Discussion in 'Stock 2011 - 2019 Ford Explorer Discussion' started by wilsor, August 29, 2011.
I forgot to mention that i do have a third party warranty from MajorGuard.
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The difference is that Corrosion destroys some metals like Iron while Oxidation prevents other metals like Aluminum from being destroyed.
I really like the idea!
We have to sell this innovation to Ford as a really cheap alternative for those who doesnt stand behind its products (like Ford)!
Another solution could be replacing Aluminum hoods with plastic ones as Ford can not treat Aluminum properly. Ooops, sorry, it may not work out because Ford cannot handle plastic too...
See post 660 above.
Like, you mean, no sarcasm allowed here as it "Serious Explorations"?
Of course the proposal will NOT fix the problem!!! But this is the main idea! Ford wanna go cheap, so lets help Ford not to fix the problem but just cover it!
Anybody having this issue with their 2016 or 2017? I'm planning on installing an aeroskin protector to our new 2017 Platinum right off the bat to avoid rock chips anyway. Is the problem possibly worse in areas that have snow/ice/salted roads by chance?
I don't think the weather etc. make a difference. Neither does it seem to matter of the vehicle is garaged or not. The issue seems to be with the hood in that particular front lip area. The mystery seems to be why only some hoods seem to be experiencing this. Going back trough the last 4 pages there are no complaints from any 2016+ owners.
It will be interesting to see if that will change.
My 2011 Explorer's hood has had minor bubbling since I purchased it used in 2013. I assumed the dealership sloppily repaired a chip or two. Throughout the years the bubbling areas have gotten larger and increased in numbers alerting me to the fact I was incorrect in my assumption. My neighbor, a Ford Fanatic, recently told me this is a problem with the Explorer. The way the hood is designed holds the moisture in thus causing corrosion UNDER the paint. My paint has graduated from bubbling to cracking and now chipping. My Explorer has over 121,000 and obviously is out of warranty but as a consumer you would like to think since this is a known problem, Ford would fix this issue on current vehicles as well as redesign this flaw on newer vehicles. The paint is only the tip of the iceberg and as much as I love the look of the Explorer, I can't say that I will ever purchase another one. I have had too many problems with my particular Explorer.
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I don't know if I agree with your neighbour but I also can't disprove his theory. There are many Explorers out there that don't seem to have the issue. My 2011 did not. I think it is likely due to the processing/finishing procedure of some of the aluminum hoods. In any case it is a problem for many owners but don't expect the manufacturer to pay for any repairs.
First post here in the forum..
I have been driving a new 2017 platinum, and after the first few days I can see why they have problems.
There seems to be a lot of "flex" in the hood while driving at highway speeds.. for the first 5 days I swear the hood
was unlatched.. (but it wasn't.. checked it many times).. the transition from the thiner flexing area, and the thinker "frame" of the hood
would be near the front, and the most likely point of stress on the paint. prime place to start peeling.
I ended up getting the 3M guard on the hood as I've had great results on previous vehicles (before I even knew about the issue on the explorers)
I guess we will see if it holds up..
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I have noticed some very slight vibration in the hood when travelling into a strong wind. Never noticed it on my 2011. In any case the problem is with corrosion under the paint causing bubbles/blisters that eventually begin to peel. The issue isn't paint cracking that is causing the corrosion. I don't know if that 3M guard wraps around and under the lip but going from all the posts here, it will not prevent the issue if the same problem still exists with the 2016/17 aluminum hoods. Basically the issue is from the inside out and not from the outside in.
My hood does have a little flutter on the highway as well. I wonder how well that weatherstrip underneath the hood seals. Not very surprising though. My Mustang had so much worse of a hood flutter. No worries as long as it's latched. The OEM latch is designed well.
We really should start seeing this hood paint issue clear up since they figured out what the issue was. Not really sure if it's been said here but the issue was cross contamination when sanding with the same sandpaper on steel AND aluminum body panels.
In a word. Oxidation.
I just picked up my 2013 ruby red explorer from the dealer.4years old with 15000 miles.
They had it for 3 days to repair the paint bubbles on the hood.
The estimate was $900.00 but they or Ford picked up half of it.
The hood looks great and the paint matches perfectly.
I think I made out better then some and not as well as others.
But it's better than nothing
Not a bad idea to keep an eye on it over the years as some have had the bubbling start again after having it repaired.
I would imagine if they prep'd it enough they could get it right. However, I wonder if the issue is only remedied with a new hood after being contaminated.
I just purchased a 2015 Explorer XLT with 21160 miles, listed as CPO by the dealer, who is located @ 100 miles form my home.
Unfortunately, since this is my first Ford purchase, I did not know of the hood corrosion issue before I looked at the vehicle. The sky was heavy overcast when I looked at the vehicle and I did not notice the areas of corrosion under the paint along the hood edge. After two days, I saw the corrosion while the vehicle was parked in the open and had direct sunlight.
The largest area is @ 4.25" in length and is over 1/4" wide above the bottom edge of the hood. This entire area of paint is ready to flake off if a little pressure is applied.
I know the sales game, but I am disappointed that the dealer had the vehicle in their possession for over 4 months and it "passed" the CPO inspection. I have contacted the seller to express my disappointment.
I am going to a local dealer and I hope this will be covered under the 3yr/36K warranty.
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I don't know if paint is one of the CPO inspection points or not but don't forget the inspection was likely carried out 4 months ago and the bubbling may not have been as bad at that time or missed. Who knows. Anyway, have a look at this link; http://www.explorerforum.com/xenfor...explorer-tsbs-ssms.343204/page-2#post-3544247
Thanks - I looked at the TSB yesterday. I spoke with the dealer today and received profuse apologies, with assurances that they will cover the repair under warranty and give a loaner vehicle during the repair.
Also, the Body Shop manager said that he was aware of replacement hoods exhibiting the same corrosion after some time, so it sounds like a crap shoot.
Update: The dealer's body shop made the repairs to the hood. All of the corrosion that was visible on the front and under the lip of the hood is no longer apparent, and the repair is not noticeable. Also, the body shop got a good color match. The dealer also provided a loaner vehicle while the Explorer was in for the repair.
This is how my hood looks after 3 years. Dealership has said they will try to help out with the cost of repainting but Ford is silent. I guess this is how Ford thinks paint should work.
Is anyone else having similar issues?
Dealer says it is a common problem.
I made the mistake of driving the car too far in too short a time.
My tires lasted longer than my paint job.
28 pages of discussion going on below.
Unless I'm reading things wrong, the OP posted in the hood paint issue thread and then created this thread.
Mods, please delete this thread?
Just to contribute to this pointless thread(sorry for venting), I have no issues with hood paint on my 3+ year old Explorer.