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Discussion in 'Modified 1995-2001 Explorers' started by johnny499, July 28, 2014.

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    1. bronchole

      bronchole Driveway flexing! Elite Explorer

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      Your second picture make this idea allot more comfortable for me, thanks.
       
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      I have the same stops, only in red. My rig is a little taller than yours so I dropped them 1.5"
       
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      I tried to set mine where they would just start to compress when the springs are flat to keep them from going into negative arch. I used 2" tube to space them from the frame.
      With the weather thinking about warming up around here i am going to try to make the time to work on the sliders next week. I stepped on the rear of the drivers side running board yesterday, it made a terrible crunching sound and flexed under my foot. :eek: Oh well it was just a matter of time.
       
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      I set mine so the the bump stops are at full compression just prior to the rear shocks being at full compression. As an aside, I have had those bump stops for at least ten years and they are still in great shape.
       
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      Well Thursday night i assembled the engine stand i plan to mount the bender on and bolted the bender together. I need to find a piece of tubing to slip into the engine stand head to make the bender mount. Then i can make the mount for the air over hydraulic cylinder and get to bending some tube.
      It is just about time for another oil change and about 6000 miles since the conversion with no further issues. It appears to like the warmer weather, it pulled about 14.5 mpg on the way up north and a solid 16 on the way down this morning. It was almost to 17 mpg before i hit the 70 mph hwy which brought it back down.
      Now if only there were more hours in the day i could get more things done.
       
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      Glad to hear everything is still working great. I am curious to see what you come up with for tube bumpers.

      http://nsw4x4.com/events.html Details of the Gilbert OHV Open House on May 16.
       
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      Thanks for the reminder, i forgot about anything i was trying to plan for the summer when i lost my best friend in a small plane crash a few weeks back. He was going to be one of the people i wanted to go with me for that event and other excursions.
      Being with the GF has limited my project time to a few evenings a week. I did manage to find more materials to get the bender mounted up this weekend and spent some time messing with and learning how to use the bending software. Some of it is Greek to me and some of it makes complete sense. I will get it figured out. So far the Assembly option seems the most useful for building bumpers and cages. It's funny that it has the most functions within it but is the easiest for me to understand, if that makes sense.
       
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      Last night i had a fabrication project for work which gave me time to make the mount for the bender while i was waiting for things to cool. I also got nut's welded on to the head of the engine stand so i can lock the head in place. the original design relied on dropping a pin in from the top and the ram may get in the way of that when i am done with the mount for it.
       
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      Last night i stopped out at my parents and drove it up on a pile to check the bump stops finally. With it on the bump stops the rear leaf was perfectly flat. I'm not sure how much negative arch is acceptable so flat is what i shot for.
      Now for the bender mount pics. I used a piece of 5" channel left over from the rear bumper of the one ton to make the mounting base.
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      I taper cut the end of the tube to level the bender on the stand.
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      Here it is leveled and welded. I also pre drilled pilot holes if i decide i want to mount it 90 degrees to its current layout.
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      Here you can see one of the nuts i mounted on the side to lock it in place.
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      I mounted it up last night. you can see the ram to the right of it.
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      You can see that it sit's nice and level on the stand.
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      The next step is to get the ram mounted up and it will be ready to rock. I am so excited to get it up and working but i need to make sure i get it built right so it's reliable.

      I found i hadn't uploaded a few pics of the led lightbar output comparison. Here are the high beams parked.
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      The high beams and led bar.
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      Low beams, fog's and lightbar on wall.
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      The lightbar definitely helps and will be remounted on the new bumper for sure.
       
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      The only thing I don't like about the LED bars is it makes the headlights look yellow. Now, I need to upgrade the headlights to match. It never ends....
       
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      I hear you on that. I picked up a new set of head light buckets to do a future HID projector conversion with. That will make the headlights perform better along with making them more of a true white. On the flip side i plan to put HID projector fog lights on it that are actually yellow which helps in the snow in my neck of the woods. More future mods. :D
       
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      I am very sorry to hear that. That is just horrible. :(

      It looks like you are making great progress on the bender so far. I am excited to see what you can build with that thing!
       
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      It's been rough but I've got great friends and family to help get through it.

      I have a couple of different ideas to mount up the ram for the bender. We'll see which one sticks or if it's a combination. Then on to the creativity with the bumpers. My plan is to start with the rear bumper then probably the sliders and the front bumper last. I am also kicking around doing a swing out tire rack on the back as well. The absolutes are receiver for hitch, led back up lights, trailer light jack and tow points of some sort.
       
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      You should probably start with the sliders first. They are the simplest so you can get use to your bender.

      What are "trailer jack lights"? I'm thinking you are missing some ,,,, there ;)
       
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      Normally i would agree with doing the sliders first but i need it to be able to tow a small trailer sooner than i think i will need the sliders.
      I think you miss read "trailer light jack" from my earlier post. It's the jack or receptacle for the trailer light wiring plug. ;) I will be installing a seven pin "rv" style with the flat four connections built in also. I want to recess mount it so it won't be easily damaged. I will probably be installing a brake controller also.
       
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      OMG! I am always doing that. Whenever there is 2 ways of taking something I usually take it opposite of the way it was meant.... :)

      I hear you on the 7way - 4 way thing. That is exactly what I am planning for mine.
       
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      I've been there, I think I have the T-shirt in fact.

      I started on the mount for the ram, I have a plan and just need to make up a couple of plates then i can weld it all together and test it out.
       
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      Every day I see you post in here I'm expecting to see your new custom bumpers..... STOP TEASING ME!

      Just joking and the stand looks like it will work great.
       
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      So now that you've put a few more miles on it and everything should have settled out, can you grab a couple of measurements for me? I'm curious as to how tall the coils are with weight on them, and what your belly height is (bottom of frame by the T-case would be sweet).

      Thanks!
       
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      The coils are at 16 1/2" and the frame by the t-case is 21 1/2" from ground. cross member is lower than that.
       
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      I hear ya, I really want to start on them but my schedule has gotten much busier since i started dating the girl friend.:D
      I have made time to pick away at the ram mount for the bender. I started by cutting the tube to length and then splitting in lengthwise. The ID of the tube is a little smaller than the ram so i opened it up a little and applied some heat to help it hold open.
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      Here is the manual handle for the bender.
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      I decided to utilize the tabs that already had bushings in them from the manual lever.
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      I installed them and a spacer to help center the assembly.
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      Then i made a couple of plates up to use for the clamp and spaced them apart with a couple of 1/2" nuts during the welding process.
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      Welded them on, should hold sufficiently.
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      I used a piece of 2" square tube to hold the tabs parallel during the welding.
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      The clamp is complete but still too hot to install the ram.
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      Once it cools down i will remove the square tube and hit it with a coat of paint. Slide the ram in and start working on the rod to arm adapter. Then finally be able to do a test bend and gather the bend data for spring back.
       
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      Thanks! That's helpful for my own figuring :)
       
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      No problem, i was looking for the same info when i built mine but just went for it when i couldn't find anything specific.
       

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