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Derrick C.
03-19-2001, 05:18 PM
to start it off!
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1407902&a=10524068&p=43577973
here is how close I was to the rim which was 300 feet to the bottom!!!
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1407902&a=10524068&p=43577209
here are the two tow trucks bringing it back over.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1407902&a=10524068&p=43579569

some of you have already seen these pics in the chat room and heard my story, so this is for everyone else. The total damage was driver door , passenger door, front windshield, dents in the roof, repainted fender, repainted hood, new clutch(complete system), and a broken ego. Cost of damage was $3200 to $4000. The thing that makes it even worse is this was the week that the dana 44 was to be installed. I just figured "one more outing with the IFS and then to the garage." Man that was a bad idea!!

RFR2212
03-19-2001, 05:25 PM
Ah....The joys of living in the midwest....no straight 300 drops.....glad to know yer okay....broken ego eh? I wouldn't worry too much, seein as how now it's another story to tell around the campfire!
Hope everythin gets fixed fine!
Pete

tdavis
03-19-2001, 05:28 PM
I'm suprised the seats came out ok.. I'd be hanging on to them with my butt so tight...

mattadams
03-19-2001, 05:54 PM
DAMN!!!!
I think that is the scariest roll of them all, knowing your so close to a rim like that. I saw a picture of a rollover on black bear pass here in colorado where they had rolled so close to the edge (also a very steep dropoff) that part of the winshield was actually hanging over the ledge... talking about messin your pants for the next 20 minutes or so! Great pictures! Definately glad you are OK and that you weren't about 10 feet closer!

leebo
03-19-2001, 05:55 PM
Was there still somebody in there when you turned it back over?? It almost looks like it in the third photo.

If so....man you got some guts...I'd be out of there as soon as I can.

Derrick C.
03-19-2001, 06:08 PM
The truck was vacated in about 2 seconds and the seat was a little dirty j/k lol Will anybody vote for me in the next Rollover Posse Election? Scariest moment of my life but I'm sure there will be others. Just not next to the rim with a 300 foot drop off.

RobbieJ
03-19-2001, 07:59 PM
We call that damage custom trail body work, some people shave there door handles and some smash the doors . No Big deal, its kind of like a wear to fit thing. You should have just hosed off the dirt and driven it to the shop and had the 44 installed. If I were you I'd learn how to do body work! I defonately think you win the Oh $hit award! Robbie J

drmoore71
03-19-2001, 09:44 PM
you already have my vote for the next "best whoops" contest! i'm glad you're okay. good luck with the repairs!

tdavis
03-19-2001, 10:11 PM
Don't worry, your now an Official Member of the RollOverPosse.

Your just not geting nominated for president, until DiffWhackDaddy's term is over.

Derrick C.
03-19-2001, 10:25 PM
Oh H*** yeah!!!
What else can a guy ask for!?! Member of The RollOver Posse, and votes for the "Best Whoops" contest, man it just don't get any better then this!!!



Oh wait a sec, my truck back would be nice!!!hehehehe

Thanks for the replys guys!!!

Rick
03-20-2001, 12:33 AM
So how did you roll the truck there? It doesn't look like there is anything there to cause a roll...

rpenner54
03-20-2001, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Rick
So how did you roll the truck there? It doesn't look like there is anything there to cause a roll...

That was my question too. Also not to be an ass or nothing but is there a trail there?

gijoecam
03-20-2001, 01:52 PM
On the pucker-factor scale from 1-10, that's gotta be somewhere around 18!!! That's nuts! I do want to hear how it happened, though? Was there a rut or something? Who was with you at the time?

-Joe-

GJarrett
03-20-2001, 02:49 PM
(He's got my vote too, Tom. Studdedx should hereby be officially declared a member of the Rollover Posse. And anyone who would roll it over that close to a lethal ledge deserves nomination for next president when DiffWhackDaddy's time is up!)

I don't feel so bad about my new Clayton whoops now.

I'm glad you're okay. That's cutting it a little close for my liking. Where was that at? The scenery is spectacular, though I am sure that the view from inside the vehicle would have looked better from a level perspective. :D

Derrick C.
03-20-2001, 06:01 PM
Location was along the Snake River here in Idaho. I was out makin my own trails when I decided to check out Pillar falls so I drove over by the rim and got out to look and I didn't feel like turning around so I looked around to find a exit. There were big rock mounds and I saw a spot to go around so I drove forward not paying attention to the ground and was just crawling along when boom it began to roll. I realized how close I was to the rim so my first thought was "here we go, one last ride!" When the truck came to rest I realized we weren't falling into the canyon and proceeded to exit the truck in lighting form. Looked at my truck and then my friend and began to flip out. Checked the damage and looked at what I fell into and noticed there was a 3 foot drop off into this hole. Some of you know that I run 36" tires and this hole was slightly taller then my tires. Called the dealership today and I should my rig back in about 1.5 weeks to 2 weeks. Hopefully I will see you all down in Moab sometime and we all can do some wheelin together. Gjarrett, I'll take that nomination for Rollover Posse president when the time comes. Thanks guys!!!

JDraper
03-20-2001, 06:29 PM
DAMN! I'll stick to my mild highway type rollovers. Definitely off the chart on the pucker factor. They probably would have had to surgically remove the seats from my a**!

Is your heart rate down below 500 yet???

mattadams
03-20-2001, 07:04 PM
hey now, I think making yoru own trails especially in a habitat such as near a cliff edge really knocks you down the list of potential presidents of the rollover posse. Not to be mean or anything, but that is not only not intelligent but pretty irresponsible as well.

Derrick C.
03-20-2001, 07:20 PM
matt your not fully understanding me here!!! This is in a OHV park and we were following some motorcycle trails and had a idea of cutting across this rocky terrain to check out the falls. There was actually a road right there but I didn't want to go that direction so I was going to drive somewhat along the rim(about 15-20 feet away) and meet up with the main road but while checkin out the the view hit this hole that you couldn't really see when I decided which way the main road was. And you know the rest of the story. I would never go out wheelin next to a 300 foot drop for $hits and giggles, I just wish I payed more attention to the ground instead of the river.

rpenner54
03-21-2001, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by mattadams
hey now, I think making yoru own trails especially in a habitat such as near a cliff edge really knocks you down the list of potential presidents of the rollover posse. Not to be mean or anything, but that is not only not intelligent but pretty irresponsible as well.

I am glad I am not the only one thinking that. Sure you rolled but it was pretty dang dumb. I mean if you had stayed on the trail and walked over to the edge you would've been fine. I guess if thats private property and the owners don't mind you blazing your own trails thats cool too but there sure are a lot of plants out there that I am sure got destroyed and if greenies see this I am sure they will work on closing it down. Plus all it takes is one person to start the next trail and soon there is another unauthorized trail there and then the Forest Service has to get involved with closing it off and teaching people that once they start that its all down hill from there.

I guess what I am saying is just don't make a habbit of that unless its on private property and you have permission. Its just not wise.

mattadams
03-21-2001, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by studdedx
matt your not fully understanding me here!!! This is in a OHV park and we were following some motorcycle trails and had a idea of cutting across this rocky terrain to check out the falls. There was actually a road right there but I didn't want to go that direction so I was going to drive somewhat along the rim(about 15-20 feet away) and meet up with the main road but while checkin out the the view hit this hole that you couldn't really see when I decided which way the main road was. And you know the rest of the story. I would never go out wheelin next to a 300 foot drop for $hits and giggles, I just wish I payed more attention to the ground instead of the river.

OK let me clarify a bit. You were four-wheeling in an OHV park. OK, that's cool... we weren't on private property or ruining forest service property, thats a good thing. Weren't following a trail, that's bad. Weren't keeping your eyes on the road while four-wheeling, REAL bad. Were going to fast, once again, real bad. You were going to fast, not keeping your eyes on the road, while within a good distance of a 300 foot dropoff, REAL BAD. I'm glad your ok and all, but it sounds like a lot of mistakes were made that could have been easily avoided.
By the way, following motorcycle trails is a bad habit to make. Motorcycles can go a hell of a lot more places then trucks can and you'll find yourself in trouble later on down the trail when you reach a spot the motorcycles and ATV's could get through no problem, but you can't.

Just trying to keep it all in perspective :).

Derrick C.
03-21-2001, 05:29 PM
Let me clarify one thing for you guys, before you start judging me. Making trails here in this area is what we do here and we (off-road club) keep manage of this area and keep it clean. This is how we find all of the interesting sections. There is not a section of a motorcycle trail I've ever had to turn around on. I walk all trails like that to see what it is all about. My elite pic is on a motorcycle trail. And as going to fast I was maybe, maybe doing 2 m.p.h. Yes I wasn't paying attention and I take full credit for that mistake. It won't be repeated!! The only type of plants there is to kill is sagebrush which we burn every year. The only thing I did wrong was drive to close , not looking in front of me, and rolling my truck. So I'm sorry I seemed to offend some of you by my wheelin pics. You guys just don't understand how this area works when it comes to the OHV area.

mattadams
03-21-2001, 05:51 PM
you may be right... ryan and I are from here in Colorado where there really is no OHV parks... just forest service lands... and out here you really have to watch what you do. You put ruts in the land, suprise, you've just closed a trail. That's exagerrating a bit but you see the point. There aren't a lot of "make your own trail" areas as there are there. In fact if you try and make your own typically you can do what ryan talked about, getting trails closed down because one person went one way, then a few more, then they were in areas where they shouldn't be and trails had to be closed. It seems you'd have to be going faster then 2 mph but you may be right on that as well and I apologize for jumping to the conclusion that you were going too fast. They shut down our trails on a regular basis and all we can do is try our best to repair them and clean them up before they do, otherwise there shut down for good. In an OHV park you wouldn't exactly have to worry about that.

Derrick C.
03-21-2001, 06:24 PM
Matt,
No need to apolagize!! It just seemed to me you were making me out to be a suicidel dumb ass, who's out to get trails closed. People try to get the area closed all the time but there is just to much support from the off-road club and various dirt bike clubs. By exploring the way we do we have formed trails such as Devils Corall and The Play Pin. My two favs!! We make these trails that all people can enjoy not just us. I am sad to hear that you don't have the pleasure of doing things like this in your location. Maybe you can come up here and I'll show ya around. One last note! Does your BLM(Bureau of Land Management) monitor your trails? Ours only shows up to supervise the clean up we do. Real sad!!

mattadams
03-21-2001, 06:30 PM
I'm not sure exactly what the forest service (our BLM) does to decide when to close trails. I rarely see them patrolling trails but they must because I don't know how else they would decide which trails to close down. I've seen forest service jeeps on a few trails here and there but mainly only on forest service roads that lead to a destination they need to get to (for example a repeater station or power lines).

RangerX
03-22-2001, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by mattadams
It seems you'd have to be going faster then 2 mph ......

It's entirely possible to roll at that speed! My first roll was at a dead stop. I just turned the wheels a little while standing still, and onto my roof I went. It was also a fairly flat area, with one small rut that my front tire was in.
It's like throwing your back out. You don't have to be lifting 500 pounds for it to happen.

Derrick C.
03-23-2001, 06:19 PM
Just got off the phone with the Ford guys and I should have my truck back by Monday night. WOOOOO HOOOOO!!! I can't wait to get it back. I'm really jonesin for some 4 wheelin!!!

RobbieJ
03-24-2001, 05:29 PM
What about the 44? Is it still going to happen?

Derrick C.
03-24-2001, 10:02 PM
The 44 is still #1 on my to do list. I'm now thinkin of doing a dana 60 in the rear for total bullet proof. But thats still in the works.

Derrick C.
04-02-2001, 07:54 PM
This is to everyone that has been in a four wheelin roll-over. I took studdedx back out to the trails a few days after getting it back. I am now scared to do the things I did before. The first time it flex over to my side I stopped quickly and reversed to take a different line. So my question is this, Have any of you been able to shake this feeling in your gut or your mind? Any comments welcome. Thanks!!!!

tdavis
04-02-2001, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by studdedx
This is to everyone that has been in a four wheelin roll-over. I took studdedx back out to the trails a few days after getting it back. I am now scared to do the things I did before. The first time it flex over to my side I stopped quickly and reversed to take a different line. So my question is this, Have any of you been able to shake this feeling in your gut or your mind? Any comments welcome. Thanks!!!!

Yes.

It takes time. Drive slowly, try simple things. I still get willies when I see large, vertical, rock drop offs.

Of course, after the third roll, you don't care anymore anyway.. :-)

jimbo74
02-27-2002, 08:32 PM
cant see pics

Derrick C.
02-27-2002, 08:51 PM
Oh come on Jim!!! You've seen them before!!!;)
My pics were on photopoint and they're gone now so thats why the pics don't work. I'll post a 2 pics of this world famous roll over -k-.

Derrick C.
02-27-2002, 08:58 PM
#1...

Derrick C.
02-27-2002, 09:00 PM
#2...

Trckmagik
03-06-2002, 08:26 AM
I know what you mean! Now everytime I go out I get the shakes just thinking about when I rolled my 2001.http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=37375

Derrick C.
04-05-2002, 01:35 AM
Well I can say after a year I'm back to my foolish ways.

Well not really but I do walk everything I'm about to go over. No more just look and drive. I walk first. I even went back there last weekend and the paint from the side of my X is still on the rocks!!!:D


I have now left my mark on this world!!!