Dismiss Notice



Register Today It's free! This box will disappear once registered!

Oil Change interval

Discussion in 'Stock 2011 - 2018 Ford Explorer Discussion' started by Bill #5 Explorer, February 9, 2011.


  • Searches ExplorerForum.com
    1. Sixonemale

      Sixonemale Active Member

      Joined:
      October 2, 2010
      Messages:
      417
      Likes Received:
      16
      Trophy Points:
      18
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2015 XLT Appearance Pkg
    2. Support EF

      Join the Elite Explorers for $20

      Explorer Forum has probably saved you that much already, and will continue to save you money as you learn how to diagnose fix problems yourself, and learn which modifications work without having to experiment on your own. Elite Explorer members see practically no ads, can add their own profile photo, upload photo attachments directly to your posts and Media Gallery, create more private Conversations, and more. Join Today. Your support is greatly appreciated.


      to hide adverts.
    3. StevenC56

      StevenC56 Member

      Joined:
      March 14, 2017
      Messages:
      73
      Likes Received:
      8
      Trophy Points:
      8
      City, State:
      Fresno, CA
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Platinum
      Changed our O&F a couple weeks ago at 2500 miles. Oil monitor was at 76%. Oil was pretty darn black. Changing again at 5K then every 5K. Easy oil change. Take off the cooling duct and the filter and drain plug are right there. The 3 duct attachment fasteners are not difficult to deal with at all. I use "Race Ramps" which gave me plenty of room to do the change easily.
       
    4. JAPeterson

      JAPeterson Active Member

      Joined:
      June 13, 2016
      Messages:
      171
      Likes Received:
      12
      Trophy Points:
      28
      City, State:
      Gypsum, Co
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 XLT
      The color of the oil is no indication on if it needs to be changed or not. If it was then my diesel would need to be changed every 1000 miles.
       
    5. StevenC56

      StevenC56 Member

      Joined:
      March 14, 2017
      Messages:
      73
      Likes Received:
      8
      Trophy Points:
      8
      City, State:
      Fresno, CA
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Platinum
      If it was a diesel I wouldn't have been concerned. I've worked on diesels before, and you just open the hood and you've got black sooty crap all over you. Maybe I'm just old school, but after 45 years of working on cars, trucks, and motorcycles when the oil is black on a new engine with only 2500 miles, I'm changing it.
       
    6. JAPeterson

      JAPeterson Active Member

      Joined:
      June 13, 2016
      Messages:
      171
      Likes Received:
      12
      Trophy Points:
      28
      City, State:
      Gypsum, Co
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 XLT
      If you are really concerned about it you need to send in a sample and get it analyzed and see what it is doing. Odds are they would of told you that it was just fine and that it could of went another 7500 miles easily.
       
    7. StevenC56

      StevenC56 Member

      Joined:
      March 14, 2017
      Messages:
      73
      Likes Received:
      8
      Trophy Points:
      8
      City, State:
      Fresno, CA
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Platinum
      Not concerned that anything is wrong with the engine. And sending the oil off for testing like you suggested would most likely say it was fine. But for $40 and an hour of my time, I'm going with my sooner and more often than recommended intervals.:)
       
    8. Lewisra

      Lewisra Active Member

      Joined:
      December 14, 2013
      Messages:
      644
      Likes Received:
      6
      Trophy Points:
      28
      City, State:
      Howell, mi
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 explorer limited
      At 30k miles a year, I’ll put the $120 and 3 hours in my pocket.
       
    9. StevenC56

      StevenC56 Member

      Joined:
      March 14, 2017
      Messages:
      73
      Likes Received:
      8
      Trophy Points:
      8
      City, State:
      Fresno, CA
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Platinum
      I'm guessing you don't keep your vehicles 8-10 years like we do?
       
    10. Lewisra

      Lewisra Active Member

      Joined:
      December 14, 2013
      Messages:
      644
      Likes Received:
      6
      Trophy Points:
      28
      City, State:
      Howell, mi
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 explorer limited
      Some I do and some I don’t. I have a 2004 and 2007 well beyond 200k. Just sold 1999 last year with 260k+. 2012 with 130k, 2014, 2016 and a 2017. I change the oil based on miles not years. Each to their own preference.
       
      • Like Like x 1
    11. 613GT500

      613GT500 Well-Known Member

      Joined:
      September 28, 2015
      Messages:
      1,091
      Likes Received:
      57
      Trophy Points:
      58
      City, State:
      Ontario, Canada
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Sport
      I don't even care about the mileage anymore and go strictly by the OLM, which puts me at two oil changes a year; based on my driving habits.
       
      • Like Like x 1
    12. blwnsmoke

      blwnsmoke Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 25, 2011
      Messages:
      2,660
      Likes Received:
      71
      Trophy Points:
      68
      City, State:
      Moderator
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2011 Explorer Limited
      Black oil means nothing. 9 year Audi a4 with 160k and oil changes every 10k. 11 Explorer with 113k and oil changes every 10k, 07 f250 with 165k with oil changes every 7,500 (no IOLM so follow book)

      Yes you are old school and you can do whatever you are comfortable with. Every oil analysis sent off by members not only on this forum but 2 other Ford forums I am on have proven the IOLM works and is actually conservative.

      This has been posted time and time again. But there is no changing the minds of "old school" people.
       
      • Like Like x 2
    13. 182RG

      182RG Active Member

      Joined:
      May 9, 2011
      Messages:
      871
      Likes Received:
      8
      Trophy Points:
      18
      City, State:
      Winchester, VA
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      '11 XLT / '13 Touareg TDI
      Give up. The "cheap insurance" idiots can't be convinced.
       
    14. StevenC56

      StevenC56 Member

      Joined:
      March 14, 2017
      Messages:
      73
      Likes Received:
      8
      Trophy Points:
      8
      City, State:
      Fresno, CA
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Platinum
      OK-Peace out now that I've been called an idiot.
       
    15. JAPeterson

      JAPeterson Active Member

      Joined:
      June 13, 2016
      Messages:
      171
      Likes Received:
      12
      Trophy Points:
      28
      City, State:
      Gypsum, Co
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 XLT
      I just think that with the newer technologies that are in the newer oils out there anymore there is really no reason not to go my the oil life monitor in our vehicles. Also with the recommendations of the manufactures to run synthetic or semi synthetic instead of straight dino oil you can go a lot longer between changes.

      Even the old theory of the manufacture putting in break in oil and that you need to change it out isn't necessary. But I know owners that want to adhere to a 3000 mile oil change and then there is the 5,000 mile oil change club. I'll have to admit that I did my first oil change on my Explorer at 7,800 miles and 20% oil life left just for the reason that I was going to be on the road when it came due and didn't want to deal with it at some quick change joint.
       
    16. Sixonemale

      Sixonemale Active Member

      Joined:
      October 2, 2010
      Messages:
      417
      Likes Received:
      16
      Trophy Points:
      18
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2015 XLT Appearance Pkg
      Please tell us that you are not really giving all Explorer owners the advice that “black oil means nothing”? Do you also believe that conventional motor oil is as good or is as effective as synthetic motor oil?

      Black oil could me something or nothing, it depends on the circumstances surrounding the color change. If we compare someone who lives out in the middle of a dusty desert, should they change their oil at the same interval as someone who drives on a paved freeway everyday back and forth from work, with little stop and go traffic? Not hardly, the person in dusty desert has a greater likelihood of their oil getting dirty much quicker than the commuter. Same situation if the commuter was being compared to someone that was towing a lot or driving in stop and go traffic in a warm climate a lot, not equal. What if oil turns black quickly after an oil change? That could be very indicative of sludge build up in the oil pan or perhaps something else. What if oil turns black and thickens? That too would be indicative of dirt and contaminants and probably means it’s time for an oil change. Lastly not all oil and oil filters are equal, some are better than others. So, how do you solve unequal oils, filters and environmental conditions without breaking the bank, change your oil and filter before manufacturers recommendations.
       
      Last edited: July 18, 2017 at 12:34 PM
    17. peterk9

      peterk9 Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      December 28, 2010
      Messages:
      16,943
      Likes Received:
      291
      Trophy Points:
      113
      City, State:
      Ottawa, Ontario area
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Explorer Platinum
      Callsign:
      VE3
      I'm with you Steven. I change the oil twice a year regardless of what the IOLM shows and I only drive about 2700 miles a year. My IOLM is usually down to around 55% by the time I change the oil. The way I look at it, it's my vehicle (Ford's really), my money and my time and I'll do with it what I want regardless of what others may think. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on this issue without being called "an idiot" by someone who has a different opinion.

      Peter
       
    18. Napalm

      Napalm Active Member

      Joined:
      June 18, 2015
      Messages:
      618
      Likes Received:
      12
      Trophy Points:
      18
      City, State:
      Memphis tn
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016
      well ok

      how black was it? I mean subjective isn't even the right work to use. By some accounts mobile 1 - extended is darker than the basic so is it already dirtier.

      I mean hell your tires look over inflated. I don't know if they are or not - not going to put a gage on it or check to a comparison standard. They look over inflated so they must be.

      I'm not going to fault the guy for his concern and for all I know his oil was blacker than the ace of spades - I wasn't there.

      but I will say that color is 1) subjective and 2) not a qualifier for the quality of the oil in hand.

      Failing all that I'm of the early first oil change club I think I did mine at or near 1500 - and yes I know full well that engine was started at least twice before I got it - and had fresh oil put in at the factory after it's first start when it was built.

      but I also go nearly to OLM today now at 47K miles on a 2016.
       
    19. blwnsmoke

      blwnsmoke Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 25, 2011
      Messages:
      2,660
      Likes Received:
      71
      Trophy Points:
      68
      City, State:
      Moderator
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2011 Explorer Limited
      I love reading your posts, they are fantastic.
       
    20. 613GT500

      613GT500 Well-Known Member

      Joined:
      September 28, 2015
      Messages:
      1,091
      Likes Received:
      57
      Trophy Points:
      58
      City, State:
      Ontario, Canada
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Sport
      That would fall under extreme conditions, in which Ford recommends 3000 to 5000 miles.
       
    21. Junkmann2

      Junkmann2 Active Member

      Joined:
      May 7, 2004
      Messages:
      112
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      16
      City, State:
      Northeast CT
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Ex Limited & Sport
      I changed the full synthetic oil at the 6000 mile mark, and it had 38% oil life remaining. It was black, but I don't change oil based on color, but I do sniff the dipstick, for odors. After 50 years, I can tell when oil is going bad based on the sniff test. Some might think that this is foolishness, but it works for me. I have been using full synthetic in both 2016 Explorers, and even though my wife and I drive differently, it seems that the OLM is usually at the same point in mileage and percentage of oil life left. This is the first time that I went past the 5000 mile mark on her car. I see the oil change records as meaning more to the next buyer of the car as important than necessary for myself, and for that reason alone, I only use the Motorcraft filters. Today, service records are very important to buyers.
       
    22. bigdude2468

      bigdude2468 Active Member

      Joined:
      April 30, 2014
      Messages:
      208
      Likes Received:
      6
      Trophy Points:
      18
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2014 Explorer XT
      FWIW Consumer Reports did a long term oil test / evaluation on NY City taxis a few years ago. They used the taxis due to the severe duty, the high number of miles they drive, lost of different drivers in each vehicle to balance out driving styles etc. They did 3000 mile oil changes on 50% and manufacturers recommended interval on the other 50%, 7500 miles +. After 150,000 miles they tore down and inspected the engines, absolutely no difference in engine condition. Not one of the vehicles experienced an engine related failure. They also used Mobil 1 in some vehicles and they were not in better condition than the conventional oil vehicles upon inspection. Interesting that one of the Mobil 1 vehicles did have an engine failure but CR did not believe it was oil related.

      I use Mobil 1, typically change twice a year at about 6000 miles and my OLM is between 20 - 25%. We spend the winter away from our primary residence so I change before we leave regardless of miles
       
      Last edited: July 19, 2017 at 7:10 AM
    23. whimsey

      whimsey New Member

      Joined:
      April 6, 2017
      Messages:
      10
      Likes Received:
      3
      Trophy Points:
      3
      City, State:
      sparta, nj
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 XLT
      With my older Ford's with the 4.6 V-8's and my 2.0 Zetec, both easy on oil life, I went to 8-10,000 mile oil changes with synthetic oil. The oil always came out a slightly darker amber color, which means nothing. I had UOA done and the wear metals were low and there was plenty of life left in the oil. Our 2017 2.3 Ecoboost is our first vehicle with an OLM. Both Ecoboost engines being direct injected and turbo charged tend to be tougher on oil life I'm not sure it's wise to use the OLM. Did Ford calibrate it differently for the Ecoboost being tougher on oil life, I don't know. I changed the factory fill at 2,000 miles. The dealer supplied a "free" oil change but I found out they don't use Motorcraft 5W-30, they use some cheap bulk conventional oil. I changed that out after 3,200 miles because we were traveling over 6,000 miles in a 1 1/2 month period. I'll change it after the last trip, probably at about 7,000 miles and have an UOA done and see how it compares with what the OLM says. Even though it's mainly highway miles, they are brutal ones, running 75-85 mph for hours at a time. I'll post the UOA here when I get it back. For the Fall, Winter and Spring I'll use Motorcraft blend 5W-30 at 5,000 mile intervals or sooner if the OLM says to.

      Whimsey
       
      • Like Like x 1
    24. JAPeterson

      JAPeterson Active Member

      Joined:
      June 13, 2016
      Messages:
      171
      Likes Received:
      12
      Trophy Points:
      28
      City, State:
      Gypsum, Co
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 XLT
      For those of you that want to find out exactly what your oil is doing you need to get is analized. The smell, feel, color, and other test that you do are nothing more than guesses.

      I have used Blackstone Labs for my Ford diesel truck with the 7.3 engine in it for 20 years now. They will give you a break down of what is in the oil. Chemicals, metal, and whatever else and get the report back to you via email in less than a week after you ship them your sample. The samples are free and the fee to test your oil is only $28.00. They will also tell you just how far past your change that you should be able to take your oil.

      But it you want to change your oil at 3,000, 5,000, or whenever it suits you that is also fine.

      https://www.blackstone-labs.com/
       

    Share This Page








    We Support Our Troops!