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SYNC3 in a 2016 Explorer

Discussion in '2011-2016 My Ford Touch / In Vehicle Technology' started by jmr061, February 13, 2016.

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      Hoping this becomes easier to do as the Sync3 models come out and smarter people than me can figure out how to make this work...
       
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      The IPC in the 17 is different. It has more available programming slots. No further testing has been done but I wonder if a new IPC is required to get rid of the issues I was having.
       
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      It's definitely possible. Now that the '17 models are on the streets I'm waiting patiently for a salvage auction to come up for a sport model. I'm sure swapping out the tech stuff should be pretty straightforward considering no cosmetic changes have happened in 2017. Then parting out the rest of the car just takes some time and patience.
       
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      I know it has been a while since you posted...my issue was that SYNC3 seemed to mess with setting in the right side of the instrument cluster. Never solved it. The 17 has an updated IPC and is different than 16 and I suspect this may be part of the reason.
       
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      I'm curious about compatibility with the IPC in the 2016 Platinum as it's the newer, all-digital model. As soon as additional information begins coming out and the parts become more accessible I plan on installing the SYNC3 module so long as it won't bomb things out.
       
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      Pretty sure the 17 high end cluster is also slightly different than the same in the 16. Don't know if that will cause an issue. Don't know until you try.
       
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      Thank you jmr061, for all the effort and updates. I rented a (probably) '16 Lincoln Navigator last weekend, and was blown away (and really disappointed in my '16 Explorer Ltd MFT) by the responsiveness and GUI of the Sync 3 interface. It even connected and reconnected to my phone at a much faster rate than my own Explorer does!
      I'd really like to see at least an update to MFT interface that would bring the same responsiveness, if not the GUI improvements, that the Lincoln buyers can get.
       
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      Interested in this as well. Picked up my '16 XSport today.
       
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      What differences in the MFT systems are there between Ford and Lincoln?
       
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      It was Sync 3, not MFT. MFT performance doesn't compare to Sync3. Sync 3 has a toned down GUI- no color coordinated quadrant layout for main screen; all menu application/categories touch button/icons are along the bottom of screen. The responsiveness of the touch to the screen is similar to what you get and expect from your smartphone; not like MFT. But, what really opened my eyes was how well it just reconnected to my phone when I returned to the vehicle after having turned it off, gone to a restaurant...any stop.
       
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      I never really paid attention to that so I just went out to try it. My phone connection with MFT takes 3 seconds. Did it multiple times. That's plenty fast enough or me.

      Peter.
       
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      That's fair.
      My problem comes in mostly when my smartphone isn't the "Favorite", yet it's the only one present. If my wife's smartphone is "Favorite" and mine isn't, and yet she's 50 miles away with her phone; I anticipate some delay in reconnecting after being out of the vehicle. I'm not unreasonable. However, I can wait anywhere from 10 seconds to minutes, to longer- sometimes it won't connect and the display reads "connect a phone" or whatever it says. Usually, I just get in the car and start driving. By the time I reach the first stop sign, it will have connected. But, when it doesn't: the unreliability and intermittent failure of it, irks me
      If the device is "Favorite" the connection is usually quite fast.
       
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      I was hoping to hear if anyone else had tried and just not posted yet.
       
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      I wonder why it would take so long for your phone to pair with your Sync/MFT. I have a Samsung Note 5, partner has an iPhone (whatever is newest) and both phones are paired and ready to go before I'm even settled in and have my seatbelt on (not both phones at once, obviously). And we've never had a Favorite phone mix-up, either, even when we get in at the same time.

      I'm certainly not saying the system is without faults! It really is quite glitchy and does some interesting/annoying issues and, within 6 weeks of having it, had to do the hard reset. I had a 2013 Edge Limited for just shy of 4 years before this and I honestly can't remember having any problems with the Edge MFT/Sync. I will say that I LOVE having the cooled seats in the Explorer (and it's not even been hot since buying it) as well as the heated steering wheel (touch of arthritis in my hands so it feels good even when not cold), but I miss the rain-sensing wipers in the Edge. The silly little conveniences we just take for granted!
       
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      Im pretty sure the latest MFT v3.10 deals with improved bluetooth connectivity with a broader range of smartphones. The bigger issue seems to be the release of v3.10 being miscommunicated by Ford as some people can get it and some can't, some dealers will do it and some wont.
       
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      I just installed a Sync 3 upgrade on my 2016. So far so good! There is one U3000 error on the APIM that I haven't figured out otherwise everything is working fine. Note that for CarPlay you'll need to use part HU5Z19A387A, not the dual port hub. Otherwise you won't be able to use the secondary USB port. I put the new GPS antenna on the base of the original antenna behind the IPC. After the install and programming it is important to lock the car with the engine off for 5 minutes. This will reset the module communication.

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      Looks great, love to have it. How does the IPC work?
       
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      No issues at all with the IPC, just make sure you disconnect the stock GPS Module or the compass will bounce back and forth. Everything works on it (radio info, street names, turn by turn, speed limit, phone)
       
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      Where exactly do you disconnect the stock GPS module?

      Thanks,
       
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      Once you remove the stock APIM, it is located to the left near the instrument panel cluster. There is a connecter there that you need to press on to release it. It took me a while as it is in a small space but I did not need to remove any additional dash trim, after that I mounted the new GPS antenna on top of the old GPS module with hi-temp double-stick tape(note: if your antenna has a label and magnet under it, remove that first as it doesn't stick well) then secured the unused cable and new GPS cable to the main wiring harness with F4 silicone tape.

      The GPSM looks just like the one mentioned in this thread:
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      After I did my upgrade, the compass bounced back and forth until I drive the Explorer around for a few miles then it stopped and is working perfect now without disconnecting the stock GPS. Everything is working perfect with Sync 3 and I love Apple CarPlay.
       

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