1. for access to reviews and discussion of the 2016 and 2017 Ford Explorer, Tech Tips, How to Articles, Off-Road Modification, Events, and more!

    Register Today It's free! This box will disappear once registered!

Engine clatter after oil change

Discussion in 'Stock 1995 - 2001 Explorers' started by singularity, June 8, 2009.

  • Searches ExplorerForum.com
    1. singularity

      singularity New Member

      Joined:
      November 16, 2007
      Messages:
      6
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Dallas, TX
      Year and Model:
      '98 Sport
      hey everyone, after a routine oil change today, I started to hear a clatter from the engine.. it initially sounded like the valvetrain but it gets louder towards the crankshaft region. It's the first time I have actually noted this kind of sound - my friend's Camry made the same sort of noise before the crankshaft bearings were busted.. which is why I'm a little paranoid. It's the second time I changed the oil myself.. did everything as before, I only changed the brand from Pennzoil to Mobil Clean 5000 (same grade 5W-30).. no leaks, oil pressure normal, oil is clear in the dip-stick.. I am at a complete loss as to what the cause is. Please Help!
       
    2. Support EF


      Join the Elite Explorers for $20 a year

      Explorer Forum has probably saved you that much already, and will continue to save you money as you learn how to diagnose and fix problems yourself, and learn which modifications work without having to experiment on your own. Elite Explorer members see practically no ads, add your own profile photo, upload photo attachments directly to your posts and Media Gallery, create more private Conversations, and more. Join Today. Your support is greatly appreciated.



      to hide adverts.
    3. Lacky01

      Lacky01 Active Member

      Joined:
      October 18, 2008
      Messages:
      756
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      16
      City, State:
      Eugene, Oregon
      Year and Model:
      1998 Sport
      subscribing

      mine also makes a "clatter" or a "clacking" sound, but only now and again. I'll pay attention to the circumstances surrounding the noise and try to locate the source.

      teamwork people!!!
       
    4. austinmob

      austinmob Member

      Joined:
      July 8, 2008
      Messages:
      94
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Sydney
      Year and Model:
      96 XLT
      Its not a chirp sort of sound is it.
       
    5. JDraper

      JDraper Somewhat Functional Moderator Emeritus

      Joined:
      January 11, 2001
      Messages:
      15,330
      Likes Received:
      1
      Trophy Points:
      58
      City, State:
      McVeytown, PA
      Year and Model:
      '11 XLT
      What filter are you using? Some of the filters on the market have poor or no anti-drainback valve, which can cause noise due to oil starvation on startup.
       
    6. singularity

      singularity New Member

      Joined:
      November 16, 2007
      Messages:
      6
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Dallas, TX
      Year and Model:
      '98 Sport
      Thanks for your responses everyone!

      No. it's more of a mechanical rattle.. sounds quite like a diesel engine.

      I am using a Super Tech ST8A oil filter. Used to have a Fram PH8A previously.

      Started the engine this morning.. didn't have the clatter for about 10 seconds. It is also most noticeable at idle.. I guess at open throttle the clatter is just covered up by the engine noise itself.
       
    7. patrick112390

      patrick112390 Active Member

      Joined:
      December 19, 2007
      Messages:
      691
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      chesterfield,va
      Year and Model:
      97' mountaineer 5.0 4406
      get yourself a real filter! supertech is what-walmart brand?? this is one of those things when you get what you pay for. the only filter i use is mobil 1 and motorcraft. both have the valves to eliminate dry starting..
       
    8. JDraper

      JDraper Somewhat Functional Moderator Emeritus

      Joined:
      January 11, 2001
      Messages:
      15,330
      Likes Received:
      1
      Trophy Points:
      58
      City, State:
      McVeytown, PA
      Year and Model:
      '11 XLT

      As said above, get a quality filter like Motorcraft. Fram are junk, and I don't think the Wal-Mart filter is anything special.
       
    9. patrick112390

      patrick112390 Active Member

      Joined:
      December 19, 2007
      Messages:
      691
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      chesterfield,va
      Year and Model:
      97' mountaineer 5.0 4406
      although if you are in walmart buying grocerys next time-WALMART SELLS MOTORCRAFT FILTERS! and correct me if im wrong bu the last time i was in there you could walk out with one for under 5 bucks...dont skimp on your investment ;):thumbsup:
       
    10. Tom G

      Tom G Active Member

      Joined:
      November 23, 1999
      Messages:
      138
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      16
      City, State:
      Lusby Md
      Year and Model:
      99 XLT V8
      Did you put oil in the filter before you installed it?
       
    11. CmdrPopNFresh

      CmdrPopNFresh Active Member

      Joined:
      November 10, 2008
      Messages:
      341
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Salt Lake City, Utah
      Year and Model:
      '93 Sport
      yeah a motorcraft filter at walmart is 3.50something. i would higly recommend taking that cheap filter you have off and sticking a quality motorcraft filter on there.
       
    12. singularity

      singularity New Member

      Joined:
      November 16, 2007
      Messages:
      6
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Dallas, TX
      Year and Model:
      '98 Sport
      hey everyone, thanks for all your input and I took your advice.. I changed the oil filter to a Motorcraft FL-1A but the clatter is still there at idle. Oil levels and pressure are normal. Talked to a few ppl I know.. they said it sounded like the push-rods or the valves themselves.. gonna take it for a run for a few miles this evening to see if it goes away.
       
    13. Joe Dirt

      Joe Dirt Explorer Addict

      Joined:
      October 4, 2007
      Messages:
      13,413
      Likes Received:
      2
      Trophy Points:
      0
      Year and Model:
      07 Camry
      Odd how things manage to go bad at the weirdest times- make you think things are related, when they may not be related at all... Let us know what you find out!

      I used to use SuperTech filters, when they first came out, they were much larger, and had a lot more media in them. They actually tested toward the top of the list on oil testing sites- but recently they just seem to be getting smaller, and I've gone back to Motorcraft filters.
       
    14. derek98explorer

      derek98explorer New Member

      Joined:
      May 15, 2009
      Messages:
      7
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Pitt Meadows B.C.
      Year and Model:
      1998 xl
      hey there i am new to the site. It seems to me that alot of us with the ohv engine have the same problem. Mine too has the clatter noise and it came after an oil change. The rig runs awsome does not miss a beat. I have been to three ford dealerships and none of there so called ford speciallists could tell me what it is or if they even experienced it with another customer. So why the same symptoms and surcomstances for all of us. These threads here about engine clatter,marble sounds,knocking after an oil change all seem to stop. Has anyone ever actually found out what causes it. This noise of a diesel engine is driving me crazy.
       
    15. Lacky01

      Lacky01 Active Member

      Joined:
      October 18, 2008
      Messages:
      756
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      16
      City, State:
      Eugene, Oregon
      Year and Model:
      1998 Sport
      welcome Derek!!!

      I've heard rumor of the OHV's making noise from a build-up of carbon? possibly?
      a quick Seafoam treatment should clear it up if that be the case...


      If my valvetrain is dying then theres only one direction I'm headed:


      Turbo diesel!!!! :cool:
       
    16. derek98explorer

      derek98explorer New Member

      Joined:
      May 15, 2009
      Messages:
      7
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Pitt Meadows B.C.
      Year and Model:
      1998 xl
      Where could I get seafoam? I live in canada british columbia and no parts stores have heard of seafoam I guess I could hop over the boarder to shucks and see if I could get it there in belingham.
       
    17. derek98explorer

      derek98explorer New Member

      Joined:
      May 15, 2009
      Messages:
      7
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Pitt Meadows B.C.
      Year and Model:
      1998 xl
      Also as to motorcraft being a quality filter. I cut one in half and it looks almost identical to a run of the mill fram. I didn't think that a quality filter would cost $3.50 at walmart.
       
    18. 71cutty455

      71cutty455 Active Member

      Joined:
      March 16, 2008
      Messages:
      152
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      16
      City, State:
      St. Louis, MO
      Year and Model:
      1998 XLT 5.0 V8 AWD
      I just paid $3.67 for my Motorcraft filter at Walmart 4 days ago. And thank God they dropped the price of Mobil 1 to $22 for a 5 qt jug!!!
       
    19. Danson

      Danson Active Member

      Joined:
      September 3, 2008
      Messages:
      144
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      London, Ontario
      Year and Model:
      2000 Limited
      timing chain and guides??
       
    20. Spdrcer34

      Spdrcer34 Well-Known Member

      Joined:
      March 14, 2002
      Messages:
      3,902
      Likes Received:
      2
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Bremerton, WA
      Year and Model:
      1992 Explorer XL
      I just picked up a jug on Mobil1 5W30 also...it said 26.00 on the shelf, but rang up at 22.00.

      I was happy!

      Ryan
       
    21. Spdrcer34

      Spdrcer34 Well-Known Member

      Joined:
      March 14, 2002
      Messages:
      3,902
      Likes Received:
      2
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Bremerton, WA
      Year and Model:
      1992 Explorer XL
      WalMart also carries SeaFoam....Bellingham or even Tulalip will have it..

      Ryan
       
    22. Lacky01

      Lacky01 Active Member

      Joined:
      October 18, 2008
      Messages:
      756
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      16
      City, State:
      Eugene, Oregon
      Year and Model:
      1998 Sport
      I have the OHV, so its definitely a valvetrain issue. I don't have timing chains :p:
       
    23. derek98explorer

      derek98explorer New Member

      Joined:
      May 15, 2009
      Messages:
      7
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Pitt Meadows B.C.
      Year and Model:
      1998 xl
      Last night I picked up a stethascope and went under the truck to investigate my diesel sounding clatter.I listened from top and bottom,with the stethascope it still sounded like it was more pronounced from the oil pan. I disconected one plug at a time and fired it up. Nothing changed so it is not bearings,piston slap,or valvetrain. By the way the ohv has a timing chain except only one thank god right in the front. I listened to the chain cover nothing,sounded smooth. There is another post here about a cracked flexplate aka flywheel and it clattered on him until he lost all drive in gears. So I will investigate more next is to pull the starter off and check to see if there is any play in the flexplate. Supposedly it is also common on the explorer. If any one else finds out or finaly your truck brakes down and you have to go to the mechanic and find out please continue to post with findings it sounds like it has hapened to alot of us. By the way mine is running awsome despite the sound.
       
    24. Jlaudio_explorer

      Jlaudio_explorer Member

      Joined:
      April 16, 2009
      Messages:
      63
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Bellflower, Illinois
      Year and Model:
      1993 4x4 xlt
      I have the same thing going on with my 93 Explorer and I'm almost positive its the main or rod bearings going bad. If it starts to get louder then stop driving it or you will throw a rod. If it stays the same it might not be a main or rod bearing and I would just keep driving it as is. I just stopped driving mine. I have too many money pits in the garage and driveway. It will be a few months before I fix it if I don't sell it first.
       
    25. derek98explorer

      derek98explorer New Member

      Joined:
      May 15, 2009
      Messages:
      7
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Pitt Meadows B.C.
      Year and Model:
      1998 xl
      Hey guys I finally found out the diesel sound,clatter,marbles in a can sound. Our ohv engines have only one chain in the front engine cover so thank god for that. The chain guide and chain tensioner are similar to that of the sohc engine. Except in our engine the tensioner is on one side and the guide guides the chain straight no tension is set on that side. So when the chain stretches like they will as they age it will slap around that untensioned side. No big deal you only have to worry about it when it gets very loud. The shop should only charge 6 hours labour and the whole chain kit is around $200 bucks. I am in Canada my mechanic charges $60/hour no tax so it cost me $530 cdn to do and the truck is finally quiet. I should mention that included front seal all fluids and best of all oil pan can stay in place.
       
    26. gijoecam

      gijoecam Village Idiot Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      May 31, 1999
      Messages:
      8,361
      Likes Received:
      1
      Trophy Points:
      48
      City, State:
      Trenton, MI
      Year and Model:
      98 ExSport, '00 F-150
      Glad to hear you got it fixed, but the numbers don't add up... 6 hrs @ $60/hr is $360, plus $200 in parts should add up to $560, not $530....

      Unless the math up there needs a conversion factor? ;)
       

    Share This Page








    We Support Our Troops!