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Stic-o
01-31-2009, 08:46 PM
So it's been about six month sense we bought our place, and today we desided to use a 10% off coupon we had for Lowes that was expiring today.
We plan to redo all 3 of the bathrooms in time. This was the smallest, and cheapest to stort with. So here we go...

This is what we are starting with. A 4'x6' room with a huge mirror and a ugly 70's shell sink:(

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Pow.jpg

Here we will rip out the Vanity, mirror, and med cab. that is on the wall next to the sink that you can not see. The painted over wallpapered walls will get striped and the faux hardwood floor will come. (this will be saved for replacement use if need in the rest of the house.)


This is what we are going for....
http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/patbat.jpg

Budget: Under $1000

Spent so far? About $700

We have:
Vanity with top
Med Cab.
Storage Cab.
Light Fixture
Sink Fixture
12"x12" Tile
Paint (missing from pic)
Bath Accs.

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Pow_Remodel.jpg

Demo starts soon:D

Tbars4
01-31-2009, 09:12 PM
...I'm getting the popcorn out...:popcorn:

...It looks like I'm going to be working/staying in La Canada/flintridge for a couple weeks...;)

X~FACTOR
01-31-2009, 09:30 PM
This is gonna be good. :)

lifeguard379
01-31-2009, 10:29 PM
:popcorn:

90ranajo
01-31-2009, 10:49 PM
Uh oh...

This isn't going to turn into something like the last bathroom remodel thread, is it?

Stic-o
02-01-2009, 02:27 AM
no no...we'll have other threads for the other bathrooms and the kitchen complete makeover a ways down the road.

besides, I don't need any permits here, just replacing whats there. no changes in wiring or plumbing. The next bathroom(master) will be down to the studs:D that one will get interesting. the master will probally get started tord the fall or so.:rolleyes:

Jarubell
02-01-2009, 08:37 AM
Looks like fun! I see the second picture and I was wondering how are you going to fit that design into a 4x6' room?:D

JDraper
02-01-2009, 08:53 AM
That bath definitely needs an upgrade :eek: . I like the look you're going for.:thumbsup:

cybergasm
02-01-2009, 09:57 AM
:popcorn:
This ought to be interesting.:D

Stic-o
02-01-2009, 01:48 PM
Looks like fun! I see the second picture and I was wondering how are you going to fit that design into a 4x6' room?:D

I fixed it for you...and other people that have IDC (imagination deprived condition):p:

Jarubell
02-01-2009, 09:10 PM
LOL. I do like the look your going for, have fun!:)

Stic-o
02-01-2009, 10:31 PM
:D


http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Demo.jpg

Tbars4
02-02-2009, 10:59 PM
...Are you already done ???...:D

..:scratch:..Hey, How is your Mom doing???...I hope all is well....

Stic-o
02-07-2009, 11:37 PM
DEMO!!!:D

Just about everything stripped, including the painted over walpaper:rolleyes:

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Pow2.jpg

Now I just have to remove the last two layers of flooring.:(

1st: ugly sponge print lenolium(sp?)tile
2nd: Stick on Marble
3rd: Hardwood Laminite

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Floor.jpg

Good news is the floor seems to perfecty level:thumbsup:

New 12x12 tile will go in once is all cleaned up.;)

Lil Bo Peep
02-07-2009, 11:46 PM
Looking good. I love doing home remodel projects like this. nice to know you "saved" some money by doing it yourself! Looking forward to seeing it done.

Stic-o
02-08-2009, 09:19 PM
Afer spend 4+ hours today chiping the lenoliam off the floor with a chisil and hammer:rolleyes: we move on...

Next step is to get the floor clean. The concreate still has a tackyness to it, and that means the morter will not stick:( I think first I'll patch, sand and prime the walls. Maybe even paint.

On another note..this is going to be a super easy tile job. only cuts need are around the toliet, 2 1/2" gap at the threshhold, and a 2" gap on the far wall behind the toliet:cool: Stay Tunned!!!

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/powtile.jpg

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/powtile2.jpg

JIGAWHAAT
02-08-2009, 10:11 PM
I just finished a bathroom remodel for a costumer. I hate bathrooms! You just never know what kind of can of worms you are opening as far as water damage until you start gutting! My last one was a nightmare. I hope yours goes smooth.
Jiga

RockRanger
02-08-2009, 10:51 PM
I would shift the tiles over 6". That way instead of having a 2" wide tile on one end, both ends will have a 7" tile. Guess it is a little late but the flooring could have had asbestus in it as well.

looking like a fun time.

BrooklynBay
02-08-2009, 10:52 PM
Do you have access to a tile cutter?

Stic-o
02-08-2009, 10:58 PM
Yes I have access to a Wet saw, my dad bought once when they did there den. Right now it's still at my father-in-laws though, sence he did his kitchen awile back;)

Didn't even think about the asbestus factor:( I need to be more careful...well it's to late now, let's hope for the best.

Not worried about about the 2"s at the far wall. there is a step down on the wall, and the 2"'s on the other side of the toliet. You'll never see it unless your looking for it.

BrooklynBay
02-08-2009, 11:00 PM
Is it the small, portable type or the heavy duty model like Tom was using on his remodel?

dogfriend
02-08-2009, 11:00 PM
Guess it is a little late but the flooring could have had asbestus in it as well.



Yeah, I was thinking this too. Depending on when the linoleum was put down, the linoleum and/or the adhesive could have asbestos in it.

Stic-o
02-08-2009, 11:31 PM
Place was built in '73 so it is very possiable:(

Tile cutter is portable, sort of, it's heavy I know, and it will not fit in the truck of the Volvo:rolleyes:

dogfriend
02-08-2009, 11:46 PM
Place was built in '73 so it is very possiable:(



Wear a respirator if you have it, wet down the area if you have to scrape, put the debris in sealed plastic bags and keep your mouth shut about where it came from. ;)

Stic-o
02-08-2009, 11:53 PM
Wear a respirator if you have it, wet down the area if you have to scrape, put the debris in sealed plastic bags and keep your mouth shut about where it came from. ;)

I have no idea what your talking about:D

Blee1099
02-09-2009, 12:11 AM
If you see the remnants of a 8x8" or 9x9 tile or the adhesive, it may be abstesos. Absestos was around till the 80s so chances are very high it contained it at one point. Your gonna need to raise the toilet flange but I'm sure you know that :p A easy way to make the tile centered is to find the center point of the floor and try to map the tiles that way. If you run into a issue where the tiles are off centered in the door way you can always move the center point over to make it look more aesthetic

tdavis
02-09-2009, 02:43 AM
In the state of California, flooring (not the mastic/glue) is usually consider non-friable. Since you didn't grind or sand the floor, you should be safe.

It's totally legal in California for you (the homeowner) to remove the tiles, bag them, and dispose of them at the local hazardous waste center..

As for the toilet flange, leave it alone, just get an extended height wax ring, or stack two of them together.

BrooklynBay
02-09-2009, 10:24 AM
This extension ring might help you: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H5VY08.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41yoPz-hOqL._SL500_AA280_.jpg
You could add as many as necessary to get the correct height.

Stic-o
02-09-2009, 11:48 AM
Toliet should not be to much problem. After removing the three layers of flooring, the tile will about the same.:D

..I was going to grind the floor clean to get the glue up...but I guess that's a bad idea now:( I'm think Goo be gon, or I have some citrus paint stripper stuff that smells good:D

tdavis
02-09-2009, 11:51 AM
That's concrete, correct?

Go to HD, and find the mastic remover and a tungsten paint scraper.

That's what I used on my bathroom floor, and it does get off. Of course, you will be
very, very sore afterwards.

Stic-o
02-09-2009, 12:07 PM
yeah, concrete slab. It's not bad...just tacky in a few places. Might as well do it right though;) At least it's a very small room:rolleyes:

Besides it's can't any worce then chisiling away that stuff for 4 hours. Let just say I have a whole new level or respect for Mt. Rushmore:p:

kert0307
02-09-2009, 12:19 PM
I feel your pain for removing the lenolium. I used warm water, a paint scraper and large ice scraper to remove mine. (stripper didn't seem to work better so I used the water so there wasn't the fumes)

Stic-o
02-14-2009, 08:04 PM
lots of progress today...and the last few days:rolleyes:

Got the medicine cabinet hole filled, primed, painted, installed new lighting and the wall cabinets were mounted. The vanity and toliet is just sitting so the cabinets cound be mounted right. Tommorow I'll start the tile. ;)

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/powcab.jpg

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/powcab2.jpg

RockRanger
02-14-2009, 09:54 PM
looking good Steve. Get it done so you can come out to KOH :D

BrooklynBay
02-14-2009, 10:32 PM
It looks good so far. How long do you estimate the whole job will take to complete?

Stic-o
02-15-2009, 07:50 PM
Tile went in today.;) Tommorow afternoon we grout, and the Probally Next weekend we wrap it up. Vanity and toliet will go back in, then just have to change out the outlet and switch, mount towel rack...Oh and the the base boards.

I think it's not to bad for my first tile job:thumbsup:

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/powtile3.jpg

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/powtile4.jpg

RockRanger
02-16-2009, 12:04 AM
What tile is that you used? Looks real close to the tile in my house. except mine are 18" tiles.

Maybe I will stop by tommorow and take a look. I am heading that way.

Stic-o
02-17-2009, 08:49 PM
:dunno:Tile is some 12x12 I got at Lowes.

I got everthing grouted yesterday...just going tru the waiting prosess now..

On another not...it just got a bit more $$$:(

The toliet tank was sitting in the garage, when I walked buy and bumped it. Then there was a crash...and I busy with a dust pan and broom :banghead:

zukman
02-18-2009, 01:08 PM
Toilet sitting outside backdoor from bathroom-laundry swap COME and GET it! Its free!!!!

Stic-o
02-20-2009, 03:19 PM
let the fun begin... the grout is set, the tile is sealed. Now we put it all back together...or do we? :(


Not sure what to do with this gap:(
http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/pow_van.jpg

I know, I know...what your thinking, but the cabinet is dead level in the picture...the wall is all out of wack:rolleyes: 3/4"-1" at the top of the cabinet.

So what do I do? molding to hide it? make a wedge piece to fill it? :confused:

dogfriend
02-20-2009, 03:23 PM
If you were Norm Abrams, you would make the cabinet from scratch and include a side piece that you could scribe and trim to fit the wall. :p:

Blee1099
02-20-2009, 03:26 PM
let the fun begin... the grout is set, the tile is sealed. Now we put it all back together...or do we? :(


Not sure what to do with this gap:(
http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/pow_van.jpg

I know, I know...what your thinking, but the cabinet is dead level in the picture...the wall is all out of wack:rolleyes: 3/4"-1" at the top of the cabinet.

So what do I do? molding to hide it? make a wedge piece to fill it? :confused:

I'd get a piece of shoe moulding and use it as a gap filler or maybe trim out the cabinet so it has an accent piece of quarter round, shoe moulding, etc..

tdavis
02-20-2009, 03:27 PM
hmm..

you remove drywall at the bottom, that will close the gap up some.

you could pull all the drywall down, and replace it - shim it flat in the process. How big is the wall? They make 1/4" drywall, you could shim the wall and put that up over the old drywall.

RockRanger
02-20-2009, 03:42 PM
Fill it with caulk and paint it :D.


Pretty much what everyone else above said or a combo of all of them.

dogfriend
02-20-2009, 03:46 PM
I was being a smart a$$ with my first answer, but seriously, most walls are not all that straight, especially in older houses. I like Ben's suggestion.

Dannyboy
02-20-2009, 04:32 PM
well, I'm sure you're going to miss checking out your johnson when you're taking a wizz, I never could figure that out about the big 70s style pornstar mirrors. Especially when you're getting full frontal of yourself taking a wizz.

As for that gap on the wall, make sure you have clearance to open your cabinet doors. I had to space mine out with a piece of trim but it was because the drawer would have hit the door trim and not opened as far.

I learned on mine to set the cabinet first, as you have an inch or two of play on the sink to butt that up to the wall. Old houses are amazing at out "out of square" things can be.

Stic-o
02-20-2009, 04:33 PM
well at the bottom of the wall is a high spot in the middle:rolleyes: So I squared it up and leveled it again, screwed it in to the wall, after leveling again, and now we're only 1/2" off... it's better.:rolleyes: I need to get the floor molding in first, then I'll worry about it.

back to work....

Stic-o
02-20-2009, 05:01 PM
well, I'm sure you're going to miss checking out your johnson when you're taking a wizz, I never could figure that out about the big 70s style pornstar mirrors. Especially when you're getting full frontal of yourself taking a wizz.

The mirror is yours if you want it!:p:

Tbars4
02-20-2009, 05:28 PM
...You'll need to find some scribe molding that is the same color...;)

...That is the main purpose of scribe molding. Hopefully you can get it from where you got the cabinet...Scribe molding is commonly found as 3/4" wide but some company's carry 1" plus for their cabinets... You secure the scribe with 23 ga. pinner nails...

...If you can find the scribe, I may know someone who could swing by next week and pin it on for you....

Stic-o
02-20-2009, 06:18 PM
no big deal ted, but thanks;)

Just got done putting in the base boards, there not 100% perfect, more like 95%. I borrowed my father in-laws small nail gun and my compresser is kinda old...well it just died ...kinda:( But at least I finished. The compressers switch went out, so it would kick off when It reached the psi I had set, nor could i flip it off at the switch. It just kept going...I kept thinking from the other room..." shouldn't that thing have kicked off by now :scrath: Had to go unplug it, although I'm sure the releaf would have kicked in...

Once I get a job I'll be replacing it....I bought it off CL about 4-5 years ago for cheap, and it had been rebuilt already then. If any body whats to mess with it I'll make you a sweet deal;) I'm done with it, and need something bigger anyway.

Built in '95 it's a Craftsman 12 Gal. 1.5hp. It has wheels and stuff. Unsure of inside of tank, Havn't been able to get the drain plug off sense I got it.:(


I always have my power tank if I need it :p:

Stic-o
02-20-2009, 10:05 PM
ok..we're going to call this complete...there are few small things like calking and stuff, but it basicly done, and fully working. :thumbsup: The wife was nice enough to bless it.:D

Remember this what we started with..

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Pow.jpg



...and in less the 3 weeks...

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Powdone1.jpg

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Powdone2.jpg

http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/powdone3.jpg

dogfriend
02-20-2009, 10:26 PM
Looks nice.

BrooklynBay
02-21-2009, 10:06 PM
It came out very nice! I'm impressed with the detail of the floor tile spacing, and smooth cuts. The accuracy of the cuts on the baseboard moulding came out nice too. I've seem many sloppys jobs which were done by so called "professionals", and your job came out much nicer.:thumbsup: