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Brakes don´t have initial bite

Discussion in 'Stock 2006 -2010 Explorers' started by Explorer75, November 10, 2017.

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      Yeah I will say I was recently reading through the manual and it specifically said something about abs having an affect on the pedal feel.
       
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      So, I got news

      Received and installed the Akebono Performance pads on the front. Instantly the brakes felt with more bite. The Akebono´s Pro Act in the front were glazed. So 1 week later I checked the performance pads on the front, they are perfect, checked the pro act on the rear and they were completely glazed. Sanded them and will check them in 1 week. I presume this brakes tend to overheat and glaze, that is why they usually perform poorly. I will check with the Akebono tech to see what next.
       
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      OK, presumably the pads glazed because the new rotors were not completely clean from the oil they are covered from factory. Brakes are having a solid bite, in that part I´m happy. The Initial bite still isn´t there, the brake delay is still there, I think it is because of the slide pins. Every time I put them together and lube them they slide fine, when I take them apart they are very stiff. I´ve used 3 different types of lube. Even different quantity, still afterwards they are stiff. How much lube you guys put? maybe I need to put just a tiny bit?
       
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      I always have same problems with the pins.
      Just put small amount of grease. Just did that 2 weeks ago, we'll see in the future.

      I just did something on the rear, and those are in perfect shape, slide very easily. I did not open them or re-lube in 12 years. Go figure.
       
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      OK, I got caliper grease https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CIHTPE for the pins, they slide very nice now, this grease is not sticky as the brake lube usually used, like it very much.
      Ford the back of the pads and the contact points, metal to metal I used https://www.amazon.com/3M-08945-Copper-Seize-Brake/dp/B00HSCN9IS what I like about this is that it still is an antiseize but won´t drip, has a 2000 F rating. It´s thick and will stay in place wherever you put it, it isn't oily either like most anti seize. Still you can use it on the brakes and as anti seize for bolts and oxygen sensors (duh).

      So far so good for lubricating.

      As for the pads, the performance akebonos on the front held very good, they are biting real good. The pro act on the rear glazed again! Maybe if the rear were doing their job the brake would be better.
      My braking was very conservative, so I have to think what to do on the rear. Thinking about getting the 3rd generation rear performance Akebonos pads, 881 casting. It´s very much the same as the 1109, just a tiny bit smaller, we are talking less than half mm.
       
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      Deleted my previous post where I marked this problem as solved. It isn´t.
      It´s better than before but I somehow adjusted to the feel. As soon as I drove another vehicle I knew right away the problem is still there.
      I´m installing custom braided brake lines soon, report back.
       
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