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Torsion twist for dummies! (pics included)

Discussion in 'Shocks, Suspensions, Lift Kits' started by 97GoldXLT, October 10, 2007.

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    1. blankskater1

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      hey everyone...i have a 99 AWD mountaineer and i want to go down about 2" will this work for me? and how do i know when it is to far...also...how will the handling and ride change?
       
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      Yes you can do this, as far as ride quality goes...I have no idea because I don't mess with lowered trucks but I would think it may soften the ride. And just measure the height of the lip of your fender and then turn the bolt and frequently check to make sure you don't go more than 2" because then you will be risking CV issues even lowered because you're changing the geometry of the suspension.
       
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      so if its under 2" im safe on the cv joints....how will i know if im risking them?
      and what if i want to go lower than that? (i know its weird to lower an AWD..i just like a more sporty look..haha) also..where can you pick up the rear drop blocks?
      thanks for the help and answering my questions!
       
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      Just stay within the 2" range or else you will eventually notice the cv's going bad. If you want to go lower, I think most after market lowering kits are made for the 2wd explorer but just look around on google for explorer drop kit you may see one for 4wd/awd explorers and if you're worried bout the CV's because of being awd all the time then consider either putting a 2wd transmission in your truck or consider swapping in a 4406 either the manual or electronic shift version so that your CV's aren't constantly rotating traction wise. Either way they will rotate but in 2wd they won't have torque going through them wearing them out faster.
       
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      so there is no way to tell right away if there is to much stress on the cv's other than time?
      i think im going to try the drop..since its cheap and easy to change back
      but what is the 4406 shift version...honestly ive never heard of it

      and again..thanks for all the help
       
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      Do a search on here for 4406 swap. Its a selectable transfer case so that you can have your truck in 2wd mode. There is a manual version where a shifter will stick out of the floor or the electronic shift version where you operate it by a switch on the dash.
       
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      ill check it out....thanks

      i just picked up my blocks...im gonna do a 2/1 drop...just to get started to see how it goes
       
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      I bought my expo used is there any way to tell if the TT has already been done by a previous owner?

      Thanks, and Happy Canada Day to all The Canucks out there
       
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      Did your truck come with over size tires like 31's? If not then more than likely it hasn't, a way to tell would be to look at the angle of your torsion bars, if they're almost level or level with the lower control arms and the lower control arms are almost level with the cross member by looking at the front, then it is probably at stock.
       
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      did a 2/2 drop...love it! thanks guys
       
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      I have a 2dr 99 sport......how many rotations will I need to get about 2.25 inch lift?....just to save me some time thanks
       
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      Welcome To The Forum! It's really hard to say because each truck is different so your bars could be worn more meaning it needs more cranks or not have so much wear and only take a couple rotations, some of us have to max out our bolts to get to height.
       
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      if i remember right i did atleast 3 or 4 full revolutions, but its been like 8 months since i did it, hope this helps. If you wanna check out my explorer check out all my videos, heres a link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpQjYCCzcnI make sure to check out all the videos and comment!;) :exporange
       
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      i was wondering if anyone knew anything about drop shock for the 99 mountaineer....i did this drop..love it

      but i have alot of body roll in the front and the rear seems stiff...makes for a weird drive at times...haha

      also...has anyone ever remove the frame stops above the rear axle?
       
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      Im looking at lifting the front i found a TT lift on summit racing here is the link http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RLS-66-2020/Application/?prefilter=1. Here are the instructions http://http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/instructions/rls-66-2020_instructions.pdf I've been reading on here about just turning the TT bolts to get lift but too much will put excessive wear on the CV axle. Do ya'll think this will lift it with out putting strain on the CV axle. Check out and let me know what you think. Oh and im putting 2.5in shackles on the rear.
       
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      ok. iv read all 7 pages of this thread. iv only had my exp for almost 2 weeks now and iv been considering this the whole time. i do have some repair work i have to do before upgrading, but let me just ask one question. i have 4wd. and im not going over 2 in. so the TT and shackles is all i do correct? basically depending on where i get the shackles and liq wrench and jacks thats the only expenses (other than post-op work like alignment)?

      sorry if my question is very noob'ish
       
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      We're use to the newby questions. And yes that's all you need to do is put the shackles on and crank the tbar bolts. PB Blaster works very well. I myself live in PA where winter can be harsh to our trucks my rockers are horrible but I did the tt with the truck sitting on the ground it can be done but not exactly recommended because there is a slight chance you could break the adjusting bolt. And for the rear I used my bottle jack between the leaf spring and the frame to create a gap. Just take precaution to doing the mods.
       
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      of course! and thanks for the quick reply. im definately looking to do this!
       
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      No problem, you'll be happy with the end results.
       
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      though i am concerned with the outcome look of my veh since i prob wont upgrade my tires til i actually need to. and ill prob stick with my fac rims unless i find a steal.

      so lift with standard tires vs having to wait a while til i get new tires then slapping the lift on it.
       
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      Ok, trying to track down some info, so I thought I'd add these for reference...

      From center of front CV axle spindle to bottom of fender lip is 19-7/8"
      Does this look TT'd?

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      Does twisting the torsion bolts mess up your 4wd? I did this the other day and love the way it picked the front end up. Please let me know the effects on the 4wd.
       
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      I am planning on doing a TT/Shackles on my 98 X soon,and had a quick question. After doing a TT, is there any way of strengthening the CV axles/joints? Or even swapping for parts that would handle the new angle better??? Not sure if this has been thought of or attempted on a TT'd IFS vehicle, but it could be worth the research... Then again with the time and resources to look into that, someone would prob be better of doing an SAS... Just a thought, and if anybody has heard anything, let me know. Thanks!
       
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      Awesome write up here. Nice to have a standard, basic write up for check up. I have already done this however I was hoping to get some thoughts... im quite certain I tighten both sides 4 times however one side seemes to be fully tightened while the other is more loose and could take another turn it seems... what do you think?

      thanks
       
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      nevermind, I hear this is normal and not something to worry about. still kind of confusing though... something to do with driver in vehicle constantly - weight in front left side of vehicle??

      any thoughts or opinions would be great. thx
       

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