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Rust to Riches, Blue's 98 Ranger

Discussion in 'Ranger / Mazda Registry' started by Blue91Ex, January 26, 2015.

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    1. mr cribb

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      Yeah, I looked around my area and the cheapest ranger wouldn't be the correct year. The trucks in your year range are easily 7 times what you paid for yours.
       
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    3. Blue91Ex

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      Yea around here a truck similar to mine with less rust but same condition mechanically are usually like 1500 and ones with mild rust and mechanical issues too are a bit more, no one sells their ranger if it isnt in some way a POS basically. I rarely see a nice one for sale at all and thats anywhere in Maine (I look in a catalog called unclehenrys that is like craigslist for maine but with more listings.)
       
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      I know about uncle Henrys. There's a show called "Down East Dickering". I love that show.
       
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      Thanks for the link but I currently only have my school computer and they block craigslist for some reason. I dont think I'll have they money to buy anything really, I could get maybe 2-300 for scrap and maybe another 2-300 from parting it out if I'm lucky, and then I wouldn't have enough time to fix whatever I bought up enough to use by the time my explorer's registration and inspection run out. Like I said, its all fixable, just sucky to have to do..
       
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      lol yea I have heard of the show, seems a bit over dramatized to make it funny, most of us Mainers aren't quite like that but uncle henrys is still pretty good.
       
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      I'm sure there's extra drama involved with the show.
       
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      Dude that sucks, WOW I thought our winter took its toll on vehicles. lope off a rear frame section from one at the wreckers that way you get all the shackle mounts. and can cut and weld further up into better material. z notch them both and weld them back together the z notching makes for better alignment and strength , should be fine.
       
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      yea Im probably going to get some box tubing or C channel and cut the sides in a > shape and cut the frame to match and butt weld them with a chunk of plate over the joint to strengthen it, then plate up some of the other little holes farther forward.
       
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      Dang that truck is gone. Can't wait to see more pics.
       
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      So, I'm not sure what to do right now..
      I bought some stuff that was perfect (made for me) to use on the last 3 feet of frame rail, but I got home and started hitting stuff with the hammer and um the whole back of the frame and the middle driver side is VERY THIN and there is a lot of rust around the gas tank. I don't know if I should keep going with the repairs or try and make some of my money back by parting it out and start over on something else, if I can find something else...

      New rails..
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      Rust
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      Anyone near Maine interested in anything off of this? I doubt it would be easy to make most of my money back on it at this point by selling it in local ads.. not sure if it's worth saving though.
       
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      well, I guess I'm still fixing it. Rebuild the back 3ft of frame, plate up the outsides of both frame rails, rebuild crossmembers from scratch.. just not sure how I'm going to find the time to do it is all.
       
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      Days are getting longer, warmer weather coming. Keep your head up and your hands on. You'll be OK.....We've seen what you can do.
       
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      Ditto....keep working on it! The work is half the fun! :D
       
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      Thanks, Though I don't think I have taken on anything quite like this, nothing on such a large scale. Basically rebuilding the whole back 3/4 of the frame from little or scratch..

      I do enjoy working on this sort of stuff but when it is a vehicle you need to be able to drive by a certain time and you paid way too much for it and it is just one new problem after another, it becomes very not fun.


      Now, new little development, I will probably not rebuild the frame to the point I planned. I think what I'm going to do it beef it up to where it is safe to drive and will take a inspection sticker, and make it look nice and run good, then list it for sale, drive it until it sells, put the money towards another vehicle, most likely another ranger. These plans might change but right now, thats the idea, I'm still rebuilding a lot of frame and patching any holes, but the areas that are thin but solid are just getting sanded down and undercoated.

      I Will deffinitely keep updating this as it seems you guys are still very interested, though having a resale as the end-goal isn't as fun, and to be honest I kind of like this truck. I might even try to find another 98-00 when the time comes.
       
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      I would save your change and pick up a southern truck. Then you undercoat it before first snow.

      Just my 2 cents
       
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      thats sort of the idea after I get rid of the truck but probably just a truck around here with no rust, they do usually come from down south, but I don't have to deal with the transport, plan is when I sell the ranger, drive the explorer again for a little while (fix it juuust good enough to get an inspection, hopefully only have to drive it a month or so at that point, I'll do the repairs this summer while I drive the ranger. so basically plan is:

      fix frame and other junk on ranger.

      drive ranger for a while so I can fix the explorer and try to get interest in it to sell it.

      Drive explorer for a while after fixing the important stuff until I find another truck to buy

      hopefully have enough saved up to buy something decent this time and either do very little work on new rig or none, re-retire explorer and drive new truck.

      by very little work or none, i mean no repairs, Deff going to be building stuff for it and modding whatever i get.
       
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      Well, I guess there has been yet another change of plans

      Edit: Finished items on the list will be changed to THIS color when they are completed.

      If I fix it up enough to get an inspection and sell it, I may as well do the other 2/3 of the work it would need and just run it for a couple years. The main drawback for this is that I will have to renew the registration and inspection on the explorer to buy me a few more months to work on the ranger and get it completely ready to go, which will cost me money. The explorer will need at the very least a new muffler, intermediate pipe, and tailpipe to get another inspection so there is at least 150 bucks I can't use for the ranger or other projects.

      Anyways, The current list for the ranger is as follows.

      (Edit: see post 1.)
       
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      SIMPLE LOL.

      Good luck dude it will all work out
       
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      It sounds sorta simple I guess, and it's less daunting because "it's only 11 things" but the work I have ahead of me is going to be quite a project haha.

      I'm hoping to get a little bit of frame work done friday if I have time. That or finish taking apart the front clip in prep for rad support work.
       
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      So, some progress has been made on the ranger. Not a whole lot, as I only have evenings and some afternoons to work on it, but some is better than nothing.

      I dissasembled the front end, grille, headlights, fenders (those are sort of a pain in the ass aren't they? haha) bumper, tow hooks, everything but the rad support and inner fenders.

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      Rust on the rad support and body mounts:

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      After cutting out the rust:
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      Not pretty, I know, but hopefully tomorow I will trace out and cut a piece of .14ga plate to weld over the bottom of the rad support to re-attach everything and strengthen it.

      Also took the grinder and wire wheel to the frame ends to prep for paint and I sprayed some napa rust converter on it to neutralize any little bits of surface rust I missed with the grinder. I plan to spray it real quick with truck bed liner tomorrow if it is dry out.
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      bonus ex and ranger pic just because
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      Started on the passenger side filler plate today.

      keep in mind I only have an angle grinder (and I was using almost completely used up grinder disks) so my cuts are not particularly pretty. Also I don't have a proper work bench or bench clamp to work on, so pieces like this take like 2x as long as they would say, if I were working on them at school. anyway pics

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      I still need to drill holes to attach the inner fender to as well as an arm (bolts on) to bolt the fender on to, I may just weld the old one back on, as it isn't too rusted.

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      Just as sort of a side note, I am going to be grinding off the rust from the bumper (It should be solid enough still) and repainting it with truck bed liner, but I have this smaller toyota brush guard (I got it to take the headlight guards off of for the explorer) and I am debating trimming it down and welding it to the bumper. any thoughts on this?

      about where it would be welded to the bumper:
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      Just to show size comparison to the front end:
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      Alright! This is probably going to be a long post, as I got a good amount done today and took a lot of pictures.

      So, I'll start with my work space I set up because I was tired of cutting metal on the rock steps to my porch with my foot an inch from the grinder..
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      It doesn't look like much but it made a HUGE difference in how easily and quickly I was able to make pieces I needed and drill holes etc. If I had a garage and the tools I need like a plasma cutter, this truck would be done in a few weeks haha.

      Anyway now to work today.

      I had to modify my piece a bit to allow the headlight/grille support to bolt on, and I fabbed up the driver side filler piece as well.
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      Now, I made that notch to fit the bracket that holds the secondary support to the rad support, but the brackets were square and small squares are hard to cut with a large angle grinder, so I also modified the brackets to make everything easier and still strong enough.
      [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8Yqs3FB.jpg

      Drilling holes to bolt the inner fenders/mudguards to the rad support...
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      I'm Re-using the factory lower-front fender support brackets so I didn't have to custom make them, I just added a hole on the filler plates to allow it to bolt on, like it would normally, to allow for adjustment.
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      Test fitting before I started welding anything to make sure I didn't have to adjust anything...
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      Starting the welding...
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      Tight spot around the body mounts so I just went the big and ugly route.
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      Lots of tack welds, just like body work, little more time sitting on each spot though to make sure the weld gets into the 14ga plate well.
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      Before taking the grinder to it (both sides look about the same, after the pass side I kind of forgot about taking pictures on the driver side)
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      Aaaand all done. just needs a good dose of rubberized truck bed liner like the frame horns.
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      Alright so that may be about it for a little while, I have exactly 0 days off that I can use to work on the ranger for the next 8-9 days but If I get anything done in the evenings I will post up the progress!
       
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      Got some paint on it today.
      So I can check one thing off of the list now, aside from drilling out a few broken bolts and replacing them It should be all good. I might tackle the body work on all of the wheel wells and fenders next, as I'm still not sure what the plan will be to work on the frame as far as where and how, since the truck is parked in the only dry part of the driveway but it's in the way of my dads car, which is on ramps and the ranger is right in the way. I can;t drop the tank until I know I can park the truck somewhere for a while.

      The front fenders are going to be a relatively simple, I'll buy a small sheet of .20ga sheet metal (even though they are ungodly expensive at a hardware store, I don't need much..) Ill cut out the rusted bits with holes, grind down the parts that are solid, weld in whatever little pieces of sheet I have to, then bondo on the outside to make it look like it was never bad, then paint of course.

      Anyways, couple pics from today. It isn't pretty by any means but it'll get an inspection and hopefully not be a problem for a long time.

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