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Convert V8 AWD to BW 4406 Manual Shift- A how to thread

Discussion in 'Offroad Drivelines' started by MountaineerGreen, September 17, 2006.

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      when in 2h you put it in park does the vehicle roll more than a couple of inches?
       
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      No, it didn't roll at all, I had it parked on completely flat ground, engine at idle.

      As soon as the TC was shifted into Neutral, the driveshaft on the trans would begin to spin, making any other shifts impossible. I have to shut the engine off in order to get out of Neutral with the TC.

      I havn't even bothered with it in a while, really havn't had the need. My PCM quit on me about a month ago, and I had noticed before, that my idle was kinda high. Maybe it was the high idle that would spin the trans output shaft? IDK

      edit: I may have interpreted your question wrong. Usually, with normal driving in 2H my vehicle does roll some when I shift it to park. I would guess about 6" or so, it is very noticeable.
       
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      One more AWD converted, got the BW4406 in tonight, and rear driveshaft in. One question though, how do you get the old Ujoint out to put in the conversion joint? Mine is stuck like no tomorrow. Anyways, off to the yard tomorrow to pickup the linkage. :)
       
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      on the front drive shaft? I didn't do mine own, I had a drive train shop put it together and balance it.
       
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      soak it in penetrating oil or ATF ,, not WD40.
       
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      Bigger hammer?


      Make sure ALL of the old clip was removed, sometimes the retaining clip breaks and leaves a little piece in the groove.
       
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      I used a bench vise.
      Large socket on one side to "catch" the protruding u-joint cap
      Smaller socket on the opposite side to "push" the u-joint through
       
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      Doing the swap this week
       
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      I've got a T.C out of a 2000 F-150 scoped out it's a manual out from behind a 4.6 asking if they have the manual linkage and front drive shaft waiting to hear price.What would be a fair amount to pay and is this compatible with the swap? THANX!
       
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      This thread still active?

      Is the O.S.S the same as the V.S.S? My 98 has nothing in the transfer case just a divot with a plug where the speedo gear or sensor would be.My O.S.S is in the transmission housing.I have a 97 4406 located with front drive shaft and linkages.I take it I don't need to worry about the sensor in the T.C with O.S.S in the tranny? THANX! :scratch:
       
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      Yes, you can use any of the models with or without a VSS or OSS. I have a 98 also and will use a TC that has the speed sensor, unused. I would like to have the little plug some day to fill the hole.

      BTW, our trucks stopped using the VSS in the trans/TC in 1998, the Expeditions(bigger trucks) changed in 1999. So those 1998 4406's will have the sensor in it.
       
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      Thank-you!

      I thank-you for your time and input! :D Also I've read this link many times and it is a 5.4 Expedition rear shaft & a F 150 4.6 front shaft CORRECT? THANX AGAIN!
       
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      Front shaft from a 4r70w f150 or expedition.

      And rear shaft from a 4r100 expedition.

      Its the transmissions that determines length of the shaft not the motor. The 4r70w is shorter in length then the 4r100. Its a false assumption that only the 4.6 trucks came with 4r70w and 5.4's only with the 4r100.
       
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      A+

      THANX 4 the info!
       
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      Still lookn

      Made the trip "2hr 1 way" and the T.C was electric :(.but the guy GAVE me the rear driveshaft its a double cardon and 45" from input shaft base to flange face for pinion flange.??? Too long:scratch:?
       
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      Ah, so they did mix the two trannies with the two motors.
       
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      I have not verified the 4r100 behind a 4.6L. But I have serviced many f150s with a 5.4L and a 4r70w. My moms 02 being one of them.
       
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      Thanks for all the info
       
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      A few pic of my progress
       
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      4406 4WD on bottom AWD on top

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      Where did you find the transfer case? I need to start looking for one.
       
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      Call up your local junk yard.
       
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      Joe, try this

      www.car-part.com

      Some of those salvage yards will ship.

      The shifter is the hard part to find, so be sure to ask for it when you talk to them.
       
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