another part of the backyard.

Ok, I thought of another idea. There is still plenty of room to walk by it from the slider to the rest of the backyard. What do you think?

I like this design the best. Now go to sleep.....

I like that idea, but I think I'd rather have a fire pit with chairs around it in another part of the backyard.

Ok, I thought of another idea. There is still plenty of room to walk by it from the slider to the rest of the backyard. What do you think?

Yeah! I like that one better too! I get dibs on the chair across the "round table" facing the door! :D (j/k) hehehe

...i'm not liking the new design because of the step area...it looks good on paper..i think we could add the radius to the drawing you posted yesterday, instead of that little wing wall...;)

..the tivoli aka rope lighting won't be a problem...instead of the touch screen bar top i was thinking we could add a couple quarter video poker machines instead...that would help generate some revenue...:D

I think the new design looks the coolest, but I feel like the raised area is going to get in the way/detract from it.

I like that idea, but I think I'd rather have a fire pit with chairs around it in another part of the backyard.

Ok, I thought of another idea. There is still plenty of room to walk by it from the slider to the rest of the backyard. What do you think?

And you thought i was on late haha

i like this idea the best.

I think this is going to lead to a completely themed and landscaped backyard.....

...alright...i've been hard at work on this thing and i need an answer as this is escential for the crews moral...:p:

...i found one of these with the black door, usually 550 plus tx....i can get 1 for 350 plus tx but it's clearance and local, i just seen it...
...i'm not sure if it's the same exact model but here is a link...btw, it comes with the o2bottle...;)
http://www.beveragefactory.com/refrigerators/beer/dkc645bls.shtml

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4411/dkc645blsrp6.jpg

I'll have to let you know after 6pm. I'm out and about right now. Sweet deal though!

...no problem, it's in orange...

...i thought i would post a couple other ideas for you as in countertop lighting and a fake lit fireplace w/lcd display for the fire just to give you an idea of options...not that it's what you want but to give you an idea to work with...my customer/supplier also has a couple big waterjet tables so if you wanted something custom like tiki's cut into the material, no problem...:D

...lit, but not dimmable...:(
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4762/displays004se2.jpg

this is actually 8'tall...
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9158/displays003up2.jpg

The kegerator is a go!!! Let me know if you need me to meet you to get it or what.

..i'll be ringing you in a couple,...:D

When is the party? I'll bring the keg. Maybe a brass pole too?

...any luck on getting it??? was it still there???

I can't really tell from the pictures but is patio cover solid? If you put the BBQ under it are you concerned about smoke build up under the cover? Maybe some residue on the bottom? I'm not much of a cook but I know how smoky I can make the kitchen when I burn something. Might not be an issue though. Take lots of pictures of how you build everything, cause I will have to copy it in a year or two in my backyard.

...the cover is not solid...it is open 2x4 pvc...if the bar b q is just off the edge of the cover it shouldn't be a problem...if the bar b q is under the cover, it will require a hood and vent per fire code...;)

...and if i ever find a girl who doesn't think the smoke detector is, the food is ready bell, i would be set...;)

...any luck on getting it??? was it still there???
I didn't make it there. Had a couple things come up. I may go tomorrow.

...i'm not liking the new design because of the step area...it looks good on paper..i think we could add the radius to the drawing you posted yesterday, instead of that little wing wall...;)

Alright Ted, I'm really liking the last design. What if we built it so it goes over the step, and take it out of the equation?

Like so:

...thats cool too...kinda what i was thinking with the first design...i liked how it had a nice contour shape and swing it around to the radius, you still have spacious room for the stools on the raised are but they are still under the cover and inside the post...

...btw, i got a couple pics of a previous bbq i'll post...it's real simple just to show set up, appliance locations...

So this one is doable?

...anythings doable...;)

...what you prefer can and will happen...:D

Ok, then the last design is what I want!! :D

...the cover is not solid...it is open 2x4 pvc...if the bar b q is just off the edge of the cover it shouldn't be a problem...if the bar b q is under the cover, it will require a hood and vent per fire code...;)


Thats what I was figuring. Just didn't hear any talk about a hood. I'm ready to see the construction pictures.

Thats what I was figuring. Just didn't hear any talk about a hood. I'm ready to see the construction pictures.

I'm ready to take them...nudge...tbars...nudge... :p:

I think I decided on stucco as well so that way it matches the house and I can paint it all...cough Dave...cough. :D Also tiles to match the table on the right of the pic.

...when i get back i'll have some better answers...;)

...here's the pics of the other bbq...i also have it done in lighter stone so you don't need maintenance but stucco and paint it is...:D

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3266/bbq004os6.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9393/bbq002xa8.jpg

...sorry the burner needs cleaned..
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/536/bbq003gz6.jpg

It's too bad you have a grill already colin, my friend Mike and I are starting a new company called Fire King, we will be building custom grills to order......

Sounds sweet. When and where are you starting that?

starting next week out here. We just placed an order for a whole lotta plate steel, and we are going to build our demo grills by the end of the month. mike works for a company called HIAB, installing cranes on commercial trucks. He's an amazing welder.

Needs some boob tube...

http://img.hgtv.com/HGTV/2006/06/09/HotGrills2_CalSpaOutdoorTV_w609.jpg

Take your Cal Spas hot tub to a higher level of enjoyment with the luxury Spa Entertainment Options. Integrate such performance features as the auto-rising and auto-storing 42-inch plasma screen, or include the CD Stereo System to enhance the beauty, function and enjoyment of your tub. Watch your favorite DVD movies, and if that's not enough, then turn on the LCD or plasma screen and watch your favorite TV station.

...Any updates on your BBQ project???...:scratch:


EDIT:...woohoo, 7000...

Ah yes, totally forgot about this thread... :)

Here it is, done!! :p:

...I see it is also "Elite", lol...:D

Looks good, but it would look better with some tikis around it! :p:

Well there was a change in plans for the whole backyard, which changed the bbq island idea. I ended up getting a pre-fabbed 3 piece deal. I got a pretty good price on it, and it fits perfectly where it is.

5 burner including Infra-red and a griddle. It has a rotisserie set-up which I will probably never use so it's not installed right now. The fridge isn't stocked yet with the goods and the propane tank sits in the right side behind the stainless door there. It's amazing the difference a good bbq makes compared to the $120 Charlbroiler.

Here are the pics. :)

...I have a couple ideas for your other areas if you are interested???

...I have a couple ideas for your other areas if you are interested???

Show me what you got!

...Since you don't have any seating now, how about a little bench???

...Bad pic..:(...but it would give you an idea..
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7297/deck070czp2.jpg

...I was thinking you could put it somewhere on this wall...:dunno:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1867/yard001mc0.jpg

That sounds pretty good, what about this area? It's pretty bare since "The Accident.":)

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_3391.jpg

...I can't photochop as quick as you master...:p:

...give me a little and I will see if I can think of a pic to add to that area..:scratch:

here is the same bench kinda, but bigger for more seating :dunno:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5726/deck062boi7.jpg

...this is the best I can come up with...:dunno:


...Benches..
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1867/yard001mc0.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9362/deck062wt4.jpg

...For the other area i'm thinking a huge deck with a recessed fire ring like this..:dunno:

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7399/deck064np5.jpg

...lol, this is all I got...:D

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6979/deck073wo0.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4652/deck067nh8.jpg

...To put it into perspective..;)

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1813/deck072fh5.jpg

So when is dinner so I can come get my roof rack?????

Totally dig the fire ring.

...The deck material is Trex, 5/4 boards, color = Saddle

...Some sizes...

...The Deck...

... is 16' wide by 12' deep not counting the steps...The short sides are 8', and the deck is big enough to put 3 living room couches and a big screen with plenty of room left...:D

...The steps are 7 1/2" tall (Except one set/ side on deck = 9 1/2", and they are 11" deep..

...The Benches...

... are 30' (Radius) running across the wall and 24' in front (angled)...

...The seats are approx 7' wide by avg. depth of 18", at a height of 17 1/2"

...The columns/tops are designed for people on each side to be able to eat...They are aprox. 24" at a height of about 32"...

Made some progress on this yesterday. I had an electrician buddy, Steve, come over and help out getting power to the area that I want the water feature (between the two deck pieces that tbars4 built). Things tend to go slow when you've known the electrician for 25 years, hence the night pics. :) On with the pics.

We cut the cement to get the conduit from the house to the spot that tbars left it to hook up to. Enough room to get a water pipe in there also.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2927.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2925.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2926.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2928.jpg

Then I dug a trench to get to the wall so we could mount the box. (Ted, that stuff was waaaay softer than when you were here. :)

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2929.jpg

The box will be hidden when all said and done with this project.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2934.jpg

Was a pretty interesting wire pull with 3 90° and 2 45° turns. We used Steve's 100' fish tape.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2937.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2938.jpg

Wired up a GFCI where the existing plug was.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2939.jpg

Steve asked if I wanted the water feature to be on a switch, so I wouldn't have to crawl behind it and plug it in each time to turn it on. Of course I said, "Shit yes!"

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2940.jpg

Weather proof switch cover. (looks like I have something important to turn on and off). I may paint that red part to black or white.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2942.jpg

So this went from the right side of the pic behind the bbq to the left side of the pic to the tiki. Don't mind the smoke in the sky. The Corona and Chino fire's smoke made it all the way here with the Santa Ana winds.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/HB_Tiki/Backyard%20Crash/IMG_2930.jpg

Is the firepit and bench "real" in the last photo or still Photchopped?? I'm so confused:confused: ;)

WOW! that super cool looking!








Jeff - :navajo:

Is the firepit and bench "real" in the last photo or still Photchopped?? I'm so confused:confused: ;)

Yes, that is a real pic. :)

We cut the cement to get the conduit from the house to the spot that tbars left it to hook up to. Enough room to get a water pipe in there also.

A built-in bong??? :notworthy :smokinfro

Is the firepit and bench "real" in the last photo or still Photchopped?? I'm so confused:confused: ;)

I'm glad you asked, because I was confused as well, haha.

Looks great Colin. Nice work!