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Dana 44 TTB outers on a Dana 35 TTB

Discussion in 'Offroad Drivelines' started by Trckmagik, March 1, 2004.

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    1. 410Fortune

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      Kris,

      I would like to see the size comparison of the D35 brake caliper compared to the D44 caliper.

      I have read that people with D44 front axles report lower braking ability with the stock master cylinder :)

      To finish off the new knuckles and larger brakes to get maximum performance maybe a full size master cylinder could be used.

      You can out me down for a set of those knuckles as soon as I get the $$$ for new wheels, 35's and rear axleshafts :)

      ALSO those are some DAMN sexy beams you got there! Nice to see them assembled! I want I want...
       
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    3. Kris Guilbeaux

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      I was thinking that it might just need an ajustment on the mastercylinder. I will be playing with that first. It I still get low performance I will try Installing a Full size mastercylinder. It should not effect the brake that bad as I rarely hear this from Soild Axle Explorers running simular size calipers.
       
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      Right I only see this kind of stuff on Pirate where 37-38" + tires are being run on a D44.....lacking braking performance, and also with Jeep brake systems........maybe the ford master has a better bore???
       
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      Dumb question: You can still run a 15" wheel with this cant you? I think the truck I pulled my axle from originally had 15's.

      Cant wait to see them on the truck. Looks great.
       
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      Yes you can run a 15" wheel I tested the New Wheel I have in my garage for my Green X and they are 15" wheels. It might be a while before it is all on the truck since My navajo is going to get painted the middle of the month and I am Working on the radius arm set up. And since I the Wheels a tire I chose cost a small fortune I am looking at the Begin of summer
       
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      That looks great. :thumbsup:

      I wouldn't be surprised if that does increase your track by 1" or so. I know that going from a D30 to a D44 knuckle, the ball joints are 5/8" further in on each side of the axle to match track widths.

      As for brakes. I haven't heard of an explorer having a problem with going to D44 brakes (whether cheby or ford). I have no problems, except for the crappy pads that came with my axle (granted I'm a 2nd gen). Not so sure about a BII Jamie. Or have you already upgraded the master cylinder to an Explorer part?
       
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      Jefe, I mave a 93 Explorer brake booster and a 95 Explorer disc brake master with new hard lines. :p
      With the D35 up front and the disc 8.8 in back the BII stops on a dime!

      Of course she needs a transmission before I can use those brakes! hahaha should be running this weekend........
       
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      Kris, are you doing the machining for the steering as well?
       
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      yes It will mount inplace of the Explorer knuckles and The steering will be reversed to mount on Top like the Explorer. so your Explorer tie rod will fit perfectly.
       
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      Kris, did you get my PM regarding motor?
       
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      I just replyed
       
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      why don't you guys modify the beams at the lower ball joint to correct for camber? It makes it so your front track width doesn't narrow as much, gives you better ground clearance, less work, etc...

      Just curious...
       
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      The Reason I did was because I wanted to modify the Beams as little as possible.

      Kris
       
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      It's actually less work to move the lower ball joint mount out a little to correct for camber than it is to cut and turn the beam. I have a set of beams modified this way and they look stock because there's so little work done.
      I'd post a pic, but I don't know how....I'll try to figure it out.
       
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      Kris pulling out the big guns! ;)
       
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      I didnt cut and turn my own beams. I had another member make them for me. I dont have welding skills of my own yet. :cool:
       
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      They're done, that's what really counts.

      Question: I've got a d44 ttb front end and a d35 in my garage. I've been measuring the 2 knuckles & the d44 knuckles are slightly larger everywhere. In particular, between the upper and lower ball joint. How did you make sure the axleshaft stayed straight when mounting up the d44 knuckles?

      By the way, thanks for posting your progress and all the info, I know a lot of people appreciate it.
       
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      Did this thread die?
       
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      No.... He will see it shortly. Kris.....
       
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      Thread is not dead just short of cash to finsh the swap. its still working along.



       
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      LOL, Kris. I think we can all relate to that! My project is at a stand still for the same reason....

      By the way, I was't bashing kris or anyone, I think what he's doing is great.
       
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      I didnt think any one was bashing

      I am short on Cash due to getting screwed on a Paint Job on my Navajo. The guy that painted my Truck made my truck look like total ... Ok any way you get the point. I am now at the point of taking the guy to court for $3000.00 that I paid a while back to have my truck painted. So I have to have the Truck painted or Rust will form in the spot that were not prepped right. So I have to find a way to get my truck painted. Even went court is said and done I might not clear enought to paint the truck right. I have worked very very hard on my navajo and Most of the guys here that have seen it know that. Its even worse cause I am having to replace some of the sheet metal on the Truck. The Front axle is done for the Most part I just cant afford to put the rest together. It will be soon though. I hope..
       
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      Kris who on this sight did you cut and turned beams. And how much do they cost?

      Ryan
       
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      Oh man here we go again...hahaha Brett builds the beams, Brett@explorerforum
       
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      What do you mean here we go again, obviously i didn't know or I wouldnt have asked. thats how you find things out here right, by asking

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