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long awaited pics!
Ok, here are the long awaited pics of the springover we did. I don't have detailed pics as to the modifications I did to things like the spring plate, or the shock mounts that I moved over. I'll try to get unser it and take some pics soon. For now here's the short of it with us going fro the traditional Wrangler spring under with Rubicon Express 4" leaves, to the spring over with stock Wrangler springs. Here's a pic before http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/familypics005.jpg I used a kit from Rocky Road outfitteres in Utah, he has a kit the Wrangler and will sell the parts needed for doing just the front axle. Here is the kit installed, it doesn't require welding as the new spring perches sit on top of the axle and bottom out on top of the old springunder perches. Here I'm doing a little grinding to get the new perch seated fully, it needed just a little. http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/familypics008.jpg Here is the finished front with everything bolted together, as you can see the springs are now much more out of harms way. http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/familypics010.jpg also you'll note that the bottom spring plate is actually a skid plate. We originaly wanted to install Teraflex's new fiberglass leafs, but they sent the longer versionj designed for a softer ride. We got the correct standard length too late, but here is a pic of them, http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/familypics007.jpg They will be installed when Daniel comes back on leave from Iraq in the fall of '07. You wanted flex pic, well here they are! I think the effort was well worth it. As a side note the Detroit Truetrac was swapped out in front for a Powertrax No-slip, the same as is in the rear axle. This flex machine really gets the stares! http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/100_0047.jpg http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/100_0036.jpg http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/100_0110.jpg http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/100_0068.jpg http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/100_0051.jpg And here is a comparison pic next to my other son Jon's '88 4" lifted XJ http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/familypics023.jpg
My friend Joel pointed this out to me as i have a D30 with the hub conversion and a minty ARB waiting to go into my B2 and i have been trying to figure uot the radius arms and what coils to use but after reading this I do beleive I will use this thanks very much excellent info
After some trail use I thought I'd make a little modification. It seems that we had too much up travel and the front tires were trying to occupy the same time and space as the fenders, not good. Being that sometimes the simplest solution is often the best, I looked around the shop to see what I could make some bump stops out of. I came up with a pair of front bump stops and mounting cups from a Jeep Cherokee (this thing is gradualy turning more and more into a Jeep!) Here is the pic of the mount welded on to the BII spring/shock mount http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/jamespics001.jpg Here is a pic of the bumper installed, very simple and works well. http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/jamespics006.jpg I thought I'd give more insight into what I did for the springover. The kit came from Rocky Road Offroad in Utah. they don't provide a mount that allows the use of the Wrangler sway bar disconnects, so I cut the mount from the original Wrangler spring plate, and welded it into the new one from Rocky Road. http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/jamespics005.jpg Here is another veiw, http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/jamespics004.jpg
One more modification I made was to cut the shock mount and move it outboard, here is a closeup of the mount, http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/jamespics003.jpg I had to do this because under full flex the shock tube would hit the spring. Here is a pic of the springover completed, http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/cherokeenut/jamespics002.jpg it's gone through a few trails and the heavy BII with Duff bumper and winch is weighing heavy on the stock YJ 5 leaf springs. Soon I hope to modify the spring mounts so that the Teraflex fiberglass front springs can be install and I can get 2" back into the front.
1800 Marines in one place means bad news for the enemy! I've been on one of those assault ships but let me tell you, as a Marine, our place is on the ground!
I saw the pics of the Marines being dropped in Kuwait (2200 by the way, not 1800 as I'd thought), it gave me a closer sense of what they had to do. Seeing there faces caused me to think of them more as "my" Marines, being that they are from my son's ship. I keep them in my prayers more so and hope they all return safe, I understand one has been lost but don't have the details as to what happened. I miss my son and can't wait to see that ship home soon! Thank you so very much for your service and your sacrifice to keep my family safe.
Hi I would like any info you can give as after blowing out 3 axles I want to convert to a solid axle.
Um, what do you need to know that is not in the previous post?
I'm sorry. I am very new to this internet information thing, I have seen your pics of your mods it looks great. My brother and I have a '90 and a '88 that we are doing on the cheap, thanks for your help I will be sure to visit your pics often for help.
Sounds great! If I can be of any help please ask.
Thought I'd give an update on a change we did. The OE Wrangler springs were taking a beating, and starting to sag under the heavier BII's front end. With the instalation of the Teraflex fiber leaves probably a year off, I took the main and secondary leaves from a donor set of factory YJ springs. I cut the eyes off the main leaf so that it will support the original main leaf under the eye. Then I put in a secondary leaf, triming the plastic retaining button of the original secondary leaf slider. This makes sure the leaf can slid well and not rest on the button. Now with 7 leaves in front instead of 5 the BII has a nice controlled movement on bumps. Before it felt firm in the rear with the Explorer leaves, but way to soft in front with the Wrangler springs. Steering is a bit crisper too and flex hasn't been hurt in the slightest. We'll be wheeling it next weekend and I'll see if the new spring pack retains it's height or if it begins to sag again. The true answer is the Teraflex leaves but that's for sometime in the future.
why did u use a d 30 and not a d 44?
Availability, wheel lug-pattern compatibility... its been discussed
Hmm, this never happened!
Jamie, maybe as the Moderator, you could do this?
Yea and i think some of the photos are gone now too
Nope, I checked all pic links, they all seem to work fine. If anyone has a problem with them let me know. By the way my son says the BII drives WAY better now, in fact we noticed that a pin for the sway bar disconnect was missing so the sway bar is disconnected, he never even noticed it.
Check post 14 the first two links are coming up with 404 errors "not found"
Yeah those aren't going to work, they are from our 4x4 group site and the web master deletes old pics after 2 years old. The links showing the conversion are controled by me though so they should stay ok.
Why are you waiting to install the fiberglass leaf springs?
And can you repost some pictures of your own jeep, i'd like to see it? The B2 looks like a lot of fun to wheel in.
I can repost some newer pics, but I've transfered all the parts from the white '91 XJ into my newer red '99 XJ, just got the lift in yesterday. We swapped the entire suspensions with axles, entire exhaust systems and both t-cases. Started at 8 in the morning and finished at 4:30, whew! I'm not in for that anytime soon for sure. As for the fiberglass leaves, my son is stationed on the Bonhomme Richard assault carrier out of SanDiego, he's not home hardly at all and doesn't want to install them till he gets out of the Navy in July '09. I know, it's a long time to wait, till then the 7 leaf springs actually seem to be working exceptionaly well. He may be interested in selling the leaves and sticking with the 7 leaf springs if anyone is interested, he'd sell them for way less then you can buy them currently.
Bii and XJ pics
Here are a couple of pics from last year at Lefthand canyon above Boulder CO,http://www.calvaryefree.org/4wheel/070310bonus/070310lefthand10.JPG
As you can see the BII flexes almost as well as my XJ.
your b2 made it into readers rigs in petersons didnt it?
Yup, the BII is in last summers, my XJ and my sons XJ are on the following page, it was cool to work with the editor on the pics too!
Well Spring is finally here and we had a chance to go on a moderate trip. Daniel was home on leave and it was time to flex the rebuilt front spring pack. Here is a youtube video of the BII flexing, I think you'll agree that mission is accomplished! Daniel's BII is a minute or so into the clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sshKYOoPs68 No ride height was lost and the springs sit right at where they did when installed, they work! By the way, those trees are very dead, that's the location of the Hayman fire, Colorado's worst and largest fire ever, 58,000 acres.
That is a sweet B2, I have an 88 and dana 30 im thinking of swapping in with a set of leafs from a wrangler. Looks like you have some good flex. Im new to forums so just gettn a few words out there, but really like your setup