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Seven Days Five Trails Who is up for it?

Discussion in 'Offroad 4x4 Runs Planning and Discussion' started by RockRanger, September 17, 2016.

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      I saw @Stic-o run Swamp with his 99 Explorer before it was SAS'd. I think all it had was a torsion twist and maybe a lunch box locker. It was entertaining when we dropped into that canyon full of boulders. Throw back pictures of Swamp, 2004. Look at my kid, she is 22 now.
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      I believe this is Mirror Lake, I have always wanted to go back there and camp.
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    3. RockRanger

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      The local trails over the last 5 years sense I moved back to Fresno have been getting harder and harder. We are planning a slight rebuild of Tracy's jeep to keep up with the trail changes.
       
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      I'm in like flynn. With one of the two, likely the Ex.

      Question... Would we be able to load up or need to drive to each trail?

      and where would we park the tow rigs for the week?
       
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      Once you unload you won't need the trailer to move from trail to trail. you won't come back past the trailer till the very end. If you google map the intersection of Dinkey Creek Road and Rock Creek Road there is a large parking area on Dinkey Creek Road just before you get to Rock Creek Road. Maybe a quarter mile before. It is on the north side. GPS 37.071572, -119.184987 Once you unload there it is about 15 miles of pavement to Courtright reservoir and the start of Dusy. All of that is at roughly 30 mph. When you finish Dusy you come out on a paved forest service road. 5-10 miles on it to the highway. If you top off with fuel here then you have maybe a mile on the highway till the next turn off. If you need to go to shaver for supplies it is 15ish miles each way on the highway doing 50 mph. You could do 30mph if you need to. Then it is up another forest service road to Strawberry, Mirror, and Coyote trail. They all start and finish at the same point. From there it is back down to the highway. 15 miles to Shaver if needed. If not it is about 4-5 miles of highway to the next turn off. then it is all forest service roads that will connect Brewer, Swamp, and Bald Mountain. From any of these trails when we leave we will come out on Rock Creek Road. Hang a right and be at your trailer in a quarter mile.

      If you do not need to go to Shaver and can get what ever you may need in Lakeshore I wouldn't even bother airing up between trails. If you trailer you will do almost half the miles traveled in 4low. Very little highway driving will be done.
       
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      Depending on the dates, I may do some of some of the trails, but probably not a week.
       
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      If you do only part of it I would recommend doing the first three days on the Dusy Ershim.
       
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      That's awesome news! What about security of the trailer drop off point?
       
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      We left a tow rig there overnight this year when we did swamp without issue. More then likely there will be other trailers there as well. There are other spots along Rock Creek road that tow rigs can be parked. I have heard of a few break-ins in the past but not many. Probably just as safe as leaving your rig at loon lake on the the Rubicon. There is talk of the forest service adding more parking in the area for trailers. Who knows if or when it will happen. They have been going to install pit toilets at one of the campgrounds and repave the access road "this summer" for the last three years and that hasn't happened yet so who knows what will happen.

      I will check around for other options as well. It is definitely the best spot for limiting the backtracking and pavement driving for trailered vechicles. Unfortunately I live in a track home with limited street parking. I could have three tow rigs and trailers left on the street at my house for the week if needed. I am a bit out of the way though. Coming from the south it would add about 30 miles to your route. It would also require a 50ish mile drive on the highway to Shaver Lake and back.
       
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      I was more concerned with stolen truck and trailer than breaking in.

      I think that place will be sufficient for my needs, since it sounds like a pretty chill area
       
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      I would be interested in doing it. But the trials are too difficult for me
       
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      You got almost a year to get it ready :D
       
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      Install the doubler you already have in the Navajo. What you can't make with finesse you can make it with speed. I have seen you do it before.

      On another note all the trails except Bald Mountain close November 1 for the year. There is talk Spanish might open next year. Have to play that one by ear.
       
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      I really wish I had a rig, because I would be in for sure. If for some reason I get one before this happens, I'll be posting back in here.
       
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      I could help you out with that......

      can make a deal with a c5 trans and doubler too
       
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      Lots of time between now and the run. There always seams to be good deals on pirate and Facebook if you aren't to picky
      It would be awesome if you could join us.

      None of this talk. You are suposed to be installing the doubler and bringing the navajo yourself. You held it this long. No point in selling it now.
       
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      With Winter approaching the trails are getting ready to close. From what I am hearing is the toilet at West Lake is being installed this weekend. The forest service road we will be taking from the highway to brewer then onto swamp has been regraded. It was pretty rough. I also heard the vault toilets were installed at Bald Mountain base camp. Doubt we will be camping here.

      I am going to run a few of the trails Saturday to get one more run in for the year.
       
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      I looked through the links from your first post. Is dusy the most difficult trail? How much harder are these talks vs the john bull trail? (for reference)
       
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      The last time I ran John Bull was 2001 I think in my old ranger. I hardly remember it. The "hardest" part of Dusy is the length. You are a long ways into the back country and if you break something it can take 2 days to get you parts. The climb up Thompson hill is tough because of its length of about a mile up a 15 to 20 percent grade. It is a mix of loose rocks from the size of baseballs up to coffee table size. If you look at it as a 50 foot long obstacle it isn't hard. It just doesn't let up for so long. This is where a doubler or a properly geared auto is critical to keep you at a controlled speed.

      From Thompson Lake to Ershim Lake is the easiest section. There are a few decent obstacles but they are short. From Ershim to the end there are some decent obsticales but you have gravity working for you. My entire trip accross I think I took one spot last year. That was because there is one spot where you drive out on a rock then have to turn right at the right time. Think of it as driving a ridge at Truckhaven and knowing when to turn. The difference here it it is only 15 feet to the bottom.

      Mirror has about a 200 yard section that is tough. Winch points are installed in the rocks if you need them to get out. A doubler and lockers will make short work of it.

      There are about a half dozen spots on the last half of Coyote that are tough. One section that is comperable to mirror.

      Strawberry lake and West lake are easy.

      Brewer is easy with exception of the last 100 yards or so. It has a few decent rocks in it.

      Swamp is much like Dusy. No one area is insanely hard. It just never stops for 12 miles.

      I would say nothing is harder then what you would find on clawhammer in Johnson Valley. A doubler with a 5 speed is critical to making it enjoyable.

      Just get your doubler installed in the Navajo. I am pretty sure you have lockers right?
       
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      I have one locker, and a l/s. I don't plan on doing any more work on the Navajo. But I was thinking maybe I can jump in with the B2 on an "easier" section. Depending on how capable it is by then.
       
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      Are swapping a dana 35 in the front? No way a 28 will survive.
       
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      yeah. D35 is on its way from zukman. The 8.8 I already have in the backyard.
      why would I keep the d28?
       
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      Because you have a little of the crazy go fast desert in you and might want to save the weight. Sounds like you have a solid build planned for it.
       
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      solid, simple build. No go fast. I'm already saving weight by starting with a B2
       
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      This is not Mirror Lake. I am thinking it is Red from the picture. Red is one of my favorite lakes. We camped there for two nights this summer. The fishing wasn't very good his year. It sees alot of fishing as it is probably the most popular lake to wheel into.
       
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      At-a-Girl! All dressed up like a princess, gone fish'n with papa.
       

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