Discussion in 'Body Work & Detailing' started by MONMIX, November 7, 2004.
Nice write up Kevin.. So when do you want to do pull all the dents/character marks in my truck..
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Very nicely done....
Question: were you sucking in your stomach when you took that first picture?
j/k with you man. Nice write up! If it was my truck I would've left it alone.
Thats a good job. I plan to be taking on my own body projects 2. thanks 4 the info
Gosh, this reminds me of my high school days. I did the exact same stuff you described when I was working on cars. I also painted the cars too. I love doing that stuff!!
Thanks, but I would have MUCH rather the glass had been hit.
Thanks, you tell me when man. You know I will hook you up.
Thanks ummmmmmmm I don't remember.
Fantastic series MonMix! This HAS to go to Most Useful Threads. I can't do bodywork for beans, so this was a terrific primer for me (again).... but I can paint, not expert by any means but reasonably well...... so I am planning a "My Explorer Paint Diary" soon since my 92 needs paint, and of course Black (hardest color of all)...just have to reserve the paint booth and find someone to take some pics while I am painting (and find the time to do it all) - I have the paint and clear... I will be using base/clear so will be using supplied air to breathe.... but this thread was great. KUDO'S to YOU !! Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I'm nominating your effort!
Yikes wow thanks !!!!!
I am hoping to get this as a sitckey in the Body Work dept or put into Useful threads.
yeah black sucks for body work. It is cake to shoot ( according to our painter at least ) We will have to piggy back your paint thread to this body work thread.
Great job! I too am planning on painting my explorer this winter, except i have some nice big patches to weld in. Right on both rear fender lips. How hard was it to get the rear glass out? Was it harded to put back in?
I am planning on using a Nason base clear version of the 2003 Torreador Red, which is a tricoat, so hopefully I can get something close. I've heard Black is the easiest to shoot too, and I've also heard that it's the cheapest to buy. Red unfortunately is the most expensive. I know the chromabase tri-coats ain't cheap from last winter's experience.
I'm helping on one of my dad's cars, just a quick fix to sell the little runt 914. The paint is so thick we need to bring the fill to it just to get it half ways stright. No word of a lie its 3/32 to 1/18 thick.
I've heard that adage too Monmix, but my buddy who's a painted says that a body man is just somebody who couldn't paint. This better make the most useful threads! AWESOME writeup!
I'm thinking this... a good body man is patient.... he has to be.... a painter, especially these days with catalyzed paints... can't afford the luxury of time... he has to keep a wet edge and keep moving... patience is not a virtue here for him. Opposites. When I am painting I like everything set to go before I start and it never stops until I am done (ok maybe long enough to clean the gun between base and clear while it tacks off, but I am still busy cleaning and mixing)
I second the motion for this thread being listed on the useful thread forum or atleast stickied to the top..
I 4th that, great write up monmix, awesome job....
I am gonna assume you mean the fixed glass and not the wing glass.
No, it is not very hard to get out.
Unlike MOST vehicles the glass on Ford Explorers is NOT urathaned in.
Remove a hand full of 9mm nuts and cut the seal.
I have a pnumatic window knife, but a utility knife will work too but not as easy and lacks in the oooh and ahhhh factor.
Any way cut it as much as you can and push outward bit by bit, evenly.
Have a buddy out there to catch the glass. Remember there is a plastic frame attached to the glass so if it gets too tough to cut you need to check your angle.
A little thumb action will clean up the old " window kit "
Don't even think about reusing the old window kit.
1/4 inch is the size you want for the reinstal.
There is a channel on the frame of the glass to show you where to run the window kit.
Make the seam at the bottom for reasons that should be obvious.
Have a buddy hold the glass in place, slip on the 9mm nuts and tighten bit by bit evenly staggering the tightneing points. Meaning one on the top, one on the left, one on the bottom, one on the right, you get the picture.
Just pull it all in evenly.
it is not a bad job at all
Thanks for the walk through. Would it be possible to just remove the trim around the glass, that way I can hide the mask line under the trim? Similar to what I've done with windshields?
EDIT: Thought I'd add why I want to do this. I don't want to have to remove the glass twice. I plan on keeping the truck on the road while I do panels and patches and prime. One night at a time.
Nope, that trim is perminate.
Even on the first gens? That sucks. So basically once I take it off, I need to replace it with a new one? Or is that the kit you are talking about? It's in crap condition anyways, guess it'll be a good excuse to replace it.
Very nice write-up. It is great to have an actual body man do a write up, because they truly know what they are doing, unlike me. I will refer to this as I continue to remove the character from my X. lol
Window kit is this,,,,, adhesive putty on a string sort of stuff.
One box of window kit you can remove and install the window about a dozen times.
Sorry to keep bugging, but I'm not understanding something. When you say the trim is permanent, do you mean it can't be reused? Or were you talking about the window kit?
The trim, the plastic you see around the edge of the glass.
This is preminate.
The window kit you can not see. You can not reuse this stuff. It is far from perminate.
WOW, that is i can say, but it is some thing that you do every day i now know why a small dent costs a grand.
by the way what was the final price??
thanks for the info
Pay for shop materials that is all
I love my job.
Well I now have to install new tires on the painters car but that ain't no thing.
Writeups like this, are what make this site so great.