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View Full Version : For slider, round or rectangle? swak6287 10-03-2003, 04:59 PM ok, building my slider. what would be better, long rectagular tube or round? if round, it would be easier cause we just buy a 2 inch thick steel pipe whereas rectangular we will have to find a place that actually has it. thanks. comment? Robb 10-03-2003, 05:28 PM Why would it be easier to get round tubing as opposed to rectangular? SiLenZe 10-03-2003, 05:43 PM get whatever is cheaper/stronger. the rocks dont care swak6287 10-03-2003, 06:05 PM cause thick metal pipe canbe found at any hardware store. Robb 10-03-2003, 06:10 PM Hardware store steel, or cast iron, pipe is made to plumb low pressure gas.......not as structural steel tubing. It would be a major mistake to build sliders out of it. You want to use steel tubing, not pipe. As far as using round or rectangular, I like the round. swak6287 10-03-2003, 06:18 PM steel tubing... i see. learn something new everyday. RangerX 10-03-2003, 09:55 PM Round has an advantage if you're using a high lift on it and your vehicle is not level... Premier 10-03-2003, 10:07 PM Buy some from CoryL..... They are round and totally kick a$$. EliteConcept 10-04-2003, 07:10 AM one of the 2 has to be stronger....what ever is stronger i would go with boominXplorer 10-04-2003, 09:14 AM the rectangluar is going to be stronger but if you put 3 braces on each one for each side there should be no problem with either lonestar 10-04-2003, 10:01 AM the strength of each depends mostly on the dimensions of the cross section. In bending, (which is what happens when you land on a rock) a rectangle tube [] would differ in strengh depending which way you turn it, like a 2X4. A round tube O does not matter. Then you have to consider overall size and wall thickness. Just my guess, round tube is probably cheaper in would give a better look. Hokie 10-04-2003, 12:25 PM Originally posted by lonestar the strength of each depends mostly on the dimensions of the cross section. In bending, (which is what happens when you land on a rock) a rectangle tube [] would differ in strengh depending which way you turn it, like a 2X4. A round tube O does not matter. Then you have to consider overall size and wall thickness. Just my guess, round tube is probably cheaper in would give a better look. AHHHHH! Visions of t=(VQ)/(It) and sigma = My/I just flashed through my head... emon 10-04-2003, 04:45 PM rectangle is stronger than round but uglier. Robb 10-04-2003, 08:38 PM Originally posted by emon rectangle is stronger than round but uglier. How do you figure? Brian1 10-04-2003, 08:44 PM I voted for neither because I like a combination of both. Rectangular tubing under the rocker pannel and then round tube extending out to protect the sides of the body and serve as a jacking point. I am going to be redoing my sliders in the future using this style and I am also using this style on my trail jeep. hvac man 10-05-2003, 06:54 PM well here is a pic of my round sliders Robb 10-05-2003, 09:08 PM Originally posted by Brian1 I voted for neither because I like a combination of both. Rectangular tubing under the rocker pannel and then round tube extending out to protect the sides of the body and serve as a jacking point. You can do all that with round tubing also............. http://crlcustoms.com/images/RobbsEx/slide3.jpg Crankcase 10-05-2003, 09:11 PM Wow...those are soo...Silver still! I have never seen that pic before....You holding out on us Robb? I have only seen the rusty pic:( Hokie 10-05-2003, 09:14 PM Robb, why don't those sliders extend a little farther front and rear? Seems like you could still catch a rock on the body behind the front wheel Robb 10-05-2003, 11:00 PM That pic is just shot at a weird angle. There really isn't room between the slider and the tires. It does look like there is a gap in the front, but there really isn't. Crankcase, are you kidding? I am holding back everything from the forums! You know this!:D Brian1 10-06-2003, 12:15 AM Originally posted by Robb You can do all that with round tubing also............. Yeah i know you can but I would much rather have a big rectangular tube protecting the rocker pannel instead of a small tube. For the outside the tube is fine. I also think it looks alot more beefy with a rectangular tube under the rocker and then round tubing extending out. I think RangerX has sliders like I am describing. SplashMan 10-06-2003, 01:45 AM Like these? CoryL is your man... DarkMan 10-08-2003, 12:12 PM I chose rectangular because it has a lower profile and still has plenty of strength. Most of you guys don't worry about a couple inches of clearance, but for an idiot stocker, every quarter inch counts. I started a project with 2" chrom-moly boiler pipe, but gave up when I realized that I'd lose all that ground clearance. When I get the bug again, I'm going to try to make something out of plate, like GJerratt has (or had) on his. I've already got all the braces built and holes drilled in the frame. I just have to get the slider itself and weld it to the braces. (All this cutting and welding was done by a friend in CO. I'm no welder.) 97XEB 10-08-2003, 03:17 PM I'm currently working with Richard Stubbs, owner and operator of Stubbs Welding, to have him modify a set of his Deluxe sliders for my 1997 Eddie Bauer. The Deluxe from Stubbs Welding are exactly what you want - square / rectangular main bar that goes just outside the pinch weld and then a rounded outter bar . Check out the thread I started - "Stubbs Welding rocksliders" - which is where I'm keeping everyone updated on progress. I also plan to post pics once I get everything worked out and installed. (Only wish I could stop by his shop, but since he's in Nortern CA and I'm in NJ this could take a while.) Richard's a super nice, professional guy to deal with and although he specializes in Toyotas, he's very willing to work with us Explorer owners. (Don't worry, I've already told him to check out this site.) PS: I did contact Cory (CRL) but unfortunately, he says he no longer makes assembled slider kits. (I guess he had a bad experience with a former customer.) So unless you can weld the bent and pre-cut peices, which I can't, we need to get them somewhere else. swak6287 10-08-2003, 04:59 PM one question. is 11 gauge thick enough for rectangular tubing. also, steel round tubing, they say "pipe 2" x sch 40". what is sch40? is that thick anough? hvac man 10-08-2003, 09:54 PM I would use schedual 80 and also "pipe" is considered by most to be just that, gas pipe for plumbers. Make sure that it is "tubing". If you get it from a hardware store then it is probably pipe and not tubing. Also if the steel you are getting is measured by inside diameter it is probably pipe. swak6287 10-10-2003, 02:46 PM quick question... is 1/8 thick enough for slider cause it is not much smaller then 3/16. Robb 10-10-2003, 04:59 PM Originally posted by swak6287 quick question... is 1/8 thick enough for slider cause it is not much smaller then 3/16. Another way to look at it is 3/16 is 50% thicker than 1/8.:D swak6287 10-13-2003, 06:29 PM alright, fyi. bought 4x2x1/8 for slider. a little thicker (2") then i wanted it but i guess it wouldnt hurt. will keep you guys informed. those suckers look big but we will see what it looks like when it get welded on tomorrow. Kirby N. 10-22-2003, 12:25 AM Heres mine, completely rectangle. I am going to add some tubing to protect the area behind the doorsSlider (http://groups.msn.com/KirbyandChuck/chuckybachelorpartychinamens.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=89) In action: (http://groups.msn.com/KirbyandChuck/chuckybachelorpartychinamens.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=95) Another one of my ideas, shown on the sliders me and My friend built: Joris sliders (http://groups.msn.com/KirbyandChuck/chuckybachelorpartychinamens.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=95) A Dring mount! ammo troop 11-19-2003, 12:59 AM Does anyone know of any strong sliders, round or rectangle for sale? I have a 2 door 93', Looking at something that would serve as a step as well, wife has problems getting into my truck! (smile). any help would be appreciated. thanks Crankcase 02-22-2005, 01:03 AM Rectangle won...POLL CLOSED. yosh18981898 02-23-2005, 10:37 PM It's amazing how many people condemn pipe as worthless for anything but plumbing without even looking at the strengh specs on it. Pipe is made by the same process as HREW tubing and therefore has the same strength specs. DOM tubing is stronger than pipe. However, not many applications require the strength of DOM. I built a front bumper out of 2" sch 40 Pipe and let me tell that it is plenty beefy! Here's a pic of Warrlord's sliders, he used 1" pipe: http://img216.exs.cx/img216/3049/sliders44gt.jpg Yes he is lifting the truck off the ground by them. Schedule 40 pipe is 0.147" wall and is measured by the inside diameter. Another plus to pipe is that it is readily availible in galvanized, which is awesome for sliders, because paint doesn't last on them if they are used for their intended purpose. I've yet to find a place to buy galvanized tubing. Yes I realize welding galvanized metal releases toxic fumes, you just have to do it in a well ventilated space with lots of airflow and you'll be fine. I built a whole bumper with it, taking the necessary precautions, and everything worked out great. |