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tbomb
01-28-2002, 02:28 PM
alright, with the design of my rims, i cant use clamp on weights, they have to be stick ons, and i just noticed that theyre already flying off and i just had them rebalanced about 6 weeks ago; wtf? i knew before i got the rims how the weights had to be, and i knew the stick ons were terrible, but this is ridiculous - its been 6 weeks and im losing them already, and since im at school, my truck just sits, i barely drive it up here.

conclusion: stick on wheel weights are the epitome of crap.

anyone know something that i dont about how to make em not fly off or something?

thanks.

JDraper
01-28-2002, 03:34 PM
Have the shop put the weights only on the backside (balance won't be as good, but you probably won't notice it), and have them epoxied on. You can get the epoxy off later with a little heat, as long as they aren't pastic coated rims.

tbomb
01-28-2002, 03:41 PM
thats where the weights all were, on the back side. the rims are clear coated though.

Trckmagik
01-28-2002, 04:22 PM
I had these wieghst on my 17" w/ 35's and was going through rivers and what not and never had a problem.

nosaj122081
01-28-2002, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by trckmagik
I had these wieghst on my 17" w/ 35's and was going through rivers and what not and never had a problem.

Yeah, I've had the same stick-on wheel weights on my Mach 1 for 2 years and one of my Talons had stick ons and I've never had a problem... Maybe your shop did a shoddy install job, didn't clean the wheels real well or something. I hate wheel weights on the fronts of wheels, so I always use the stick ons.

tbomb
01-28-2002, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by nosaj122081


Yeah, I've had the same stick-on wheel weights on my Mach 1 for 2 years and one of my Talons had stick ons and I've never had a problem... Maybe your shop did a shoddy install job, didn't clean the wheels real well or something. I hate wheel weights on the fronts of wheels, so I always use the stick ons.

the shop i took it to is actually the best alignment shop in my area, heh. those damn things just fly off, though; they stink and everyone knows it; anywhere you go and anyone you talk to will tell ya that theyll probably fly off. i just wish there was a way to keep em on there, but i guess not.

Nonoy
01-28-2002, 05:57 PM
The rims should be wiped with a brake cleaner or a throttle body cleaner before sticking it in or for sure it with fly off. After doing this I cant even take the sticky tape off my rims. I have to use a blade to scrath it off.:exp:

tbomb
01-28-2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Nonoy
The rims should be wiped with a brake cleaner or a throttle body cleaner before sticking it in or for sure it with fly off. After doing this I cant even take the sticky tape off my rims. I have to use a blade to scrath it off.:exp:

well, the tape is still on my wheels, but the weights are gone.

Nonoy
01-28-2002, 06:04 PM
Must be a poor kind of stick-on-weights.:hammer:

tbomb
01-28-2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Nonoy
Must be a poor kind of stick-on-weights.:hammer:

must be. im so annoyed. i mean, i love the guy i know down at the alignment shop (in the last year i gave him a lot of business), but its such a PITA to go back for something that really shouldnt happen, and its really not his fault either.

Nonoy
01-28-2002, 06:14 PM
I know the feeling. I have a friend like that too and he is the one who gave me the weights in case I lost it.:exp:

RTStork
01-28-2002, 07:46 PM
TBOMB, make sure the wheel is clean of brake dust, road grime, etc. and after the weights have been stuck on, put a strip of duct tape over them. I've done this before and it really works. Just make sure there is no brake dust or the tape won't stick. i use rubbing alcohol to clean the wheel where the weights and tape go. Since the weights are on the inside you won't see the tape.

tbomb
01-28-2002, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by RTStork
TBOMB, make sure the wheel is clean of brake dust, road grime, etc. and after the weights have been stuck on, put a strip of duct tape over them. I've done this before and it really works. Just make sure there is no brake dust or the tape won't stick. i use rubbing alcohol to clean the wheel where the weights and tape go. Since the weights are on the inside you won't see the tape.

sounds like a plan. the next time i go home, ill have my wheels balanced again and ill clean em up real good and put some duct tape on there.

thanks.

Hartman
01-28-2002, 09:09 PM
How did you notice that they'd fallen off in the first place?

tbomb
01-28-2002, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Hartman
How did you notice that they'd fallen off in the first place?

thats a damn good question. heres the part where you either relate to me or you think im a loser (which i will not deny ;) .) i had to run out to get some cdrw's today and when i got out of my truck, i walked about 5' away and turned around to check it out (i dont get to look at my truck very often; i never drive it at school and its parked far from my apartment) and i noticed the tape on the inside of the wheel and walked up to it and the weights were gone, so i checked all the wheels, but it was only the driver side rear one.

Jason_25
01-28-2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by tbomb

heres the part where you either relate to me or you think im a loser (which i will not deny ;) .) i had to run out to get some cdrw's today and when i got out of my truck, i walked about 5' away and turned around to check it out

I can relate. Sometimes I will even walk backwards a few steps while looking at it.

alphasylum
01-28-2002, 09:35 PM
school me....what do these things look like & do?

Hartman
01-28-2002, 09:46 PM
Alpha, they're little weights that keep the wheels aligned properly. On stock rims, they are usually clamped in the outer rim of the wheel. On custom rims, the stick-on ones are usually the way to go because you don't want the weights visible.

tbomb
01-28-2002, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Hartman
Alpha, they're little weights that keep the wheels aligned properly. On stock rims, they are usually clamped in the outer rim of the wheel. On custom rims, the stick-on ones are usually the way to go because you don't want the weights visible.

yup, though the stick on ones SUCK! :p

alphasylum
01-28-2002, 09:58 PM
Great another problem I'll be facing.
How many go on each wheel and how much do they cost?

I'd imagine your pissed because you have to buy newones if you lost them tbomb?

Anyone have pics of these things?

aldive
01-28-2002, 10:03 PM
The number and placement depends on the wheel/tire in question; all are different.

Some os the stick on's look like this:

Rick
01-28-2002, 10:09 PM
An old drag racing trick is to duct tape them on. That's how my beadlocks are setup.

Hartman
01-28-2002, 10:11 PM
LOL Sara you act like it's gonna be some huge expense, they're just little pieces of metal!!!

alphasylum
01-28-2002, 10:15 PM
Hartman, Your making fun of me.

01EB5.0
01-28-2002, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by tbomb
alright, with the design of my rims, i cant use clamp on weights, they have to be stick ons, and i just noticed that theyre already flying off and i just had them rebalanced about 6 weeks ago; wtf? i knew before i got the rims how the weights had to be, and i knew the stick ons were terrible, but this is ridiculous - its been 6 weeks and im losing them already, and since im at school, my truck just sits, i barely drive it up here.

conclusion: stick on wheel weights are the epitome of crap.

anyone know something that i dont about how to make em not fly off or something?

thanks.
I always request these weights..keeps the rims nicer. Duct Tape works wonders..just put 2 strips of duct tape over the weights in a X pattern. I've done off roading, water, snow, etc all of them are still there!

FrankRizzo
01-28-2002, 10:37 PM
T

Just take a zip screw and......

Is there no bead on the inside of your (way cool looking) rims to clamp regular weights to?? If they are on the inside, no issue with scratches & you can't see the weights thru the spokes.

You must not give up - YOU are probably the only person that will understand when I launch my Cobra R's for something else!!!!!!

tbomb
01-28-2002, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by FrankRizzo
T

Just take a zip screw and......

Is there no bead on the inside of your (way cool looking) rims to clamp regular weights to?? If they are on the inside, no issue with scratches & you can't see the weights thru the spokes.

You must not give up - YOU are probably the only person that will understand when I launch my Cobra R's for something else!!!!!!

nope, on the inside theres nothing to clamp the other style weights onto.

frankrizzo, what do you plan on getting when you chuck the cobra r's? ;) and how come youre getting rid of em?

and thanks everyone for the input, im definitely gonna do the duct tape thing.

sarah, ya know when you go get your wheels balanced?...it costs like $10 per wheel. its no big deal, im just annoyed that i have to go back to the shop to have it done, i really dont care too much about the $10. the way they balance wheels is they take em off the truck, put em on a wheel balancer and it spins the wheel and tells the guy where there needs to be a weight attached, so the wheels spins smoothly. if you go out and look at your stock wheels, im sure theres weights on em, probably on the outside; look around the edges - those are the clamp on style. with most cool wheels, you cant use those (some you can, but you should only put em on the inside so you cant see em.)

Speedfreak
01-29-2002, 12:45 AM
Hey tbomb

Is it a possibility that there was a wieght there but was in the wrong spot so it was removed and a new on was put on else where? I worked in a tire shop for a year and a half and let me say that balancing with stick on wieghts is an art form. If the guy balancing the rim and tire stuck the wieght on and respun it, the wieght may have made the balance worse so it was removed and but else where or not put back on because it really wasnt required. The guy may have bein in too much of a hurry to clean off the old tape. I have personnally never seen the wieghts fall off except in extreme situations.

01EB5.0
01-29-2002, 01:03 AM
If tape residue is still on the wheels I would say it was ment to be pulled off..if it simply fell off I doubt any residue would be left.

tbomb
01-29-2002, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Speedfreak
Hey tbomb

Is it a possibility that there was a wieght there but was in the wrong spot so it was removed and a new on was put on else where? I worked in a tire shop for a year and a half and let me say that balancing with stick on wieghts is an art form. If the guy balancing the rim and tire stuck the wieght on and respun it, the wieght may have made the balance worse so it was removed and but else where or not put back on because it really wasnt required. The guy may have bein in too much of a hurry to clean off the old tape. I have personnally never seen the wieghts fall off except in extreme situations.

not possible because on the one wheel, theres no weights at all on there. its not like he moved the weight and left the tape stuck on.

its weird that nobody has heard of this before - i thought this was common knowledge that stick on weights fall off all the time. ive had numerous mechanics tell me this, ive experienced it, as well a bunch of my friends who build street machines told me too.

01EB5.0
01-29-2002, 02:31 PM
I was warned at the tire place that they would fall off but I didn't care. just put duct tape on the next day.

FrankRizzo
01-30-2002, 01:10 AM
frankrizzo, what do you plan on getting when you chuck the cobra r's? and how come youre getting rid of em?

I could ask you the same thing (why did you get rid?).
Basically the 3/16 spacer + 17x9 size means they stick out a couple of inches past the front fenders. This means they it looks bogus and sprays debris all down the side of the vehicle.

I'm actually just starting to look around.....Were your rims 18 x 8 or 18 x 7?
Do they stick out at all?

jimbo74
01-30-2002, 01:25 AM
i used to work at americas tire company... those stick on weights do fine IF they are put on properly.... the rim surface must be void of all grease and brake dust or they wont stick....race cars use the sickons... then they put duct tape over them... i have a;lso seen clamp on weights fall off on the road too...... wheel balance with wieght is not a perfected science, and never will be until we get to jetson cars ;)

tbomb
01-30-2002, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by FrankRizzo


I could ask you the same thing (why did you get rid?).
Basically the 3/16 spacer + 17x9 size means they stick out a couple of inches past the front fenders. This means they it looks bogus and sprays debris all down the side of the vehicle.

I'm actually just starting to look around.....Were your rims 18 x 8 or 18 x 7?
Do they stick out at all?

i figured since earlier you mentioned that id probably be the only one to understand why youre getting rid of your cobra r's, that you read some of my threads about it...guess not ;) i had some issues with the 1" spacers.

anyway, when you ask about my rims being 18x7 or 18x8, do you mean my new ones? theyre 17x8, and on my truck they do not stick out. they come right to the edge of the fender flare, but on your truck, i think theyll stick out (they have a 0 offset.)

and, what size tires are you running? most guys with cobra r's arent running anything bigger than a 275 55 r17 and arent using spacers, so they dont stick out at all (some guys claim they get some minimal rubbage on full wheel turn, but personally, i like the cobra r's so much, i would have just dealt with it, if that were my problem. oh well, my new rims kick ass anyway :D ) my tires were big, so i had to run spacers.

XLT_66
01-30-2002, 05:25 PM
I have a set of 17" x 8" rims wrapped with 275/55r17 tires and they have rubbed just a little bit whenever the wheel is turned absolutly all the way. Also, i have the stickons and i got stuck in the mud out in Elgin, Tx which is outside of Austin and i though i lost a weight because whenever i got up to aroun d70mps when i got out the truck started shakin like crazy, it turned out that i didn't love a weight, i just had a couple pebbles wedged in the back right wheel that threw off the whole balance...i washed it off and it was fine...

FrankRizzo
01-31-2002, 12:29 AM
and, what size tires are you running? most guys with cobra r's arent running anything bigger than a 275 55 r17 and arent using spacers, so they dont stick out at all (some guys claim they get some minimal rubbage on full wheel turn,

I'm running 275/55's. With the Saleen swaybar in front, they don't rub at all - it offsets in more than the stock. I thought for some reason that your rimz were 18's, they still look great though...

Clue me in....why would you use 1" spacers?? 3/16 clears everything, and you could really get away with no spacers if you were carefull at max. crankage of the wheel...

tbomb
01-31-2002, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by FrankRizzo


I'm running 275/55's. With the Saleen swaybar in front, they don't rub at all - it offsets in more than the stock. I thought for some reason that your rimz were 18's, they still look great though...

Clue me in....why would you use 1" spacers?? 3/16 clears everything, and you could really get away with no spacers if you were carefull at max. crankage of the wheel...

i had 1" spacers because my tires were 285 60 r17 :D you know what willy chu's truck looks like? www.willychu.com - my truck looked just like that but white (i think i still have some pics of of the cobra r's on my truck on my page - check em out if you want.)

Spas
05-14-2002, 11:02 PM
I know this thread's as old as dirt, but I just wanted to say thanks for the info-I had NO idea about stick on weights, and yes, I have had nearly ALL of the outside weights fly off of my stock rims...dunno why, but there's only two left. The truck still rides fine, however-it must be used to my lead foot now or something ;) The little buggers scratched the edges of the rims, too :fire: so no more outside weights for me. Does anybody know where to get high quality stick ons for relatively cheap? And I should put duct tape over them after they get stuck on, right? Thanks!

james t
05-15-2002, 02:57 PM
they will stick fine AS LONG AS the wheel is cleaned in the spot were the weight will go with alcohol/brake cleaner or whatnot. and yes, the duct-tape trick works well. i have had many sets of wheels over the years with stick-on weights and with the duct-tape they NEVER have come off.

mattadams
05-15-2002, 03:14 PM
tbomb, I can sympathize. When I got my new wheels (the black d-spoked rims) the shop i took it to (big o) used the stick-on's. By the time I got it home all but one set of weights had been flung out or dropped out at some point as they were no longer weighted.

Homer: "allright econo-chair, you just made THE LIST" LOL

GR899V8
05-15-2002, 07:12 PM
How about 1) get them rebalanced. 2) add the duct tape. 3) use a felt tip marker near each weight indicating how much they weigh. If they EVER come off, you can get a replacement and you're a happy camper! Centrifugal force should keep them on, I think it was dirty wheels or KMART weights...