A way for FIPK to draw cool air? - Ford Explorer Ranger Enthusiasts "Serious Explorations"®

psychotic · 08-08-2002, 10:32 PM

I've read many 'free' mods about people connecting a dryer hose to a hole they've drilled in their air box to get much much more power. Is there a way to get my FIPK intake cool air? I like the dryer hose idea, but would i have to make my own airbox around the cone filter to keep it from pulling hot air in from the engine bay??? any ideas or anyone who has done somethin like this???

*aldive* · 08-08-2002, 10:49 PM

What do you expect the temperature difference ( over ambient ) will be?

psychotic · 08-09-2002, 01:00 AM

I really have no clue what the temperature difference will be.... i'm guess it will depend on if someone can think of a way to get the filter to draw in the air coming from the dryer hose as opposed to drawing most in from the engine bay. Does anyone have ideas?

*Hartman* · 08-09-2002, 01:23 AM

I thought about doing this. Problem is, will the air even have enough momentum to flow up the hose and into the intake?

**Alec** · 08-09-2002, 01:31 AM

Using one of the code scanners that can read sensors:
after adding a custom aluminum heat shield to block header heat and and adding some dryer hose, my intake temps are about 5-10 degrees cooler than before when above 35 mph. now once I'm moving, intake air temps are about 5-12 degrees above ambient.

psychotic · 08-09-2002, 01:34 AM

Hmm, as i see it, the air won't need momentum to move up the dryer hose, am i wrong?

**Alec** · 08-09-2002, 01:38 AM

depends on how you do it. if you rig up the dryer hose so it firmly contacts the air filter (or a sealed airbox), the hose should create suction when the motor needs air. I on the other hand, just routed my hoses so they're "near" the air filter. I sometimes go through deep water and live in a wet climate, so I don't want any suction from below the filter. Above about 30-35 mph, the air has enough force to flow up through the hoses. Below that it doesn't do anything.

It's nice to be able to go through water over 3' deep

psychotic · 08-09-2002, 01:49 AM

so lets say i had like a large heat shield over my fipk, and a few dryer hoses coming from it... they would create suction? and this shouldn't be a problem street driving, because there would be no water to suck up into the filter?

(this is what i was planning to do, i'm just not smart enough to figure out how to do it myself)

*Rhett* · 08-09-2002, 03:51 PM

Alec, how did you mount your aluminum heat shield?

*Jason_25* · 08-09-2002, 04:17 PM

Alec, do you have any current pictures of your intake? I'm very interested.

**Alec** · 08-09-2002, 06:15 PM

sorry, no current pics. I tried, but even to my trained eye it came out like looking at a pile of junk (which is what it is

)

the al heat shield is just an aluminum sheet that's bent a bit into place with a few self-tapping screws in it to secure it. it goes from the 'floor' where the air filter is up to the bottom of the mas. up top, a strap that's screwed into the sheet runs under a hose clamp on the intake tube to secure it up there.

the dryer hose: one length extends from the opening of the stock air scoop to behind the bumper with a little scoop on it. another length starts in the front 'mouth' opening of the bumper, runs up behind the headlight, and exits to the front of the air filter.

with the shield i noticed the motor bogged a bit less in city driving. with the hose, i noticed a bit more throttle response on the highway.

psychotic · 08-09-2002, 06:57 PM

Hey guys, i just picked up some aluminum flashing and a 4 inch aluminum dryer hose. Sucking up water is no issue.... so which set up should give me more acceleration? Making a sort of closed box of aluminum around the intake with the dryer hose coming out of it and going down to draw cool air in around the fog lights or bumper.... OR using the aluminum to just make a heat shield on one side of the intake, and use the dryer hose in the same way, only just placing it near the intake.... what do you guys think? personally i think the box idea would give cooler air/more power... but i don't honestly know.

**Alec** · 08-09-2002, 07:48 PM

unless you form a completely sealed airbox, the dryer hose wont create suction. so might as well go the easy route and just seal off the filter on one side from the engine heat and run the dryer hose close to it. don't expect huge power gains, but it will help.

psychotic · 08-09-2002, 08:02 PM

the 4 in hose won't fit anywhere.... 3 in will do the trick... do they make 3 inch aluminum dryer hose?? I'm thinkin about using the 4 inch to cover my rubber intake tube

**Alec** · 08-09-2002, 08:46 PM

my dryer hose is vinyl. it's easier to bend w/o tearing and conducts less heat.

*Rhett* · 08-10-2002, 01:40 AM

I used Cool Tape to insulate the air tube. Supposedly it reflects away most heat but since I have no IAT thermistor I can't verify this.

I'm gonna rig some sort of heat shield now, since I need to get my mod fix for the week hehehe

psychotic · 08-10-2002, 01:53 AM

whats cool tape?, where can you get it

*Rhett* · 08-18-2002, 12:29 PM

Do a search on the forum here about Cool Tape if u want to know about it.

fyi, Martel Brothers Performance

www.martelbros.com

*diablo5969* · 08-18-2002, 01:06 PM

I want to do something like this too.

Create a type of heatshield around the intake, and use dryer hose to bring in cooler air.

Has anyone done this with a first generation Explorer? If you have, where did you mount the dryer hose?

I can't find a really good location without the hose bending and twisting a lot. Or is that not really a problem if the hose bends and twists a lot?

*aldive* · 08-18-2002, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by diablo5969
I want to do something like this too.

Create a type of heatshield around the intake, and use dryer hose to bring in cooler air.

Whats the point?

08-08-2002, 10:32 PM	#1
psychotic Wannabe Elite Explorer Olathe, KS RIP: '02 V8 Limited 4WD Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 912 Vehicle Specs	A way for FIPK to draw cool air? I've read many 'free' mods about people connecting a dryer hose to a hole they've drilled in their air box to get much much more power. Is there a way to get my FIPK intake cool air? I like the dryer hose idea, but would i have to make my own airbox around the cone filter to keep it from pulling hot air in from the engine bay??? any ideas or anyone who has done somethin like this??? __________________ CLICK HERE TO SEE MY 2002 4.6L LIMITED

08-08-2002, 10:49 PM	#2
aldive Elite Explorer Sarasota, Florida 1999 XLT Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 25,208 Vehicle Specs	What do you expect the temperature difference ( over ambient ) will be? __________________ Al Franklin My truck My Quest for 30

08-09-2002, 01:00 AM	#3
psychotic Wannabe Elite Explorer Olathe, KS RIP: '02 V8 Limited 4WD Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 912 Vehicle Specs	I really have no clue what the temperature difference will be.... i'm guess it will depend on if someone can think of a way to get the filter to draw in the air coming from the dryer hose as opposed to drawing most in from the engine bay. Does anyone have ideas? __________________ CLICK HERE TO SEE MY 2002 4.6L LIMITED

08-09-2002, 01:23 AM	#4
Hartman From lowered to lifted Indianapolis, IN '95 4WD Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 8,118 Vehicle Specs	I thought about doing this. Problem is, will the air even have enough momentum to flow up the hose and into the intake? __________________ 32x11.5x15 BFG A/Ts, TT/shackles. college = no money for mods.

08-09-2002, 01:31 AM	#5
Alec Mod Emeritus Houston, Texas 2008 JK Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 16,056 Vehicle Specs	Using one of the code scanners that can read sensors: after adding a custom aluminum heat shield to block header heat and and adding some dryer hose, my intake temps are about 5-10 degrees cooler than before when above 35 mph. now once I'm moving, intake air temps are about 5-12 degrees above ambient. __________________ Alec "Dr. Candlepower" Rosenbaum Daily: 2008 JK Gone: EE "Splat", 2003 VW GTI VR6, 85 Bronco project

08-09-2002, 01:34 AM	#6
psychotic Wannabe Elite Explorer Olathe, KS RIP: '02 V8 Limited 4WD Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 912 Vehicle Specs	Hmm, as i see it, the air won't need momentum to move up the dryer hose, am i wrong? __________________ CLICK HERE TO SEE MY 2002 4.6L LIMITED

08-09-2002, 01:38 AM	#7
Alec Mod Emeritus Houston, Texas 2008 JK Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 16,056 Vehicle Specs	depends on how you do it. if you rig up the dryer hose so it firmly contacts the air filter (or a sealed airbox), the hose should create suction when the motor needs air. I on the other hand, just routed my hoses so they're "near" the air filter. I sometimes go through deep water and live in a wet climate, so I don't want any suction from below the filter. Above about 30-35 mph, the air has enough force to flow up through the hoses. Below that it doesn't do anything. It's nice to be able to go through water over 3' deep __________________ Alec "Dr. Candlepower" Rosenbaum Daily: 2008 JK Gone: EE "Splat", 2003 VW GTI VR6, 85 Bronco project

08-09-2002, 01:49 AM	#8
psychotic Wannabe Elite Explorer Olathe, KS RIP: '02 V8 Limited 4WD Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 912 Vehicle Specs	so lets say i had like a large heat shield over my fipk, and a few dryer hoses coming from it... they would create suction? and this shouldn't be a problem street driving, because there would be no water to suck up into the filter? (this is what i was planning to do, i'm just not smart enough to figure out how to do it myself) __________________ CLICK HERE TO SEE MY 2002 4.6L LIMITED

08-09-2002, 03:51 PM	#9
Rhett Let Them Eat Cake Cape Girardeau, MO 94 Sport 4x4 Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,217 Vehicle Specs	Alec, how did you mount your aluminum heat shield? __________________ 94 Sport 4x4; EA cone filter; Granitelli MAF; BBK 66mm TB; Jacobs wires; Magnaflow w/2.5" pipe; Rancho RS9000; EE sways; Apten dual-program chip; Visteon Super-Cool radiator; BFG 30 x 9.50's; AMSOIL throughout; etc. etc.

08-09-2002, 04:17 PM	#10
Jason_25 Elite Explorer ECX Member New Bern, NC '95 Explorer "Expedition" Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 5,349 Vehicle Specs	Alec, do you have any current pictures of your intake? I'm very interested. __________________ 1995 Explorer "Expedition" 4.0 4x4 1987 Bronco II XLT 2.9 4x4 1988 Bronco II XLT 2.9 4x2 1997 Explorer XLT 5.0 4x2 My Truck

08-09-2002, 06:15 PM	#11
Alec Mod Emeritus Houston, Texas 2008 JK Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 16,056 Vehicle Specs	sorry, no current pics. I tried, but even to my trained eye it came out like looking at a pile of junk (which is what it is ) the al heat shield is just an aluminum sheet that's bent a bit into place with a few self-tapping screws in it to secure it. it goes from the 'floor' where the air filter is up to the bottom of the mas. up top, a strap that's screwed into the sheet runs under a hose clamp on the intake tube to secure it up there. the dryer hose: one length extends from the opening of the stock air scoop to behind the bumper with a little scoop on it. another length starts in the front 'mouth' opening of the bumper, runs up behind the headlight, and exits to the front of the air filter. with the shield i noticed the motor bogged a bit less in city driving. with the hose, i noticed a bit more throttle response on the highway. __________________ Alec "Dr. Candlepower" Rosenbaum Daily: 2008 JK Gone: EE "Splat", 2003 VW GTI VR6, 85 Bronco project

08-09-2002, 06:57 PM	#12
psychotic Wannabe Elite Explorer Olathe, KS RIP: '02 V8 Limited 4WD Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 912 Vehicle Specs	Hey guys, i just picked up some aluminum flashing and a 4 inch aluminum dryer hose. Sucking up water is no issue.... so which set up should give me more acceleration? Making a sort of closed box of aluminum around the intake with the dryer hose coming out of it and going down to draw cool air in around the fog lights or bumper.... OR using the aluminum to just make a heat shield on one side of the intake, and use the dryer hose in the same way, only just placing it near the intake.... what do you guys think? personally i think the box idea would give cooler air/more power... but i don't honestly know. __________________ CLICK HERE TO SEE MY 2002 4.6L LIMITED

08-09-2002, 07:48 PM	#13
Alec Mod Emeritus Houston, Texas 2008 JK Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 16,056 Vehicle Specs	unless you form a completely sealed airbox, the dryer hose wont create suction. so might as well go the easy route and just seal off the filter on one side from the engine heat and run the dryer hose close to it. don't expect huge power gains, but it will help. __________________ Alec "Dr. Candlepower" Rosenbaum Daily: 2008 JK Gone: EE "Splat", 2003 VW GTI VR6, 85 Bronco project

08-09-2002, 08:02 PM	#14
psychotic Wannabe Elite Explorer Olathe, KS RIP: '02 V8 Limited 4WD Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 912 Vehicle Specs	the 4 in hose won't fit anywhere.... 3 in will do the trick... do they make 3 inch aluminum dryer hose?? I'm thinkin about using the 4 inch to cover my rubber intake tube __________________ CLICK HERE TO SEE MY 2002 4.6L LIMITED

08-09-2002, 08:46 PM	#15
Alec Mod Emeritus Houston, Texas 2008 JK Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 16,056 Vehicle Specs	my dryer hose is vinyl. it's easier to bend w/o tearing and conducts less heat. __________________ Alec "Dr. Candlepower" Rosenbaum Daily: 2008 JK Gone: EE "Splat", 2003 VW GTI VR6, 85 Bronco project

08-10-2002, 01:40 AM	#16
Rhett Let Them Eat Cake Cape Girardeau, MO 94 Sport 4x4 Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,217 Vehicle Specs	I used Cool Tape to insulate the air tube. Supposedly it reflects away most heat but since I have no IAT thermistor I can't verify this. I'm gonna rig some sort of heat shield now, since I need to get my mod fix for the week hehehe __________________ 94 Sport 4x4; EA cone filter; Granitelli MAF; BBK 66mm TB; Jacobs wires; Magnaflow w/2.5" pipe; Rancho RS9000; EE sways; Apten dual-program chip; Visteon Super-Cool radiator; BFG 30 x 9.50's; AMSOIL throughout; etc. etc.

08-10-2002, 01:53 AM	#17
psychotic Wannabe Elite Explorer Olathe, KS RIP: '02 V8 Limited 4WD Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 912 Vehicle Specs	whats cool tape?, where can you get it __________________ CLICK HERE TO SEE MY 2002 4.6L LIMITED

08-18-2002, 12:29 PM	#18
Rhett Let Them Eat Cake Cape Girardeau, MO 94 Sport 4x4 Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,217 Vehicle Specs	Do a search on the forum here about Cool Tape if u want to know about it. fyi, Martel Brothers Performance www.martelbros.com __________________ 94 Sport 4x4; EA cone filter; Granitelli MAF; BBK 66mm TB; Jacobs wires; Magnaflow w/2.5" pipe; Rancho RS9000; EE sways; Apten dual-program chip; Visteon Super-Cool radiator; BFG 30 x 9.50's; AMSOIL throughout; etc. etc.

08-18-2002, 01:06 PM	#19
diablo5969 Elite Explorer ECX Member sXc Member Versailles, KY (Home) Poughkeepsie, NY (School) 2004 Honda Pilot LX Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,677 Vehicle Specs	I want to do something like this too. Create a type of heatshield around the intake, and use dryer hose to bring in cooler air. Has anyone done this with a first generation Explorer? If you have, where did you mount the dryer hose? I can't find a really good location without the hose bending and twisting a lot. Or is that not really a problem if the hose bends and twists a lot? __________________ -- Chase My 1994 Ford Explorer XLT RIP 3/15/04: Explorer No More My 2004 Honda Pilot LX: My New Truck