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leak in drain line for sunroof

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    1. furshore

      furshore New Member

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      I have a 2002 with a factory sunroof. I noticed that I have wet carpet on the passenger side under the floor mat after a hard rain. I looked everywhere, but I have discovered the problem but I don't know how to fix it. It is the front drain line. When I pour water down the drain line on the sunroof it comes out the drain in the panel next to the door hinge, but it also drains inside the car. Any solutions? Should I just plug the hole and hope that any water finds another exit?
       
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      I had a water leak from my factory sunroof when the truck was aprked with the nose lower than the rear. I discovered the front tubes (hoses) were clogged. DON'T try to blow them clear with compressed air...tired that and blew the hose off...doh. Had to tak the headliner loose to reattach the tube. (actually was not as difficult as I feared).
       
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      I don't think it is a loose hose. I very carefully poured water down just the front right sunroof drain line. When I did this the water came out the drain in the right front panel as it should, but it also came out in the wall close to the door hinge on the inside of the cabin...thus the water in the passenger side carpet. I just don't know where the drain tube is leaking but it is not real high because no water marks in headliner or window pillar.
       
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      I deleted your other post. Please do not double post

      -Drew
       
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      sorry...I noticed that I posted in the wrong spot. I will be more careful in the future
       
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      Just picked up a 2003 Mountaineer and my driver's side door from the door handle down on the inside was wet. Water was slightly pooled in the trash compartment. Would it be reasonable to assume that this problem is related to yours? We had a lot of wind today with a slight rain...Just trying to figure how the heck the water got there!

      Well, my headliner is soaked...Gotta be a sunroof leak. *sighs*
       
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      Ok...So, I went outside with some compressed air, stuck the little red tube into the drain hole and pulled the trigger...And, nothing. Didn't sound like anything was happening at all. Typically the can will get colder when it lets air out, but it is already frigid outside so it's hard to tell whether it was blowing or not.

      What's the cost/procedure to replace the drain line if it is clogged? I'm guessing Lowes doesn't have a pipe snake that small. ;)
       
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      I just bought my XLT this month, and I've noticed that I believe I have this same problem too. When I park facing down my driveway, i'll notice a bit of water in the dome light and sometimes a small drip which hits my cupholders.. I think it even got in the compass behind the rearview mirror..

      I think I know where you're all referring to, but just for some clarification the drain line is located towards the front of the sunroof when its open in the middle correct? that metal opening right there? how hard exactly is it to get the headliner off - does it kind of snap out? I'll probably just try it real quick this weekend, but wanted to see if there was anything i should know before i do. Thanks!
       
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      I think that original person was using compressed air from an air compressor.

      I used a can of compressed air that you'd use to dust off a computer, etc. I stuck the tube for the can of air into the tube for the drain and let her rip. Did the trick, I haven't had leaks since. I just opened my roof and on the inside of the lip there were two drain hoses on each side towards the front. Not sure if yours would have just one middle drain...
       
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      yeah you're right they are on the side. i was looking towards the middle but it wasn't a hole there - just like 2 slits but it was too low down.. not in the water channel. i guess i was looking there b/c i was getting the water in the middle in the dome light. i guess if they're clogged though even on the side, the water just pools there and can go down there anyway? hmm maybe i should look at the windshield just in case too...
       
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      OK, so what do we do to fix the leaks? Do we need to get a new gasket and replace it? I've done the compressed air thing, and it still leaks, and "gurgles" when we start driving - - then you get soaked if you don't hold a towel up to the front interior dome lights....
       
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      anyone figure out a fix for this? im getting water in floor board on passenger side.

      mine however seems to accumulate in the passenger side rocker panel and then when i stop at a sign or lights comes up from the rocker and comes out the molding near the gas cut off switch. under the glove box.
       
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      Hi,

      Someone fixed this problem ?

      I think we need to see the roof downside ? How I can take off the fabric ?

      Or this is not a problem, and yes a chracteristics ?

      Just don't park downways ?

      Du.
       
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      Does anyone have an answer for this problem or it need to go to a " thieves bunch" Ford dealer for suck you off thousands of $$$$ with no guarantee that the problem will be resolved?????
       
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      I just did mine, my passenger side seat got wet and some of the floor also. I could see the headliner wet running to the passenger windshield pillar. I just used a piece of bailing wire on mine. There was a bug in front of it.

      On the drivers side I pushed the wire in the hole easy and it drained right away.
       
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      Sun roof drain leak

      My leak was caused by mice that had crawled in on top of the headliner and chewed through the tube. Entire inside had to be removed to repair all the damage. Thankfully it was covered by insurance. I plan on spray foaming the area behind the tail lights to stop their entry.
       
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      Are there any pics here in the forum of where the drain tubes are when disassembled? I tried the air in a can and the side I had the issues with, seems to have gotten worse. Is it hard to take the headliner off and put back together? Ay info is very much appreciated. Any other issues I've had were fixed, thanks to this forum!
       
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      I tried the compressed air again and when I pulled the trigger, there was water spraying out the front drivers pillar/post that holds the windshield in place. Was that supposed to happen? Sound familiar to anyone?
       
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      Hi, everibody
      After months of estimates by " experts???" including ford service and asked for not less of $ 510.00 for just the new sunroof glass (cause they don't sell just the gasket), and followed all the online suggestion like blowing air in the water drain with no success, I did it myself and in one hour I have resolved the problem.It does not mean is the same for everybody, but I tell you what I did:
      I tried to have a view of the headliner of the draininig ( wich is on the front
      corner of the sunroof : you can see it when you open it. Right and left: my problem was on the right side) to do that you have to dissemble the cover column of the windshield,dissemble the wisor and pry the upholstered ceiling for about 20 inches toward the back.At that point I was surprised to see that the plastic drain hose was far apart from the rigid head liner . I cleaned with alchool the inside of the plastic hose and , putting a couple of drops of fast glue I pushed in the hose in the head liner. Close up everything, and I had no problem since. I hope this can help many of you!!!
      Bytheway it is not the gasket problem: when it rain some water go thru but that is the reason to have the drain hoses.
       
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      Here is what a first gen sunroof looks like guys. The headliner is not that hard to remove. I had to R&R my sunroof to replace the butyl tape sealant between the sunroof and the roof. It had been leaking for some time.
       

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      The headliner is not that hard to remove, but is that because you have a new one to replace it with and do not have to be careful in removing and is it hard to put back in place afterwards?

      I see the channels running down the pilars and a rubber tube as well. Which is the actual drain? Is the windshield pillar cut away or solid all the way down? Like I said above, when I blew air through from up above, I got a spray out of the side of the pillar, against the windshield. I'm just going to have to pull it all apart this weekend and see what I have going on. I'm tired of getting soaked stopping at red lights.

      Outstanding pic btw!!!
       
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      The headliner is held up by the sun visors (and overhead console if you have one), grab handles above the doors, sunroof trim/rubber, dome lights, coat hangers in the back seats, some push in plastic christmas-tree fasteners, and the plastic A, B, C and D pillar covers. The plastic panels around the rear side windows I refer to as the D pillar covers... You do have to remove the seatbelt shoulder strap anchor bolts (front and back seats) and they are Torx, can't remember the size, T50 maybe? I have been known to use Vicegrips... yeah, I know, crude. Works though.

      I would imagine that if you are getting water spraying out there that your drain line is unhooked. The A pillar is enclosed all the way down.

      You should be able to remove the visors etc etc from the driver's side front corner of the headliner and gently pry/let it hang and get that drain line back on. I would glue it or clamp it on though. If it came off once, it may do it again.

      I reused my old headliner, no reason to replace it. You can get new fabric from autoglass suppliers/shops and replace it if necessary. I've done it before.

      I forgot I took the picture it until it popped up on my screen saver the other night.

      Let us know how you make out.
       
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      I'm sure my drain line is disconnected on my passenger side. It drains well when I pour water in the channel. But it also drains inside the vehicle as well as outside the vehicle.

      Can anyone possibly give me a step by step on removing the headliner to fix the problem?

      I cant afford to take it to a shop and I am not that mechanically inclined.

      2002 Explorer XLT

      Thanks
       
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      OK, I know it's been awhile, but I finally took the time to take care of this issue today. I was dreading the unknown, but rolled up my sleeves and went for it. I was very pleasantly surprised at how easy it was to remedy the problem. I took a few pics, although not as great as some others and will say what I did , step by step and kinda have a pic for each one.

      1. I took off both of my sun visors by flipping up a little cover to access a single screw for each. Then on the part that the visor swings out from, I popped the cover off of carefully and removed two screws. That's 3 screws total, that was it!! It would be 6 screws total if I did the driver side and passenger, but only the driver side was leaking and that,s all I concentrated on.

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      Notice the stains from the leaking water!
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      2. I then took off the dome/map light/ sunroof switch console by just carefully prying it down with a flathead screwdriver. It's held in place by clips only, no screws. I then unplugged the two plugs and put the console off to the side safely.

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      3. I then took off the rubber trim on the interior around the sunroof (Sorry, forgot to take pic of that)

      4. I pulled down the headliner about 12 inches (didn't even need to remove it from anything, except the plastic side pillars by the windshield. They popped right off and are held in place by clips only (again SCORE, no screws!) and viewed it first from the sunroof opening, seeing my problem right away!

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      5. Then I looked at it from the drivers door side of the headliner and saw the problem from that view!

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      6. I pulled up on the rubber tube that goes down into the pillar just a little, so there was no tension on it pulling it back down. I then put some superglue on the drain plug that came from the sunroof and pushed the rubber tube back on to it firmly. The other side was still together and not a problem, nor were the rear drains, so I left them alone. If they pull away, it is easy enough to take back apart for the quick fix.

      7. I replaced everything in reverse order and now I have to wait for it to rain and test (didn't feel like pouring gallons of water over the sunroof to test. Will wait for the rain, the stopping and taking off again for, a true test). I will update again after that happens.

      Not knowing what exactly I was up against and looking for, it took me all of about 25-30 minutes from start to finish and I was also just looking around at other stuff while it was all opened up. Never know when or if ever it will have to be again, so it was good to have an idea of the inner workings up there. If there is a next time and now knowing what goes where, it should take 10-15 minutes tops. Keeping fingers crossed this did the job!

      This was on my 2002 Ford Explorer XLT
       
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      I know this may be an older post, but thanks so much for the awesome pics. Mine has been leaking awhile, gonna try to tackle it today. I'll try to snap some shots as well.
       

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