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$200 V8 Project

Discussion in 'Stock 1995 - 2001 Explorers' started by RandomNerd2000, March 3, 2017.

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      Sweet truck!!
       
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      I thought so, I gave $200 for it, it's got 260K miles, was sold as rusted out and needing a fuel pump, but I've been around these enough I knew it was worth three or four times what he wanted, and I jumped right on it, I'd been hunting a V8 Explorer again in a cheaper bracket since last June, and I got right on it.
       
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      Amazing truck for $200! Wow
       
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      Ditto, and it looks great for any vehicle 18 years old.

      I'd replace the control arms if they need BJ's, the bushings are surely worn a bunch too at this age. I just got four new Moog arms, about $330 total, the better uppers and the only lowers they make.

      Check your end links of the sway bar too, up north those break.
       
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      I did a full inspection, it hasn't had anything touched in years, the front end has play in the ball joints and the tie rods are sloppy, figured as much, end links are decent still, they're Moog end links, or at least they have the blue bushings and I've always associated that with Moog.
       
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      So, I have updates on this, since I'm making progress. Discovered the moon roof leaks, cleared the drains out, think that'll solve that. Decided to tackle doors, passenger door works perfectly now, latch is some stiff still but it's coming along, don't think the actuator has been functional in years. Drivers door has been a total PITA to get decent, the door actuator rivet wouldn't punch out with anything, started with a small punch and ended with air hammer, would NOT budge, so I managed to grind the entire rivet off with a air grinder, hole isn't perfect anymore, but a washer will shim it up perfectly. In other news, the ball joints are the worst I've ever seen, the tie rods aren't winning awards either. Passenger side manifold is cracked, haven't decided if the engine is really worth the swearing it would take to replace that, since I might as well get the EGR tube and such too, also looked at the window, turns out, it wasn't off the track, the brackets that are glued to the bottom of it on each side had come loose, the only thing holding it up was age, I glued them back on and they're still curing out before I give it a try. Questions are, the EGR tube and RH exhaust manifold, off a blown up 98 Explorer, it a direct fit? Other question is, how hard is R/R the hatch? I want a one color truck lol
       
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      The manifolds are a swap, the bolts not breaking in the heads are the big worry. The hatch is very heavy to work with, two people is best. There is very little adjustment for the hinges, be sure to use two that are good(not bent).
       
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      2 people, ladder, 2x4's. It's a heavy mother and difficult/clumsy to work with. Consider removing the glass first to eliminate some weight. If you manage to break the glass let me know I have a spare piece. I also have misc lift-gate pieces, wiring and a red lift-gate shell.
       
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      I have a good glass, the blue hatch that's on there works perfectly, I even put a key cylinder in it, but it's not white and the one at the JY is and works perfectly, and am going to remove the glass, it's easy enough since I had to put the hinges on the glass on the blue one.
       
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      Just did the rear latch actuator...

      I consider many steps in the process to have been done by miracle - as they were physically impossible by man.
       
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      So figured I'd update this thread, since a friend asked about it who follows this thread. To start, I haven't sold it, it's becoming my daily when my 01 Eddie B goes under the knife for the V8 swap I'm almost certain I'm gonna do, put the seats in out my 99, so much better than the ripped up seats it had, also put in a radio I got at Walmart with speakers for $40 on clearance, Bluetooth radios certainly are nice, it's a Pioneer, didn't cut the harness either, front end rebuild and hatch are next, then I'm golden to daily it, absolutely love it, reminds me of my 99 a lot and I had no problems liking it as much as I did that truck, even though I still miss that one a lot, also have plans to put 31" MTs on it and maybe put a sub box out a Mach system in there, since I like the sub in my 01 EB a lot.
       
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      So the time came to daily this, the light green truck just needs a lot of work and this is cheaper to put on the road, and I want to V8 swap the EB so this has to happen eventually, so I sat down with it, put the seats out my 99 in it, mint condition leather seats, a new Bluetooth Pioneer and four door speakers, and the tires from the 99 with wheels, then it came time to tackle the main issues mechanically, the front end was all FACTORY at 257K, the lower ball joints were worn through, I'm not making that up, new joints and the truck sits a ton better in the front, it's level and I like these trucks level so no TT required, also fixed the wandering, someone set the RF upper control arm all the way frontwards? I just copied the bolt alignment from the 99 and boom, drives great, not sure what the reasoning was behind that. Otherwise, I've made amazing progress and there's very LITTLE rust under there.
       
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      So I've just got to tackle the DMV and then it's my daily, I've driven it around my dads fields, gas is stale and wipers went to bits, been sitting a LONG time, long before I got it, but it runs good and performs really well, almost the twin to my 99, didn't take long to like it.
       

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      Put some pure gas in it for a tank or two, and fuel injector cleaner of some kind.
       
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      Did just that, run it down to half a tank and topped it off with pure gas, that helped the way it runs a LOT, I drove it around 100 miles for the first journey, had a lot of fun driving it, doesn't wander or anything, drives the best of about any Explorer I've driven, wasn't the greatest running until it got some clean gas put in, and that fired it up, it's a blast to drive, needs some TLC in places interior wise but I'm happier driving this than the EB since the SOHC seemed to like trying for that, now to start saving for the V8 Eddie Bauer swap.
       
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      So, did some work on it, changed out the OEM serpentine belt at 257K, not making that up, a Motorcraft belt with obviously a ton of wear, not cracked bad but I took the one from the 99 and switched them, that one had a new belt, put a new idler and tensioner pulley on it, both were OEM as well, couldn't last but so long, then I came up with my first real snag of driving it daily, the thermostat failed, I think, someone give me input on this I need the truck in the morning, when I started driving it it didn't warm all the way up, then it got to where it did, then it started running warm, not hot, and I've got a new thermostat to go in it, but I'm concerned because when it's hot, the upper hose has no pressure in it, it's not leaking however and staying full, heat is hot inside of it. Radiator cap a suspect? I have several so it's not a big deal to me but I want to know before I have a disaster and it run hot.
       
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      It's possible it has some air in it, which disguises the actual temperature of the coolant inside the engine. Did you open anything of the cooling system at all?

      If you think it's running hot, check the coolant quality and then plan for a change of the T-stat, and other hoses if you can. I did all of mine(except the heater core hoses) the one time I could work on it before needing it at work. The rubber gets very weak with age, looks fine but a little extra pressure(temp) and they can blow.

      I suggest a 180* T-stat for your/this area, you don't the extra heat now or in the Winter. It doesn't affect engine A/F ratio at 180, that has to be under something like 140 or so do something negative. I like the Motorad T-stat, those are made to lock open if they overheat, which is much better than possibly sticking shut or partially shut.
       
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      So update, cooling system issues are fixed, thermostat and radiator cap, both were OEM, also did hoses and while in there the serpentine belt and idlers (all Motorcraft stuff being replaced), then drove it like 200 miles, now I've got a misfire, so I pulled some plugs for checking them out, all 8 are a mismatched set, one was an OEM plug, and it looks the part of 257K miles so I'm doing the plugs tomorrow, hopefully don't have any break off, had four out for inspection and they all came right out, looked rough though.
       
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      So following the spark plug that rounded and was brought out with a bolt grip, I drove it well over 100 miles with some enthusiasm, absolutely LOVE this truck, V8 Eddie Bauer is definitely happening, also took the time to get some stuff to put a sub in the back as well as try my hand at window tinting, also got a hood visor and Limited grille, so I'm making changes, gonna get the white rear hatch in a few days hopefully, smoke the tails and do custom lights all around it.
       
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      That truck is getting lots of great care, no doubt you've saved it and it will last for many more years. Keep at it, love it more and more.
       
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      Exactly what did you use to get the rounded plug out? I just rounded one in my son's '97 Mountaineer. The rest came out with no problem, but the heat shield didn't allow enough clearance on this one. I rounded the plug trying to get the shield out and getting a socket on the plug.
       
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      Personally, I broke the top off of the plug so I could get an Irwin Bolt Grip on it and it brought it right out, a 5/8" one, comes in a $20 set at Lowes, there's a link in this thread for a deep wall one though, this is the thread I made about it.

      http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/index.php?threads/5-0l-with-a-rounded-spark-plug.464319/
       
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      Thanks! The one I rounded off is also #3 cylinder!
       
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      No problem, I personally would go the deep wall route if you have access to the Snap-On truck, but that worked for me and saved me pulling the head on a 5.0 with 257K
       
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      So, since then, I've been driving it, and it's strong as can be now, and getting actually really good fuel economy, averaging 20MPG at 65 on the highway, running no name highway tires, that's better than my SOHC by far, I averaged 16 out of it. Did a DIY 20% tint on the front windows, came out rather well for a first time tinting, looks great too, changed the way the truck looks and I love it.
       

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