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Treadwear Issue with Ventus S1 Noble 2 Hankooks

Discussion in 'Stock 2011 - 2019 Ford Explorer Discussion' started by ZRacer83, January 18, 2017.

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      I've always gone by the door jam so it's not something I looked at much anymore, but it sure seemed like when I was first learning to drive (nearly 30 years ago) that they had both recommended and 'maximum' tire pressure on the tires. Just asked Mrs. Squirrel about it, though, and she said they just put the maximum pressure on them because different vehicles could need different tire pressures, which obviously makes sense. So I suppose this is a case of my memory failing me over the years. I stand corrected.
       
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    3. peterk9

      peterk9 Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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      Only 3 reports and they are all about "blow outs".
      What I found interesting is that on the Hankook website, the Ventus S1 Noble 2 is shown as a passenger car tire. The SUV tire is shown as the Ventus S1 evo 2.
      I can't check to see which came on my '17 Platinum since I had the Winter wheels installed when the vehicle arrived at the dealer and the OEM tires are stored there.

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      Just checked my '17 Platinum it came with the Hankook Ventus S1 Noble 2 tires.
       
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      Just checked my '16 Platinum, and it also came with Hankook Ventus S1 Noble 2 tires.
       
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      That is what my ExPlat came with too, I really don't like the cold start (flat spot) vibration these have, takes about 5 miles before they warm up enough to smooth out.
      • Hankook advertises them as 'The Ventus S1 noble2 (H452) is Hankook's Ultra High Performance All-Season tire developed for the drivers of sports cars, sporty coupes and performance sedans looking to combine on-road performance with all-season traction in dry wet and wintry conditions". So why are they on a 5,000 lb SUV?
      • Consumer Reports reviews contain several negative comments about 'treadwear life'.
      http://www.consumerreports.org/prod...re/hankook-ventus-s1-noble-2-222992/overview/

      • More mixed reviews that mention treadwear, maybe vehicle weight is a factor:
      http://www.1010tires.com/Tires/Reviews/Hankook/Ventus+S1+noble2
       
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    7. peterk9

      peterk9 Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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      You'll find that Hankook also shows the previous Optimo H426 as a passenger car tire.

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      Yes, but I would think that a SUV that comes with a trailer hitch and a 5,000 lb tow rating would be equipped with 'XL' load rated tires, these Hankooks are 'standard load' tires. It may simply be that Ford wanted a softer ride than a 20" XL tire could provide and since many people do not tow with these vehicles it is a trade-off.
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      I think when I next look for tires it will be for an XL type, simply because of the increase in load carrying at higher tire pressures. The tire load sticker on my car is for a 105H tire, like the my Hankook's, that have a max load rating of 925kg GAWR.
      The same size Hankook Dynapro HP2 tire with a 'XL' rating has a 1030kg rating. You can use 35psi for drive comfort, then increase psi for load carrying, passengers or towing.
       
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      Sorry, meant 35 psi. Other car is 32.
       
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      Thanks for asking but I work in the automotive industry and am pretty well versed in measuring tire tread depth. The dealer also confirmed my finding.
       
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      Must have overlooked that part. Under the Hankook section, they state they will replace them if there is a defect within the first 25% of treadlife. After that they just prorate.
       
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      hmmm, well that rules that out and alignment. Could be a secret lead foot driver? :D, but yea wear that early is usually common on very high performance tires, which these are not, curious to see what the tire manufacturer or dealer says.


       
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      Thanks! I skipped to the Hankook section of the warranty guide and completely overlooked that. Time to go back to the dealer. They originally said they wouldn't do anything and that it was up to the tire manufacturer.
       
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      The one thing I am sure of is that my wife does not drive aggressively. She doesn't drive aggressive enough. Lol! The older Hankooks seem to be lasting a lot longer than this model.
       
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      The one thing I am sure of is that my wife does not drive aggressively. She doesn't drive aggressive enough. Lol! The older Hankooks seem to be lasting a lot longer than this model.
      The ratings on Tire Rack are fine except for the reviews by Explorer owners. There were several that seem to be having the same problem.
       
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      Hahaha. I am the secret lead foot driver, but I only drive it occasionally on the weekends.
       
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      Thanks for the information!!! I appreciate you checking with the wife! I think you are right. I think there was a bad batch out there. It seems as though many people are having no problems, but I have also seen several reviews of people having the same problem with their EX...all are on 2016's.
       
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      Just replaced mine on a 16 Limited. All 4 tires worn evenly but not much tread left at 28k.
       
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      Tengo 3000 millas en mi Explorer Limited 2016, me di cuenta de que están recogiendo trozos de goma de la banda de rodadura de los neumáticos delanteros, conducción no agresiva o fuera del camino caminos, alguien con ese problema, algunas recomendaciones, gracias
       
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      Translated: I have 3000 miles in my Explorer Limited 2016, I noticed that they are picking up pieces of rubber from the tread on the front tires, driving non-aggressively or off the road roads, someone with that problem, some recommendations, thanks
       
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      Sounds like it could be an alignment issue.

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      Parece que podría ser un problema de alineación.

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      I just had my first rotation at 10,000 miles on these Hankooks. 8/32" on the rears, 6/32" on the fronts giving them a "yellow" and prompting the Ford service advisor that I'll be ready for new tires soon. I'd also add they are less than acceptable performance in the snow (for being all season tires) and the flat spots for the first mile each morning is irritating. Not happy at all!!! :mad2: I'd be interested to hear if anyone was successful with warranty claims on these "bad batch" of tires.
       
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      Although they are called All Season tires most tire people agree they are really a 3 Season tire. They don't have a proper tread or the right flexible rubber compound to perform well in cold weather. Also, as mentioned before, they are a passenger car tire, not an SUV tire. I'm not aware of anyone here who had one replaced due to tire wear.

      Here is some interesting info. I searched the Hankook Ventus S1 noble2 tire on the 1010tires.com site and the following message came up;
      Sorry, this tire is not guaranteed to fit your 2017 Ford Explorer 4 Dr Sport Utility Platinum in OEM size: 255/50R20 (104T), but we have other tires that do fit,

      Hankook shows the Hankook Ventus AS RH07 their All Season light truck and SUV tire.

      Peter
       
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      I bought my '16 Sport used last August with 20k. Once the snow flew here in New England, I was dead in the water - the Hankooks were useless in the snow. Went to my mechanic and the tires were between 4/32" and 5/32. After another snow storm, I gave up and put four Michelin Defender LTX M&S on my Explorer. MUCH better in the snow and handles better overall.
       
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      Welcome to the Forum.:wave:
      While the Defenders may be better, you can't beat dedicated Winter tires. They are built to handle snow and more importantly cold bare roads as they remain flexible whereas so called all seasons stiffen up as the temp falls below 44 F.

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