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M90 rebuild (rudy)

Discussion in 'Need for Speed!' started by jd4242, March 30, 2013.

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      Congratulations on the new job! Cant wait to hear about your engine being finished and put in the Ranger!
       
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      Well bad news..my cheap stage 3 clutch is about to go..i was racing yesterday, downshifted and felt it slip..today its got half the travel it normally does and feels like its slightly slightly slipping when ever your on it hard. .

      Guess this forces me to do the rebuild . .going to try and fix the aviators transmission first,hopefully valve body and solenoids fix it..my buddy seems to think its a band but it slips and flares in every gear..
       
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      Well checked the reservoir today and it was empty.i literally had about 2" of pedal....i dont know where the fluid went but i refilled it and quickly tried to bleed it..it still has air but feels much better..still is grabbing hard..ill get the rest of air out tomorrow or Saturday . .

      Im guessing the slave is about to give out..if it can hold for 2 more weeks ill be happy!!
       
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      Good luck with that clutch JD hope it holds out for you. My back still hurts from the other week when I did my rear main and put the new clutch in.
       
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      Thanks..yea if it goes it will just get parked till i get the motor back together . .i literally have all new parts for the T5 swap,dont know how far you read back into it..
      http://www.explorerforum.com/forums...-ohv-sohc-performance-t5-transmission.442926/

      So im not spending any money on this motor or this M5 trans,thats why it even got that POS ebay clutch in first place.guess shouldn't say POS,it has held some serious power for a year now..lol
       
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      I did read that. The t5 is a great idea. I hope my m5 will hold out its only a few years old.
       
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      Ive been through think 4 in less than 2 years..lol
       
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      That's how I was with the auto before I got the m5 :rolleyes:... but your experience doesn't bode well for my m5 considering my engine plans. I look forward to seeing how yours keeps progressing it's like you're blazing a nice path to follow:thumbsup:
       
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      Don't follow JD's path. He has picked every penny, nickel, dime, etc. off the road already. lol.
      I'm sure looking forward to seeing how the motor performs once its all back together. First class.
       
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      Lol. Well there's that.
       
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      Yea has not been a cheap path for sure.the biggest issue has been getting the work done,having the rods milled and crank balanced..the rest is pretty normal stuff,just custom made and pricey.definitely more than should really ever be spent on a V6,especially the OHV.

      But then again if you compare it to my 4.6 DOHC build which costed me $1,000 just for a valve job,doesnt seem to outrageous ...hhmm
       
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      So with these 295s on the back im getting really really bad tire shake when they break loose..it has broke a strap for the gas tank,the passengers side exhaust hanger and knocked a headlight out..lol

      Saturday i fixed all those issues and made the straps for gas tank outa steel this time,last time i used aluminum . .

      But found a major issue . .the tranny mount has broken and has let the driveshaft hit my safety loop..thank god i switched the bolts out to button heads from hex heads..but it has worn my driveshaft almost in half..looks like ill be replacing the tranny mount with my solid one and getting a new driveshaft . .

      Bad pictures but here is a before so you can see the loop and bolts..
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      And where its rubbed it..really bad pic
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      pictures no-worky
       

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      How about now?? Photobucket is messed up..

      Think i was talking to @4pointslow about the chances of it rubbing when i installed it,think he used the same loop but kept the hex head bolts..the hex heads would've destroyed that shaft first time it hit..
       
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      I guess I am lucky then because, wait for it..........
      My shaft is thinner. lol.
       
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      Lol thats what she said..

      Yea i bs about putting my solid mount in and really wasnt exspecting so violent of tire shake..these 295s just cant hold the road,they will break loose when boost comes in even when warm..ive had them break loose in upper rpms in 3rd before from downshifting on the highway..1&2nd is worthless unless they are HOT,lower air psi and peddling it..i miss my slicks :( but again as soon as i start sticking,im sure more stuff is gonna break more often .
       
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      Well little update,called to pick up the block..he wants the cam to check the new cam bearings and then he'll do finial assembly of the short block,im gonna put the heads on since the lifters need to be installed. .also i think im going to tack weld Toms rocker bracket to the 3 pedestals on the head,trying to keep the bracket from rocking..

      Any rate the final bill was $1,255 for everything including the copper gaskets ..thats before the money he said he'd take off for messing up the aviators heads..little higher than was thinking but he did do ALOT of work..

      Ill update the list if find something i forgot.
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      -Block over bored to 4"
      -Decked and grooved for O-rings.
      -Crank turned to rod bearings.
      -Rod bearings chamfered to rods.
      -Assembly of rods and pistons.
      -Rotating assembly check for clearances installed.

      HEADS-
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      -Spring seat and valve steam perch milled for 988 springs and for .567 lift
      -Oversized hardened seats In/Ex
      -Fitting of oversized seats.
      -Fitting of oversized valves and valve job
      -Ported bowl and valve perch runner removed.
      -Flow tested and assembled.
      -Custom Copper gaskets
       
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      When do we get pictures of the heads and rockers?
       
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      Soon..should have it back next week..

      Still need to decide exactly what im gonna do with the rockers..got me very worried..if someone wanted to buy them from me for "close" to what i had in them,id sell them in a heartbeat and put stockers in
       
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      I understand completely. it would be nice to know of someone that has ran them for a few thousand miles without failure.
      I'd be stressed also. heck, I can't even make a 'no tricks' motor work.
       
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      Thats the unsettling part..i haven't found anyone,those that i have found have all had issues. .hell if he would refund my money id do it but its been so long and swears there is no issues with them
       
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      He was spose to come out with a top bracket that fit obviously ontop the rockers but was having issues with clearance ..the valve covers would need to be cut,squared up and raised up also..this was probably 6-9 months ago though, haven't talked to him in awile
       
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      Just finally found my cam and dropped it off today,hes gonna start assembly hopefully this week..kind of waiting on my tax return to come so told him to take his time..
       
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      I was hoping tax returns were going to further this project!
      I cant wait to see the end result, it is going to be one hell of a ride!
       
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      Apparently Tom has come out with a top brace/girdle for the rockers..i asked him to call me when he did,i didnt get a call..he has it listed for a additional $400+ shipping..

      When we talked about it a year ago he said the covers would need to be cut,welded up higher and more square to clear the girdle. .i dont see any mention of this..

      Honestly im kind of frustrated over this..one he denys that he has issues with the old plate breaking but admits he thinks it needs a top support girdle. .then come out with one and wants to charge another $400 for it..so $1,400 for a rocker kit..thats outrageous! ! The rockers come straight from the manufacturer and uses common rockers so he basically charging you around $1,000 for something thats cut out on a CNC in probably 5 mins,something i could do or copy here at work on my lunch break..

      No way no how am i paying another $400 for anything from him..honestly i keep seeing people talking about new builds they are starting and many say they want rollers,i might try and sell this kit i have if someone really wants it..the small amount of power gained by bigger ratio isnt worth the risk too me..
       

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