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saleensr 01-05-2004, 10:37 PM Hey all,
Today my check engine light came on. However its weird how it has come on right at the start of our cold winter weather. In the last couple of days, the temperature has dropped below 0 degrees celcius which is very uncommon in our area. So I am thinkin it has to be the weather that is causing the problem. I have a 1997 Explorer with the 4.0 SOHC eng. Oil pressure, battery level, and temp level's all appear normal. Engine seems to be running fine. I know i can bring it to the dealer but i know they'll just charge me an arm and a leg for reading the error codes. But one thing i wanted to ask is if it is bad for me to just disconnnect the batter to reset the computer and see if the light goes away? Someone please help! thanks!
Hartman 01-05-2004, 10:38 PM Don't take it to the dealer. Autozone reads codes for FREE.
expHendrix47 01-05-2004, 11:45 PM Check the catalytic converter...i have a 97 V8 and mine came on 2wice and the cat converter had to be replaced...also according to the owners manual it says it comes on because of the fuel emissions system, so the catalytic converter would be what i would check first
saleensr 01-06-2004, 01:09 AM hey thanks for all the input!!!!
i was reading somethin about performing tests using a digital multimeter or Voltmeter... anyone ever done this on a 97 explorer?
im not too clear about these tests..... does anyone know about this? Is it for testing out the OBD-II codes??
Fusion213 01-06-2004, 03:11 AM I think that method is for the obd I system.
I'm not sure about other autozones but all the autozones in my area do not read codes anymore.
What you can do is go to harbor freight and buy an OBDII code reader for 40-50 dollars. It'll read whatever codes are stored in the system.
Blake D 01-06-2004, 10:55 AM Well I went to autozone and they said they only can do it for 96 or newer. My 94 won't hook up. He recommended a shop and it will be like $70 and I have to leave my ex for the day!?
O'Riley said they have a reader I can borrow with a $200 deposite (WOW) but I have no idea if it will fit the ex or where to hook it up.
Just another problem... suggestions please?
Thanks
Blake
PS I dont have a Harbor Freight or anything around here.
carguy1959 01-06-2004, 10:58 AM I would look around for a OBD-I code reader for your ford. I bought one for my GM at Advance for $40.
Good luck
Steve
Blake D 01-06-2004, 11:02 AM So I need a OBD-1 reader? Can I get this from O'Riley, Autozone, or NAPA?
I also have no idea where to hook it up on my 94.
Thanks!
MrShorty 01-06-2004, 12:05 PM Blake: You can buy an "official" OBD-1 code reader if you like. My OBD-1 code reader is a $3 analog voltmeter (technically not necessary can also use CEL) and a short piece of wire. Read through the instructions at www.dalidesign.com/hbook/eectest.html Note that this only applies to OBD-1 ('95 and earlier). '96 and later use OBD-2 and, in those cases, you must have some kind of code reader/scanner to get the trouble codes.
Positive Vibes 01-06-2004, 12:12 PM Autozone checked my '94 wonder why the would check yours? Anywho, you can buy a cheap code reader for about $25. I got mine from Walmart. Once you know the codes we can start helping you trouble shoot.
Blake D 01-06-2004, 12:20 PM MMM...... sounds interesting but a little hard for me to follow. mabye I could try it but I feel a little caution b/c it is so unfamiliar.
Blake D 01-06-2004, 12:23 PM you got one from WM? that sounds easier to me and then you all can help with the codes that would be great!
Positive Vibes 01-06-2004, 12:24 PM Yep, bought mine at WM a couple of years ago.
saleensr 01-06-2004, 07:28 PM hey one other thing i wanted to ask u guys! Now I'm seeing somethin wrong with my explorer. I think it has to do with the intake or exhaust system. In the morning, the car starts up and idles quite high, then drops back down, then does it over and over again.
It goes from 800rpm to 1500rpm, over and over, without any delay in between. Sounds like it can't decide wat it wants to idle at. Sometimes it seems to get so low that it shuts off. Im wondering if its the MAF that's screwed..... any ideas? then again maybe its the exhaust system having problems.....
do u guys think its ok for me to pull the battery out to reset the computer?
thanks again!
Fusion213 01-06-2004, 11:08 PM Well, did you read your codes?
If you haven't, you should, it could help identify what's going on.
saleensr 01-07-2004, 12:41 AM Well im from Canada, so we don't have a autozone or anyone who can read it for free... and i don't want to tkae it to ford cuz they're gna bill me like 150 bucks to read it..... so i don't know if i shud just disconnect then recoonect the battery.
Positive Vibes 01-07-2004, 11:06 AM Clean your MAF. Do a search. It does sound like your MAF needs cleaning but we still need codes to really help you. It cant hurt to reset the ECU by disconnecting the battery but I don't think it will help you.
gfisch 01-08-2004, 12:49 AM I have the same problem, right at the start of cold weather for the last 3 years my check engine light come on. The code is for "engine running to lean".
This year I decided to just disconect the battery, and it turned off and hasnt come back. If you dont care what the code is, that works fine. If it come back though, you really need to check what the code is. You may be able to get it checked at an oil change place; Sears auto shop checked mine one for around $20
Anyone know why this happens??? Last three years in December it came on, had it reset, and doesnt come back on for another year.
saleensr 01-08-2004, 03:36 AM yeah thanks! i'll do that then.. i'll just pull the battery to reset the ECU.... The cold weather has stopped... its a lot warmer today and the car doesn't have that rough idle anymore.
gfisch 01-08-2004, 12:01 PM Hey, just one hint.
If you lock the car when you pull the battery, obviously the only way to open it will be with the key.
Since I had never used the key lock on the door, my locks were jammed and took me a while to get it open. I got locked out for a while. Make sure they work beforehand. If not, I ended up dousing it w/ WD40.
Blake D 01-08-2004, 12:23 PM I got a code reader from WM today, Where do I attach it under the hood? I need to know location and what it looks like.
Thanks!
Blake D 01-08-2004, 02:00 PM Do i need to look for the single pin connector as well? 94 XLT
MrShorty 01-08-2004, 06:44 PM the self-test connector is under the hood, on the passenger wheel well between the power distribution box and the heater fan. the self-test input (the single wire) should be attached to the same "pigtail"
Blake D 01-09-2004, 01:55 PM Thank you! I will try this later tonight. Do our vehicles have a "goose test"? I read this may or may not be needed.
MrShorty 01-09-2004, 05:36 PM Yes. goose test is part of KOER test. Instructions are on the page I posted previously.
I drove the 97XLT last night for over 3 hours in temp from !0° to -2° w/o the wind chill figured in!...BURRR.
Just as got near home I heared a whirring or low music playing like noise.
Today when I started it up the "check engine light" is ON!
Sidebar: Does extreme cold temps affect gas mileage? I usually get about 360 a tankful.I almost ran out of gas at 2am in subzero weather! I was doing an avg 80mph+ for nearly 3hrs and thought I should get great mileage.
I barely got 310 and was praying when I crawled into the only station opened overnight on fumes!
soltero 01-12-2004, 10:24 PM I'd also like to buy the code scanner at WM. My X is a 96' 4.0 SOH. I don't live in the U.S. But I can have a friend buy it for me. Can someone tell me the scanner model or any input, so my friend can be sure he is buying the right one.
Thanks.
Positive Vibes 01-13-2004, 03:54 PM soltero: Not sure on the code reader for a '96. Mine reads up to '95. Try a search on "code readers". You may need something more than the simple reader I have. Sorry not much help here.
MrShorty 01-13-2004, 05:55 PM Sample OBD-2 code reader available from Harbor Freight http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=46030 . Personally haven't had to delve into OBD-2 so I don't know readily available code readers are from other suppliers.
soltero 01-14-2004, 09:38 PM thanks: vibes
Mr. Shorty: Does the 96 X have a generic OBDII connector?
MrShorty 01-15-2004, 12:24 AM I wouldn't know -- haven't had to delve into OBD-2. I would think it would be "generic" since part of the purpose of requiring the OBD-2 system was to standardize computer diagnostics/emissions system.
Nicaraguense 01-15-2004, 12:29 AM Everything made after 1996 has the OBDII port set up. A code reader for that could cost around $100 and it still won't give you the specifics a shop or dealerships big computer will. Autozone checks those things free of charge. Natrually we want to try to sell you the corresponding part. But, first of all (and any Ford place will do this) give your Ex the "wiggle test) wiggle all the wire conectors and see if anything is loose, if you have the test done, wiggle the wire harnesses to the corresponding part before you actually buy it.
Nicaraguense 01-15-2004, 12:31 AM Mr Shorty, that is correct it is a universal system, I love it because I am sick of counting the beeps and flashes on these old cars and half the codes just be false hickups and having to explain every one of them starting with How much does that cost?
soltero 01-15-2004, 10:49 PM Thanks for your help amigos, I'll see if I have any luck finding an affordable codescanner.
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