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Torsion twist for dummies! (pics included)

Discussion in 'Shocks, Suspensions, Lift Kits' started by 97GoldXLT, October 10, 2007.

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      I may be wrong, but I'd get the kits that provide the most adjustment. If they are good from -2.25* to +2.25* then seems that all bases are covered. ;)
       
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      Thank you both for the info. Def gonna pick a kit up just to be safe for when I go into my alignment after my shackles and TT.
       
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      Any new pics available for this please?
       
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      Unsure

      Maybe one of you can help. I did the torsion twist on my rig and the CV joint angles seem extreme. The specs seem correct. Factory ~ 4" add 2" of lift and with 5 - 3/4" I'm within the my 6" window. Thoughts?

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      Hi all,

      I went for my test drive after raising the front of my explorer by 2"/5cm and went for my test drive and it lowered down to 3/4"/2cm from before I lifted it.

      Do I just keep on tightening the torsion nuts until I get my 2"/5cm after test drive?

      Thanks heaps,

      Jake
       
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      Do you have air ride suspension? Are you measuring to the top of the fender wells or the lower control arms?

      Bolt heads moving in as you are tightening? Highly unlikely, but are the bolts reverse threaded Down Under? ;)
       
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      No no, ground to fender before tightening was 82cm. I then tightened and got a height of 87cm. I then went for a test drive and measured again and it read 84.5cm. Shall I thigh em again until I get 87cm after a test drive?

      Cheers mate,

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      It's trial and error doing a TT. Measure again, tighten, and jounce the front by driving over speed bumps. Generally,
      the heavier fuel tank/driver side will require more tightening due the so called "Ranger lean". May be too late, but
      probably a good idea to mark the bolts as a reference point. Regardless, alignment should be checked any time the
      bolts are tweaked. Camber kits may also be needed to get alignment within spec.
       
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      The left hand side torsion nut is tight as it will go as well compared to the right one that has about an inch left on it .. That was before I tightened them as well
       
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      The left hand side torsion nut is tight as it will go as well compared to the right one that has about an inch left on it .. That was before I tightened them as well
       
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      Not nuts. You mean bolt head, right? If the driver side is bottomed out, the bolts may have been tightened before.
      This may be a result of weakened torsion bars. If possible, take direct front pics of the lower control arms in relation
      to level ground. Stock ride height would have the lower control arms close to level with the ground.
       
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      Is there anyway I can level it out with the right side?
       
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      You need to specify which side is lower or higher. You can't lift the drivers
      side any more, so all adjustments must be made on the passenger side bolt.
       
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      I just want a 2 inch lift at the front on both driver and passenger though I cannot do it how do I do it ?

      All I need is one more inch!

      Thank you so much for replying as well.

      Cheers

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      Search "longer torsion bolts" (M12x1.75) on top of the page. Very good idea to round the bolt tips
      so they seat in the torsion key dimples correctly. One of MANY threads linked below, see post #56 .

      Bolts For Torsion Bar
      http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153699

      BTW, stock torsion bolts are usually 60-65mm length. (M12x1.75)
       
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      Wouldn't the longer bolt just increase pressure of the bar itself?

      Would a new too soon key help for extra lifting and less pressure of t bar?

      Thanks again for your replies,

      Jake
       
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      Longer bolts achieve the EXACT same thing as lift keys. Only difference is they are clocked differently so the stock bolts aren't tightened as much. Pre load, upper and lower control arm angles, shock travel, and CV half shaft angles are exactly the same with both methods. Lowering keys are different because removing the bolts often does not lower far enough, and many don't want to do the key flip. READ both threads below, they will give you a better understanding regarding lift keys. Again, a lot more info if you search.

      http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388286

      http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209172
       
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      I have an 03 explorer, 2wd, is there an unsafe lowering distance? Like 2-3"?
       
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      Turning the torsion bar will only lift the body
      NOT the suspension
      & You be won't need an alignment unless you have a worn component
      Did mine 6 years ago
      No problems
       
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      Eh? This is not raising the body off the frame. You're adjusting the preload on the torsion springs, raising the suspension.
       
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      +2. Explain how changing control arm angles does NOT affect suspension and alignment.

      Body lifts are done using taller body mounts.
       
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      Do not follow this advice. Until the vehicle is placed on an alignment rack with a competent operator, "no problems" is purely an opinion.



      Torsion twist lift ( adjusting ride hieght via torsion bar tension) will change the camber angle and toe in. In fact it may change the camber to the degree new camber adjusting shims will be required for additional movement.
      It definitely will change the suspension geometry. The lower control arms are pushed downard with more angle which raises the frame, and the body. The ride quality is also compromised in a negative way. It is purely a suspension lift.

      This is why checking and adjusting the ride height is the very first adjustment step during a good alignment, after raising and lowering the front end to settle the springs-

      Put your truck on an alignment rack, and follow the steps to see for yourself.
       
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      Hi there, new here. Reading through all this I already did the torsion twist a few years back, added some longer links to the rear springs and actually replaced the single leaf OEM spring with some new ones that are triple. I can fit 31x10.50R15 currently but would like to get another 1.5 - 2" of travel and go with 32x11.50R15 tires. I've found online there are replacement Torsion bar Keys and possibly longer rear links with additional holes to raise the rear. Currently I have Procomp shock absorbers installed and would I need to get longer ones or can I still go with the ones installed currently? What TT keys and rear links does everyone suggest for a '99 Explorer Sport V6 OHV 4x4? Thanks!

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