1. for access to reviews and discussion of the 2016 and 2017 Ford Explorer, Tech Tips, How to Articles, Off-Road Modification, Events, and more!

    Register Today It's free! This box will disappear once registered!

I pick up my New project in an hour

Discussion in 'Offroad Explorer - Ranger Projects' started by Kris Guilbeaux, September 7, 2001.

  • Searches ExplorerForum.com
    1. Kris Guilbeaux

      Kris Guilbeaux Elite Demon Secretary Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 12, 1999
      Messages:
      4,204
      Likes Received:
      3
      Trophy Points:
      48
      City, State:
      Austin,Tx
      Year and Model:
      92 Nav, 99 Mounty, 98 Ex
      That is Right I pick up my 97 Explorer 5.0 motor in one hour... They are cutting the rest of it out right now.

      I am So happy.
       
    2. Support EF


      Join the Elite Explorers for $20 a year

      Explorer Forum has probably saved you that much already, and will continue to save you money as you learn how to diagnose and fix problems yourself, and learn which modifications work without having to experiment on your own. Elite Explorer members see practically no ads, add your own profile photo, upload photo attachments directly to your posts and Media Gallery, create more private Conversations, and more. Join Today. Your support is greatly appreciated.



      to hide adverts.
    3. jimbo74

      jimbo74 Elite Ranger

      Joined:
      December 27, 2000
      Messages:
      18,444
      Likes Received:
      1
      Trophy Points:
      58
      City, State:
      Nor*Cal
      Year and Model:
      98 XLT Supercab 4x2
      are you doing a 302 swap?
       
    4. Kris Guilbeaux

      Kris Guilbeaux Elite Demon Secretary Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 12, 1999
      Messages:
      4,204
      Likes Received:
      3
      Trophy Points:
      48
      City, State:
      Austin,Tx
      Year and Model:
      92 Nav, 99 Mounty, 98 Ex
      That is the Plan at least.
       
    5. Alec

      Alec Elite Moderator Moderator Emeritus

      Joined:
      April 25, 2000
      Messages:
      15,997
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Houston, Texas
      Year and Model:
      2008 JK
      Hmmm, How many trips does this mean I'll be making to Victoria?

      Kris, what are your hp and torque goals after the swap and buildup?
       
    6. Kris Guilbeaux

      Kris Guilbeaux Elite Demon Secretary Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 12, 1999
      Messages:
      4,204
      Likes Received:
      3
      Trophy Points:
      48
      City, State:
      Austin,Tx
      Year and Model:
      92 Nav, 99 Mounty, 98 Ex
      I hope you wont have to make any trips. I hope to have some one experinced with swaps do this for me. As Far as Hp and torque I am Not sure what I will be getting out of this one.
       
    7. Randall

      Randall Demon4x4 Member

      Joined:
      March 29, 2000
      Messages:
      1,286
      Likes Received:
      1
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Mo. City, TX
      Year and Model:
      1991 Demon Edition
      What tranny are you going to mate it to?
       
    8. Kris Guilbeaux

      Kris Guilbeaux Elite Demon Secretary Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 12, 1999
      Messages:
      4,204
      Likes Received:
      3
      Trophy Points:
      48
      City, State:
      Austin,Tx
      Year and Model:
      92 Nav, 99 Mounty, 98 Ex
      That depends on Cost... If I want to go Cheap I will go T-5 if I want Expensive I will go NV4500...
       
    9. RFR2212

      RFR2212 Typing Police Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      April 10, 2000
      Messages:
      5,325
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      In the mug by Chitown
      Year and Model:
      95 JEEP Wrangler
      Do it right the first time....... NV4500
      Pete
       
    10. ok89

      ok89 Well-Known Member

      Joined:
      June 11, 2001
      Messages:
      2,062
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      College Station, TX (school) / Houston, TX (Home)
      Year and Model:
      02 Wrangler X
      so you start out with a 2wd navajo with a v8 and end up with a v8 4x4?!?!?!?

      Thats alot of conversions
       
    11. Randall

      Randall Demon4x4 Member

      Joined:
      March 29, 2000
      Messages:
      1,286
      Likes Received:
      1
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Mo. City, TX
      Year and Model:
      1991 Demon Edition
      and he plans on an Atlas II and a solid axle. You go boy!
       
    12. KEbert

      KEbert Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      April 24, 2001
      Messages:
      982
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      California
      Year and Model:
      '91 XLT
      I have to know about the manual transfer case. I would really like to get one since I hate trusting a button for my four wheel drive.
       
    13. Guy Groves

      Guy Groves Active Member

      Joined:
      February 13, 1999
      Messages:
      127
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Evergreen, Colorado
      Year and Model:
      92 XLT 4x4
      So what's you plan? I too am considering a 5.0 out of an Explorer for the swap. I almost had one but did't act fast enough ... it's gone.

      I am considering puttin Edelbrock aluminum heads on it for the extra ponies and the weight loss.

      I agree, the tranny solution is not an easy one. The NV4500 is nice, probably over kill however, and it weighs a lot. Who has done this and how does it fit?

      I am considering a transmission from a full size Bronco or F-150 - They used yet another Mazda tranny - M5R2. Morte heavy duty than our M5R1, but still not great. I hope it is the better compromise.

      I have a love / hate relationship with the T5 - love to drive it, hate the repairs required. The linkage is the weak link. Talk to local tranny shops and see what they say - Shops that offer more than a 90 day warrenty typically don't like them.

      The Kaufmann web site is down so you must call them. They have just joined up with the company that builds their exhaust systems. I have talked with them several times, but have not been able to get good knowledgable answers.

      Don't tell L and L you are doing the swap in an Explorer. They arn't interested.

      Has anyone used Total Performance swap parts?
       
    14. Kris Guilbeaux

      Kris Guilbeaux Elite Demon Secretary Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 12, 1999
      Messages:
      4,204
      Likes Received:
      3
      Trophy Points:
      48
      City, State:
      Austin,Tx
      Year and Model:
      92 Nav, 99 Mounty, 98 Ex
      Guy,

      I like the Explorer Engine for a couple of Reasons first off the upper intake has a bend that helps get around the heater box. Next the Gt 40 style Heads and intake. Also the Mech. fan. The fuel rails connect on the Driver side.

      Thanks For the Heads up on the M5R2.
       
    15. Sandy

      Sandy Well-Known Member

      Joined:
      March 4, 1999
      Messages:
      1,411
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Boston Area
      Year and Model:
      2003 Ranger Edge
      Whats up?

      How is the project going ?
       
    16. Kris Guilbeaux

      Kris Guilbeaux Elite Demon Secretary Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 12, 1999
      Messages:
      4,204
      Likes Received:
      3
      Trophy Points:
      48
      City, State:
      Austin,Tx
      Year and Model:
      92 Nav, 99 Mounty, 98 Ex
      Right now I am cleaning up and painting the Engine. I will be looking in to buying parts to make this Engine install go quickly. I want to have a very short down time so buying as many parts as I can before taking the truck down.
       
    17. Sandy

      Sandy Well-Known Member

      Joined:
      March 4, 1999
      Messages:
      1,411
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Boston Area
      Year and Model:
      2003 Ranger Edge
      Sound like a good idea.

      Keep in touch.
       
    18. Kris Guilbeaux

      Kris Guilbeaux Elite Demon Secretary Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 12, 1999
      Messages:
      4,204
      Likes Received:
      3
      Trophy Points:
      48
      City, State:
      Austin,Tx
      Year and Model:
      92 Nav, 99 Mounty, 98 Ex
      As I have been pulling parts off this Motor I have found that the Motor has to have Low Mileage. That why I got a good Deal on it (unknown mileage) Any why the Inside of the motor is Clean the injectors look new and the Spark plug are the orignals and Look new.

      I have found some Problems with Using an Explorer motor instead of the Mustang Motor. The Explorer motor will fit in the Explorer easier than the Mustang Motor with the Shorter front Dress with and run the Clutch Fan. and Fuel rail that will be easier to use. But there are a few thing that I have found to be a problem. The Wiring for an Explorer 5.0 will not mate with the 91-94 Explorers. What I and going to do is Use a Mustang Harness and a Saleen Custom Made Computer on the Explorer motor.
       
    19. RFR2212

      RFR2212 Typing Police Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      April 10, 2000
      Messages:
      5,325
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      In the mug by Chitown
      Year and Model:
      95 JEEP Wrangler
      Awesome Kris!

      Definately sounds like a plan. Good to know you have direction in this, cause ya certainly need it! Now, I'm not sure about the X fuel lines on the V-8, but I have found that all the lines on my X and from the stang motor are all -5AN, which none of the swap manuals expained the best. Just a lil thought to toss in!
      Pete
       
    20. Guy Groves

      Guy Groves Active Member

      Joined:
      February 13, 1999
      Messages:
      127
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Evergreen, Colorado
      Year and Model:
      92 XLT 4x4
      Sounds like a plan to me.... Using the Explorer 5.0 and an alternate 89 - 93 mustang wire harness & computer is attractive, but have not found out about some of the details yet. So what have you learned?

      1) I am told you can swap out the stock EEC V system for the earlier EEC IV system. What needs to be changed?

      2) The Explorer 5.0 has DIS ignition. You will need to change the ignition system back to the 89 - 93 style distributor type ignition (non DIS).

      3) What needs to be changed with the fuel injection system, if anything? (Again EEC V changed back to EEC IV) Are the fuel rails, regulator, injectors the same? Are the voltage levels used for the injectors the same?

      4) Why the Saleen computer? Why not the Ford A9L computer (93 mustang / FMS computer option)? What customization is being done and do you have Saleens phone number. I get no response from their website.
       
    21. Brett

      Brett Moderator Emeritus

      Joined:
      April 21, 1999
      Messages:
      1,167
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      46
      City, State:
      Littleton, CO
      Year and Model:
      94 Explorer Sport
      Just wanted to subscribe to this thread.

      Keep it simple Kris. The Mustang main harness is much eaiser to deal with than the Explorer main harness. Although the Explorer harness can be used, the mustang harness will save time and money.
       
    22. Kris Guilbeaux

      Kris Guilbeaux Elite Demon Secretary Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 12, 1999
      Messages:
      4,204
      Likes Received:
      3
      Trophy Points:
      48
      City, State:
      Austin,Tx
      Year and Model:
      92 Nav, 99 Mounty, 98 Ex
      well I am Getting a Stock mustang Computer now cause I got a good Deal on the Complete set up.

      The only thing that I see that need to be chaged on the Between the Systems is the Distributor. The injectors Seem to be the same. Most Injectors that I have seen are listed as 89-98 injectors. The Different in the fuel rail is the Explorer one connects on the driver side the mustang one connect on passanger side leading to less troubles.
       
    23. Guy Groves

      Guy Groves Active Member

      Joined:
      February 13, 1999
      Messages:
      127
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Evergreen, Colorado
      Year and Model:
      92 XLT 4x4
      Where did you get a deal. Is the wire harness new or used? Let us know how it goes.

      I'm a bit scared to use a used wire harness. It takes a lot of time to check out where everything goes and do a proper continuity check, so I plan on going with new harnesses from FMS. A used computer should be OK, they can be tested easily by a shop.

      I was looking at the MSD site today. They have a nice billet distributor for 93 stang. They are high cost at $250. You should be able to get a good one from the junk yard for cheap.


      What motor mounts and headers are you going with?
       
    24. Brett

      Brett Moderator Emeritus

      Joined:
      April 21, 1999
      Messages:
      1,167
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      46
      City, State:
      Littleton, CO
      Year and Model:
      94 Explorer Sport
      Hey Guy,

      I can do the wiring for you when you are ready for the swap. Even if you get a FMS wiring harness, you still need to make it work with the truck. There is no getting around the wiring. It IS the hardest part of any swap. I'm doing GoFast's wiring right now.
       
    25. Guy Groves

      Guy Groves Active Member

      Joined:
      February 13, 1999
      Messages:
      127
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      0
      City, State:
      Evergreen, Colorado
      Year and Model:
      92 XLT 4x4
      Hay Bret, That would be great.

      Could you just provide the details as to what modifications you had to make. There should only have been about a dozen wires to jump. I would really appreciate it.

      I was planning on going through the wire diagrams and tracing things out this past week. Unfortunately I got stuck in the NYC area and couldn't get a flight home until yesterday. To top it off I had to fly from Newark to San Francisco, then back to Colorado.
       
    26. mattadams

      mattadams Tall Man Little Escape Moderator Emeritus

      Joined:
      September 17, 1999
      Messages:
      8,169
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      46
      City, State:
      Longmont, CO
      Year and Model:
      2010 Escape XLT
      Guy, did I see you on wb2 news last night?
       

    Share This Page








    We Support Our Troops!