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4.0 SOHC Custom Exhaust Options

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      hey guys i'm new here, in fact this is my first thread! :D
      anyway, i have a 2000 Sport with the 4.0 SOHC and i'm looking for opinions or advice from ppl with firsthand experience about EXHAUST. I am looking to put a catback system on my x but i've heard so much about exhaust that i wanted some ideas from other explorer owners first.

      first off, i've heard that ford vehicles in general run better with straight through mufflers because the smaller but higher output engines (as compared to chevy or dodge) depend more on exhaust gas velocity to create power.

      i have also heard, however, that you can lose low end torque if there is not enough backpressure on the engine.

      currently i have NO muffler on my Sport, the exhaust pipes simply come out of the cats and dump straight down where the muffler would be. the highway passing power is great, but my off-the-line performance SUUUXXXXX. what i'd like to have is an exhaust system that is not too loud inside the vehicle but is still noticeably aggressive outside when i stomp on the gas. i'd like to keep a little highway passing power, as i drive on the interstate regularly but i'd like to be able to bark the tires on a launch.
      here are the setups i have considered....

      magnaflow dual in/single out (for slightly more backpressure and possibly low-end torque?)

      magnaflow dual in/dual out (for good flow, but will backpressure be noticably low?)

      dynomax superturbo true dual (i've heard good performance reviews but how loud are these mufflers inside the cabin?)

      also, i'm open to suggestions from any of you! if you have an exhaust system you LOVE feel free to share it!

      and lastly, what kind of pipe size should i use? i know the pre-muffler factory exhaust is 2-1/4" but what size should i use for the after-muffler pipe, with each configuration?

      sorry for being so wordy, thanks guys!
       
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      aldive Elite In Memoriam

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      Nonsense.

      2 1/2" pipe works best with the SOHC
       
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      Pick up a book or two on exhaust theory, you'll know exactly why "back pressure" is unnecessary and why you have no power/torque starting from a dead stop.
       
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      well see that's the problem... i can read hours of exhaust theory material, but everyone seems to have their own opinion when it comes to backpressure. some say it's best to have very little back pressure, others say that stock and near-stock motors are <i>designed</i> to run better with their backpressure enducing oem mufflers. i dont know what to believe and what's crap, that's why i'm asking the people on this forum, so i can get some firsthand advice from people who have more personal experience than i do.
       
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      Ah but the people on the forum are on the same boat as you and most do not know what to believe -- so you really have to get a book and get it straight from the experts' mouths -- people who have actually done the nitty gritty such as flow measurements and dyno tests of these systems.
       
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      any idea where to find something like that? an auto parts store? or a library or what? i appreciate the help. obviously internet resources are going to be mostly subjective....
       
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      is that 2-1/2" pipe single or dual? from what i can tell, the Dual/Dual magnaflow looks like my best bet with 2-1/4" pipes all the way back (ford must've put 2-1/4" pipes coming off each manifold and cat for some reason right?) can anyone give me some ideas about the sound of different mufflers? like i said, i wanna be able to hear the radio on the interstate when i have my windows up...
       
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      Its based on single exhaust. I wouldn't recommend a dual.
       
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      I got dual 40 series flowmasters on my 01 sport and they are 2 1/2 inch tips
       
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      Sorry for the delay.

      Here are two:
      Scientific Design of Exhaust & Intake Systems (isbn: 0837603099)
      Practical Gas Flow (isbn: 1855205645)

      Out of the two, I recommend the first one -- the second one focuses almost too heavily on everything before the exhaust manifold/headers so its mostly head modifications, valve modifications, and so on.
       
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      wowwwwwww... i just looked it up... that book is $100... lol looks pretty interesting though, thanks for the recommendation.

      update on my x,
      i sold some extra stuff laying around the house today, and made a little money. advance auto was having a sale on thrush glasspacks and today was the last day before the price went back up by about $10 each.... sooooo i kinda splurged and just bought a pair of glasspacks. just installed them about an hour ago, and it sounds surprisingly smooth for now, i'm sure they'll break in soon though. i just have to keep an eye on them and make sure they dont start sounding like fart cans. i may upload sound bytes if anyone's interested
       
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      alright, i'll get a few clips for ya tomorrow,
      right now i'm running true duals with cats, glasspacks and no tailpipes
      sounds pretty mellow at the moment, absolutely NO popping, which surprised me, and interior noise is lower than the generic brand chambered muffler i had on it last year

      i'll be sure to post more vids as the glasspacks break in and their tone changes
       
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      Exhaust Clips

      2000 Ford Explorer Sport
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      25" long Glasspacks
      2-1/4" pipes
      no tailpipes...yet

      [​IMG]
       
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      I must say, I would not go that route but I do like the sound. Although I myself am looking for a slightly deeper tone. I have some year ex sport and will be workin on getting a custom cat back here shortly. Still deciding on a muffler and when to get it done. I think i will end up having a two in to one muffler with 2.5 tailpipe. Not sure what muffler yet.
       
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      I had a chambered muffler on it last year (dual in/dual out), and it was slightly deeper tone, but there was no growl to it, it just kinda hummed. if that's the sound you like then go for it, but i thought the highway drone was VERY annoying. i was looking for something that flowed better and had a more aggressive sound. between then and now i ran NO muffler and i liked the growl, but the popping was terrible and it was a little too loud, that's why i went with the glasspacks. as they break in hopefully i'll get a little more growl. also a little advice on buying.
      1. personally, if you're having the cat-back system custom made at a shop. make sure they're giving you the muffler you ask for. (when i got my chambered muffler put on, the shop told me they were putting on a flowmaster, turns out it was just a generic brand, there was no "Flowmaster" stamped on the outside case)

      2. secondly ask how much they're asking for the muffler, sometimes you can find the same muffler the shop offers for cheaper if you go online. but once again, make sure you get the brand you ask for.

      3. thirdly, go back and look at the work after they're done. I just drove off, but a year later when i looked at the tailpipes, they had holes in the welds, the pipes were welded at odd angles instead of bending them properly, and one of the pipes didnt clear my axle far enough and it was bent where the axle had banged against it for months.

      4. in short, just be sure you get exactly what you pay for. dont let someone take your money if they're gonna send you home with a generic brand muffler, bad welds, and poor exhaust layout. i learned this the hard way, unfortunately i just didnt know any better at the time.
       
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      Have been told that not having a tailpipe(s) is detramental to your truck performance. The added heat from the exhaust heats up the fuel lines and everything under your truck. I believe that it is explained in my thread "premade VS. Custom Cat Back Exhaust". So I would definatly work on getting some tailpipes.
       
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      ... not to mention your health.
       
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      Thats for sure. Figured that was obvious. But, then again.... :confused:
       
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      True, but so is using a tailpipe(s).
       
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      Very True. Very True. But, this is how people learn. I know that I had no clue about what kind of exhaust to get. Thats the great thing about the forum, it connects those that know with those that dont. Everyone can find something to benefit from.

      This is a perfect example.
       
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      I prefer tailpipes for those reasons, but it also lowers the volume. Tailpipes are easy to choose, the tips and mufflers are key. Do the tips for looks, and mufflers for the sound you want.

      Note that bigger tips make it all louder, a 4.0 engine doesn't need larger than one 3" tailpipe. Those glass packs seem rather quiet for the typical expectations, that they are larger helps. The smaller the total volume of muffler there is, the louder the exhaust will be.

      I would like to hear more of the Borla XS mufflers, they seem really small(short), but supposedly are among the quietest. I have one Edelbrock SDT muffler(plus a resonator) in my SOHC truck, it could be quieter for my use. I need two mufflers with more flow for my V8 truck, I wish the XS mufflers came about twice as long. Regards,
       
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      yeah i've noticed biiig performance changes when working with my tailpipe-less exhaust. with no muffler my highway mileage SUCKED, but just with the glasspacks it has improved a little. as soon as i get some more cash i'm gonna finish out the rest of the exhaust, (and maybe add an H/X pipe, i hear they really help v6's perform better) but thanks for that bit of info, that kinda helps me realize why my mileage has been bad recently.
       
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      personally as far as tips go, i REALLY like the way dual 22" x 3.5" chrome tips look on a X Sport. :D
      [​IMG]
      they're really sporty and aggressive looking, plus they sound pretty deep.
      note: the chrome looks better clean
       
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      i personally like the lightning style tips, im thinking i might try to get a shop to do a catless duals with h pipe and slp loudmouth's or something of that nature, not sure on piping size, dual 2" would be sufficient? im gonna go with dual chrome tips out each side in front of the rear spring hangar...my flowmaster delta 40 single in single out is just not loud enough for me at all. Its nice for a classy tone, i might get some videos up eventually but its just not loud enough :D
       

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