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Discussion in 'Modified 2002 - 2005 Explorers' started by zerodevil, March 27, 2012.

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      what springs are you doing?...i replaced mine a few years back with kyb struts and the ground force lowering springs...

      i did the eibach sway bars and it rides awesome...only thing that was a set back were the front links on the sway bars...the bushings and the links broke right off so i bought the moog links and some other bushings that got recommended to me by someone on the forum and its been great since
       
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      I am doing that exact set up haha. Thanks for the advice on the moog end links. Do you remember the part numbers? I was thinking of doing this anyways!
       
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      not sure about the part number but if you google moog links for the explorer im sure youll find them...

      as for the bushings...heres the link to the thread i started about them and one of the forum members actually pointed me to better bushings...theyre thicker so you would need to make them smaller...heres the link

      http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325617


      i never did the camber alignment...the tires sit in on the top...i figured they would since the car is lowered with 20" wheels...i dont know how to go about fixing that...let me know if you have any more info thanks
       
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      Thanks for the info man!! I've gone ahead and placed another order for those parts.. it looks like eibach makes a set of alignlent kits for our trucks that can provide adjustment to the Camber issue. I'm going to have my local aftermarket tire/rim/suspension shop guy take a look at it when all is said and done to see what he thinks before I spend the extra hundred and fifty bucks. Any negative issues from the negative camber you have noticed?
       
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      nope no negative issues...i just figured ill fix it...i dont notice it at all while driving...when im on the interstates the truck drives smooth...

      let me know what your guy tells you...maybe it could help me out thanks
       
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      at least the truck didnt develope any funny handling issues.. Ive read that a lot of negative camber can make for a really "Fun" driving experience.. but a little bit of negative camber can actually increase cornering tracktion. My main worry is tire ware at this point, how much negative camber are you looking at? a couple of degrees? or is it really noticable? would you mind sharing a pic or two? :D

      in other news my sway bar end links and bushings made it in today! can i ask how you went about reducing them? my inclination is to find a lathe and just do it the right way...

      Summit just shipped my struts, my strut mounts.. and my MSD ignition coils...what... i had a moment of weakness. The springs and sway bars are due to ship out on the 16th, and barring unforseeing shenangians thats when i will be starting phase two of the suspension rebuilding. write up and tons of picks to follow!!
       
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      Let me know how the MSD COP's work out because all my research leads me back to using the stockers. Kind of like the Accel COP's you had, aftermarkets tend to have a higher fail rate than the stock ones.

      Make sure you take a good before and after picture of the suspension if possible!!!
       
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      will do bud. to be honest my grenatelli's made quite a bit of difference, especially in the mid range. the problem was the mounts kept breaking, and finally one of them sustained some internal damage when i had a spark plug fire out of the cylender head on me. apparently the build quality of the MSD COP's is way up where, and they have a warantte, which i like. Higher voltage, more amp's, and a longer spark.. all sounds good to me. I think my tune from henson took into account the aftermarket COP's in the spark timing, and as a result i lost a little more from running the stock ones than i would have otherwise.

      So i am thinking of lining this rig up to my dads explorer to show and compare both stance, and ride hight before and after the suspension rebuild and upgrade(which is go for wednesday the 25th).. i am also trying to talk my dad into driving a "chase vehicle" so i can get some footage to try and compare body roll both before and after.

      after this little bout of irresponsible spending, the next thing up is going to be repairing the cracked rear hatch, and the rear bumper cover.. then im getting a Sarona Aftermarket hood.. and then im getting the whole truck painted Black.. im not sure if its going to be gloss, flat, or metalic.. but thats half a year off or more.
       
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      Reading that last paragraph, I thought you were talking about my Explorer...:D My rear hatch and bumper need some love as well. I've been torn between regular black as it currently is, or Tuxedo black like most the current Fords have. I believe not8taxi repainted his Tuxedo black???

      Now I will be honest here. I've been considering selling my Explorer to buy my dream car: 1969 Mustang Fastback... Yes, it would be a DD because I don't believe in garage queens. This is 95% wishful thinking, but as time goes by, it becomes more of a reality... Anyhow, the Explorer does have something about it that makes it so hard to sell, so I guess I'll be doing some "improvements" and drive it till it's not worth driving.

      After you get the drivetrain in place and it's all running good, take her to the strip and see what she can run.
       
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      I got to that point when I was going to buy my truck too! But to be honest I realised that not only is this my FIRST CAR.. but I would lose my ass if I sold or traded her. I've spent way to much money and time om her. So idc if it takes 10 years or 10 months. I want to turn my x into a one of a kind dream machine thats still able to daily drive.
       
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      Well, summit bumped my springs yet again. Till the 27th this time.. so me and my buddy are going to tackle the lower and upper controll arms, the sway bars, and the tie rods and ends tomorrow. I'll make sure we get lots of pictures and well do a right up soon after. We will be doing the struts and springs here near the end of The month.
       
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      Bummer! I'm going to have to do something soon with mine because each day the Explorer seems to "grind" a little more and is getting bouncy on the highway when I hit bumps. Looking forward to your writeups because I'll be following them;)
       
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      Success!! Twelve ish hours to get it all wrapped up. I got a bunch of pictures and I will start a write up tomorrow, I'm totally spent at the moment.
       
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      Limited, I have to say the sway bars are amazing, putting eibachs on these trucks feels about as good as getting a push-up bra for your lady friend if ya get where im coming from :D. pardon my school yard humor, but its the only thing that remotely comes close. the difference from these bars is night and day, i can only imagine how shes going to drive when the CG is lowered down and the stance widened up a bit. the verdict, worth every stinking penny.
       
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      If my girl had a pushup bra, I wouldn't be able to see her face;)

      Get those pictures loaded up!
       
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      Ditto! :biggthump
       
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      Im working on the write up for the front at the moment, i should have it posted with a couple good pictures tomorrow!
       
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      Sorry about the lag, work had me tied up on the north slope for the last little bit. I'm crawling under her tomorrow to check my torques, and the new end link bushings. I will snap some nice pics of the set up while I'm at it. The drop and sway bars made a night and day difference in the way my explorer drives. It's not quite a sports car, but its so close it scares me. I put a new bbk 78mm throttle body and plenum combo on, and will be doing new valve covers this weekend, all to ensure I have no vacuum leaks. Also dual air oil filters on the pcv system. Other plans include a custom x piped dual exhaust system with srt 8 style exits, a bbk billet fuel rail, a custom 80mm plastic intake pipe. And drilled and slotted rotors all the way around. I will be doing trick flow cylender heads and stage two cams before the year is out too lol. Anyways, pics tomorrow!! Promise!!!
       
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      So, im looking to make it streetable here, and i have noticed that the 4.6l explorer really lacks power in the low RPM, and i am wondering if stage 2 cams is only going to make that worse, even with the higher compression from the trick flow heads. Should i be looking at a 5.4 swap to solve the low end torque problem? or do you think a stroked 4.6 with higher compression, cams, and light boost from a turbo will take care of that issue?
       
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      I believe that stage 2 cams will make the lowend power worse because they usually shift the power higher in RPM range and the lower end power suffers. Either a set of customs cams, higher stall, or some sort of forced induction can help combat that:D

      What are your power goals with your Explorer? Rocket5979 would be someone worth talking to because he knows a lot about these motors and how to make a 3rd gen Explorer fast. He could tell you what's worth doing, not worth doing because he's been there. Mounty03 is another guy that is making some serious power and has recently done some cool stuff. Hopefully he'll start a new thread and give some updates.
       
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      I'm aiming for 400 to 500 at the wheels, that's street-able, and strong enough to stay that way for years. I have some good pics of the work I did and how the truck is sitting, and as soon as I can get to a computer I will get them posted.
       
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      Motor swap from an 03-04 Mustang Cobra! It's a 4.6 :D

      You could also get the bottom end of a 96-98 cobra with the Teksid block and forged bottom end. With ported and polished heads and exhaust, you will be by quick. Not sure about 400 to the wheels NA but pretty fun.

      If you want to keep your current motor you could Procharge it. As with all builds it depends on your budget
       
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      Our motors can handle up ~400hp before you really need to get concerend. If you did the TF heads/cams and threw a blower on top pushing 8-10lbs, it would make for a fun ride:D That is also the breaking point for our transmissions if I remember correctly...

      One thing you haven't mentioned is what struts you were getting? KYB's or something else? I'm very tempted to order the Monroe Reflex one's off Amazon because my ride is terrible. Lastly, where are the pictures..........;)
       
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      Bump...

      How's everything going? I finally ordered new struts and ball joints for mine. I'll revive one of my old threads with pictures after I drop it a hair. Plan is to cut about one coil off the front and 1.5 coils off the rear.
       

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