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Upgrading from MFT/Sync 2 to Sync 3

Discussion in '2011-2016 My Ford Touch / In Vehicle Technology' started by blwnsmoke, December 9, 2015.

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    1. Tavin

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      Regards, I am very interested in switching to Sync 3, I will buy the OEM AUTOPARTSCO, it is expensive but I guarantee it works and is plug and play.
      Sync 2 is the only disappointment of my Limited 2016, I think the change is worth it
       
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      How can you guarantee it works if you have not purchased it yet? Would it void my warranty?
       
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      Most likely, it will void your warranty, but it definitely is going to work as people in Russia already doing that, though it requires vehicle configuration after swap.
      According to reports there are no side effects, after configuration everything is working just as it should.
       
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      Your 2016 came with SYNC2 MFT, if you installed SYNC3 then your on the hook to support it and how it integrates with the vehicle. So say your HVAC controls in your 2016 are not working properly through SYNC3, the dealer could say they will not cover the problem under factory warranty because the controls you have now with SYNC3 were not sold with the vehicle. They normally have to prove your modification is the cause of the issue.

      You would need support from the seller of the SYNC3 system to fix any related issues.

      The issue is that these new vehicles are so reliant on so many vehicle modules and systems that by changing one you could affect all of them.

      I say this because when working with the Police Program engineers we would ask about making certain changes to things like DRL's or SYNC in order to integrate Police equipment. They would come back to us and say yes or no based on the effects it had on various other vehicle systems.

      For example: using OEM rear back up sensors as part of an officer safety system called "Surveillance Mode". the vehicle will activate the rear back up camera and sensors so during a traffic stop if anyone tries to approach the officer from behind the sensors would activate and alert the officer.
       
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      It most definitely will affect your warranty depending on what it is that goes wrong. It will not however, void your factory warranty just the warranty on the affected items.
      It is all mentioned in the Warranty Guide.

      Peter
       
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      Oh my goodness this sucks. lol. Thanks for the replies everyone. THIS is the only thing I would change about my Explorer. I did purchase the extended warranty for 6 years of coverage. If I don't go to the new Ex in 2020, I will more than likely go this route.

      @RedDen - I am now eagerly waiting your review of the new module.
       
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      Thanks for the information, everything in life is risk, they ask for the VIN with the aim of adapting the new equipment to the options that the factory vehicle brings, however if you do not do all the work properly I can return the equipment and receive from Return my money, as long as I do it before 30 days, nothing is lost with try, greetings
       
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      I am not likely to do the swap as I'm ok with SYNC 2 so far, but I was recently offered SYNC 3 for ~$300 w/o navi and ~$400 with Navi, shipment would add another ~$50
       
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      Wow! That's different from the $2K price tag they had on that before.
       
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      Care to share from where you received this offer? Is this open to everyone or just a one-off deal?
       
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      Not sure about everyone, deal is from Russia. The other thing is that this SYNC 3 is Europe's one and from my experience with SYNC 2 they used to be different for Europe and America, not sure about SYNC 3 (might be the same)
       
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      I have a new Sync 3 APIM w/Nav on the way and will document on the install process on my 2016 Platinum when it arrives
       
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      I would love to have sync 3 but 2k without labor seems a bit crazy. There is also a substantial risk involved with no Ford support. I have a magnetic phone Holder on my vent if I want to use android auto via bluetooth. Maybe it's a bit more responsive but I am not surfing the Web with it. I am a new Ford owner and I was expecting MFT to be way worse than it is. I think it's pretty decent once you learn how to use it. Interested to see how the upgrades go though!
       
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      The upgrade actually works very well. infotainment and 4dtech both sell complete sets but it is MUCH cheaper to organize your own. (ie: I paid well under 1K doing my own...)

      You will need Forscan to do the apim programming but it is pretty much plug and play. I paid a member of the fusion forums to do my programming configuration, then i just needed to load it with an obd2 dongle that supports MS-CAN
      Downside: I bought the wrong screen when I did it, turns out Ford uses two different types of mounts: One for recessed and one for flat.
      The recessed is for Edge/MKX/Explorer/F150/F250/F350, the standard is for Fusion/Focus/etc

      You will also need the newer usb ports from the latest explorer if you want CarPlay, but most likely won't need it for Android Auto.
       
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      Welcome to the Forum.:wave:
      I used to watch Paladin in Have Gun Will Travel. A great show. Ran from 1957 - '63. ;)

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      MY 2016 explorer only has USB ports. No A/V inputs. I wonder if I would need to swap them out. An upgrade would be a nice option to have. Especially if Ford stops offering updates and newer phones start having pairing issues.That is my biggest fear with MFT. No rush to jump into anything yet.
       
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      SYNC3 ain't $2k or even $1k better than MFT. once you know what to expect from it and how to use it.
       
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      if you only have the usb you wont have to swap them for android auto. They will need to be swapped for carplay.
       
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      Yeah, MFT touch is fine. I have had no issues with it . Android Auto actually has an app for your phone which is enough for me. Not sure why apple does not come out with one for CarPlay on the iphone. I use it in my 2008 honda also with a bluetooth converter in the aux jack. I can use voice commands for texts phone calls ect... Works great.
       
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      Good afternoon guys, today I installed the Sync 3, in less than an hour, plug and play, I have in my limited package 301 A, I send them my VIN and they sent me the correct APIM, everything works, air conditioners Dual, , Parking assistance, ambient light and the Android car, it was worth the wait, I am very happy, instead of changing a vehicle, change a radio and I am in 2017, I recommend, ah and low price, in the 2016 is Change the hub usb, also plug and play, the change is from day to night, greetings
       
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      Thanks for your experience. A parts list and any instructions might be useful should any of us try it also.
       
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      If it is 2016 no parts, the order brings the screen and Apim, USB converters to use the Android Car, a GPS antenna and a connector to change USB converter that is not used in 2016, all plug and play, comes With the last update of the system Sync 3, for the 2016 all in less than an hour, greetings
       
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      Are you able to get future updates?
       

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