Discussion in 'Shocks, Suspensions, Lift Kits' started by Four0Sport, April 7, 2008.
just do shackles and AAL its not that much more of a rough ride
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So any ideas on the specs on the shackles it looks stupid with just the front lifted lol
do the wheels need to come off before this? or can they be kept on? taking them off wont be such a pain considering most people do the TT with the shackle placement so they need an alignment anyway. just a quick question
2 bars of 3/8" x 10.25" L x 2" W
1/2" bolt holes are 9.5" apart from center to center.
Middle support bar is 1/4" thick sq tube x 3"L x 2" x 1.5" welded between the bars. The center tube is not centered in the middle of the brackets. It is 1" closer to one end then the other for the offset.
Leave the wheels on for install.
Gman, is this what you're talking about?
Sheesh! Sure would have been nice to just posted that instead of me half assing a measuring tape...lol
So I can delete my post now right? :
LOL, I've posted this picture a couple times in different threads. I figured this would help out in this one too.
no kidding.. must be nice.... ; my 97 limited has been used continually to towing and backing down into water at boat launch ramps... This wasn't the first time Ive done something like this (did add a leaf 2 months ago) and this took me around 4 -5 hours a side with all the essentials. .. my shackles are destroyed and flattened ... will post some pics.. had to cutt one bolt cuz was seized just too much. .. crazy but so glad its done.. oh man
great post. nice to have your pics and write up... used it tons when installing on mine.. although took 4 plus hours a shackles to simple get off.. cheers
No way! Too stiff! I got a 94 that I'm gonna use my coil spacers and shackles on, wish me luck on getting those old bolts off lol.
i have coil spacers shackles and an AAL its not that bad. you get used to it pretty quick
Now for the big question, shocks. What length are the stock ones and how am I going to find out what size I need for the rear since I will be raising the truck 2"? I'm not familiar with shocks at all, and so have no idea what I'm looking for.
i just relocated mine to the sway bar mount on the rear axle.
I kept mine at the stock location and haven't had any issues in over 4 years. You don't really need to relocate the shocks to the swaybar bracket unless you do a SOA (Spring Over Axle) conversion. JMO.
only reason i did is because i flex mine out a lot
So going offroad is not going to hurt the stock shocks? I'm not yet a hardcore offroader, but do go onto dirt roads at times where its really bumpy.
Your fine with stock shocks and the shackles. If you go any higher than the lift given by shackles, then you would want longer shocks. This is so they don't go beyond the max extension and eventually break.
It wouldn't hurt to go a couple inches longer, as long as you keep your collapsed rate around the same. Going longer will give your axle more flex and less chance of using them to stop your axle from flexing. Without limit straps, your shocks and your leaf springs are the only thing that stop your droop from one side to the next. I have much longer shocks than stock, and I still flex them to their max extension. It all depends on what your going to use it for, when deciding on shocks.
Keep the stockers on for now in the stock mounting locations, until you think you want to get more flex out of it. For now, your safe to use the stock shocks.
Yep, stock shocks work. I swapped to a 4 door leaf pack, added a leaf, and put on lift shackles gaining me 3 inches over start (2 inches over what would have been level). Took it out in the woods today and it flexed just fine. Have a new set of ranchos(stock sized) ready to put on.
Ok great! I just think i should get new shocks now that ill b messing with the suspension might as well replace the shocks.
WELL, I got my shackles today, pretty lol.
Now I just have to wait for my wrenches to come in, and I can start doing the lift.
What is the power tool called that can use sockets with power to get nuts off that are stubborn? is that an impact wrench? If so, does anyone know if HF carries them? Sears wants waayyyy too much. I attempted to get the left shackle off last night, and boy those nuts are not budging with my current regular socket set. Would a breaker bar help? I'm just tossing out ideas....not really sure what to do now. Should I spray the crap outta them for weeks with PB Blaster or what?
Spray with PB blaster and let soak for a day. My impact wrench was too weak to bust them off. I used a breaker bar(18 to 20 inches long if I had to guess) on my 3/8 socket wrench and they came right off no problem.
Yeah a breaker bar after there soaked down real good helps. Impact are great for removing them after the nuts are off. Spin em and tap the ends of the bolts. Thread the nut back on about half way and tap the nut so you don't thrash the threads on the bolts.
I use a pin bar to remove them the rest of the way as I operate the floor jack. You can get the jack just right to relieve the pressure off the bolts as you tap them out.
Just remember not to tighten them to much when you install the new shackles. They will bend inward if you go gonzo on the wrench.
Agreed. I had the torque specs somewhere, ill see if I can find them...
edit: "Tighten the rear spring shackle lower bolt and nut to 83-112 Lb/Ft"
-this is what i followed for the upper and lower shackle bolts..pulled from a "how to" on a leaf pack swap.
I soaked the nuts for 24 hours, and still the right side will not budge. I got a 17" breaker bar 3/8" drive and was able to loosen the entire left side, but the right side is going nowhere. Guess I'm gonna have to have the husband break them loose for me.
BTW, what's a pin bar? I was able to get the top bolt of the left shackle, but the bottom one isn't budging.
OOPS my fault, it was a 17" breaker bar, NOT a 7".