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Keith
03-04-1999, 04:51 PM
Why are there no companies that make lifts for late model exlorer's that make them for all other suv's. How can they not make a lift for a the best selling suv. I have e-mailed almost every company and wholesaler that I could and they either dont e-mail me back or tell me there isn't one avalible. Every day I think "why didnt I get a jeep".

jobless
03-04-1999, 08:08 PM
Keith, I have ran into the same problem with my 96.there are some manufacturers that make body lifts but I can not find any one that has a suspention lift.I feel your madness to.they flat out told me that they were putting all the techno into the jeeps because its a bigger market.Well we will have to wait a few more years before they get off there ass and see are explorer's needs.good luck.cya

Keith
03-04-1999, 08:26 PM
What we have to do I bug them to make one maybe then they will see the market. If we just sit back and wait nothing will ahppen but if we e-mail, call, and write letters maybe they will do something.

Rick
03-04-1999, 08:43 PM
Lets get a bunch of requests posted here and then submit them enmasse to the manufacturers.

Are you looking for a lift for your 95+ Explorer? Lets hear it...

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Rick Horwitz
explorer@4x4central.com
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Keith
03-04-1999, 08:46 PM
Thats a good idea if we can get a lot of people that want lifts for 95+ explorers and then mail comments from the people that want them they might consider making a lift.

Ray Lobato
03-04-1999, 09:01 PM
Keith, Jobless,
I to have been waiting for a suspension lift for my 95+ Explorer (actually 1995XLT). About the closest would be Superlift, since they just came out with one for the Ranger, which has a torqusion bar suspension like the Explorer. The problem is that it won't work on the Explorer because there are some differences between the Ranger and Explorer in the front end. If we all write,email,call Superlift, I think we have a chance to get them to come up with one, since they would only have to modify the Rangers lift to make it compatable with the Explorer, or if we could get a straight answer on what the differences are between the Ranger and the Explorer, then maybe someone could modify the Ranger lift to work on the Explorer. PeteT and I have been calling them, but if everyone starts calling, emailing, and writing them, I would think we would be able to get an answer to these questions. I think that we should concentrate on Superlift.
The reason that most companies don't make off-road aftermarket products for the Explorer, as told to me by a OME representitive was "although the Explorer is the biggest selling SUV, only about 3% of the owners actually modify their Explorer, and we don't feel that is a big enough market to develop products for it". http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/frown.gif
HANG IN THERE GUYS.


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Happy Wheelin'
Ray L. :)
95 XLT 4X4

Rick
03-04-1999, 11:19 PM
Lift kit marketing to SUV owners has always been pathetic.

If I was making my living building or selling lift kits I would emphasize the clone like nature of the average SUV and tell people that they can safely and economically build a more personlized vehicle.

No need to drive the same old, same old...Break the mold and make your Explorer live up to it's name!

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Rick Horwitz
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bachelor25
03-05-1999, 09:26 AM
You have my full permission to add my name to the christmas "lift" list! http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif I'm also looking to lift my '96 Explorer. I've heard the Duff 2.5" lift is a good one, has anyone tried that on a 95+?

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Cheers,

Andrew B.
1996 Ford Explorer 4x4 (slightly modified)
BC, Canada

jobless
03-05-1999, 07:19 PM
Ok, guys lets do this thing now.lets start thrashing them with e-mail,phone calls,letters what ever it takes to wake them up to the real world of what real 4x4's what and need.I am with you all the way.it would be nice for them to test and be a proven lift . maybe we have a big enough voice to MAKE a DIFFERNCE. With any luck I too can get my x-mas gift.

Ray Lobato
03-05-1999, 07:36 PM
To all 95+ owners,
I talked to Superlift sales, and they said that they are in deed working on a 4" lift for the 95+ Explorer. He said that the only difference between the Ranger and the Explorer was the cross beams are different, but they were looking at having it come out in about a month. He also didn't know why this hasn't been publicly announced yet. So here's what we all need to do. call Superlift and bombard them with calls. Let's see if there story changes, or still remains the same. http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif
The number for superlift is 1-800-551-4955.
the Sales managers name is Terry extension 217, he should be the one that can tell us why no public announcement, so I figure he's the one to bug. http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/wink.gif If they give you an answer other than the one I have written here, Post it here so we can call them on it.

Remember "Persistance Rules Over All".
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Happy Wheelin'
Ray L. http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif
95 XLT 4X4



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Keith
03-05-1999, 08:14 PM
MAn I wish I posted this topic a little earlier. Anyway I will call them up and post what they say.

Whats up with superlifts web page?? They have been working on it for months.

Keith

the R
03-05-1999, 09:48 PM
hey guys,

i'm down too. i'm sick of my brother, who has a lifted jeep tj, making fun of me saying that i don't belong off-road. i'll be calling and pestering superlift until they make one. as far as getting a mailing list or group pressure going, i'm down also. please post any further developments.

Paul Gagnon
03-06-1999, 11:36 AM
I wonder why they would choose to ingnore a vehicle that has production figures of half a million units per year. Seems like bad business to me.

Keith
03-06-1999, 07:01 PM
Anyone think that it is possible to have a custom lift made?

Rick
03-06-1999, 07:12 PM
A custom lift is possible. I talked to my friends at FLY-N-HI's www.fly-n-hi.com (http://www.fly-n-hi.com) fab shop FST and they said it wouldn't be a problem. They're just waiting for someone to request the mod.

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Keith
03-06-1999, 07:26 PM
How much do you think something like that would cost. I was at there web page yesterday and sent them an e-mail asking them if they offered any thing for late model explorers that what gave me the idea to post that question on the board.

Rick
03-06-1999, 11:08 PM
Your best bet is to give them a call. Ask for Torrey. He can be reached at their McDowell store 1-602-272-2433.

Tell him exactly what you want, how you will be using your Explorer (prerunning, rock crawling, street, etc.)and what you expect out of the lift in the way of durability.

A first time custom lift like this would most likely take them several days to build.

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Rick Horwitz
explorer@4x4central.com
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sbmoney007
03-08-1999, 02:00 AM
Hey guys,
I would also like to be a part of the push for 95+ explorer lift kits. I own a 97 and am definately a potential customer. I had no idea that there were so many potential buyers for lift kits, and if they decide not to fabricate one at this point then they really are doing bad business over at Superlift. I pledge to be a part of any e-mail or phone call bombardment, if that would help. I also recall reading a previous message about getting all of us potential customers together over e-mail and responding together to superlift.... well you can add me to that list too guys! Please keep me posted, and I'll do the same.

PeteT
03-08-1999, 12:12 PM
Just got back from Tahoe. Glad you guys started this thread! I am definitely down for operation harass superlift! Ray and I have been struggling for well over a year with lifting questions! Ray, did Superlift mention the price of this lift?

Ray Lobato
03-09-1999, 01:32 AM
Hey Pete,
How's it going? No I didn't ask them, but I will as soon as I get finished moving. I got my manual hubs finally. http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif I won't be able to put them on just yet, for the above reasons, http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/frown.gif but that will be the first thing I do once I'm finished. It seems that Keith called them and they told him that they weren't going to make one. http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/frown.gif Can anyone else call them and post what they told you. Try talking to the sales manager Terry. His extension is posted on one of the previous postings that I made. I hope they aren't just feeding us a bunch of S*@t. Don't try to needle them, just ask if they are going to make one. Oh and Please pass the word around so we can get as many posts on this thread requesting a lift kit for your 95+ models.
UNITED WE STAND! http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Happy Wheelin'
Ray L. :)
95 XLT 4X4

kraze
03-09-1999, 06:58 PM
I just bought a 96' Eddie Bauer with v8. Its a great truck but I want to be able to go
offroading with my buds. I know the awd isnt the greatest but it will have to work. I
want more clearance, but not overly outrageous. Maybe between 2-4 inches... Anyone
who has done this please tell me what to do and where to go. Also my brakes, they
suck. I got them checked out, new pads, refinished rotor.. but I slam the pedal to the
floor, and it rolls to a stop...

Any help with that is also apprec....

Thanks,
Rob

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96' Eddie Bauer v8/awd

Keith
03-09-1999, 08:10 PM
I dint needle the guy on why there is no lift I just asked him what there plan s were and why there wasnt any lift. Anyway I e-mailed rancho on sunday and munday I got a reply. They said
Dear Keith,
Thank you for your interest in Rancho products. The '95 and up Explorer use a
completely different torsion bar front suspension which was not used on the
Rangers until the '98 model. The only kits we currently have for either the
Ranger or Explorer are for older I beam style front ends. The new coverage we
come out with is determined by public demand. We appreciate your input and
will certainly take this application into consideration.

I think we should send them some mail and let them know we want it.

www.gorancho.com

Parker
03-13-1999, 10:41 PM
I'm gettin' on this bandwagon also. We` need a lift from someone. So sign me up for general harassment detail!

Mat R
03-14-1999, 03:12 AM
I'd like to add my name to the list of people who want to see more aftermarket lifts for the Explorer. I know of at least four or five people just in my city of Redmond, Washington who want suspension lifts for the 95s and up. Also, I would like to add for all of the companies that get this that I don't think Rancho is going to come out with one soon cause they are sitting on their A--es, and I very much am thankful that a company like superlift is willing to put there faith in a kickas- truck. 2% of the millions of Explorers is still a lot!
Mat

Bones
03-17-1999, 01:28 AM
Please add me to the list. It's been about killing me not to be able to wheel with my brother and our friends. Riding Shotgun sucks.

Sean

Jim
03-17-1999, 10:14 PM
I would love to be able to buy a lift kit for my '96 XLT. It's something that's way overdue. I am interested in a 4" lift. I love 4 wheeling, it would be great to be able to get into some of the places that my buddies are able to.

Jim

okk9
03-22-1999, 03:42 PM
Throw my hat into the ring. I need a lift for my 95 XLT. Just been waiting for it to come out. It amazes me that this suspension has been in use for almost 5 years now. I could see if it was a year or two old, but come on, 5 years.......... I bet it didn't take them that long for the chevy system when they changed.

felsmann
03-23-1999, 03:59 AM
Count me in!!! I have a 1997 Explorer Sport 4x4 with 31 x 10.5 Dunlops RV. Looks great, but it would be so much better with an extra 4". Like many of you, I don't understand what the deal with these manufacturers is. Is it money? How much could it cost to modify the 98 Ranger lift to fit the Explorer. If that is the problem, maybe we can all chip in. There has to be a lot more people like us out there. Let's get them!!

Mark P
03-23-1999, 06:00 PM
I hella want to lift my 97 Expl. Sport. What the hells up with them having the lift for a ****ing Expidition with in 6 months of that caming out. How many people actially use the lift on that for more than looks. This is pissing me off!

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jwrezz
03-23-1999, 07:16 PM
I've been getting ready to do some mods on my '95 xlt. Already have a K&N Filter Charger. Looking at headers and exhaust, and most of all a lift. Just a modest one, but I gotta have one. Add me to the list. Let's get this garbage taken care of!!

felsmann
03-25-1999, 02:09 AM
Geez, somehow I wrote over Felsmans post. Sorry about that! Anyway he asked who was going to do something about this issue and when.

Below is the reply which was supposed to be in it's own message box.
Rick

This has only been going on since Mar. 9th. Give it till Apr. 9th to let the list grow.

Then I'm going to approach the major lift makers with some evidence. Besides this list I also have numerous e-mails that have been sent to me personally.

Individuals have been approaching the lift makers since the '95s first came out with no success. This needs to be an all out effort.

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CJ
03-25-1999, 08:54 AM
Rick,
I've been e-mailing and calling Superlift and others since 1997 when I purchased my 1995 Explorer Sport. Count me in!
CJ

RickG
03-25-1999, 09:18 AM
I also have a 95 Explorer Sport. It has the Expedition Package and every imaginable option except a real suspension lift! The torsion twist/add a leaf that it has now is not enough! I also have been calling and E-Mailing Superlift and others for over a year now. Runarounds, smart comebacks, and bogus dates are all I've gotten in response. I've posted messages on this topic on Rick's previous message board and you can add me to your list again!
Rick

Sirius
03-25-1999, 09:49 AM
I just received a reply (3/22) from Joe Watts at jwatts@bayou.com (Superlift) to my inquiry about a late model lift. I sent the inquiry so long ago I don't even remember when! Anyway, here is his reply.
" As soon as we can come up with a way to install the cross member without having to weld it in place, and not have to torch out the old one."
I appreciate the response, but this is the third response I've received with the third reason (excuse) for not having the lift yet! Previous reasons were; "knuckles different from Ranger", "not enough interest", "cost prohibitive".
C'mon guys! If we can send an ORV to Mars, surely we can mount a cross member!
Sirius

Mark P
03-26-1999, 05:42 PM
Has any one checked with ford to see what the differance is between the suspension for the 95+ explorer and 98+(or maybe just 99's I dont know)ranger is? Because I cant even tell the differance between the two, if there truely is a differance it is so slight, I think that even a body and frame repair company could make the minor change to fit the new ranger lift. If someone else has looked at the two and know enough about suspensions to tell the difference, or has talked to ford please let me know.

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Mark P
04-03-1999, 10:41 PM
I guess no one knows the answer to my question. Is there any new info about if there will be a lift soon and if so when?

jeffseal
04-12-1999, 06:12 PM
i have a 95 explorer i want a lift to i cranked up torsion bars and i am running 32 1150 bfg muds i am also looking for a body lift but i cant even find one of those, this sucks i wish rancho and superlift would quite sitting on their lazy asses and make the f**king lift

Keith
04-12-1999, 07:59 PM
Has any1 ever seen any shock up grades I cant seem to find any thing suspension wise.

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ralter
04-14-1999, 09:12 AM
Hey gu's count me in I have a 98 soprt 2dor and am lookin for a 3" body lift. Someone over in the lift and suspencion page said that the 90-94 explorer body lift will work but the bumper mounts won't. Those can be fabricated easy enough. My question is the sterieng collum will an extencion be needed. i think so. Will the old one work?

ExplorGM
04-14-1999, 11:49 AM
I also have done the torsion bar lift. I swapped my existing torsion bars (suspension code D) for the stiffest offered for 95 (B) The bars were ordered from the Ford dealer (extremely un-helpful parts man named Steve) and were $49.62 and $47.92 each + tax. Right and left are different lengths. The suspension codes are listed on the driver's side door jamb. For 95 they range from " B" to " L". Heaviest load to lightest load. Because my 95 came with a factory brush guard, it had a "D" rating for the front suspension and an "L" for the rear. I also replaced the adjusters as the originals were jammed onto the bars. If yours are not stuck, or rounded and in good shape, you will not have to replace them. These were $40.00+tax for the pair. While replacing, or just adjusting the bars, it helps to loosen your lower shock nuts, and loosen the sway bar links for more travel and lift. I gained almost a half inch of lift by loosening the sway bar links alone! My studs were corroded and snapped during this procedure so I replaced both links with new ones from the factory. These were slightly longer than the old ones. Another bonus! These came to $54.76+tax for the studs, nuts and links. Again, if yours are in good shape you do not need to replace these. The replacement itself took less 20 minutes for the driver's side and almost an hour for the passenger side. The passenger bar was almost welded by corrosion and rust to the frame!
I use Haynes manuals for all my vehicles. They are very informative and have great drawings. They do recommend a special tool to remove and replace the adjusters. I used my floor jack instead. If you want the tool, it is part number T95T-5310-A.
If your torsion bars are in excellent shape and not losing tension, you can gain quite a bit of lift from just adjusting adjuster bolts all the way in. This costs you nothing and takes about a half hour total! Initially, mine gave me 2" of lift, but then settled to about 1.25" after a few days of driving. This is why I went for newer, stiffer bars. Be careful when upgrading though. Just one level up made a huge difference in ride and bounce! Way out of alignment!
My stock shocks are definately over whelmed by the new bars. I would like to get the Edelbrock IAS shocks if they can be gotten in a slightly longer, more travel, version than stock? Someone mentioned that they used the shocks listed for a Ford F-150? Paul, or Rick? Are the late model and early model shocks the same? A dual shock hoop (from Duff??) and these shocks would be awsome. This would almost negate the sway bar, and still provide a great ride.
I used extended shackles in the rear for 1.5" of lift. My Explorer's rear springs are 3" wide and a single leaf with no over load leaf. I have not been able to find an overload, or lift kit to fit these other than going to a spring company and paying $300.00+ for a custom made spring? JeffSeal- Where did you get yours? Do you have taller shocks as well? What size wheels did you use to fit the 32x11.5s? Mine came with 16x7s and 255/70-16 tires.
The part numbers for the 95 parts are as follows. These may or may not fit later years.
Torsion Bars-"B" code- F57Z*5B326A,and F57Z*5B327A
Adjusters-F57Z*5B328A
Sway bar link parts-
Stud-F77Z*5495*AA, Nuts-F77Z*5C491*AA, Links-F77Z*5K483*AA
Good luck and happy wheelin!


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RickG
95 Explorer Sport Expedition

RUNNER
04-14-1999, 09:08 PM
I installed a PA body lift on my 91 explorer and did not use the steering extention and have not had any problem on/off road

RUNNER
04-14-1999, 09:12 PM
3" lift.

thunderhorse
04-19-1999, 02:17 PM
Okay guys I found a place in southern Califorina to get a 4" lift on the 95+ explorer the company is, CMS (CUSTOM MOTORSPORTS)it's located in the city of Riverside north of the 91 freeway between McKinley and Magnolia ave.s. They say they don't realy have a kit but they have done several of these lifts. Cost is about $2000 installed Phone # 909-549-1740 fax # 909-549-9157.
Address is 12152 Severn Way, Riverside Ca 92503
If you try this shop please let me know how customer frienly they are, so far they have been very helpful.

Cameron
04-20-1999, 01:10 AM
I to am interested in a lift kit for my ’97 Sport. I have searched many manufactures and all I could find was cheap body lift kits not true suspension lifts.

ExplorGM
04-21-1999, 10:57 AM
Rick,
How about a "Forum" specifically for Late Model Lifts"? It seems that there are new members inquiring about the topic all over the message board that are unaware of this thread. If they all replied to the same forum, you would have a much better list to present to the lift manufacturers in the quest for a late model lift. Also... Three of us have posted procedures for the torsion lift in various places that together might be more helpful to everyone in one forum.
Thanks again for a great Explorer Site!

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RickG
95 Explorer Sport Expedition

Keith
04-21-1999, 05:38 PM
I think what we should do is e-mail these companies and tell them to come and look at this page. Then they can see what we are saying.

JASONESQUIVEL
04-22-1999, 01:11 AM
I just called SUPERLIFT 1 800 551-4955 today, My response was "not enough interest" as for the Ranger mod, Terry said the knuckles are different. The bottom line is, they do not have any plans for a lift. He also said they did not sell enough of the older Explorer lifts and that is another reason why they are not even considering a 95+ lift.

All this madness should also be sent to :
TUFF COUNTRY
RANCHO
trail master
SKYJACKER
PRO COMP
DICK CEPEK
Genuine SUSPENSION
DOWNEY
ROUGH COUNTRY
FABTECH (FOR THE 2WD EXPLORER)

How can I help???

mav
05-04-1999, 07:04 PM
Thanks to thunderhorse for the info on CMS he posted on 4-19-99. I have a '99 Eddie Bauer Explorer 4x4 and I'm dying to get a lift kit. I get pissed off every time I pull up next to a lifted Jeep Grand Charokee or Chevy Tahoe. I called every place I could think of, and no one had a lift kit. The best selling SUV, and no lift kit. The stock ground clearance of 7" and 31" tire size limit really hampers an Explorer's ability to get serious off the road. I may luck out because I will be visiting CA in a month. If everything works out, when I get back to TX I will be the only person I know of with a 4" suspension lift along with some 35" BFG A/T's. Wish me luck!

Paul Gagnon
05-04-1999, 07:27 PM
mav,

you will want more than 4 inches of lift if you plan to run 35s.

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Paul Gagnon
www.geocities.com/baja/canyon/8253 (http://www.geocities.com/baja/canyon/8253)

mav
05-05-1999, 12:43 PM
Paul,
Would I need a 6" lift to run 35" BFG's. I have heard bad things about lifting an Explorer more than 4". If you have a lift on your Explorer how big is it and what size tires are on it. If I am able to but 35" BFG's, how wide of a tire can I get to fit on the stock rim. Since it is a '99 EB it has 16" rims with 255/75/R16 Firestone Wilderness AT's. Also, how bad will it slow me down. I can do 100MPH now with the 255's and a 4.10 rear differential. I have the 4.0L SOHC engine and would like to increase the performance. I was considering a Borla exaust system, a K&N open element air filter, a new throttle body, and a larger mass air sensor. Will this be a noticable improvement?
By the way TRAILMASTER will be making a 4" Suspension Lift Kit for 95+ Explorers. As a matter of fact I talked with John at Trailmaster today, and he said they were currently testing it on the 4dr Explorers. John told me the ETA on the kit was about a month. This is the best news I have heard in a while. We should contact Trailmaster to let them know that there is a demand for this kit. Only then can the Explorer truely live up to its name.

ExplorGM
05-05-1999, 06:49 PM
Great news from Trailmaster! I have 16x7" stock rims and 32x11.5/16 Mickey Thompson Baja Belted tires on my 95 Sport. With 2" of lift it only rubs at full lock on the sway bar on the driver's side. Good luck with your trip to CA and the lift!
Rick

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RickG
95 Explorer Sport Expedition

GJarrett
05-06-1999, 02:38 PM
RickG: where did you get the rear shackles to lift the rear 1.5"? I got info on another thread to try James Duff and Con-Ferr but both were no help for a 99 EB. About two inches is all the lift I want for now and I need those shackles for the back before I crank up my torsion bars up front.
Gerald

81WG
05-10-1999, 03:05 PM
RickG: I like GJarrett would like to do a 2" lift. I'd like to know where to get extended shackles for the rear. I checked mine out and could modify them or fabricate some replacements but if ready made ones can be had I'd probably opt for those. Thanks.

81WG
96XLT

bachelor25
05-11-1999, 09:46 AM
In response to the last couple posts:

You can always do what I did on my '96. Took it to a suspension shop where they re-arched and added a helper leaf to the stock rear leaf pack. Gained 2.5" and almost 2" front from the torsion-bar adjustment. Ride is firmer and handling is much improved. Also my load carrying capacity is much higher.

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Cheers,

Andrew B.
1996 Ford Explorer 4x4 (slightly modified)
BC, Canada

GJarrett
05-11-1999, 09:57 AM
Yep, I'm aware of that option too, but I just want the shackles since the ride is already plenty firm on my '99 as is, and I have no desire to add a leaf or do anything else that would stiffen it more. So I'm just looking for the simple solution of shackles to raise the back up. Can ANYONE help with knowledge of a source?

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ExplorGM
05-11-1999, 06:32 PM
GJarrett, & 81WG,
Just head down to your local auto parts store and pick up a generic shackle lift kit. The type that they sell for "muscle cars". The ones that I found fit outside my stock shackles and then I had them tack welded together for strength and rigidity. They cost about $25.00 for the pair and the welder did the tack for a 6 pack! They are just as rigid as my Con-Ferrs on my jeep. They are powder coated gloss black and match my truck's colors. For a picture of my truck with the new Mickey Thompson's and also of my matching lifted WWII trailer, go to www.hometown.aol.com/explorgm/Explorer/index.htm (http://www.hometown.aol.com/explorgm/Explorer/index.htm)
I have 4 pages with several pictures. The publishing process has been sketchy so hopefully soon I'll have a complete description of the lift process with part numbers and some clearance pictures showing the tires closeup. For now, there are some holes in the pages!
I'd love to get a picture of my truck on Rick H's site!? How about it?
Rick


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RickG
95 Explorer Sport Expedition

ExplorGM
05-11-1999, 06:39 PM
Another picture at www.hometown.aol.com/explorgm/Pictures/index.htm (http://www.hometown.aol.com/explorgm/Pictures/index.htm)

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RickG
95 Explorer Sport Expedition

Parker
05-11-1999, 07:00 PM
Rick, Thanks for the pics. That's the inspiration I needed. Great lookin' truck!
Those web sites can be a pain! Keep up the good work.

Rick
05-11-1999, 11:21 PM
I would be glad to put your Explorer on this site. Any chance I could get some Hi-res photos to go along with the small shots? It;s nice to be able to see the details. Also try and get some shots on the trail.

Thanks,
Rick

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Rick Horwitz
explorer@4x4central.com
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felsmann
05-12-1999, 02:11 PM
Has anyone had any experience with the above mentioned Company? (Custom Motor Sports) They said it is about $1800 for a 4" Lift kit on my '97 Sport 4x4. They said that the lift is made by themselves. I just want to make sure this is a good kit and it's worth my $$.

Thanks!

thunderhorse
05-12-1999, 08:05 PM
felsmann
I have not purchesed any services from this outlet but have picked their brain on some matters. I would ask to see some of their lifts on other trucks with like suspensions. The lift on my 92 was around $1500 installed, so they aren't way off the mark.
jerry

Parker
05-13-1999, 04:57 PM
You guys wanting the extended shackles might want to keep in mind that it takes about a 4" longer shackle to produce a 2" lift. This has been my experience, if you guys that have done the "shackle lift" know otherwise, please let us know.

Rick
05-13-1999, 06:00 PM
I just talked to Custom Motorsports. They are sending me photos and a description of their lift for a 95+ Explorer.

As soon as I recieve them I'll put them online.

This should be interesting.



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Jordan714
05-13-1999, 07:01 PM
I am looking for a lift kit for my 98 Explorer 2wd XLT. I cannot find one ANYWHERE!!!!!!!!! HELP

Jordan714@aol.com

ETJAFFE
05-14-1999, 07:54 AM
I HAVE BEEN GOING NUTS TRYING TO FIND A 1.5-2" LIFT FOR MY 97 XLT. AT LEAST I KNOW I AM NOT THE ONLY PERSON WITH THIS PROBLEM. COUNT ME IN. I HAVE CONTACTED SEVERAL COMPANIES MYSELF AND I KNOW SUPERLIFT HAS A PRODUCT COMING OUT IN A FEW MONTHS. LET ME KNOW WHAT I CAN DO.

Rick
05-15-1999, 01:03 AM
I spoke to Trailmaster today, yes they are working on a kit for the new Explorer, but they have found differences between the '95-'96 and the '97+ models. This means they may only offer a lift for the 97+ if they end up offering one at all.

I offered them the use of this website to promote their product if they do decide to build a kit and they seemed very interested in that.

So stay tuned. You may hear it here first.

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felsmann
05-17-1999, 08:31 PM
Guys, FabTech Motorsports is working on a 4" kit as well. I called them to confirm and they said about 4 weeks to release.

I guess we can wait a little bit more. It even looks like we have some choices to make after all!! (Trail Master, Fabtech and CMS)

Rick
06-01-1999, 06:06 PM
The "official" word is in! This is the text of an e-mail I recieved from Trailmaster's product development manager.

"AT TRAILMASTER WE ARE GOING TO BUILD A 4'' LIFT KIT FOR THE EXPLORERS BY THE END OF SUMMER WE HAVE PROTOTYPED ONE OUT ALREADY JUST HAVE TO PUT THE FINISHING TOUCHES ON THE KIT."

Great news for all of you who have been awaiting a "factory" suspension lift for your late model Explorers!

Don't forget to send me the photos and installation details when you get your kit. Who will be the first?

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Kevin R
06-01-1999, 07:10 PM
That's the best news I've recieved in months!
thanx to everybody here. Hey rick, any word on price yet?

bachelor25
06-02-1999, 12:06 PM
I've got my pennies all ready to roll and take to the bank. Hopefully the lift won't be outrageously priced. I'm looking into buying some Edelbrock IAS shocks right now, probably get the F150 4" lifted ones as they aren't making any lifted Explorer ones. They should fit perfectly after the 4" Trailmaster lift goes in! WOOHOOO! http://www.4x4central.com/ubb/smile.gif


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Andrew B.
1996 Ford Explorer 4x4 (slightly modified)
BC, Canada

GJarrett
06-07-1999, 03:27 PM
HELP
ATTN: Rick G./ExplorerGM...

Rick, I believe I remember that you mentioned that you've put shackles in. Now I am about to lift about an inch to my '99 EB 4x4.
I nearly started the job last weekend but was warned off and told I may need leaf spreaders to keep the leafs from bowing in too far to reconnect to the shackles once I let them loose from the old shackles. Is this true? I was going to simply jack the rear up on jackstands and replace the shackles until someone told me this.
Thanks again for all your help on this beat-to-death subject!
Gerald

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