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    1. John_Rock

      John_Rock Elite In Memoriam

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      I just read the directions again for the Limit Straps.

      I was measuring from the factory hole I saw in the diagram.
       

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      mine are exactly as per diagram, but in the morning in the light i will measure the strap,
       
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      I definitely never had the problem of the driver's side inner CV axle pulling apart until I installed the Superlift.
       
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      i saw a thread by Mountaineergreen about this same thing, he had a bent bracket, so next weekend i am going to check all of my brackets.
      it seems one of them was affecting the diff placement, moving it to the passenger side a bit,, ,
       
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      I just found his post showing the bent bracket.

      http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1678455&postcount=55
       
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      how about this placement, , sure looks off to me,
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      now i know why the drivers side let go,, it has to be almost 3/4 of an inch to the passenger side,
       
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      Mine looks to be in the same position....

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      than it has to be a Superlift mistake,or yours is bent too , the bolt holes should be under each other in line , to keep the diff centered,,
       
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      Yeah but why does the axle need to be centered? I mean I dont see anything drivetrain related (axle shafts, etc..) thats being stressed. The CV shafts slip in and out (not fixed) of the spider gears so that's free to move (which is what its supposed to do since the IFS suspension patch of travel is an arc).
       
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      Iz,
      If the differential is not cantered it means one side is closer to the outside lip of the inner cv joint than the other is,and also that much closer to coming apart when the suspension droops and the outer which is not made the same way as it is fixed pulls out when drooping.
      I know the suspension is in an arc , but with a SLA suspension system it is not a perfect arc and at full droop it pulls apart the inner ,or pulls it far enough out to cause it to get near the edge which is weaker and breaks,,
       
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      But I though you were breaking the CV assembly, not the splined part that engages the differential. IMO, the only way you can destroy a CV, besides over-torquing, is to pull it apart (which can't happen in this situation since its allowed to slide in/out of the differential), or use it beyond its operating angle (which is what's probably happening).
       
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      Maybe shorten your limit straps by bolting up higher, or bolting farther out on the LCA.

      Your straps may have stretched also, causing more droop.

      I can recall Mountaineergreen & Turdle, also ran the limit straps according to Stuperlifts specs (inline with the swaybar links), and they went thru a few dr side C/V axles also. Seems to me, the straps are too long for that location.
       
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      Yep, I put my driver's side strap on today. And it definitely stretched/settled in and I'm sure it will give more and I may pop another driver's side CV if I don't get the axle to stay in the center. Superlift said the straps were 19.5". I didn't measure them, but maybe we need 18" or 17" straps.
       
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      Currently I'm struggling with replacing body bushings in the dark. Yippee!

      And in the morning I will have to find replacement body bushing bolts since I had to cut off the old ones. :D
       
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      Evan never did have the straps-but I did. However I am convinced the bent diff bracket is the cause for the cv's breaking, because after Evan straightened that bracket, he never broke a cv.

      I bet I bent it again in colorado the day I went down the ATV trail and broke 2 of em. And if you think about it, the passenger side must be stuffed and making a racket ---the cv is being "overshoved" into that side.

      Even though the axles are "allowed" to slip doesn't mean they do. When I removed the broken ones the stubs were still "locked in" by the inner plastic ring and needed to be pried out.

      Pete, was your broken stub locked in or did it slip out easily?
       
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      My inner was still locked in by the ring and had to be pried out.
      It seems like it slipped out and when it did it broke off one of the bearings of the three.and would not slip back in again/
      I am in the process of designing a bracket for the other side to keep it all straight when i take off the diff bracket and straighten it, and put it back on.
      i have access to a press so fixing that bracket will be easy, maybe even see if it can be braced with a gusset
       
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      So last night I changed out the side mirror on the driver's door. Then I try to start her. Nada, nothing! Just blinking lights and chimes. I was hoping it's just a dead battery even though its not acting like it should when it is a dead battery. I leave it alone and I go put my jump box to charge inside the house. I move on to other things and then go to bed.

      I get up this morning and try the jump box. Wala, nada, zipp~! Still nothing. I swap in the battery from my 2000 Limited. Still nothing. Dammit! It must be the alarm system malfunctioning. :shoot::banghead:

      So I pull the lower dash apart...

      [​IMG]
       
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      What a cluster ####. I think I had that shit installed back in 2002 or 2003. And it took the guy days to do it.

      I'm going crazy. After doing all the other work to the truck to get her ready for a trip and then to have this mess.

      Well, I had one good sneaking suspicion as to the culprit to the problem. When I had the cluster #### of an alarm system installed I had him install an option for the remote start. And it was actually an electronic solution. Not the strap an extra key to the column remote start solutions. I figure that key transponder circuit was malfunctioning. So I removed it from the system and spliced back the wire it had interrupted in the system. She is now starting again. :thumbsup:

      Someday I want to remove the rest of that alarm crap.
       
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      Are you gonna be making Truckhaven now? If so, that's a big:D
       
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      techieman33[06:24pm] : hows the bracket problem going?
      Corkey[06:25pm] : it\'s not bent after all,
      Corkey[06:25pm] : the locating bracket on the one side is not long enough,
      cybergasm[06:25pm] : Hi Pete
      Corkey[06:25pm] : hey Dave
      techieman33[06:25pm] : oh
      Corkey[06:26pm] : on the passenger side there is a bracket from the frame to the diff mount,i took it off, and had a [* censored *] of a time getting it back on,
      techieman33[06:27pm] : lol
      Corkey[06:27pm] : when i did get it back on the diff was off to the passenger side 3/4 of an inch,
      techieman33[06:27pm] : those kits don\'t fit so well
      Corkey[06:27pm] : it\'s all Superlifts fault,
       
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      If nothing else goes wrong. :p:
       
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      ...Are you on your way yet???...:bounce:
       
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      Where??
       
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      ... Truckhaven silly....:confused:
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