Conti Mud Trac? - Ford Explorer Ranger Enthusiasts "Serious Explorations"®

*FMExplorer* · 05-02-2001, 09:40 AM

Hey guys,
Came across this at desertrat...
http://www.desertrat.com/mudder/mega_mudder.htm

I know they make a good street tire (many BMW's run these), but any clue how they are offroad? Price is great, but not sure how they compare to anything else...

J

tdavis · 05-02-2001, 02:33 PM

DiffWhackDaddy had these tires; they fell out of round relativity quickly, and he replaced them with BFG AT/ko's.

cableguy · 05-03-2001, 10:28 PM

I went with that setup on my truck. 33x12.50's on 15x8 rims with 3.75" of backspacing. I don't know how fast they will go out of round, or how good of a street tire they are, but they are awesome off road. I just got done doing two weekends of wheeling in Attica. I aired them down to around 12-14 psi, and let them do their job. I was in sand, mud, rocks and just plain trails. For the price, I don't think there is a tire out there any better. They clean out REALLY well in the mud, and grip great on rocks.

I don't drive mine much on the street, but they are not that loud and seem to do well in the rain also. Don't know what else to tell ya other than I am really happy with them.

91'explorer 2wd · 05-04-2001, 10:26 AM

BFG Ripoff they look like a BFG M/T, not so original.good prices though,

cableguy · 05-04-2001, 12:37 PM

Every mud terrain looks like BFG's, or is it BFG's look like every mud terrain. Who say's BFG was first. Who cares, they work just as good and are much cheaper. Which is good for all us other people who don't have a money tree in our back yards.

Clint · 05-04-2001, 09:38 PM

they don't last for sh!t off road they are jsut like a bfg mud

*FMExplorer* · 05-05-2001, 06:54 AM

Thanks for the input guys. I figured this was a case of "you get what you pay for"

On the flip side - what about Dick Cepek Fun Country???

Jon

*RobbieJ* · 05-05-2001, 10:24 AM

Jon I think the beast tihng to do is go with a set of crome steel wheels like 200 or so and the go to Discounttire.com and get you a set of good year MT/Rs for like 700. This will be best in the long run. Robbie

*FMExplorer* · 05-05-2001, 11:40 AM

I'll tell ya what Robbie - I love the MT/R's (just threw the DC comment for kicks). I have a client who owns 5 Goodyear shops in SW Florida - I am going to bet i can get a SWEET deal on the MT/R's through him... I'll keep you guys posted as I get closer...

Jon

tdavis · 05-05-2001, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FMExplorer
I'll tell ya what Robbie - I love the MT/R's (just threw the DC comment for kicks). I have a client who owns 5 Goodyear shops in SW Florida - I am going to bet i can get a SWEET deal on the MT/R's through him... I'll keep you guys posted as I get closer...

Jon

Don't be afraid to shop around for MT/R's.. Big O tires sell them for about $170 ea (35's). I found the Goodyear Dealers wanted about $100 more (that's right, $270 EA!) Got mine from America's Tires for $160/ea, with a $20 tire hazard warranty that I was told includes off-road damage(which, btw, I already used!)

Usually, you should be able to get them for $10 more than the same size BFG's, and they are one of the *BEST* all around tire made.

*RobbieJ* · 05-05-2001, 01:16 PM

Tom was that 160 with the warranty or 160 plus the warranty? Is that tire store local or is it a national chain? I got mine from discount tire but they have a low price guarentee I paid 157 each plus the warrienty. Maybe I can get some dough back. Thanks Robbie

tdavis · 05-05-2001, 02:41 PM

Robbie, it was 160 + 20 for hazard.

Discount Tire/Americas Tires is all over the place.. they even do mailorder! check out http://www.tires.com. wow, lookie here: http://www.discounttiredirect.com/me...lue1=Truck/SUV $156 ea, mailorder! Wow!

I called around - Goodyear, BigO, 4Wheelparts, then Discount Tires. The last 3 matched the price - BUT, 4wheelparts had no hazard warranty, and you paid for mounting/balancing and any flats. BigO was little bit better, but Discount Tire I paid nothing for mounting, balancing and they have a free flat fix also, and offered a hazard warranty. I've had zip problems with them, they was a great place to work (they even offered to get me beadlocks!)

91'explorer 2wd · 05-07-2001, 11:02 AM

MT/Rs don't look likeall the otherMud Terrains

914x4sport · 05-07-2001, 11:46 AM

You know Jon, you can get like the same deal as the Conti's, but With ProComp MT's which is a very good tire...just my .02 (not a goodyear fan, sorry)
Mickey

*FMExplorer* · 05-07-2001, 01:12 PM

91'explorer 2wd,
The Goodyer MT/R's are not a Mud Terrain/Radial...
They are Maximum Traction/Reinforced.

These tires are deisgned to grip pretty much anywhere and have good road manners. Very strong sidewalls - unless you are tdavis - he can rip anything

914x4sport,
I like the procomps if I need to go the budget route, but I am hoping to swing either the Goodyears or Mickey Thompsom Baja Belted - depends on budget constraints...

Jon

*FMExplorer* · 05-07-2001, 01:13 PM

Ok - I have a question for 914x4sport...
WHO IS MICKEY????

What happened to Jeremy?

Jon

914x4sport · 05-07-2001, 03:34 PM

Oh you know the whole wal-mart lights-lookin like mickey mouse?......REMEMBER ,YOU CALLED ME MICKEY?

tdavis · 05-07-2001, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FMExplorer

These tires are deisgned to grip pretty much anywhere and have good road manners. Very strong sidewalls - unless you are tdavis - he can rip anything

geez, thanks.. I guess I should take that as a compliment..

I have already destroyed one MTR, taking a 8penny nail into the side wall. Was replaced, no fuss, no hassle.

As for "why" MT/R's, you have to ask? Go find a review!

*FMExplorer* · 05-07-2001, 04:49 PM

Who is Mickey...
DUH - I feel like i's just ben edjukated...

My mind isn't with me much...

Jon

91'explorer 2wd · 05-10-2001, 10:23 AM

Gumbo Mudders don't look like all other M/Ts

05-02-2001, 09:40 AM	#1
FMExplorer the original tramp Fort Myers, FL '99 Explorer EB Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 1,996 Vehicle Specs	Conti Mud Trac? Hey guys, Came across this at desertrat... http://www.desertrat.com/mudder/mega_mudder.htm I know they make a good street tire (many BMW's run these), but any clue how they are offroad? Price is great, but not sure how they compare to anything else... J __________________ Jon McLeod 2002 Harley Davidson F150 #6792 visit Florida Explorer Club

05-02-2001, 02:33 PM	#2
tdavis Linux Guru Jack of All Trades Pinole, CA 2001 F250/XLT Superduty Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5,267 Vehicle Specs	DiffWhackDaddy had these tires; they fell out of round relativity quickly, and he replaced them with BFG AT/ko's. __________________ Thomas Davis Chased vehicle -> Honda VFR800 Tow vehicle -> Ford F250 Superduty Frankenstein Rock Crawler - > Suzuki Samurai (sold, onto the next project..)

05-04-2001, 10:26 AM	#4
91'explorer 2wd Wannabe Elite Explorer McAllen, TX '92 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 227 Vehicle Specs	BFG Ripoff they look like a BFG M/T, not so original.good prices though, __________________ '02 x rims 3 chamber flows w/no cat k&n filter that's worthless 33" wrangler at/s b/lift, still working on her...slowly but surely

05-04-2001, 12:37 PM	#5
cableguy Wannabe Elite Explorer Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 432 Vehicle Specs	Ripoff? Every mud terrain looks like BFG's, or is it BFG's look like every mud terrain. Who say's BFG was first. Who cares, they work just as good and are much cheaper. Which is good for all us other people who don't have a money tree in our back yards.

05-04-2001, 09:38 PM	#6
Clint Wannabe Elite Explorer Mesa ,AZ 91 sport Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 678 Vehicle Specs	they don't last for sh!t off road they are jsut like a bfg mud __________________ 7" of total susp. lift .... 33's blah blah blah

05-03-2001, 10:28 PM	#3
cableguy Wannabe Elite Explorer Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 432 Vehicle Specs	I went with that setup on my truck. 33x12.50's on 15x8 rims with 3.75" of backspacing. I don't know how fast they will go out of round, or how good of a street tire they are, but they are awesome off road. I just got done doing two weekends of wheeling in Attica. I aired them down to around 12-14 psi, and let them do their job. I was in sand, mud, rocks and just plain trails. For the price, I don't think there is a tire out there any better. They clean out REALLY well in the mud, and grip great on rocks. I don't drive mine much on the street, but they are not that loud and seem to do well in the rain also. Don't know what else to tell ya other than I am really happy with them.

05-05-2001, 06:54 AM	#7
FMExplorer the original tramp Fort Myers, FL '99 Explorer EB Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 1,996 Vehicle Specs	Thanks for the input guys. I figured this was a case of "you get what you pay for" On the flip side - what about Dick Cepek Fun Country??? Jon __________________ Jon McLeod 2002 Harley Davidson F150 #6792 visit Florida Explorer Club

05-05-2001, 10:24 AM	#8
RobbieJ Elite Explorer Albuquerque, New Mexico 91 XLT Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 371 Vehicle Specs	Jon I think the beast tihng to do is go with a set of crome steel wheels like 200 or so and the go to Discounttire.com and get you a set of good year MT/Rs for like 700. This will be best in the long run. Robbie __________________ Robbie J 1991 XLT 4x4 4.0 4-door Tweaked Jeep....It's what's for dinner

05-05-2001, 11:40 AM	#9
FMExplorer the original tramp Fort Myers, FL '99 Explorer EB Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 1,996 Vehicle Specs	I'll tell ya what Robbie - I love the MT/R's (just threw the DC comment for kicks). I have a client who owns 5 Goodyear shops in SW Florida - I am going to bet i can get a SWEET deal on the MT/R's through him... I'll keep you guys posted as I get closer... Jon __________________ Jon McLeod 2002 Harley Davidson F150 #6792 visit Florida Explorer Club

05-05-2001, 01:16 PM	#11
RobbieJ Elite Explorer Albuquerque, New Mexico 91 XLT Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 371 Vehicle Specs	Tom was that 160 with the warranty or 160 plus the warranty? Is that tire store local or is it a national chain? I got mine from discount tire but they have a low price guarentee I paid 157 each plus the warrienty. Maybe I can get some dough back. Thanks Robbie __________________ Robbie J 1991 XLT 4x4 4.0 4-door Tweaked Jeep....It's what's for dinner Last edited by RobbieJ; 05-05-2001 at 01:23 PM.

05-05-2001, 02:41 PM	#12
tdavis Linux Guru Jack of All Trades Pinole, CA 2001 F250/XLT Superduty Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5,267 Vehicle Specs	Robbie, it was 160 + 20 for hazard. Discount Tire/Americas Tires is all over the place.. they even do mailorder! check out http://www.tires.com. wow, lookie here: http://www.discounttiredirect.com/me...lue1=Truck/SUV $156 ea, mailorder! Wow! I called around - Goodyear, BigO, 4Wheelparts, then Discount Tires. The last 3 matched the price - BUT, 4wheelparts had no hazard warranty, and you paid for mounting/balancing and any flats. BigO was little bit better, but Discount Tire I paid nothing for mounting, balancing and they have a free flat fix also, and offered a hazard warranty. I've had zip problems with them, they was a great place to work (they even offered to get me beadlocks!) __________________ Thomas Davis Chased vehicle -> Honda VFR800 Tow vehicle -> Ford F250 Superduty Frankenstein Rock Crawler - > Suzuki Samurai (sold, onto the next project..)

05-07-2001, 11:02 AM	#13
91'explorer 2wd Wannabe Elite Explorer McAllen, TX '92 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 227 Vehicle Specs	MT/Rs don't look likeall the otherMud Terrains __________________ '02 x rims 3 chamber flows w/no cat k&n filter that's worthless 33" wrangler at/s b/lift, still working on her...slowly but surely

05-07-2001, 11:46 AM	#14
914x4sport Wannabe Elite Explorer St. Petersburg,Fl 91 4x4 sport Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 292 Vehicle Specs	You know Jon, you can get like the same deal as the Conti's, but With ProComp MT's which is a very good tire...just my .02 (not a goodyear fan, sorry) Mickey __________________ Ex X-Owner

05-07-2001, 01:12 PM	#15
FMExplorer the original tramp Fort Myers, FL '99 Explorer EB Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 1,996 Vehicle Specs	91'explorer 2wd, The Goodyer MT/R's are not a Mud Terrain/Radial... They are Maximum Traction/Reinforced. These tires are deisgned to grip pretty much anywhere and have good road manners. Very strong sidewalls - unless you are tdavis - he can rip anything 914x4sport, I like the procomps if I need to go the budget route, but I am hoping to swing either the Goodyears or Mickey Thompsom Baja Belted - depends on budget constraints... Jon __________________ Jon McLeod 2002 Harley Davidson F150 #6792 visit Florida Explorer Club

05-07-2001, 01:13 PM	#16
FMExplorer the original tramp Fort Myers, FL '99 Explorer EB Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 1,996 Vehicle Specs	Ok - I have a question for 914x4sport... WHO IS MICKEY???? What happened to Jeremy? Jon __________________ Jon McLeod 2002 Harley Davidson F150 #6792 visit Florida Explorer Club

05-07-2001, 03:34 PM	#17
914x4sport Wannabe Elite Explorer St. Petersburg,Fl 91 4x4 sport Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 292 Vehicle Specs	Oh you know the whole wal-mart lights-lookin like mickey mouse?......REMEMBER ,YOU CALLED ME MICKEY? __________________ Ex X-Owner

05-07-2001, 04:49 PM	#19
FMExplorer the original tramp Fort Myers, FL '99 Explorer EB Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 1,996 Vehicle Specs	Who is Mickey... DUH - I feel like i's just ben edjukated... My mind isn't with me much... Jon __________________ Jon McLeod 2002 Harley Davidson F150 #6792 visit Florida Explorer Club

05-10-2001, 10:23 AM	#20
91'explorer 2wd Wannabe Elite Explorer McAllen, TX '92 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 227 Vehicle Specs	Gumbo mudders Gumbo Mudders don't look like all other M/Ts __________________ '02 x rims 3 chamber flows w/no cat k&n filter that's worthless 33" wrangler at/s b/lift, still working on her...slowly but surely