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SYNC3 in a 2016 Explorer

Discussion in '2011-2016 My Ford Touch / In Vehicle Technology' started by jmr061, February 13, 2016.

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      On mine I had an error code on the APIM indicating a communication issue with the IPC, this resolved itself when I disconnected the stock GPS. This is probably just a difference between instrument panels in the Sport and Platinum models. I know that people upgrading Fusions have left the stock GPS in place in for the compass to work while Mustang owners had to pull their stock GPS or it resulted in errors. My compass still works with the stock GPS disconnected.
       
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      I did some more testing with Sync 3 and everything works very well including all of the AppLink apps(AccuWeather, Pandora, etc), the SpeedPass+ app shows my vehicle correctly and allows me to pay for fuel from my dash. The fuel level even syncs to the app on my phone.

      [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
       
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      That installation looks amazing. Are you following instructions online? Or what component did you buy? I would love to try and do it in my 2016 Platinum. The Sync3 in rentals I've had is so much more responsive, and Car Play is a great addition.
       
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      Thanks, it was fairly easy to swap out. I couldn't find any instructions specific to the Explorer. You just need to make sure you buy a Sync 3 unit with the correct mounting bracket for an Explorer. The trim pieces pull off but it helps to have trim removal tools. The USB hub(for CarPlay - Ford Part HU5Z19A387A) was the hardest part to replace because the cables were tied down and there wasn't any slack to work with.
       
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      Here is the APIM programming data I used for Sync 3. I used Forscan to program it. This data is from a 2017 Platinum. I changed line 1 to "AA2A 0503 0EC1" to display heated/cooled seats on the climate screens.

      7D0-01-01
      AA2A 0503 0CC1

      7D0-01-02
      028B 0004 9B06

      7D0-02-01
      5553 0104 E46B

      7D0-02-02
      0300 8000 005E

      7D0-02-03
      0005 E1

      7D0-03-01
      0000 0002 00DD

      7D0-04-01
      0100 0000 00DD

      7D0-04-02
      0007 E4

      7D0-05-01
      1A2C 1A2C 2B94

      7D0-05-02
      FCDA

      7D0-06-01
      805E

      7D0-07-01
      0A00 3300 001C

      7D0-07-02
      0000 1770 0067

      7D0-07-03
      0056 568C 0019

      7D0-07-04
      886A
       
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      Here are photos of what the correct screen and mounting bracket look like for our vehicles. The part number won't matter as long as it is Sync 3.

      [​IMG] [​IMG]
       
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      Awesome implementation. I think this is too advanced for me to try... Worried I might break something.
       
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      Note that the auction does not include a screen, you cannot use a Sync 2 screen for Sync 3. The Sync 3 screens include a new display panel with higher resolution, they are also brighter and have better colors plus capacitive touch (not resistive like Sync 2)
       
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      I doubt the lack of comments has anything to do with no interest in what you've done. Sounds like you've invested an incredibly amount of time, effort, research into this and kudos to you for making it work. My guess is any lack of comments is just that not enough people either have the time, know-how, or have a huge enough issue with Sync2 to go to all the work you did. I had a 2013 Edge for 3 years before I bought the 2016 Explorer, so it was great not having to learn a new system from scratch - I have enough projects going on! I bought the parts to install the VSS and RMU weeks ago - no time to install them. Heck, I don't even have time to put the velcro on the dash to keep my new DashMat from sliding all over. There's no way I'd ever attempt an undertaking such as yours - my car would be in pieces and out of commission for weeks! I personally have never even touched or seen the new Sync3 so I don't know what I'm missing out on but between Sirius and Bluetooth to my phone for music and Audible, I'm fine with Sync2 which is good as I plan on keeping this car at least 4-5 years! But I do hope you're patting yourself on the back for making this work - and I'm sure anyone else wanting to switch will appreciate all your information you posted! Good job!!
       
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      Agreed - I've never had any complaints with connection times. I even got a new phone 2 weeks ago - took all of a minute to delete the old one, pair the new one, and done. I've never actually timed it, but by the time I get in, push the start button, if I had Audible playing on the phone/car previously it starts right up - love that I have to touch nothing in the car or phone to resume the story.
       
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      Agree... I would love to do this in my explorer, but I don't have the technical know how to do any of it. Frankly, scared of breaking something.

      In an old Jeep Grand Cherokee I installed one of those MyGig LockPik things to enable it to be used while the car was in motion. That was the most I ever did and that was simple plug and play, and I almost messed that up too.
       
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      Hi PO, did you go through 4Dtech or infotainment or did you part it out yourself? I'm in the process of parting it out myself, but I'm kind of stumped on screen and mounting options. It sounds like the F-150/Expedition/Explorer use the recessed screen mount whereas the fusion and a few of the sedans use a flush mount. Am I correct in thinking that? BTW, great work on your upgrade!
       
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      Thanks donroja! I parted it out myself for around $1k, I found a seller that was selling one and the photo of the mounting screen matched the mount on my Sync 2 unit. You are correct, the mount is recessed. It sits in the middle between the screen and APIM.

      Here is what it should look like, this will fit with no modifications.

      [​IMG] [​IMG]
       
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      Do you happen to know what vehicle it was from? I am not seeing anything as far as 2017 Explorers with Sync 3, but I have found quite a few 2016 F-150s available, just don't know for sure its mounting application. Thanks.
       
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      I do not know what vehicle it came from but I know that the F-150's use a different mount.
       
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      Ah, that's no good! Knowing what you know now... Is there any chance this can work? [​IMG]
       
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      Huh, nothing came out of the images I posted... maybe I need more time as a member? [​IMG]
       
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      I'm totally interested in doing this, have Forscan and the skills (my APIM is highly modified already). Just don't really want to pay a grand to do it. Seems as if the Screen and (non-nav) APIM (because I'll be using CarPlay anyway) should fall somehow in the $5-600 range. Kinda waiting (or hoping) for a bit more market liquidity.
       
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      This question is simply one of curiosity for car owners who modify vehicles into something that was never offered for sale - such as some of you who are changing your Sync2/MFT to Sync3 which wasn't offered in 2016 Explorers (except the end-of-the-line models, if I read correctly).

      What happens when you trade in your vehicle that, like an early model 2016 Explorer, was never offered with Sync3? Adding such a significant component, especially one that, if not installed exactly right, could lead to major problems for the next owner - like maybe you sell your car that you, yourself, installed Sync3. And, just to complicate things, lets say that your vehicle has years left on an Extended Warranty (ESP) that you transfer to the new owner or they purchase. What if the NEW owners of this modified car start having issues? The Sync module is greatly tied in with the entire car, is it not? If there is a ESP, they can deny payment, since it was not an OEM part and there would be no record of it being installed by authorized service agent - couldn't they?

      I owned a beautiful 2003 Crown Victoria in 2006. It had the back top done in a top-notch carriage-style roof with a sunroof added, all aftermarket, but unless you were a Ford buff nobody would ever know it didn't come from the company like that. I traded it in 2 years later (LOVED that car but we bought a house and I needed an SUV for projects!) and they would not give me credit for the roof or sunroof, since they weren't factory installed, nor did 2003 CVs even have the sunroof as an option. They told me that anything "not factory" didn't count - even if you had a fantastic stereo added. A few years later, on another trade, I was told that wasn't true - any upgrade counted - so I really don't know the truth.

      What's everyone's answer/opinion to these type of aftermarket, DIY upgrades?
       
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      2 basic schools of thought (for me at least)

      1. I typically keep my vehicles a long time. At the point where I get rid of them, they're generally worth less than $5,000. I hope this one lasts that long. At that point the buyer is getting a very, "what you see is what you get" kind of purchase. My conscience is clear. So any mods on I add to it that I don't want to take with me have had their intrinsic value reduced to the point where I can let them go with the vehicle. No muss, no fuss.
      2. I am very careful to have a fallback position on every mod that I do to bring the vehicle back to stock. If something were to happen where I needed to get rid of the vehicle before that long period of time ended, I would put all the original components back in and sell the aftermarket components through typical channels.

      That's my approach at least..
       
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      I was thinking the same thing a few days ago after reading about these changes. As for OEM Sync 3, it was only factory installed in the 2017 Explorers. No end of line 2016 models.
      The Warranty Guide is quite clear on what is and is not covered under warranty.
      Here is what would likely apply under what is not covered in this case;
      • unauthorized modification to alter functionality or capability
      • installation of unauthorized software, peripherals and attachments
      • unauthorized, unapproved and/or incompatible repairs, upgrades and
      modification.
      In short, it appears that the effects of modifying the electronic components does not seem to be any different than modifying some of the mechanical parts as far as voiding warranty.
       
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      The upgrade will void the APIM warranty but not other parts of the vehicle, though if not programmed correctly it could cause an interaction with other modules. In this case, the dealer might not be able to fix it.
       
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      The lack of sync 3 in the 16 sports has held me off buying a low km model. 17 is out of price range. But this is great news!
       

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