Transfer case interchangability question

[electronicsguy]

I have a 95 explorer XLT 4.0 electronic 4wd and my transfer case is doing that thing to where it makes a horrible spinning sound when i let off the gas at over 30mph and sometimes i have to put it in 4 low to get reverse to engage without making that noise. A friend offered to sell me a low mileage known good transfer case for $50, he has 2 to choose from, one is a 4405-12 and the other is a 4405-09. Mine is a 4405-07. One of his is out of a 97 and the other is out of a 2000, is there anyone that knows if these will interchange? He has matching driveshafts, wiring etc. for his in case I would need some of that stuff to make it work.
Thanks,
Mike

 

[drdoom]

Is your '95 a Control Trac? Also, check the output flanges, to see if they match. I have a 4405-9 and it has the six-bolt cup flange on the front, and speedometer gear at the rear output. I think that is the only stuff you have to match.

 

[electronicsguy]

i think its a control trac, it has the automatic 4wd. i havent had my tcase out yet cause my explorer is all i have to drive so im tryin to find out before i get the other tcase cause i have to drive 2 hrs to pick it up
thx
mike

 

[ziggyofthenorth]

If the 4.0 is like the 5.0, the 2000 will not work. 95 thru 97 the speedo hooked up to the t-case. 99 up to 2001 the t-case has no place to attach the speedo cable. 98 I'm not sure about, but it is easy to see if the case is machined to accept a speedo cable. I have been told the newer ones sense the speed off of the ABS system, but mine is a 96 so I never looked into it past what fits mine.

 

[IZwack]

So are you 100% certain that the problem is indeed the transfer case?

 

[electronicsguy]

My mechanic seems sure, it did it right after i took it out of 4 low and forgot to put it in neutral first. I tried like hell to properly disengage 4wd after that in case it was partially stuck with no luck. I had only had the explorer 2 days when this happened. He said the tcase had been leaking fluid from the front and was low on fluid, hard telling for how long. I had read somewhere that some of the 95 explorers had a different front connection, some were cv and others were something different that I cant remember, I can get the front driveshaft to go along with whichever tcase I get from my friend if that will make it work, but I dont know. I hate to pull the tcase out and get someone to take me 2 hours away to see if it will work then put the bad one back on if it wont so i have something to drive til i get one. I tried finding a way to access the hollander interchange guide online but it said I have to subscribe to it

 

[drdoom]

You could just get the 4405-09 and use the output shaft out of your 4405-07 (if it is good). It would be a good opportunity to inspect & overhaul the transfer case, you know a seal kit and a shift fork upgrade. You would probably want to check the speedo gear as well, in case the 4405-09 build uses a different color gear. Heck, for $50.00 you could just use those cases for parts, and fix the one you have.

 

[gmanpaint]

You can use a 4405 t-case from 95-96-97. But that's it.

95-96 uses a 4405-CA, 97 uses a 4405-GA. The only difference between these are the front output for the drive shaft. If you use a 4405-GA, you must use the front shaft that came with it. These cases have the VSS in them, 98+ do not, and those years use the ABS sensor in the rear diff case for the speedometer.

The other option you have is to use a manual 1354 TC (with a VSS) for a direct bolt in, and is actually a strong upgrade as it is a gear driven case, not a clutch driven, like the 4405 is.

 

[electronicsguy]

awesome! thx so much for the help, ill buy the one from the 97 and get the front driveshaft with it

 

[Steeda04SVT]

To piggy back off of this, my tcase is making noises and will a tcase from a fellow 97 5.0 work? Wasn't sure if the tcase was the same between the 4.0 and 5.0? Thanks for any input.

 

[IZwack]

The transmissions behind the 4.0L and 5.0L engines are different (different tailshaft housing patterns) so that a transfer case from a 4.0L will not bolt up to the 5.0L, and visa versa.

 

[Steeda04SVT]

The transmissions behind the 4.0L and 5.0L engines are different (different tailshaft housing patterns) so that a transfer case from a 4.0L will not bolt up to the 5.0L, and visa versa.

But it's the same for the 4.0 SOHC and 4.0 OHV?

 

[IZwack]

But it's the same for the 4.0 SOHC and 4.0 OHV?

Yes - however there are differences between generations (91-94 vs 95-01) and also a few differences within the 2nd gen models. GIJOECAM explains the differences in this thread: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203441

 

[Steeda04SVT]

Sweet, thanks for the link.