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Seven Days Five Trails Who is up for it?

Discussion in 'Offroad 4x4 Runs Planning and Discussion' started by RockRanger, September 17, 2016.


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      After watching 4 Wheel and Off Road Ultimate Adventures over the years I think it is time to do my version of this. Having fun in Moab this year being able to do multiple days of wheeling back to back I have come up with my own version. Instead of trails spread out by hundreds of miles and costing a small fortune to travel to and from the trails, I have a nice group of trails nearby that would make for a great adventure. I am looking for a few people that are just as crazy as me to attempt this. I have done all of these trails within the last two years. Some of the requirements to accomplish this are as follows:

      Lockers front and rear
      35" or larger tires
      Winch
      Ability and desire to tent camp for six- eight days strait.
      Carry enough food and water for 5 days without restocking.
      Ability to carry 20 plus gallon of fuel. You need enough to cover 100 miles of pavement and 40 miles in 4 low off road.
      Sliders, Skid plates, and tow points front and rear.
      A good attitude.

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      Ham radio. It allows for easy communication without having to be in the dust of the person in front of you. A $30 handheld is more then enough.
      Fishing gear. Some of the lakes along the routes have awesome trout fishing.
      If you have a manual trans a doubler or Atlas tcase is HIGHLY recommended.

      So what trails do you ask?
      Dusy Ershim http://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/dusy-ershim-4x4-trail
      Mirror Lake
      Coyote Lake http://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/coyote-lake-4x4-trail?ref=search
      Swamp Lake http://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/swamp-lake-4x4-trail?ref=search

      If time allows:
      Bald Mountain
      Brewer Lake
      Strawberry Lake

      What dates? I am thinking of hitting the trail Sunday morning August 27, 2017. The last trail would be finished the afternoon of Saturday September 2, 2017. This schedule allows travel to the Fresno/ Shaver Lake area on a Saturday. Then you drive home the following Sunday. Monday of Labor Day to relax at home before you go back to work on Tuesday.

      Theoretically you could join for part or all of the trip.

      You have eleven and a half months to plan for this. Who is in :burnout:
       
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      the trip to and from would be a beast from the east, but the trails look incredible
       
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      This is my daughter from our fishing trip to Mirror Lake over labor day.

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      Our campsite at swamp lake this summer.

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      On the trail into Coyote a few weeks ago.

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      The tower on top of Bald Mountain.

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      I am very fortunate to have some amazing wheeling within a few hours of my house. I have spent somewhere around 15 days this year on these trails. Add 5 days in Moab and I have done a fair bit if wheeling this year.
       
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      Yup, it certainly looks like it!!!!
       
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      I would love to do something like that some day. Thanks for the Invite!

      Being so far away, and the time needed for both travel and trip time is something that I'm not sure I could do, even if the finance's allowed. Would be great to pull this off, if possible. I will stay tuned in the meantime.
       
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      This definitely give me time to plan, but I can't say for sure until it gets closer. Looks like a great adventure :D
       
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      Looks like a fun trip, I won't commit just yet but definitely interested. If I did this trip I'd need to get new tires, my KM2's are dried out and cracking so I wouldn't trust them for long distances. Keep you posted.
       
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      Seems like a great adventure, with good people. Can't commit now, but would really like to do that. Okay if I invite my buddy Mike Kelley?
       
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      Go for it.
       
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      Think a full independent vehicle (ie 3rd gen) could handle these trails if outfitted properly?
       
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      Honestly I don't know. I haven't wheeled with a third gen enough to know what they are capable of. The lack of suspension flex would cause for some interesting lines to have to be taken. The trails are pretty tight and more then likely would cause some body damage. I think a well skid plated and equipped rig and an owner who understands that there is a very good chance for body damage could make it. The best answer I could give is for the owner to do as much research on the listed trails and they can make the decision. Maybe more info on the rig and driver and I could give a better answer.
       
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      My friend Jonathan is in. He did Swamp and Coyote with me this summer.

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      Sounds fun, I will also keep it in mind!
       
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      I'll add this to my calendar! Probably have to drag the JK over crap, but it will be fun!
       
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      Hope you guys can make it. My friend Mike is planning on joining in as well. I did Bald, Mirrior and into Red Lake (half way to Coyote) with him this summer.

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      This is the schedule I am thinking.

      Sunday August 27: Meet at the gas station in Shaver Lake to top off fuel at 7:30 am. Leave at 8am for Dusy Ershim Courtright end. Go over Chicken Rock and Camp at Thompson Lake.

      Monday August 28: Pack camp and go Thompson Lake to Ershim Lake and setup camp.

      Tuesday August 29: Pack camp and go Ershim Lake to end of trail. Top off fuel/ice in Lakeshore or Shaver. Go to Mirror Lake or West lake and setup camp.

      Wednesday August 30: Pack camp and finish or run all of Mirror. Depending on time maybe go in and out to Strawberry. Go to Coyote and setup camp.

      Thursday August 31: Pack camp and come out Coyote. Get supplies if needed in Shaver and then run Brewer and Camp at Brewer Lake.

      Friday September 1: Pack camp and come out of Brewer and go to the North end of Swamp. Wheel to Swamp Lake and setup camp.

      Saturday September 2: Pack camp and Finish Swamp lake. Depending on the time and how everyone feels we could run up to the top of Bald on the way out of Swamp. Air up and head home.

      What do you think? This has the potential to hit every trail in the mountains except Spanish. Spanish has been closed the last few years due to a wild fire that heavily damaged the area. I doubt it will be open.

      A few things to keep in mind with this schedule.
      Every night of camping is at a lake. :)
      Currently every camp site listed except West (if we camp there) has a pit toilet available for use. There may be one there by the time this trip happens.
      We more then likely will be under camp fire restrictions as we have been the last few years. This means no wood fires or cooking with Charcoal. A propane fire ring and cook stove can be used with a fire permit. I have a propane fire pit I carry with me. I can get roughly 3-5 days out of a 20lb bbq tank. I get it topped off before I leave. Depending on the size of the group it would be nice to have one more fire ring and 2 tanks per ring for the trip.

      I will keep adding to the thread as I think of things.
       
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      Kinda what I was thinking. Like anything else in the world, independent front and rear have pros and cons. Pumpkins are much higher, but they just flat out dont flex like a live axle. I'll look into it a bit. I would list plates and sliders as a must, same with front and rear lockers. Not sure anyone has run big enough lift to get the right size rubber on a third gen yet. I have no doubt that it would keep up in every aspect of the trails, but the crawling would likely be its death.
       
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      I doubt it will be pretty when it is done. How well will the CV joints hold up to lockers? What are the available lifts for ground clearance? A 2" suspension spacer or strut and a 3" body lift would make it tough. You are talking about having 12-14" of belly clearance I am guessing? I have 23" of clearance under my belly pan and around 30" at my rockers and still hit them. Mine is smooth and slides off stuff easy. My wife's CJ7 has about 16" and we avoid some of the trails to not beat on it as it sits. We can probably do the trails especially with the gears she has but it would take a lot of work. She is a better driver then a lot of people I run into on the trail.
       
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