Dismiss Notice



Register Today It's free! This box will disappear once registered!

SYNC3 in a 2016 Explorer

Discussion in '2011-2016 My Ford Touch / In Vehicle Technology' started by jmr061, February 13, 2016.

  • Searches ExplorerForum.com
    1. Oconnell84

      Oconnell84 New Member

      Joined:
      May 26, 2017
      Messages:
      1
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      1
      City, State:
      Issaquah, WA
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Explorer Limited
      New to the forums and looking to add Sync 3/Car play to my 16 Limited. I called my dealer and they said to get the Sync 3 and car play feature it would be $250. This includes a hardware module and the software install.

      Has anyone taken this route yet? Does it give the same functionality as the image someone posted earlier?
       
    2. Support EF

      Join the Elite Explorers for $20

      Explorer Forum has probably saved you that much already, and will continue to save you money as you learn how to diagnose fix problems yourself, and learn which modifications work without having to experiment on your own. Elite Explorer members see practically no ads, can add their own profile photo, upload photo attachments in all forums, and Media Gallery, create more private Conversations, and more. Join Today. Your support is greatly appreciated.


      to hide adverts.
    3. PlatinumOwner

      PlatinumOwner Active Member

      Joined:
      March 6, 2016
      Messages:
      281
      Likes Received:
      36
      Trophy Points:
      28
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Explorer Platinum
      I think your dealer is actually referring to the upgrade for 2016 vehicles with Sync 3 (new USB hub + 2.2 SW) - This isn't applicable to the Explorer because 2016 models have Sync 2. Ford doesn't offer an official upgrade from Sync 2 to Sync 3. Ford says this is due to hardware, software licensing, and labor costs. Hardware alone for a unit with navigation is $750-1000. The $60 USB hub and 2.2 SW is also required for CarPlay.
       
      Last edited: May 26, 2017
    4. peterk9

      peterk9 Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      December 28, 2010
      Messages:
      19,725
      Likes Received:
      495
      Trophy Points:
      113
      City, State:
      Ottawa, Ontario area
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Explorer Platinum
      Callsign:
      VE3
      Welcome to the Forum.:wave:
      As PlatinumOwner said, I'd be very surprised if your dealr could do it for $250 if they could do it at all.
      Please keep us updated.

      Peter
       
    5. Lexingtonian

      Lexingtonian Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 2, 2017
      Messages:
      129
      Likes Received:
      30
      Trophy Points:
      38
      City, State:
      Lexington, KY
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Exp Sport w/401a
      Anyone know if a new USB hub is required in the 2016 Explorer Sport if one were to upgrade to a new Sync3 APIM and wanted CarPlay?
       
    6. PlatinumOwner

      PlatinumOwner Active Member

      Joined:
      March 6, 2016
      Messages:
      281
      Likes Received:
      36
      Trophy Points:
      28
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Explorer Platinum
      Yes, it is required. The USB hub with the SD card slot works without CarPlay but gives an error when connected to Sync 3. The Ford part number for the hub that supports CarPlay is HU5Z-19A387-A. This hub has one USB port and also has a connection to the console USB port. Once installed the console USB port will also support CarPlay.
       
      Last edited: June 4, 2017
      • Thanks Thanks x 1
    7. Lexingtonian

      Lexingtonian Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 2, 2017
      Messages:
      129
      Likes Received:
      30
      Trophy Points:
      38
      City, State:
      Lexington, KY
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Exp Sport w/401a
      Perfect, thanks! I just found that out about an hour ago and you confirmed. I need the Hub with single USB on the front as it has two USB connections on the back versus the hub that has two USB connections on the front with one USB connection on the back. I wanted to ensure my Console USB connections worked as that is where I prefer to plug my iPhone cable. Thanks!
       
      Last edited: June 4, 2017
    8. Lexingtonian

      Lexingtonian Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 2, 2017
      Messages:
      129
      Likes Received:
      30
      Trophy Points:
      38
      City, State:
      Lexington, KY
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Exp Sport w/401a
      Happy to say I located a Sync3 Sreen and NAV APIM. It's on the way. Thanks for your help @PlatinumOwner !
       
      • Like Like x 1
    9. PlatinumOwner

      PlatinumOwner Active Member

      Joined:
      March 6, 2016
      Messages:
      281
      Likes Received:
      36
      Trophy Points:
      28
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Explorer Platinum
    10. Lexingtonian

      Lexingtonian Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 2, 2017
      Messages:
      129
      Likes Received:
      30
      Trophy Points:
      38
      City, State:
      Lexington, KY
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Exp Sport w/401a
      • Like Like x 1
    11. Sgt1411

      Sgt1411 Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 22, 2011
      Messages:
      4,011
      Likes Received:
      186
      Trophy Points:
      83
      City, State:
      VanBC/GoodyearAZ
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Explorer SPORT
      I'm really interested in seeing how this all comes together.

      Once you install the hardware are you doing the programming yourself?

      Will you have to log onto Ford Owners Website using the VIN from the vehicle that originally had that SYNC3 APIM?

      How do all the HVAC and media controls interface?.......or the DIC?
       
    12. PlatinumOwner

      PlatinumOwner Active Member

      Joined:
      March 6, 2016
      Messages:
      281
      Likes Received:
      36
      Trophy Points:
      28
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Explorer Platinum
      See page 2 for my photos, I used programming data from a 2017 Platinum and wrote the as-built data to the unit in accessory mode before starting the vehicle. Everything works exactly like from the factory. Interestingly, after running the WiFi update my Ford owner site now redirects to SYNC 3 though that is not really needed since the update is built-in and links are easy to find to the software updates. The about screen in SYNC 3 shows my correct VIN as read from the BCM. No issues at all with any controls (HVAC, Radio, Sirius, Sirius NavTraffic/Weather, IPC, Heated Steering Wheel/Seats) - AppLink works great too and apps pull correct data from the car (Mobil SpeedPass app even gets the fuel level) The 2016 IPC shows directions & music data from SYNC 3 just like a 2017. CarPlay works well too and song & artist also show on the IPC.
       
    13. Sgt1411

      Sgt1411 Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 22, 2011
      Messages:
      4,011
      Likes Received:
      186
      Trophy Points:
      83
      City, State:
      VanBC/GoodyearAZ
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Explorer SPORT

      That's excellent, good to hear.

      There is still hope for those with 16's wanting to upgrade to SYNC3 instead of trying to fix MFT.
       
    14. Lexingtonian

      Lexingtonian Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 2, 2017
      Messages:
      129
      Likes Received:
      30
      Trophy Points:
      38
      City, State:
      Lexington, KY
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Exp Sport w/401a
      Last edited: August 10, 2017
      • Like Like x 2
    15. leimeisei

      leimeisei New Member

      Joined:
      June 17, 2017
      Messages:
      4
      Likes Received:
      4
      Trophy Points:
      3
      City, State:
      Grosse Pointe, MI
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Ford Explorer Sport
      Just going to pile on to the success list here, I've upgraded my 16 Explorer Sport to Sync 3 and it is working perfectly, just like a 2017 model. Only thing was I bought the wrong screen originally.

      There are two different mounting styles for screens, and your brackets will not fit onto your new screen if you get the wrong one. Explorer owners need a Sync 3 touchscreen with a part number ending in -SC, otherwise you may have to modify your brackets.

      If you find a dealer willing to work with you, they can purchase the screen directly from United Radio, Ford's radio part distributor, but when I checked on this the part cost (without dealer markup) was $720!!! Just search Ebay and scrap yards. I got one from a junkyard in Florida that had a 2017 explorer XLT that had been totaled with just over 1k miles on it. I paid $300 shipped, and it had a tiny little scratch on the screen, but to save $420 I'll take that any day.

      I got a Nav APIM from Ebay for about $600, and my local ford dealership ordered the USB port for $70. Said and done, I upgraded to Sync 3 for just under $1k.

      At the advice of PlatinumExplorer I downloaded the Asbuilt for a similarly-equipped 2017 Sport and programmed my APIM with that. I already had a OBDLink Wifi unit that I used to program the car with. Proper VIN showed up in Sync upon installation, it seems to just happily take that info from the BCM.

      If you're missing screws that attach the Screen to the APIM, see if you can find an extra bracket on Ebay with screws. Those Torx screws fit perfectly. Alternatively, take one of them off and head to Home Depot to find a similarly threaded screw.

      All the Ford part numbers I used:
      USB Hub: HU5Z-19A387-A
      Screen: GB5T-18B955-SC
      APIM: HB5T-14G370-FCD

      PSA: Try your best to know the history of your part if you can (if you find it in a junk yard on a wreck, or purchase a brand new part, those are the best scenarios). The rising demand of parts for this from people who want to upgrade means higher value, which means it could drive up vehicle break ins and radio thefts. Near as I can tell, 4dtech sells all Factory-new parts (That's where I got the incorrect screen from originally, and it shipped with the Factory screen protector).
       
      Last edited: July 1, 2017
      • Like Like x 3
    16. peterk9

      peterk9 Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      December 28, 2010
      Messages:
      19,725
      Likes Received:
      495
      Trophy Points:
      113
      City, State:
      Ottawa, Ontario area
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Explorer Platinum
      Callsign:
      VE3
      Welcome to the Forum leimeisei.:wave:

      Peter
       
    17. htcfan2017

      htcfan2017 New Member

      Joined:
      August 9, 2017
      Messages:
      1
      Likes Received:
      0
      Trophy Points:
      1
      City, State:
      Houston. TX
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Explorer Limited
      Hi All,
      Im new to the site and I got a lot of good info here. But I do have a question. Im planning on upgrading my sync 2 to sync 3. I dont want to use Carplay because I got Android. Do I still need to change the USB hub?
       
    18. peterk9

      peterk9 Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      December 28, 2010
      Messages:
      19,725
      Likes Received:
      495
      Trophy Points:
      113
      City, State:
      Ottawa, Ontario area
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Explorer Platinum
      Callsign:
      VE3
      Just wanted to say, Welcome to the Forum. :wave:

      Peter
       
    19. PlatinumOwner

      PlatinumOwner Active Member

      Joined:
      March 6, 2016
      Messages:
      281
      Likes Received:
      36
      Trophy Points:
      28
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Explorer Platinum
      I believe you quoted the answer to your question in your post. "The USB hub with the SD card slot works without CarPlay but gives an error when connected to Sync 3."

      If you don't mind errors every time you start up your vehicle, then yes it works.
       
    20. Sgt1411

      Sgt1411 Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 22, 2011
      Messages:
      4,011
      Likes Received:
      186
      Trophy Points:
      83
      City, State:
      VanBC/GoodyearAZ
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Explorer SPORT
      USB Hub change is strictly an Apple requirement, not required for Android Auto
       
    21. Lexingtonian

      Lexingtonian Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 2, 2017
      Messages:
      129
      Likes Received:
      30
      Trophy Points:
      38
      City, State:
      Lexington, KY
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Exp Sport w/401a
      ...I'd also add for the thread. Jail breaking the iPhone makes CarPlay what it should have been!

      IMG_3060.JPG

      IMG_3054.JPG
       
    22. Sgt1411

      Sgt1411 Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 22, 2011
      Messages:
      4,011
      Likes Received:
      186
      Trophy Points:
      83
      City, State:
      VanBC/GoodyearAZ
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2017 Explorer SPORT
      Wow, that is sweet lots of apps to watch video on the SYNC screen if you're sitting in the vehicle for an extended period if Ford had designed the OEM headrest DVD system to be integrated with the SYNC3 system that would allow streaming video to the headrests.
       
    23. Lexingtonian

      Lexingtonian Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 2, 2017
      Messages:
      129
      Likes Received:
      30
      Trophy Points:
      38
      City, State:
      Lexington, KY
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Exp Sport w/401a
      It works quite well. There are some tricks to get the video to work but now that I know them, I have the following video apps working splendidly, Hulu, SlingTV, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, and Netflix. It's mostly for my wife when we're on a long trip.

      I also love having the full amazon music app enabled not the watered down CarPlay version.

      ...and Waze blows away apple maps. I *am* a self-professed apple fan but Maps is way behind. This enables the full Waze experience.
       
      Last edited: August 10, 2017
    24. chazglenn3

      chazglenn3 Active Member

      Joined:
      July 17, 2004
      Messages:
      165
      Likes Received:
      11
      Trophy Points:
      18
      City, State:
      Tacoma , WA
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Explorer Platinum
      Waze is awesome! I have made it to Knight Wazer. :)
       
      • Like Like x 1
    25. HDJulie

      HDJulie Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      November 9, 2011
      Messages:
      190
      Likes Received:
      1
      Trophy Points:
      18
      City, State:
      Little Rock, AR
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Explorer Platinum
      Damn, don't tempt me! I'm too old to be jail breaking my phone :)
       
    26. Lexingtonian

      Lexingtonian Elite Explorer

      Joined:
      February 2, 2017
      Messages:
      129
      Likes Received:
      30
      Trophy Points:
      38
      City, State:
      Lexington, KY
      Year, Model & Trim Level:
      2016 Exp Sport w/401a
      No temptation intended! :) It's harder to jailbreak these days than it used to be. Rumor has it that if you're on IOS 10.3.0, 10.3.1 or 10.3.2 that a jailbreak is coming within weeks. If you're on 10.3.3 there is no way back to a previous version at this time.

      Otherwise, this is what's jail-breakable now for Apple iOS.

      https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Jailbreak
       
      • Like Like x 1

    Share This Page







    We Support Our Troops!