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Can Front & Rear Climate Controls be Synced?

Discussion in '2017+ Sync 3 / In Vehicle Technology' started by random155, January 15, 2018.

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    1. random155

      random155 New Member

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      Just brought home a new 2018 XLT. I was wondering if there is any way to sync the front and rear seat climate without having to manually adjust the rear to match the front. Thanks in advance.
       
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      peterk9 Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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      Congratulations on the new XLT and welcome to the 5th gen. Forum. :wave:
      I'm guessing you are referring to the second row climate controls and not the seats?
      I haven't read the 2018 Owner's Manual that much to see what it says about that. Perhaps someone with a 2018 would know off-hand.
      You also need to update your profile if you no longer have the 2007. Thanks.

      Peter
       
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      Yes second row climate is what I'm referring to.
       
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      Only place I could find it in the online manual was page 444. Hope that helps. Still waiting for mine to arrive.
       
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      Yeah I saw that... doesnt look like it can be synced to the front seat climate. Thats a little annoying but oh well. Let me know if anyone finds something different.
       
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      I believe on my 2017 I can turn rear controls off and the rear heat/AC will follow front controls. Or maybe I remember that from my 2014, or maybe I remember that from my Saturn. Or maybe I'm just making up rememberies
       
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      I think it is a horrible design...the front and the rear have no communication between them. GM did it right where the adjustment of temperature is in relation to the temperature set in the front.

      If you have the temperature setting in "the middle", with no bias towards hot or cold, it only blows air at a temp "in the middle". So when you get in a hot car and the interior is very warm, if you don't turn down the temperature to the cold setting, it never blows AC in the back. Same thing with heat in the winter.
       
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      I guess there are 2 ways of looking at this. One is that the driver of front passenger controls the heating/cooling for the entire vehicle by having the system 'synced' or the rear passengers can chose their own heating/cooling settings. I think I'd prefer the latter. Being the only one in the vehicle 95% of the time the current set-up has never been an issue nor have I actually paid any attention to it.

      Peter
       
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      I just came from a GM vehicle. I only kept it 2 years before I had to ditch it. While the options are a cut above the explorer, the reliability was horrible. I'll take a few less options with my explorer before I ever go back to GM. I've had 3 GM'S and 3 Ford's, and can say the Ford's have outlasted the GMs in every way.
       
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      Then why default a sync between the front passengers...and not blow different temperatures unless the passenger wants it? Or what about when you have small children in the back, those that cannot adjust the temperature for themselves? What about when there is nobody in the back, and you could easily have it blowing warmer air than the front, putting more pressure on the system on the front system to keep cool?

      Honestly...how often do people mess with the climate settings in another persons car anyway, especially if the car is at a comfortable temperature? I know I hardly change the temp in my vehicle.

      Nothing wrong with giving rear passengers the ability to adjust the temperature, but it is silly to not have the two systems (front and rear) synced unless changed (in my opinion of course).
       
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      According to the Manual, you can control the rear settings from the front but I'm not sure if it applies only to the fan. As I mentioned, I have never played around with the controls since I almost never have any passengers. However they are set for the back, it has never been an issue in hot or cold weather. Maybe some time down the road I'll have a closer look. In any case, while it is a legitimate concern it doesn't seem to be a big issue since this is the only time it has been brought up in 7+ years.

      Rear fan speed control lock: When illuminated, you can only operate the rear
      passenger settings through the front controls.


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      You can control rear climate from the front, but can't sync it to front. So it it Need a to he turned up and down separately from front climate
       
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      If you turn rear off and turn back on it syncs to front. Which can be done in SYNC 3.
       
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      Not sure I am following you
       
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      Go into SYNC 3 and turn off rear system. Turn it back on and it will be synced with the drivers settings.
       
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      Your previous reply to random155 seemed quite clear to me. Not sure what's not to understand on EXSport 17's part.

      Peter
       
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      Its clear and seems easy but didn't work for me. I guess I should have asked, turn off complete climate system or just rear and then turn it back on?
       
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      I'll throw in my 2 cents on this issue. Although I have a '16, I totally understand the issue/question/topic. My only "passenger" in the back is my dog, Beasley, who goes almost everywhere with me. She is a totally pampered, spoiled, 65lb Aussie Shepard/Beagle mix (not that this has anything to do with anything - I just love my girl!). I have the back completely set up for her - all seats down, a custom-fit quilted pad with zippers that allow either of the 2nd row split seats to be up or down when needed, it covers from the hatch to the front of the (flat) 2nd row, AND she has a thick memory foam mattress to lay on. SPOILED!

      Getting back on topic, in AZ, it's very hot in the summer so, when the dog is in the car, I need the back blowing cold and strong for her, especially when I run into a store for a quick something and leave the car on (gotta disable that Double-Honk one day!). But when she's not in the car, I don't like listening to the blowers in back on High - so I'm constantly messing with the settings. It would certainly be easier to have the front and back in sync - but I can't, so I'm messing with the A/C buttons, accessing the "Rear" controls. Quite honestly, it's easier to simply reach back and manually turn the knobs for temp and blower settings when possible (her bed gets pushed up against the front seats a lot so I can't reach the controls so I usually have to use the Sync A/C controls, forcing me to take my eyes off the road. I wonder if it's Voice-Controllable at all - I've never tried that, although I find the voice commands to be most exasperating most of the times.
       
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      Ok, so I looked further into this. I guess I'm not understanding what the issue is. In SYNC 3, if you go to rear controls there is a plus/minus, hit the plus and it raises the temp(the temp is based on the driver setting is my understanding) hit the minus and it lowers the temp. If you leave it in the middle the temp is the same as the drivers. Or at least this is the way I understand that it works, but maybe I've confused this with MFT or the GM system.
       
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      This is from my owner's manual:
      "Rear fan speed control lock: When illuminated, you can only operate the rear passenger settings through the front controls."
      This specific control is in the rear climate control center.
       

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