View Full Version : What kind of on board air is everyone running???
Derrick C. 09-03-2003, 03:42 PM I'm running my ARB compressor and I have a portable Quick Air 2.
Just wondering what everyone else uses before leaving the trail or on the trail. Anyone use CO2 yet???
Brian1 09-03-2003, 04:22 PM I have been using CO2 for about 2 years now and love it. I started with a 20lb tank and about a year ago got another CO2 setup with a 5lb tank. I built both of the systems myself by scavenging the regulators guages, hoses, fittings and tanks. For both systems I probably have right around $100 into them total. If you make it yourself it is alot cheaper than a "powertank"
I ran a 5lb CO2 bottle from scavenged parts also, about $70 in the system. It worked really well with 31s, but a 5lb bottle isn't that great with 33s, it will only last for a short trip, not many repeated de/inflations.
RockRanger 09-03-2003, 08:43 PM I use a truck air. was about 35 bucks at wal mart if i remember right. It works fairly well but takes alot of time to air up tires.
Matt
tdavis 09-03-2003, 09:03 PM I use a Sanden compressor, driven by the engine.
It fills tires as fast as the CO2 does, and runs air tools. Several board members have taken advantage of this pump already. My sanden setup looks like this:
http://www.explorerforum.com/tdavis/zuk/engine-1.jpg
My previous 2 air compressors was the Truck Air compressor and a Viair 200h hard mount compressor.
The truckair compressor looks like this:
http://www.campingworld.com:8080/ts-cwi/images/products/Normal/13000/13832n.jpg?wid=250&cvt=jpeg
The viair looks like this:
http://www.tellico4x4.com/images/viair/20022-200H.jpg
The Viair I mounted in the back of the vehicle, where the spare tire used to go. Since I was running 35's, that location was just empty.. I placed it above a 5 gallon air tank, and it never had problems back there.
RangerX 09-03-2003, 10:58 PM When Tom is not around to mooch air off of, I use a TruckAir too. ;)
I've got a 10lb Powertank. Its great, although a bit expensive as mentioned. I can 3-4 trips out of it, airing up both my 35's and my brothers 33's.
tdavis 09-03-2003, 11:45 PM Originally posted by RangerX
When Tom is not around to mooch air off of, I use a TruckAir too. ;)
In thinking of this, the one time I wish we had picture of was when Rick bent that rim at Truckhaven. It was wild to see people wailing on that rim to get it back straight enough to hold air - and then it held air for another 3 months!
We used my compressor to re-seat the bead that day.
VA doesn't have roads that go far enough off a trail to have to "air" up after a ride, so I just air down and then rock the roads for 5-6 miles til I get to free air. Otherwise I just pump it up with a 12V air pump thyat does absolutely nothing...
I run CO2. It can be used to inflate the tires and can also be used as a shielding gas with my Ready Welder.
TimW94XL 09-05-2003, 08:50 PM I use C02, and it's great. I have two tanks one 20lb and a 5lb. I take the 20lb out when i'm with alot other people wheeln. I keep the the 5 lb as a back up, it will fill 33's 8 times before a refill. The 20lb will do it about 25 to 30 times before refills. Also whats nice is running air tools. The cost of refill out here aren't to bad about $11.00 for the 20lb tank. Havn't refilled the 5lb tank yet. I have about $90.00 tied up in both of them.
Positive Vibes 02-26-2004, 02:48 PM I'm looking to buy some type of air compressor. I have shied away from converting the AC compressor. So what is everybody else using???
general x 02-26-2004, 10:12 PM i want to mount a compressor on my x but i want somthing that can run air tools and im wondering what kind of psi's can the arb unit go to ? how hard is it to convert a ac pump (or is it possible)? thanx
RockRanger 03-21-2004, 08:20 PM Originally posted by general x
i want to mount a compressor on my x but i want somthing that can run air tools and im wondering what kind of psi's can the arb unit go to ? how hard is it to convert a ac pump (or is it possible)? thanx
The ARB will not run air tools unless you add a tank to it to store air in. Then it will only run tools till the tank runs out. IT is slow at filling tires back up as well. An ac pump can easily be converted and not that hard at all. www.onboardair.com has info on it as well. For more info do a search on the boards over at www.pirate4x4.com They will have plenty of info on there about the setups. They will beable to keep up without a problem with air tools. We are putting a york air compressor on my girlfriends jeep right now. We had one similar to tdavis setup before but are switching to the york cause we are swaping motors and the york was easier to do then the old setup.
Matt
sawdust123 03-21-2004, 08:28 PM call me crazy but I use a DC to AC inverter, with a small are compressor. it can run air tools on light apps. it fills tires up really fast and its a light weight compact setup. if I need to I can plug in AC powered tools and gadgets as well.
sk1er17 05-31-2004, 08:15 PM I just got the VIAIR 200H compressor and Diggers 2.5 gallon tank..
tdavis: Did you run a psi switch to have the compressor turn on and off or did you do it manually?
Blee1099 05-31-2004, 08:28 PM I'm in the works of running a Viair 300 series compressor along with a 5 gallon air tank. I just have to get a pressure switch along with a regular rocker switch to turn it on/off.
aldive 05-31-2004, 08:59 PM My son carries a scuba tank with an inflator fitting on a long hose from the regulator.
sk1er17 06-09-2004, 08:01 PM Im about to wire up my VIAIR 200H.. im a little short and cant quite make it to the batter though..
Can i disconnect a cig lighter and go off that or will the compressor pull too many amps for that wire?
Blee1099 06-09-2004, 08:04 PM Matt I would wire it directly using a heavy gauge wire. I ran mine to the battery using 8 gauge wire. You want someting that can handle atleast 30 amps of load. The stock wire off the cig. lighter probably can't handle that load. incidentally, I found out why mine wasn't holding air & pumping air effeciently. Apparently I actually rattled a fitting on my tank loose so I had to get out the old solder & propane gas torch & solder the fitting tight.
I would definately run it on a dedicated circuit.
How many amps does the comp pull?
sk1er17 06-09-2004, 08:10 PM it says max amps is 23. The wiring comming off the pump is only 14 gauge (12 max)
Ben: Yea man you made me nervous the other day thinking i wasted my money... your 300 series was struggling like hell!
it says max amps is 23.
Yea, it needs it's own circuit, unless you can find a heavy duty circuit with an extra 23 amp load left on it. :)
sk1er17 06-09-2004, 08:38 PM i knew i was a genious. Back in the day when i was wiring my reverse lights i ran an extra set of wires incase i ever wanted to put another set back there... well that wire happens to be the same gauge as the compressor wires.. its pre-hard wired to the battery with a switch already installed.. its getting dark out so i wanna finish hookin it up so i know how fast itll fill my tank.. :smoke:
ill let ya know how it turns out in a few min
Blee1099 06-09-2004, 08:48 PM it says max amps is 23. The wiring comming off the pump is only 14 gauge (12 max)
Ben: Yea man you made me nervous the other day thinking i wasted my money... your 300 series was struggling like hell!
Yeah I was worried too.. I got some soapy water and covered all the fittings and noticed the inlet side of the tank was leaking badly.. Luckily, I fixed it without exploding my truck.. Compressed air & propane torch = flaming Explorer
sk1er17 06-09-2004, 09:26 PM lol... you could have taken the tank out before hittin it with the torch ;)
:bounce:
This compressor/tank combo filled one of my tires from 8psi to 36psi in roughly 3-4 minutes (thats with the tank starting from 0psi.. let it air up till 140 and started filling
Positive Vibes 06-10-2004, 11:22 AM I got my quickair2 mounted in a old metal first aid box where the spare tire used to be. My bumper acts as a tank but still has some small pin holes but works good. Its sooooo nice being able to air up in a few mins after the trail.
sk1er17 06-10-2004, 11:34 AM The only thing i dont like is how hot the compressor gets.... but then again it has its own safety and shuts down automatically if it starts to overheat so that makes me feel better.
I just aired up my tank to 145psi and after about 10 minutes it went down to 140psi.. i guess its been almost 30 minutes now and its down to 132. Is this normal leakage? I know its hard to get it completely air tight but was wondering if maybe i should try re-sealing my connections. **I used teflon tape and this leakage is without my air-hose connected.
Savage Wolf 06-11-2004, 10:53 PM soapy water check all the fittings, also check how hot the air line to the tank is getting, higher temp air= higher pressure and then will drop in pressure when it cools (if the air is getting that hot) but check the fittings and some of those viair pumps may need check valves to keep them from leaking down
Blee1099 06-11-2004, 11:01 PM You'll get leakage even with teflon tape. I did on my inlet. Luckily I know how to do plumbing so I just put some solder on them and fixed them up.. I still haven't tested how long it takes to fill my tires up.. Maybe I'll do it tomorrow when I work on my truck..
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