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Rearview Camera Problems

Discussion in '2011-2016 My Ford Touch / In Vehicle Technology' started by kkeb, June 6, 2011.

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    1. ahamid

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      Just to update...

      I finally found the circuit diagram.

      Checked the male pins/connectors on the camera. All resistances were found within the range specified.
      Is it possible that the problem is still within the camera? Maybe the wiring? Any leads on how to proceed further for diagnosis?

      P.S: Already checked fuse 29 and 34. They're good.
       
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    3. peterk9

      peterk9 Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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      I have merged your 2 posts with this thread. Chances are that like the rest of those posting here that your camera has to be replaced. Many 2011 and 2012 cameras appear to be failing lately. Some members have replaced it themselves but the camera seems to be around $300+.

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      While I agree that almost all of the 2011/2012 cameras reported here had to be replaced, there should be some testing to rule out camera issue from wiring issues. My camera pin resistances were found in range, which makes me jittery about the whole matter.

      Dishing out 500$ for a camera is just absurd! I don't know why Ford raised the camera price last year. There are 15$ Chinese cameras in the market that work just as fine. It is a pity these can't be directly connected. I've read about some F-250 users connecting aftermarket Chinese CCD cameras with the main camera connect using a special harness (Ford P/N: FC3Z-14A412-A); price is about 15$. Too bad this harness is not available at the Ford center in my vicinity. Has any Explorer owner tried installing this? 15$ for harness and 15$ for camera is a pretty good compromise over 500$ camera, if you are not the "original OEM stuff" freak! :)
       
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      To my knowledge no one has yet reported a problem with the wiring harness. All replacement cameras worked so that would rule out any issues with the harness. That said, I guess it is possible that eventually a harness may become faulty. I don't believe anyone has used the cameras you mentioned. After a camera has been replaced, the dealer then has to configure it to your vehicle and I don't know if those aftermarket ones can be programmed that way so that all functions will work.

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      Hello everyone!
      Just like many of you, my rear view camera on 2013 XLT has decided to stop working as well. I've tired everything mentioned in the tread but nothing helped. I'll have to bite the bullet and spend some money on a new camera.

      I was hoping if someone could tell me if there's any difference between these two model numbers:

      DB5T-19G490-AB

      DP5T-19G490-AC

      The first one model number (DB5T-19G490-AB) I got it from the camera in my explorer and the other one is selling on ebay. The dealer is asking over $600 (CDN) just for the camera! It's a lot money. I'm hoping to get something compatible (and cheaper) :)
       
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      I tore down my 12 XLT camera a few days back. The P/N was BB5T 19G490 AE. DOM was July 2011.

      If you are okay with loosing the zoom function of the camera, you can install any decent chinese camera in the original circuitry using a wire harness P/N FC3Z 14A412 A. Cable cost is around 15$ and camera will also cost you in that range. Requires a small DIY job though.
       
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      There's zoom function in these cameras?? I don't care about the zoom function but I'm not that handy to figure out how to install chinese camera. So what is the model number...is it the whole thing ## DB5T-19G490-AB or would anything with 19G490 fit? thanks
       
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      Welcome to the Forum San.:wave:
      According to these parts sites neither number is shown when I searched.

      http://parts.autonationfordwhitebearlake.com/?p=catalog&mode=search&search_in=all&search_str=rearview camera
      https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/?p=catalog&mode=search&search_in=all&search_str=rearview camera

      Benny at Levittown is a site vendor and has supplied many members with parts. Keep in mind these prices are U.S.

      Peter
       
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      Thank you. I believe those model numbers are older models. I will follow up with Benny.
       
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      According to the first link, Ford Edge and Lincoln MKX cameras are around 80$... that's a bargain.
      Wonder if these can be fit into the EX. They sure look the same. Can't believe anyone hasnt tried this yet. Even google is silent on this one. Wish someone with the right knowledge and experience could comment on this...

      Recalibration of the camera can be done via Forscan. 5 min job really. It brings back the gridlines and zoom feature automatically. Only wish I could get an 80$ oem edge camera here in Qatar, I would have probably been the first one to install and calibrate it. Would have posted the whole procedure for everyone's benefit. Alas! Parts sites dont ship it to Qatar.
       
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      So the camera started working by itself last night :dunno: Hopefully it stays like that.
       
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      @peterk9 , all
      Guys, there is breaking news!

      I have finally found a 60$ solution to the camera issue.
      Bought 60$ FL1T-19G490 FoMoCo camera from a store on aliexpress with free shipping to Qatar. I was their first customer by the way.

      Got the camera today after 7 days. Seemed identical to the OEM camera. Didn't care for 110F temperature outside and did the replacement job myself. When I put the car to R, violaaaa!! It works. For the camera guidelines, I calibrated the camera using Forscan.

      The camera quality is HD, much better than my earlier 2011 model camera. Also, the night results seem to be much brighter. The camera I purchased seems to be OEM as it had all the markings and writings of the OEM camera, with the manufacturing date of 2015.

      You're welcome.
       
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      Great work! I ordered the same one off of eBay after reading your post and it came today. Can't wait to see how it works. Thanks for posting that. If it works that's a lot of saved money. Did you use forscan cabled to the a laptop or can you do it using the Bluetooth app on an iPad?
       
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      Hi benny18,

      Good to know someone got benefit out of my post.
      If your explorer is equipped with active guidelines, only then you are required to calibrate the camera. This can be done via full version of Forscan, which to my knowledge is available for PC only.

      The normal static camera guidelines will be set by camera module automatically without the need for Forscan.

      Link for Forscan procedure#
       
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      Oh nice. Yes I just have the normal straight lines. With the red yellow and green boxes. Active is the ones that turn when you turn the wheel then, correct? Thanks
       
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      Yes that is correct. Active guidelines are only there if you have Active Park Assist.

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      Perfect. Thanks guys!
       
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      Mine has started to go bad too. What a shame that Ford feels the need to rip us off on the replacement. Thanks to those of you figuring out the "reasonable" alternatives.
       
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      Installed the new camera today. Doesnt work. Old one still works intermittently so I swapped them out a few times and the old one worked but the new one doesn't. They look exactly the same. Not sure what to do now.

      IMG_9682.JPG
       
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      ... New one is on the left... Obviously

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      Mine also had the same part no and date of manufacture as the one on left. Too bad yours doesn't work. Does the seller you bought from offer a warranty?

      Mine is working without any issue.
      I bought from aliexpress and it has very buyer friendly policies. Payment to seller is released only if buyer agrees with the product after usage.
       
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      I am getting intermittent faults on the rear camera, where there is no image and unavailable message. Has anyone had to repair/replace the unit, and what should expected cost be? Is there an aftermarket preferred fix?
       
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      I had the same thing happen to my front camera (2016 Platinum) the first 3 months that I had it. It was under warranty but it took them a 4 days to replace it because it effected the navigation for lane assist.

      As for cost to replace it, they can be quite expenseice to replace if you go to a dealer. I couldn't see your profile. What year and Model do you have?
       
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