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01STrunner's Sport Trac D44 SAS/SOA

Discussion in 'Solid Axle Swap Registry' started by 01STrunner, April 24, 2013.


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      Thanks man, I'll check out the spread sheet for parts.
       
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    3. 01STrunner

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      I went with the offroad club at school to a place in Toccoa, GA yesterday to test out the SAS now that it finally has 4wd. Unfortunately it was pretty slice from snow melt and being open/open hindered everyone. I was able to get my buddy to bring his ST with 33s and TT/Shackles to the trail. There were a lot of parts where the extra 8" or so of travel really helped to keep my tires planted. It flexed out great, no rub, but I still need to bend the gas tank skid plate some more to avoid the terrible grinding of my rear driveshaft when flexing.

      Upsides: great flex, and didn't have to worry about coming down on the belly (except on a big rock ledge at the beginning, but then again the locked TJ on 42s almost did too)

      Downsides:
      The truck is really tippy with the BL in and got a little sketchy on some steep turns and off camber ledges.
      I NEED to get the Aussie lockers in. This would allow for a lot more control and slower speed where the height wouldn't be as much of a problem.

      Overall, I'm happy with the SAS and the way it performed. Kind of wishing I had gone full width but I guess you have to leave room for improvement.
       
    4. 01STrunner

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      Don't get nervous about it feeling tipsy, you just need to drive and wheel it more to get comfortable with the way it handles now, that's all. Nice pictures.
       
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      Wish I could have joined. The truck looks awesome in it's natural environment. I hope to check it out in person soon.
       
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      Like rebel said the more you wheel it you will be more aware of your ST's limits. If you're still uncomfortable then remove the BL.

      Good looking ST!
       
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      Looks like some fun trails! Glad to see that it's being used for what it what was built for :thumbsup:
       
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      Could you possibly post some pics of your steering box setup!
       
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      There things always look so wonderful and natural SAS'd.
       
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      Thanks everyone! The BL is still in but it will come out one day. I've been on a few more trips and The SAS/SOA is very helpful on trails but the overall height kills how close I can get to trees and walls.


       
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      good looking build.. I like the way you did the shackle mounts off of the frame, might be borrowing some ideas for my leaf sprung sas
       
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      Thanks! I can't take full credit as I had help from Murphys Motorsports in VA. If you're doing leaf springs make sure you use a wider axle than the grand waggy 44 or one with the diff closer to center. My 35x1250s rub on the springs and it pisses me off to no end. Unfortunately the springs are moved as far inboard as they can because the diff is in the way to go any further.
       
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      Sounds like you need to get longer bump stop bolts for your steering or get a different wheel with less backspacing/ possibly spacers.
       

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      I wish I could afford different wheels. I don't really want to adjust the steering stops just on the off chance that extra couple degrees of turning could help get over something.
       
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      I'm not going too hardcore with this build.. my Explorer is still my main wheeler, just thinking a sas ranger would be a nice camping rig. picking up a yj D30 this weekend for it.
       
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      That axle would probably line up better especially with the smaller D30 diff. Does the axle still have the leaf springs? That was another big part of me keeping leaves on my 44.
       
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      no springs but the perches are still there. Still trying to figure out what leaf springs to use and locate some wj knuckles for home brew high steer
       
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      Either use Grand Waggy springs or Rancho springs like I am. The part number is listed in my build thread. The YJ leafs don't have a strong enough spring rate for our larger trucks.
       
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      I used the grand waggy springs on mine and they hold the weight of the ST like its nothing. I actually am considering taking a leaf out to help with flexibility. I could use a little more up travel. As for knuckles I actually used a machines flat top for my steering.
       
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      A few pics from last weekend giving the SAS a workout. Sadly no pictures from the harder stuff in the rock gardens but this was a challenging hill climb.

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      Lockers, Lockers, Lockers...












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      Lol you suck. But you're right. I need them badly
       
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      Lockers, Lockers, Lockers... Or not....

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      Waiting on a new tone ring to show up. The lockers are in the carriers, but waiting to reinstall the carriers into the housing.
       
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      I like the idea of SAS, but I'm completely new to it. It's something I'd like to do to my truck but I have no idea where to start. It's a future project, not going to be happening any time soon. But I wouldn't mind being spun up on it. Thanks in advance !
       
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      It's the best thing I've done to my rig. I think solid axles are easier to work on and diagnose problems should any arise. The extra travel is amazing compared to my original setup and it's nice to easily find replacement parts. In the end you get a stronger axle with more wheel travel. No real downside except the time and money. I didn't lose any on road characteristics either. She still does 70mph with ease and no vibrations.
       

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